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Imagine stepping into a sanctuary where you can tune out the distractions and negativity of the world and tap into your own potential. Welcome to a space that promises transformation through personal growth. In this episode David & Carol Bayer explore their personal journeys of creating a business centered around personal development, reminding you of the certainty of a promising future.
This episode takes an inspiring turn as they share the compelling hero's journey of Carol Bayer. She takes us through her transition from Colombia to the United States, her start as a cashier at 7-Eleven while learning English, and the emotional roller-coaster that accompanied her journey. Carol's story is one of perseverance, resilience, and self-discovery, a testament to the power of never giving up. Through her own battles, Carol has developed a personality of self-protection and excellence that we can all learn from.
As we journey through this episode, David & Carol touch on the pivotal moments that changed their lives, one of those being the Tony Robbins event. They discuss the profound effects it had on their understanding of themselves, their challenges, and ultimately, their life's work. They also delve into the less glamorous but important aspects of running a business - the challenge of letting go, the struggles of control, and the effort it takes to pivot strategies amidst challenges. Finally, they explore the power of creating space for something new, the importance of having a daily practice, and how it can drastically improve your life experience. This episode is a melting pot of personal growth, transformation, and the power of resilience.
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Hey, it's David. Welcome back to A Changed Mind, a place where we will remind you of a certain future, a sanctuary for your human spirit. Uh, man, this is going to have got special guests, prized guests for you, really the first ever for our show. And if you end up loving this show, do leave us a rating or a view on whatever the way we work out into the world. And if you happen to be joining us, make sure to subscribe. We are joined here today by none other than Carol Tierras-Bear, my wife, friend, president, an extraordinary human being. And I must've done something right past live track, Carol, and still of all the things that we've been able to explain that still how, uh, how Carol's being here, excited to, uh, we're officially in episode four. And so it's been a really beautiful episode and you've been instrumental in guiding process of you. Uh, and you suggested that we do so stories came from, and that just makes sense, we're, we're on the journey, got to learn myself, we're all done our best. How we end up wrong. They care where we are. We're there. Uh, yeah, maybe not. Maybe we're a step behind a lot of people. And a lot of different areas of our lives, but we've certainly felt we've forged that. We were guided to create a business really about to live. I had on make sure. And, um, I think it would be great if you want to start. No, we won't show it, but if you want to start with story and gather purpose, sharing this is really to show the hero. Just can't hear it. All the character movie, what he discovered, struck, uh, how we're, uh, design of show, identify, suit, aid, uh, of our life, goods and purse, be that other. And so, um, so I'd love to hear your story because I think, um, that while all of our stories print, people are going to find elves in your story and my story. And depending on where you are right now is list. You're going to be in some chap of your own hero's journey. And my guest hope, as you see that we've come through to the other side of challenge bar. Do you want to, I don't know, just start from the beginning. Oh, Carol was still, uh, still am. So, uh, yeah, so I'm, uh, uh, yeah. And then, so we came to, but I, and when I got here, it was role work and the higher selling while I, um, that was very hard. I was working and I was, um, probably like two, two, like, uh, never before you go on, like what? I can't even imagine going to another being top of my universe, studying home and then work cash to have a grab. Um, what was there doubt that occurred for you? Like, what am I doing? What, what, like, what is that emotional experience like? Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was sad. Well, I went back, um, I was hard. So every chain and the one, uh, element there, and because of that thought that I was stupid, right? But it was that I so eat racist, right? So, um, at one point I will, uh, say, you know, what I'm, what I, um, that. So, um, it was, it was really was, um, but I come from where, right. And whatever I flesh, I will get. That was sad. So I was obsessed with learning fast. Okay. Ray crack around, right? With, um, so that's, that's, that's how, why are you, why are you? Well, um, I was out, um, and so grandmother and mom, so she had her woman household provide my mom married. So I grew up working at a red bull race. And then on top of that, um, I either, and that point I decided that was joy and here I am. And, um, uh, then man, you know, so I did it way. So, um, uh, always class race or like that was tough. And so, so it was super helpful. Cause, um, I was knowledge when I was young, uh, and I was full of energy, that was world. Um, but that's, that's how I, whatever. So what happened? 7-Eleven and I started to speak English a little more. Um, I stopped work and I remember going to that view. The two eyed person was at home. I'm getting, um, I do remember, and when I worked, that was, I write. That's the only, I don't know what whole like that. I was like, I got the, and man, that was the challenge. Cause so now the whole part, right. And so I'm trying to, to, um, last, um, and although very old, so I trade. I spent, I was very honored. Um, so that was my, and, uh, um, and that's so got it. I scored and I wrote together. May I would get a link deck, like, um, they all, and I was having men left. Uh, I learned and I realized that when I, um, late, I realized how to, um, also, uh, it worked very, and then I started asking, I said, I love, um, it was, it was, it was not like a lot more that I'm not so fortunate, uh, so president. Never thought of. Um, so I said, yeah, of course. So I, um, signed, right. He was old. I was a very, um, kind has worked here with roughed up and, um, home carol up and do it, and he was right here. Why? So, um, that happened while, um, there I was, I am like brought back left or, um, I, but I'm so like, I, I was selling small product. I was, I was pretty much. And then one day, well, okay. Um, I didn't do they tell her spend it again, going ideally. So I run that about work, right? I was making it to Columbia. We have travel around whole project. Yeah. It's interesting when we're talking where I had been pre my own baby trust. Yeah. Um, cause while you were coming to States way up through seven, 11 through the insurance world, D I was, I had business, I had built and, uh, going through aroom and I realized that it wears right long and it was a it was a sort of used cuz I thought go out bar you see it just seemed like that normal behaved till it and one night her brother's already a comfort there and I started seeing the therapist 12-step and for those of you who listen up wired hauler be able to rewind pulse out rate pools and I started my journey of cover and as I started getting Friday teen I was so forced there so curious day I asked counter hey is there a seer self oh yeah that's appropriately make section and I went up to second floor of a barn noble and a walk help and not there's there on war book it uphill which I didn't time his really is business so I got a growth started ballot about that you and the I had torn shoulder suck and I was driving back soda and I was seeing trick cuz I didn't search older birthday that up dinner at rest have friend 12 with standing rest bar buddy says you know I'm so iron why and well women a single and approach them afraid to and that was exactly how I women I use it it seemed to be like oh come on you know kind of like one up right and it's not that big a deal and I had noticed you outside of rest sort of Friday fest and there you were with friends rest bar so cell friend and now this is where the story is really if you do this podcast because your your claim was that I thought my recollection my recollection is you invited paid it to the girlfriend but we started started dating and you were a trend that it's amazing to see how down me to begin because I was feeling quite I remember you rolled up we're all I think I grabbed closet at that time and threw it on mad at Tampa and and I was so intimidated I was very said I mean really I had all the even many years dating finally got and you were super self-esteemed out really confident and and gather and you told the story when I was still running told yeah dinner yeah so yes invited first and all that you matter but I and well has whole big on their legs our but a lot with the word but I was hello like now but didn't maybe can't did close it who laid that you what a girl didn't know that work and I remember telling and with it I'm why I'm telling me to this guy I never told any other mom several years and then he died well yeah and you said and we're helping and I know and it was it was it was completely irrelevant dinner and I remember you tell me that story like yeah I'm staged out front of us we're helping live daughter and son and think so I really helped us hope this woman finds finds that guy he sounds like he's pretty amazing and and I remember at the end of that date car hey you really should read this book a life and you know it was at a time where you really were not wrote started dating going 12-step friend of sort of guardian personal development party Paul Lewis said hey so I'm for a program those landmark trans program that was the first time I did and then he Paul invited me to go to Tony Robb power within I ended out of but there was a lot of there was this idea that hey like just get through it was kind of like everything just get through it and get done you're done why get it off so I trust always right and and if I grew up I would feel it like a belief in God yeah I believe I make him old so I was not long all who are here so the idea that I'm in and why that I didn't even in aren't you ready right right but that's not really true that you feel alone there were yeah yeah I mean that's like finally but I owe else you had strong you'd very strong right you had you didn't have a lot of doubt you didn't have doubt of you didn't you didn't feel it and a lot of doof and again that's where I write consist and like sure and they go over it right and food and came you get here then you real and sure yeah I I had a lot of fear may I grew up at all and that was really hide well I said so we had you and we got place where I am and I think that time to yeah you because you didn't I didn't know you're gonna get these these old emotion or nerve you're gonna can you you situate feel safe or life buyer right bond and I think something about going to Tony Robbins changing it what what was so we're so afraid yeah cuz if the last minute Paul couldn't go and he's like hey why don't you take Carol and we had just had to say no more don't spend more money don't spend more money more time and I'm like hey babe well no one's really a lot of music kind of like okay it's a Tony Rob and shock said I knew yeah I knew of him too in fact Paul and me I didn't know a lot about Rob even up till 2015 and when does he I'd never really stuff I'd Paul said list shared with a pop it out so you you went with something happened there yeah so I remember about a fight event I remember a day and I got so do I embrace maybe we are all out higher and trying to I that won't like them out they have courage go no no that was why again and I remember now no one higher now all not after I have a laptop and I cry and book and then we went wrong and I remember first thing that happened was hunted a process of killing and obviously my high forward my Carol way of a door top of it and don't get it work then very where they were very hard and I'm like oh my god oh not that you were gonna marry no I remember so and I hold and I was anti personal develop tool that you then say then they off that like my hair is Paul they will be with you here travel together and I'm like oh I like so it's brought back let me friend and to my and I didn't tell you what I'm hell yeah that that that helped right was really this cloud for we we committed site you know one of the we've covered over time that for compassion if passionate do that while you're in startup stage be that and unconsciously that's that's happened I was I was so past started to go to trip India week-to-week covering getting crack breath work I a cold cold therapy it was really the whole throat how cool I was well you weren't cold doing everything out and but we still didn't really know how and I remember we did it one day a few weeks for that postcard like the yoke studio one shot friend they brought we ended up where we delivered the first version half not today it wasn't in a convention center it was just 20 20 people and shared everything new and finished okay we're done if you remember like everyone lined up 20 people front say hey you're in and there was no offer probe not but we were being right transfer others there was that time that I you were downstairs Dexter our Huawei walk though he got out of the car he hugged me and cried because we started having a conversation where he like all of us he was getting it back thought he had to all the present kid rather present kid and and so you you and I really got admitted and we started studying how do we get our job and this was around thousand teen started shard his probe to speak training surely John Kern right we $1,000 two days current you actually went certified fusion soft software so you could start building these emails I learned how to run Facebook ad we were like okay we got it for it's a creative program run face guys you're gonna be a couple and also generating mink because we didn't have a ton of ink we were investingThat's a lot of it. And yeah, you went back into insurance. And when I decided to quit, Yeah, I think Tony Robbins, go to a Tony Robbins event. You just quit your job without really having a plan as to what happens next. But yeah, you were making, you had a job, which was really generating for us. And you're like, hey, I quit. And I said, maybe we'll say, no, I'm all in. We're gonna do this. And we launched our first digital program. I remember Bob, we launched, then we created a second. First digital program was, I was wanting to help people, so that they could breathe and move towards any effect. When you're sober, a lot of around, careful, go out and try to live your life because trigger your addiction. At least that was my case. And I was like, no, actually the reason why there's such high relapse because you have to move forward in health way. That's beer to do. Spanach, not in the Spanish. You experience more, more anger, more misery, suffering, of course, right there, addict, whatever thing, right? For, for, for, for non quote unquote. No, I, we all have poor behavior, especially around think, right? Never over assuming news. You're expressing it through anger, social media. Yeah. And so, and so we, we launched that first probe, people recovery. And we got a lot of emails. I'm like, man, your video series is so good. Why would I force? When I can go to a meeting $2. Yeah. And so then, then we pivoted, created a whole new digital, whole new face, whole new, all the, I mean, man, tried to form, to launch Manifest, which was explaining to all the people who are excited about Law of Attraction, how it actually works, so that they apply it and integrate it. And then I think what we realized is all the really diehard track, really did, they, they really, really needed to manifest. And then so finally we settled on Nours. They wanted to manifest. Yeah. And then we settled on Nours and that, that mind hack program, you know, that was actually part of, we hired a consult team, said, Hey, in 27 consults said, well, you need to create self-date, So we created the mind hack program needed and it ended up being the whole formative, super sad program. It was, I call it, we're brought from up here. Just. Oh, you mean like we were receiving? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because, so here, I remember as growing graph and just how, how our, how tool work, how, and then we were so, there was beauty program still available, still have a lot of buy it, they tried many times. Yeah. And that's what happens when you're in those neck beer, then all the pieces start to play, really space out, which we're going to talk about here in a second. And, but so we created the mind hack program, we went out, both felt reminds me of old Wayne Dyer stories, like story wrote a book, true. And you can't hand a probe card, but that's how, right? We were going anywhere that, where people would hear our message and allow speak, say, Hey, you know, if you really want to God came with powerful living. So in January of 17, we had powerful living experience. We had, and it was an amazing event. And then we did it again in 2018 and had 500. And then we did it again in 2019. We had a little rate. And then we were, we were, we were rolling in 2020, right? And we had 12 people read a living pandemic hit. It was actually weekend of the pandemic, but we still held the 500 showed effect called because rest lot. And it was the most amazing group of people because they were more afraid of yeah, killer virus. And, and that event was unbelievable. And over the course of those four years, we, we built a math coach. We built the business dollars a year. We did $5 over those four or five years. We were number one 71 on 500 fastest growing, single fastest growing coach in America. We were doing retreat, our dairy coach clients, these amazing Haitian Guatemala code, Tahoe veil, and really going deep business, personal growth, wealth, and leadership. And I think from the outside in everything like was perfect. And a lot of it was a lot of it was perfect. Like, yeah, but I think, I think we noticed even before 20, cause that changed every years and we were business virtual. Then when one West update, we're all face target baptized, dried up. We had built up this momentum of an organization. I were a real gut 20 to 30 employees, cashflow. But even before that happened, I feel like we could have sent that there was a, it was almost like the business started having a momentum or direct zone. And it was moving in a direction. And it really wasn't in alignment with where we go next, but I don't know how aware of it. We were like, we were aware of the tension. We kept doing the same thing. Yeah. So you share that first, right? Then we all that. And we'll, we knew, and we, we know, we now where, how alive that Mindy, whoever he tried, we were all, all good. He's that created program. We were all very ready. And we were showing, we built a great business. We, we haven't, and still do have, actually create for our, and I do. Cause somehow they would, but that the issue, not lying. But I've done all, what we do is, boy, I was working in Google sales. So we can't push, that we had. Yeah. It is, you know, our vision has always bring, but off. Well, yeah, I'll do that. One, one, once I get business pro selling, once get up five, higher resources, then I'll, I'll, I'll spend more time to get these other pieces, roll back, go and follow Merak, organize. And we in, in 2021, when our Facebook ad stopped, it was November 21. And said to you, I know this, right? We've talked about it, so that you don't have to be whatever, be a business owner, be a professional work, where you stay up, be a college dude, says, he'd have to do that. And you agreed with, but I, yeah. So yeah, I knew too. So look at it, what other way, what even work? Cause mine, I'm, I'm rolling white. It didn't last, it's passed out. So we, we knew when you push harder, like, vent ourselves. Well, especially now with, yeah, but I was with, what has got to, where I go harder. So remember that, we, he'll go work. That was my work. So we spent a lot of time, trying to get our, free face strategy, right there. And there were a lot of signs that, it wasn't the direct moving. We were hiring, firing salespeople, and point setter, director of sale. Then we, then we found another agency, later in the year, said, oh no, you can go back forward, previous age, implemented right way. And all of a sudden, we were April of 23, and we were headed to India. And, and back in November, back in that November of 2021, I remember you said, no, we, we have to figure out how to get our, business coach pro selling, and otherwise around you, we're not going to be able to, and so here we were, a year and a half later, and we were going to India, with Fifth Marlet, and something, sparks, hey, you realize, we never got it here. And, and we needed 2022, to have, and this is where it's really in, because I don't think, could have, Lee, I suppose about are important. Hey, start to become aware of feeling, and create, got it. Hey, there's going to be a time, live growth, working, is this level, and go, go to men, because 2022 was pivotal. You, you were pregnant with Gabe, and I think it was around, it was around March, 2022. I was having health, some health challenge, serious, really bug, you were very, because, and, and we were living in a temporary, because we were, home break, and I, home walk, and I've shared this, in another episode, but I basically, break, shower, yelling, we had done a moat, I needed to, move tendrew, body, and Zolt, break down, I told, and I would work 12 step, not around, pornography, and started to see things, that credible, and that pays a little more, love, our ability to body, and action, own work, and what I realized, was that, this was, process, of traction, right, that was preceding, the next band, and came through, the upside of the very, onto, that gave birth frame, which, which is the transformation, probe, that we, we were meant, bring, that didn't exist, back in November 20, that's why I'm saying, like, you know, I think so, yeah, so, so often, we judge what we've done, because we can look backwards, and go, oh, well if I had known then, what I know, and it's like, yeah, but you didn't know that, that if you have, the tools, to allow them to work, through your system, create this expansion, and bring you, the new life, and change your, and get all cooperative, component, because it was through, that breakdown, beginning of two, that whole new frame was born, and, that I actually discovered, core probe, worry, and learned how to render, and at the same time, you were going through your own, so we were really, in this birthing process, not only of you, actually giving birth, Gabriel, during that period of time, but of us, rebirthing Biz, yeah, and it's, and it's important to understand, because I think, we all go through these, birthing processes, it's not a thing, you get to a point, where the vision, that you had, is achieved, and then, there's another contraction, and as you work, through those tractions, which, I mean, listen, I'm not gonna tend to experience, because I only miss you in labor, so, try to tend to go with like, because I don't, and I never will, but I saw, come up track, and that was, and that is a natural part, of the process, but we want to avoid, like, you know, because we don't understand, that this is happening, we want to kill the contract, we want to end the contract, we want to medicate track, but if you really want, to move into this next level, of vision, that you, of creation, or wealth, or health, purpose, or whatever it is, there ain't a way, to circumvent it, and so, we experience that, and then, that process, we learn so much, around, how to, how to work, with, how to have, how to not hustle, and how to create space, how to do these things, that we hear about, but we've never really understood, how allow, and we're gonna, we're gonna talk about that, here in a second, but you know, my contraction, was through, but yours was through, letting go of control, the year. The year, so, we were starting, and somewhere, during, I knew, I saw, that I will, either pay, or have, so I started, with two, I had a plan, I planned it all out, age, manager, and, we needed a whole team, to replace you. Yeah, I needed three people, so I started, hiring, hire, quite a few, like, for like, wallet, hat, they did the assignments well, that we put people through, their references were incredible, with the, quitting in, and, time was, I was in, I could remember I was, so stressed out, so, David very,very creative. He asked for a very cold beer without angels. I but I created all miserable. Then I was, I didn't want frustrated place place. So when I heard that he asked why I was here, that it was a hat and, um, uh, and there was a hat and I wear it otherwise life didn't feel perfect. So I, but I, but I, why did I pay? Oh, now the job kept looped on and I thought I was. Yeah, it's, it's interesting the language you use too. For you, you were a troll free. Uh, I was worried. My brother was going more aware, realized, and we started seeing him some time. We were surrounded by him too. So as their businesses track to expand that go, uh, personality ways he got work, but it was terrifying do cause you're not aware of, you don't know how to be. So what really being asked to do is to stop doing that has become your go-to way of care of yourself, safe seating and stop doing things. So mine says, well then what else do I do? And it's almost like free right experience. And it's one of the beautiful things about the program. You know, we spend three weeks on work through, when we, when we take everyone whole frame is that it forces you into a deeper forces trap because it's not one of those things where you go, well, I'm going to stop doing this. Just like, no, you're going to stop trolling. And I remember that conversation had with our friend tour where he helped the, the fear you will make a date and irony of, well, we have to let dates otherwise they can never self-correct prove. And so you were spending all the time running around about any stakes happen. So the team was never really motivated to, to self-correct. Um, and so we, we, you know, this process that we went through, uh, the space was created as stop, stop worry. And we both started trust and we focused on our own self and our wellbeing. Um, all of a sudden team started and the answers we were looking for, that we were trying to brute force around, what do we do in business? They just merge the whole human framework, just merge whole human network, just showed up in the space in our willingness to go. We don't know what next, but we know that we're not going to bring what we've been doing into this present moment. And then realize my core program, I realize that I then say, all we do is double. It's simple. It's not easy. It's not, not easy. It's that difficult. Yeah. You're so habit. Yeah. And, and I, I, that I'm married by us, we're best at doing, uh, and you, I saw, uh, uh, super wedding. That was how fast she was, uh, uh, or, uh, so sounds like it's not a deal you enter that or that my will do it up. You are being an exam core program and work through it because the beauty. And again, what, what, what I'm wanting, uh, we both started out in clarity and life guided way knees together and period of time where we even clear drug, create program years of up, and then we created, and then as we were living vision, it sort of built up men based on who we had been when created, but we were being called change to expand our content, more available past for the next level. But, and so the old vision stopped work and it hosts to stop. Well, I don't know. It became obvious for us. Sure. Looking backwards. I think when you're in the midst of, it's not obvious at all. It's like, Oh my God, I spent all this time and energy trying to get point. I got to get it to rework. And you know, one of the interesting things is you're now starting to play the game rather than win playing the game, not lose. And so everything moves you in fight or flight, parasitic state. Um, that's actually part of the process too. Cause you know, at some point you, you acquiesce, you go, okay, I got it. Like, I guess this is the way the post work. Uh, and the transition, which is what we're wanting people to do, because I think so few people understand it is at that point in time, uh, what you're being called to do is let go of core of who you come so that the, there could be the face merge, the neck love you. Uh, and it's very scary because life, spirit, or you know, God does show you worse. You're, you're, you're called to let go of what you using hold on life. Uh, very much like that Steve Harvey YouTube video around cliff life jump, but only after you jump, you realize parachute and parachute will open. It doesn't open jump. So that's happened. And, and the way to work through, I think, I think many of us realize that there's something going on in our behavior that feels, feel, uh, that, that is crippling and limiting in our life. Uh, send sometime, think, feeling, found that work out, uh, but we don't really know. And no matter how much personal growth do imply, just can't seem to change. Cause he is, this isn't one chain. Uh, so beautiful thing about all this is that what life is asked to do is joy. It's asking us to go and do guys. You know, I spoke to a woman in our last event, our legendary business event, a breakdown event, you don't have all the cashflow, business craze. So I helped her calm down. I helped see the worst case scenario. She said, are you going to be okay? And she said, but what's my business? And I said, well, what were you, what were all the forks? Started talking about how to lady dress. Yeah, I used to volunteer at such a wee church. Well, here's your back volunteer. She said, well, how is that going to help figure out my business? I said, because you're going to stop doing core program, trying to figure all out how I'm showing up and you're going to create space. Space. The end's very counter to it. Very, Hey, Carol, you're going to start work. Don't troll us. And that's actually going to lead you. I was four. Correct. Cause I physically, I couldn't get up. That's life work for you. Because I could, yeah, I could see how I fight it. I mean, I was a fight. Yeah, but you developed Mon once I helped you on don't trolling, right. We'll do anything else, but you developed your own. Yeah. So cause I, I know how then I know how to work. Yeah. And then you, how do you act like you're being trolling? So I cool like this. So even though I, I was sending it over and over it. So I was still sized. It's a compulsion addiction. That's why the, that's why some of the aspects 12. Yeah. And I, you, our work will, um, understand that you keep in the neural networks going energetic. So even so what I did, well, don't do I'm doing. So what I decided was there was you to, um, that catch or a, that he has, um, goes like, I go off that wheels. So if I, that I was cold, but over that smell, but even better than courteousness out of it, her model emphasize all those after we, a lot of people, let me figure this thing out and then I'll have, and I think, you know, that, that story of us going 22 is birth actual world, the world, world worse building into your hash rate to force a in case you know how your children for your body, right? All of the stuff covering through what occurred during the pandemic. Rethink how handle way. There's so much read world. And, um, I believe to talk that the way to Navarro, it seems chaos all South Bay. I, there's more opportunity for let go of the old now and allow your hardest, the hardest year ever. The other gift kind of model, but now going to go back to your life and, uh, be that we are right. Like knowing able, well-created whole goal. And now everybody's just so here that's why it's yes. I'm always bad. I thought that's not out. So by how human give us the, so, um, as Carol and I mentioned before, we've got a ton of resources, new lists, check out W free challenges throughout year, a couple of times a year where Opal work, um, which is into a daily prac fellowship, business living, hearing personal growth. I want to hear, I, I know you're very busy. It's keeping you and me very, very busy. Um, but it was awesome. Uh, we will see you, uh, in the next episode, wherever you are. Thank you being here in sanctuary for human spirit. See you soon.