Ron: I've been having problems with people. I've been wrestling with that before. The Lord—I already know the end result. The end result is I'm wrong, and He's right. He's gonna speak through people that you just… they rub you wrong.
They just rub you wrong all the time. The things they say just rub you wrong. They don't witness to you, and they bug you, and you try to keep a right spirit and a right attitude in it. See, all of that—I want to throw it in the trash can.
Debbie: Right.
Ron: Right. I just have to give it to the Lord, just keep giving it to the Lord, going, “Lord, help me with this,” because I know that's not right—that You have to be able to speak through anyone to me.
And some of the stuff they may say right now may not make any sense to you, or it bothers you, but later on it may make sense to you.
Ken: I don't rely on human nature. I'm not bonded to anybody's human nature. You could say anything to me. If it's not in the Spirit, I may receive it and I may not, but I'm not bonded to it.
And I think there's a key in that, because if you break your bonds with people on a human level, and you're only connected to what they say and you receive in the Spirit, then those things don't bother you.
Debbie: That's a lesson that we all need to learn—to be able to listen, able to hear, but not just to take it to ourselves. Hold it before the Lord. If it's from the Lord, the Lord's gonna minister to you something from it. If it's not, it's not gonna affect you in any way.
Ask the Holy Spirit to show you what to take and what not to take.
Ron: A lot of people are very strong in their opinions, very strong in their beliefs, and so you're gonna run up against people that are very strong in their beliefs. That doesn't mean they're right.
But see, we have to be able to have the right spirit and the right attitude in it so that we're not tossed by every wind and wave and doctrine and all this stuff. We just simply listen and, like you said, Deb, we're able to hear it, take it to the Lord, and still minister to them what the Lord wants to minister.
Debbie: What's behind what they're saying. They may not even know what they're doing, but there's a spirit behind it. The Lord shows you, and you can take authority over it. You can bless them and minister and love them.
You have to keep your spirit open and right before the Lord. That's the key. That's the first and only step. You must have your relationship set on the Lord. You must know His leading.You must be sensitive and humble and broken in your spirit. That's the main thing—keep yourself humble, keep yourself broken, and keep yourself in His presence.
Ron: It's come to the place of just asking the Lord, because you're in His presence and He speaks to you. Because I don't want to rely, honestly, on discernment. I want to rely on the voice of the Lord.
Ken: If you can drop what you're thinking in spite of how impacted you were with what you thought—if you can just drop it and hear what God's speaking—wow, that's huge. People are gonna say and do things that you don't agree with.
Ron: Mm-hmm.
Ken: You don't have to buy into it. All you have to do is love them and be one with the Lord on earth.
Debbie: We're making a choice. I choose to walk this way. I choose not to be open to anything else but the leading of the Lord. I choose what to do—whether to give myself to that or to wait and hold it before the Lord.
Ken: And so we can impart, we can draw, we can give, and we absolutely just love each other unconditionally.
Ron: I think a lot of those—the spirit of what you're talking about, the heart, the spirit of it—it's a two-sided coin. Because you know that God loves you, the Lord loves you, and He does totally, but His love is not human.
So it's like you are His workmanship. So He's gonna get the chisel out again and the hammer, and He's gonna be chiseling away. He's gonna be working on us. And it's in love. And it's totally love.
It doesn't mean it's fun, the things that we go through. I always bring that up because it's so real to me. I never want to paint a picture of a walk with God that is all roses. God's serious about wanting you to walk with Him, to have a relationship with Him, and to have His nature.
That doesn't just happen. It happens because of the things we walk through and He puts us through. We've been talking about that lately—keeping a right spirit like Job did, even through the hard times, where He's really working on your spirit, your attitudes, your thinking.
Of course I want to have a right spirit and all that. Do I always? No, I don't. He works on you some more. He'll never give up. He'll never give up because of His love for you, because of what His Son did.
There's just no way He's giving up. His Son's gonna get the reward of His sufferings. We are the reward of His sufferings. I want to be a son that He's proud of. I want to be a son that He looks at and He smiles.
Debbie: Well done, good and faithful servant. Well done.
Ken: There's so much that God is doing in all of our lives today, and when we come together, there is an explosion in the Spirit, in that He begins to speak through a many-membered body.
Today is an experience. Now we belong to a body of people, a fellowship of people— Who love each other.
Mike:. The spirit of inclusion. When you speak, you speak with words that include them into what you're saying. They're my brothers and sisters in the Lord.
It is so much family—so much of the Word flow, washing one another by the Word of the Lord, growing and maturing. And the oneness is just growing as well.
Debbie: It's so nice to feel communion—that communicating one heart to another. I love just being able to be free before the Lord.
We thank You for our relationships with one another. We thank You for Your Spirit—what You've done within us, and what You're doing, and what You're creating. We thank You, Lord.