Welcome to Animal Posse, the podcast dedicated to the
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:people and rescues making a
difference in the lives of animals.
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:Today's guest is Dezzie Howe with
Healing Broken Hearts Rescue.
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:Hi Dezzie, how are you?
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:Dezzie: Hi, how are you?
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:Dixie: I'm good.
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:Thanks for coming on the show.
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:I appreciate it.
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:Dezzie: Thanks for
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:asking me.
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:Dixie: Yeah.
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:I'm looking forward to learning
about Healing Broken Hearts Rescue.
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:to begin could you please share a bit
about your background and what initially
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:sparked your passion for animal welfare?
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:Dezzie: Mine is lifelong.
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:My stepdad of 20 years trained police
dogs, so we had 40 kennels and a
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:training ground, so I grew up in it,
and then I started working in a animal
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:shelter and I did that for 10 years
and then I switched over to rescue.
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:Dixie: With the Healing
Broken Hearts Rescue.
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:What is your title?
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:Dezzie: I'm the
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:director.
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:Dixie: And when was the
organization founded?
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:Dezzie: 2019
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:Dixie: what is your mission and
what is a day like in the life
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:of Healing Broken Hearts Rescue.
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:Dezzie: The mission is to
change the educational system
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:on how we treat animals.
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:I would like to build and teach a
whole new way to do animal shelters.
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:There's a better way to do it.
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:I honestly believe there is a
better way to do it where we could
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:help our community a lot more.
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:We could get our kids involved in
it and we could help our veterans.
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:Dixie: When you say a better way,
what is your vision of a better way?
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:Dezzie: No more cages.
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:Let's stop treating 'em
like they're prisoners.
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:It's not necessary.
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:It's lazy.
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:It's because they won't put
anyone in a facility 24 hours.
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:They won't do night shifts,
so you have to use cages.
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:And my idea is to turn it over to veterans
and build them into veterans housing,
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:that takes care of your animal population.
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:. We have it all drawn out.
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:We have a whole plan.
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:Dixie: Tell me about it.
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:I'd love to hear more about this.
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:It's a very interesting concept for sure.
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:Dezzie: Think about it.
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:If you took and you had one main
building and you put in 25 tiny houses,
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:no kitchens in them, you have one main
kitchen . Main laundry, and all they had
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:was bathrooms and bedrooms in the tinies.
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:You could put two veterans
per tiny and each one could be
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:in charge of two dogs, right?
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:And then you could have your
dogs that were just coming in
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:or just starting training or
haven't been placed in groups yet.
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:The main building.
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:And you could have 50 dogs working
with your veterans, getting ready
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:for adoptions or being trained to be
service animals for other veterans.
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:There's a concept, actually helping
our veterans out because that way
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:you're housing your veterans, you're
giving them a purpose, and everyone
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:knows for depression and stuff,
animals are really good for you.
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:They help with that.
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:You could really do a lot of
good by having them all together,
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:and give them a purpose and take a lot
of the strain and stuff off of your
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:smaller counties that can't afford it.
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:Could I go off subject for just
a second and tell you . What
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:made me go in that direction?
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:Dixie: Yes, please.
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:Dezzie: Okay.
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:About 10 years ago my brother who
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:Owned a construction company,
thought I was nuts for dedicating
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:so much time to animals.
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:But he described it in a way that's
always stuck with me and why I wanna
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:make the change so desperately on
what we're doing in this country.
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:The county shelters the big shelters,
he said those are like federal prisons.
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:Those are the big prisons.
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:We treat 'em the same.
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:They're out an hour a day.
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:They're treated just like they've
done something wrong to be
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:there and most of 'em have not.
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:And he said the smaller rescues
around, are your county jails
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:still in kennels all the time.
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:Still on that, very few
get very much freedom.
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:And he said, but the way I do it here,
because I do open pack, he said, this
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:is a halfway house and it hit me.
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:Why do we have to have the other two?
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:They could all be done the way
I'm doing it if we changed up the
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:way we did the human side of it.
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:Dixie: I understand.
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:So explain how you do it
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:Dezzie: Okay.
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:I don't use any kennels.
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:I don't use kennels.
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:I have kennel here in case of a bad
storm or something like that, or
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:just when we have new ones come in
and they're acclimating, but once
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:they're acclimated, they get put
into one of three groups and then
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:they're just let to be dogs.
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:And
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:it's set up.
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:I have special beds made.
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:I have rooms dedicated, and
they just get to be dogs.
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:They each have their own yard to play in.
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:They've all got their
own groups to play with.
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:One of my groups is 22, 1 group is 13
and the other group is seven right now.
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:And they don't have to be
in kennels all the time.
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:There's no reason for it.
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:There's no reason for 'em to
be separated from each other.
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:They need that connection
as much as humans.
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:It doesn't do well to put
them in solitary confinement.
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:We call it kennel Crazy.
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:And a lot of dogs that have
been in shelter situations
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:tend to go kennel crazy.
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:And that's where the ugly
side of that job comes in.
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:And we have to do eus
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:And being an EU tech for as many years
as I was, I'd like to make it so no
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:one else ever has to do that job.
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:And in most shelters it's a requirement
because the way they house dogs.
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:Dogs don't do well.
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:So I think we need to switch it up
and there's a better way to do it.
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:Dixie: The way that I handle my cats
is, we will have separate rooms for 'em.
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:I don't really kennel 'em or keep
'em in a cage unless I have to, like
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:when I do tiny babies, so of course
when they're little tiny babies,
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:I have to put 'em in something.
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:Dezzie: sick, tiny, surgeries.
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:Dixie: Yeah.
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:I have to put 'em in
something till I get home.
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:But then when I come home, it's like at
playtime they get their own separate room.
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:When I go to work again in the morning,
they might go in their little thing, but
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:they have plenty of room to run around.
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:But once they get a certain age,
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:Dezzie: absolutely
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:Dixie: and they're all vaccinated
and everybody's healthy, they
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:come out into general population.
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:So they can come get
along with the big cats.
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:Dezzie: Exactly.
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:Dixie: Yeah
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:Dezzie: but listen to the way we so
naturally called what you just called it.
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:It was natural and easy for both of
us to call it general population.
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:Dixie: Yes.
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:I never thought about it like that
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:Dezzie: exactly.
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:Dixie: Yeah.
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:That's very interesting.
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:Dezzie: And
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:it is a normalcy for us to do that.
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:And it shouldn't be, they're
animals, they're not criminals.
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:Because words matter.
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:Dixie: They do.
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:Yeah, absolutely.
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:Dezzie: And the perception that's
why shelters have so many look
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:I'm not going to a shelter.
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:They're wild animals.
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:It's because we treat them
like they're wild animals.
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:We don't treat them like they were
somebody's pet that got loose or
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:somebody had to give up an animal that
had been living in a home forever, or
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:somebody had a cat and they passed away.
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:We don't treat them like
that in the shelter system.
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:And that's because.
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:They don't have anybody to be
there 24 7 in the shelter system.
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:They only have day shift.
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:The animals are left in cages all night.
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:See what I mean?
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:And I think that we could change that.
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:My cats are all loose and I took, and
I built a cattery outside of my house.
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:They have a room inside that connects
to a huge room outside, which connects
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:to 14 kennels that I hung from the
ceiling and put pathways that leads to a
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:carport that leads to another huge room.
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:Dixie: Oh, that sounds amazing.
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:Dezzie: That's secured.
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:Dixie: I have to see a picture of that.
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:That sounds absolutely amazing.
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:Dezzie: I'm on
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:TikTok.
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:Okay.
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:We're HBH Rescue on TikTok.
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:And it's healing broken
hearts on Facebook.
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:And I have pictures of Cat
City and of my dog rooms.
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:Got lots of little videos
that we've put up there.
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:Dixie: Sounds like they would
have a good time in that.
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:Now I'm building, a cat sanctuary.
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:We're at the ground level, so we
still have a lot left to do, my vision
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:is similar to what you explained.
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:So we're gonna make a room for where they
have a big indoor space, but then we want
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:them to have a safe, enclosed outdoor
space that they can go enjoy the sun in.
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:Dezzie: Yeah.
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:And the one out in the front, the top
of it is chicken wire, so it's open
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:to the sun, but the walkways, and I
hope they don't look at you as crazy
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:as they did me when I built this,
because I kept telling everybody
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:that I was going to use all of my
transport kennels in a very unusual way.
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:And they're like, what are you gonna do?
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:And I said, I'm gonna hang
them from the ceiling.
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:And they're like, what are you doing?
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:And then I got sewer pipes, the plastic
PVC, great big ones, and I cut 'em in
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:half longways, uhhuh, and made walkways.
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:Yeah, that goes from
one kennel to another.
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:And I netted it all in and it leads, like
I said to the carport where we built a
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:whole nother enclosure on the carport
for them to be able to go from all the
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:way inside the house around the house.
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:Come out, hit a couple rooms, go
through and they're in it all the time.
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:They love it.
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:And it gives them lots and lots of space.
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:But if you don't have a lot of money
and you've got , an overhang on your
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:house that's pretty good size or a
carport, hanging kennels is cheap.
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:Doing walkways, you can use a
fence board, to do a walkway.
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:Part of mine are done with that.
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:Part of 'em are done with two of 'em
are done with the tubes from carpet.
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:Dixie: Uhhuh.
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:Yeah.
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:Dezzie: And we painted the
tubes so it looks like tunnels.
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:We call it Cat city.
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:Dixie: Yeah, I can imagine.
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:They must love it.
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:Dezzie: They do.
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:And it's amazing on how fast
they all learn to run up and
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:down through it and play.
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:And there's stuff hanging in a
lot of the cages that are up there
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:for 'em to stop and play with.
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:And they all connect one to the other.
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:And I have them out
with the dogs that way.
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:So it helps train the
dogs not to be aggressive
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:towards cats.
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:Dixie: And how many residents
do you have in total?
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:Dezzie: Okay, so I've got I think 36 pups.
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:Our dogs right now, we
have 22 cats all together.
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:I have eight chickens
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:and one old fat house pig,
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:which I adopted from the
shelter that I worked at.
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:Dixie: And can I ask what
shelter you worked at?
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:Dezzie: I worked at Jefferson Parish . I
worked at Vermilion County before that.
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:In Illinois.
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:Dixie: So suppose there is a rescue
that's listening that does a lot of the
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:kenneling and does a lot of the cages.
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:What advice would you offer them
to transition to what you do?
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:Dezzie: Stop being scared.
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:They're dogs.
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:They listen, they're natural pack animals.
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:They are not trying to kill
each other all the time.
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:They'll argue with each other, but
you can correct them like you're
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:on a playground with children.
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:It is not hard to do.
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:I'm not gonna say that it, it's not easy
'cause you have to stay vigilant with it.
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:But even at the animal shelter
when I was there, I got to
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:where I had play groups up to.
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:15, 20 dogs in a playgroup there, it can
be done, it can be done in a shelter.
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:It can be done in a rescue.
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:There's it's fear.
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:I think a lot of it is fear.
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:A lot of people that got their heart in
the right place that really wanna help,
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:but they have that fear in the back of
their head because dogs can be scary, and
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:you just, you have to get past that fear.
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:Dixie: Yeah, I can understand that
because I know, like with the cats, I
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:hear it a lot with people that, oh, my
cat doesn't get along with other cats.
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:And it's no, if you do it the
right way, they get along.
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:Now they might not love each other,
but they will tolerate each other.
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:There's just ways to do it.
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:Dezzie: Exactly.
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:One of the biggest things is
animals pick up on our emotions.
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:You have to go in like a boss.
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:If you want to integrate animals
together, you have to go in like
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:the boss saying, this is what we're
going to do, no questions asked.
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:This is how it's done.
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:And they'll follow you.
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:Dixie: I definitely agree with that,
with the whole emotion thing too.
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:And for anybody that is skeptical
about that, just look at like, when
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:you're stressed out, your animals
are stressed out or you know when
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:you're worried, 'cause you gotta
take your animal to the vet.
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:Your animal is gonna get
worried too and start hiding.
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:It's like they know.
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:Dezzie: Or when you're in a goofy
mood and you're playing, you'll
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:notice your animal will get more
hyped up and wanna play with you.
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:Dixie: Yep, definitely.
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:Dezzie: They feel all the emotions,
and they'll pick up on it and they
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:will follow what you set forth.
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:People are always telling
me, what you do is amazing.
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:I know I'm one of the
few that does what I do.
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:But I just believe that if you really
want to do this and do it right, you
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:cannot be afraid, even a little bit.
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:And yeah, you may get
bit, that's part of it.
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:It's gonna happen sooner or later.
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:Kids fight on the playground every day.
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:You gotta go break 'em up, dogs don't
even fight as often as children do,
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:but they do once in a while and there
is a chance and you've gotta be able
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:to, willing to stand toe to toe in it.
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:If you wanna make a very happy,
adjusted animal, I don't believe
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:kennels are the way to go.
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:Dixie: How do you integrate the
pig and the chickens into this mix?
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:Dezzie: You should check my
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:videos.
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:He's with the dogs.
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:Here's the funny thing.
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:I adopted four animals
from the animal shelter.
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:I adopted three black dogs
because, black dog syndrome and
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:a black pig all at the same time.
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:They're all now seven years old.
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:We built Bo his own bedroom in the house.
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:But he is always hung out with dogs and
he actually lives with two great danes.
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:Do you know what great
Danes are known for?
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:Dixie: What's that?
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:Dezzie: Hunting pigs.
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:Dixie: Really?
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:I didn't know that.
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:Dezzie: Yeah, that's what
they were originally bred
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:out to do was hunt wild pigs.
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:Huh.
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:And I have two living with a pig side by
side and they have now for seven years.
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:It's all about the training
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:Dixie: Where are the chickens at now?
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:Dezzie: They're on the carport right now
with the dogs because we are building
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:a brand new chicken coop for 'em.
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:They're getting a whole new house.
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:Dixie: Yeah.
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:And it sounds like you have some
chicken math going on too, huh?
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:Dezzie: I do.
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:And we've always got
chicken math going on.
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:And here's a fun thing.
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:My mother, I had mentioned a couple
weeks ago that I would love to have
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:Easter Eggers all of mine lay brown eggs.
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:And I was whining to my mom that I wanted
some that laid pretty green and blue eggs.
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:And my daughter happened to have somebody
give her a dozen fresh eggs from a farm,
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:and they happened to be Easter egger eggs.
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:They had been in the refrigerator.
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:My mom says let's try it.
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:And she took that dozen eggs and
put 'em in her incubator, and
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:I have five new babies coming.
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:Dixie: Oh, wow.
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:Congratulations.
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:Dezzie: From a refrigerator.
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:They had been refrigerated eggs
and we still got them to hatch out.
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:Dixie: Roosters too?
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:Dezzie: No, Ru I did have, but I've
got a friend of mine that lives
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:outside of Orleans Parish on a farm,
and he takes the roos because they
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:made it illegal to have 'em here.
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:Dixie: Yeah.
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:Dezzie: And so I work with another farmer.
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:That if we ever get roos, they've
got a safe place to go and they just
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:get to be farm roos at that point.
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:Dixie: Yeah.
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:'cause it's hard finding
a place for them to go.
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:'cause people just don't
think of 'em the same way.
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:Dezzie: No, they don't.
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:Which is, very sad because pretty soon
everybody gonna want their own chickens.
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:Chickens are really
interesting animals to have.
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:They can become very
loving and very friendly.
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:The babies are only a couple weeks
old, but now whenever I go to their
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:pen, they immediately, will jump
on my feet and will ride my feet
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:around while I'm walking around.
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:It's really cute when they're little.
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:My mom keeps saying, whatcha are
you gonna do when they grow up?
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:And I was like, I dunno, but it's
so cute now I can't stop 'em.
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:Dixie: Yeah, I find they're actually a lot
like cats with the curiosity and stuff.
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:Like they'll follow, they
really are around and they're
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:like, what are you doing?
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:Let me see what you're doing.
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:Dezzie: Always interested in
what you got in your hands.
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:Is that for
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:me?
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:They are very cute.
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:Dixie: The animals that you have,
do you adopt those out as well?
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:Dezzie: I do not the chickens,
the cats and the pig.
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:No, I do cat sanctuary here.
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:So a lot of the cats we have are older.
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:I don't know if you've
heard of Julia Ackil.
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:She is the absolute best TNR
person down here in this area.
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:She is amazing.
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:She does so much for so many
and gets so little in return.
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:But she had a colony of cats that
the person that was taking care
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:of them was no longer with them.
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:And the neighbors were doing horrendous
things and she was so upset one
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:night and she put out a post going,
Hey I gotta get these cats moved.
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:And there was a bunch of them
and she's I've gotta move them.
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:So I just very quietly got ahold
of her and sent her pictures
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:of my cattery and I says, Hey.
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:It's empty.
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:And she says how many can you take?
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:And I started laughing.
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:I said, all of them, get that
colony moved and let's get it safe.
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:And so a lot of my cats have been
together, they're from a colony.
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:A couple of my cats are from Texas,
where we went down there and helped
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:out and brought some in from Texas.
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:Most of those we did get adopted because
they, we brought them in as kittens.
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:And if they're kittens, I
don't mind adopting them.
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:The older cats, I won't
separate from each other.
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:I just, I have the space
for 'em and I have the time.
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:There's no reason to make 'em
start all over at their ages,
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:when , most of 'em are a family unit.
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:I would imagine that they're probably
from the area they came out of.
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:They're probably all related
in one way or another.
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:Dixie: Were they feral when you got em?
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:Dezzie: Some, but we've got
that pretty much worked out.
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:They all like food and we kept 'em
for months just in the two rooms.
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:I blocked off most of the walkway and just
gave 'em the inside room and the outside
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:room where I could get into both rooms.
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:So I would just go in and sit with them
for hours and get everybody used to me.
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:My cat room's pretty
comfortable to go sit in.
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:Dixie: Yeah, I think that's a
misconception people have too,
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:is that once a cat is feral,
it's always gonna be feral.
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:I have TNR Cats
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:I have a few at my home and then I
have a few actually at my business.
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:And when they came over here, we could
not touch 'em, they would see us, they
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:would run, we would put the food out
and now we can pick 'em up if we want.
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:Now we're the only ones that can do it.
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:Dezzie: And see, to me,
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:that tells me all I
need to know about you.
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:You good in my book Ferals like you.
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:When you can turn a feral
friendly then you all right.
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:You just, are you all right?
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:I've got a couple.
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:I'm so proud that this last couple
weeks the hard nose feral I had
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:finally after months has let me
touch him and I've been so excited.
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:. Dixie: It is exciting when they come
around and it's like when they come around
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:I find it's not like bit by bit, it's one
day they're running from you and the next
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:day they're like, Hey, let's be friends.
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:Dezzie: Yep.
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:Yep.
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:When they make up their mind,
they make up their mind.
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:There's no second guess.
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:And they're like, okay.
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:You've passed, you now get to be
a friend, which I think is great.
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:But dogs are a lot the same way as cats.
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:Like that, feral dogs can be the same way.
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:Dixie: So do you look for homes
for the dogs that you have?
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:Dezzie: I do.
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:I had some health issues a
while back ago and I died for
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:a very short period of time.
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:I had two heart attacks in a day, and
then I had to have a series of surgeries.
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:So I've been just on
survival mode for a while.
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:We haven't been doing a lot of
adoptions because of my health.
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:I just haven't dug it.
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:It's mainly been just keep 'em safe,
keep 'em happy, keep 'em alive, and we
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:will work on that when I can dedicate, 12
hours a day to it again I do one or two
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:. Like two weeks ago, we did an adoption.
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:We're not doing the number
of adoptions we were before.
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:So I've had the same group here for
a little longer than what most are,
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:but honestly, that's completely me.
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:It has absolutely nothing to do with
this amazing group of pups I have here.
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:They've been dealing with me quite well.
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:I've been so impressed with
all of them because of it.
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:But I slowed down because of my health
and I'm starting to get healthy again,
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:and I'm starting to, surgeries are
all done and I'm feeling better, so
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:we're starting to get back into it.
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:I'm just pacing myself,
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:Dixie: yeah, it's a lot going on, so
you do need to definitely take it slow.
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:Dezzie: Yeah.
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:Everybody, they're like,
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:you need to get rid of all of 'em.
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:I was like, no, I don't, because
that would kill me again.
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:What I need is for everybody, just,
let me take the time I need to heal.
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:That has been probably the most
helpful part is I've got a core group
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:that comes and helps when I need it.
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:But most days we just we do pretty
good without too much trouble.
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:Dixie: When you do adoptions, do you
attend events or do you do like pet finder
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:online, Facebook, those kinds of things?
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:Dezzie: Yeah.
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:I will not do events
down here in New Orleans.
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:I'm sorry, I won't go around it.
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:I don't wanna be a part of it.
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:I don't wanna be a part
of that culture down here.
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:I think it's extremely toxic.
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:I think it's unhelpful to the animals.
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:I haven't really done a lot on pet
finders lately . We do a lot of Facebook,
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:and a lot of mine are word of mouth.
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:I've done over 2000
animals through my home.
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:Wow.
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:So through, through the rescue
and I've been all over the place.
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:So I've got friends and we've had
so many really great adoptions.
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:That word of mouth has done a lot for
us because we consistently put out.
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:Good dogs, adjusted happy dogs.
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:But we will probably go back to
doing pet finders once everything
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:calms down a little bit.
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:Dixie: So tell me what
you mean about toxic.
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:Dezzie: Here's something that I think
would change a lot of it really quickly.
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:I think before you should be able to get a
5 0 1 C3, I think one of the requirements
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:is you should have to work a couple years
in a shelter, in an actual animal shelter.
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:So you understand
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:Really what the true other side of it is.
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:I believe that.
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:Something that was extremely
toxic was called Save Them All.
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:And that is probably one of the worst
things that's ever happened because
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:they will spend thousands and thousands
of dollars on one animal to extend
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:its life a couple of months instead
of making the responsible decision to
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:either let that animal go at that point
or make it as comfortable as it can
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:be until it goes and spend the money
on actually getting animals moved.
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:So I believe that and then stop
trying to save the ones that are
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:so far gone that are a danger.
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:Because they can't make the hard decision.
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:And that's why I believe you should have
to have a couple years in a shelter.
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:Because there, you have
to make that decision.
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:And if you can't, then it shows
you're in the wrong field.
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:I'm sorry.
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:I know that because I'm from shelter
work and I was an a ACA for so long,
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:sometimes it makes me sound very.
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:Cold and harsh, and I'm not trying to be,
but there is a responsible way of doing
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:things and there is an irresponsible way.
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:And right now, I know for the last
seven years this whole country has
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:been on a very irresponsible trek
when it comes to animal welfare.
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:Dixie: A problem that I see,
is that a lot of rescues, they
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:don't wanna work together.
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:Dezzie: Yes.
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:That's why I won't work
with them down here.
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:I've got great rescues in Texas, in
Mississippi, in New York, in Connecticut,
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:and the girls up in Illinois are fabulous.
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:And I've got ones in Ohio I've
been working with, and they're all
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:great and everybody works together.
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:Dixie: It just drives me crazy
because we're all here , for the same
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:reason we're all helping animals.
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:Dezzie: I am gonna show my age a
little bit, but I've been doing just
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:the rescue and stuff for 32 years with
the groups of animals in my house and.
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:Working at the shelters and having
the rescue and back and forth.
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:And I've been doing this a long
time in a lot of places, and I was a
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:military wife, so we moved all over.
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:So I find that it's worse here
than I've ever seen anywhere else.
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:I have different rescues inviting me to
please move up around us all the time.
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:And here you can't even get them to.
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:Now one of 'em was so bad, she
was getting extra food and stuff
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:and she was letting it go bad.
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:Instead of calling other rescues around
and saying, Hey, could you use this?
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:She would just throw it away.
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:Now come on, that's toxic.
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:We all fight in the same fight i've
gotten quite a few very large donations
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:here because they've got the words
gotten out that whatever I get, I share.
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:If I've got extra, it's going to
somebody else in need, like cat food.
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:I was sending a lot of that down to Houma,
to the rescues down there and dog food.
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:We were getting large groups,
things of dog food for a while.
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:And instead of other groups working
with me on it, they went behind and got
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:it canceled for us because they didn't
like that we were getting dog food.
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:Dixie: Oh, that's a shame.
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:Dezzie: Yeah, because now I struggle
trying to make sure everybody
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:gets fed every day, and we had
that to a point where that was
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:one worry we just didn't have.
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:So we could worry about all the others.
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:We were able to take in a few more.
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:We were able to have our numbers
a little higher 'cause we didn't
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:have to worry about dog food.
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:And, I've got two really great
vets that I work with that I think
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:are fabulous when I need them.
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:And it's Dr.
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:Sachs.
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:He's in New Orleans, absolutely
amazing at surgeries.
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:Amazing.
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:I've seen that man and his team go
in and do 20 surgeries in an in a
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:And he's done that several times for me.
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:I know he is done it for others.
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:I know he does the TNR
programs, he donates to that.
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:And then Dr.
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:Shine, she's a traveling vet who does
large animals, but she also comes here and
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:we try to get her in once, maybe twice a
year, every year to do a rabies clinic.
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:And she does the three
year rabies shot for $20.
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:So makes it affordable for people.
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:She's pretty amazing.
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:So it's just, there are some
down here that will work with
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:everybody, but you'll find that they
don't deal with a lot of rescue.
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:Yeah.
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:But I'm not a regular rescuer
because I'm a shelter worker.
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:I'm an a ACA, first and foremost.
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:I've been an a ACA most of my life,
and I look at it much differently than
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:what somebody who's never had a lot.
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:And I don't agree with
the foster based rescues.
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:Dixie: Can I ask why?
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:Dezzie: Yeah, you can,
because we were gonna try it.
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:The first three fosters we got in
here decided they knew better than
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:us and they wouldn't listen to us.
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:And one of 'em ran a vet bill up
to $10,000 without our permission
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:going behind our back to run a
dog back and forth to the vet, for
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:the vet to keep telling her there
was nothing wrong with the dog.
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:And then I got stuck with $10,000
worth of a bill because of it.
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:Another one decided she knew
better and adopted out our animals
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:without telling us and wouldn't
tell us who she adopted them to.
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:No microchip.
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:One of 'em wasn't even fixed
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:and she got rid of our animals and
when we tried to do something about
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:it, the police, it's not a priority.
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:Animals are not a police priority.
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:There wasn't a whole lot
we could do about it.
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:So
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:you don't have
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:the control base.
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:You can't learn their behaviors.
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:You're not doing group settings.
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:There's a lot of things in the
behaviors that you're not understanding.
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:Because you're not around
that animal every day.
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:You don't know if that foster's got
that animal and that foster could
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:tell you anything, and that dog could
act one way with that foster and
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:act completely different with you.
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:And in order to do an actual
behavioral test, somebody who knows
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:what they're doing with large groups
of dogs needs to do that test.
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:And most rescues don't have that person.
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:I just think that it makes it for a more
unsafe environment when you're not testing
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:these dogs fully to know every little
quirk about them before you send them out.
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:You've got to know your animals because
you might have one I've got one dog here.
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:He is absolutely fabulous with people.
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:He's great with a couple different dogs,
but God help you, you get him out with
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:others that he don't know, ain't no
way, he's not nice, he can be a problem.
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:So his adoption will be very specific.
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:But we know this about him.
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:Why?
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:Because he's been with us for months and
we've been able to watch his behaviors
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:and test him on many different things.
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:I just think
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:it's safer.
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:Dixie: Earlier in our conversation,
you mentioned that you wanted
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:to start things with education.
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:Can we go touch on that a little bit?
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:Dezzie: Oh, absolutely.
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:I think that our students
should be more involved.
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:I think that kids should be taught
at a small age or a young age.
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:Jefferson Parish was doing a.
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:Reading time where we would take
dogs to a school and we'd go sit
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:in the library with a few of our
dogs and they would read to 'em.
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:We used to do 4th of July night at
the shelter, which is where students
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:would come in and hang out with
the dogs and read to 'em and stuff.
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:Why fireworks were going on.
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:I think that was an amazing program.
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:We used to have groups of kids come
to the shelter and we would spend the
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:whole day there teaching them what we
did and how we did things and we would
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:take 'em through and show 'em everything
and write down to a playgroup on how to
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:integrate dogs together at a shelter.
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:So I think that so many kids
have to get hours for school.
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:I think more of 'em should be encouraged
to do their hours at the animal shelters.
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:And have more programs set up.
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:And I think school hours should be
able to go to places like me who is a
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:rescue, where I could bring in a group
of five kids and give them their hours
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:and give them practical experience.
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:You
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:have it to where they could get their
school hours, plus I could be a reference
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:for them of practical experience in
a pack scenario of a large group of
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:dogs to where if they wanted to go
someplace because I don't know if
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:Orleans is, but Jefferson Parish, that's
a parish job with parish benefits.
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:That's a good paying job.
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:It's not a bad job at all.
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:And good overtime and, hazard
pay and all of that stuff.
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:And that would get their foot
in the door at a decent job.
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:You know what I mean?
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:Outta high school.
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:Dixie: I'm all for more
education programs too.
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:Dezzie: I think that's the way to
go if we really wanna change this.
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:We are never going to convince adults
to change the way they do things,
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:but man, we get ahold of the kids.
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:We can guarantee we could have
change in another, seven to 10 years
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:drastic change in this country.
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:, If we could teach the kids.
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:New ways of doing things.
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:Dixie: It's been an
interesting conversation.
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:I enjoyed learning about your setup
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:Do you have any adoption
success stories that we could
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:maybe end the conversation on?
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:Dezzie: Oh.
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:I have so many.
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:I get more emails from dogs than I do
humans from success stories where I've
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:got one point that sticks to mind.
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:Okay.
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:I adopted out a dog, and
this was 11 years ago.
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:I hadn't seen the dog in 10 years,
but I used to be the dog walker.
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:I'd babysat him.
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:I adopted him to the woman he was
living with, and we had a routine.
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:I would go over there three times a
week, go to the front door, he'd bring me
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:the leash, we'd go for a walk, and then
I'd come back, and that's what we did.
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:After his adoption, I just became
her dog sitter for her, and I moved
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:away and I came back and it had been
nine years and I hadn't seen her.
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:And I went over to her house and I got to
the front door and the dogs come up to me.
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:They had not seen me in nine years.
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:The dogs come up to me, Percy stands
there for a minute and I'm looking
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:hi Percy, how you doing buddy?.
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:And he took a good sniff of me and
all of a sudden he went right to his
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:basket, he grabbed his leash, brought
it to me, and I looked at her and I
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:said you know what I'm about to do?
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:And she goes, yeah, I'll see
you in about a half hour.
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:Dixie: Wow,
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:Dezzie: that's awesome.
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:After nine years he immediately
went and got his leash and he
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:took me right back on our walk.
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:Dixie: Wow.
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:That is awesome.
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:Dezzie: Yeah.
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:But I get a lot.
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:A couple weeks ago I was feeling
down and I put out in the universe,
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:what am I doing with my life?
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:And that day I probably got nine.
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:Nine different people messaged
me with updates on how
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:great their dogs were doing.
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:So there's a lot of success stories
in it, and that's what keeps us going.
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:Even in these hard times, we're having
trouble getting food and we're having
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:trouble getting, any kind of support
because everybody's having a rough time.
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:Dixie: Yeah.
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:Dezzie: And about the time
where I wanna give up and I just
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:wanna say, okay, you beat me.
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:I can't I'm done.
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:I'll start getting emails out of
the blue, like God's trying to
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:tell me, nah, you ain't done yet.
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:You're just upset today.
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:Put your big pants on and
let's go back to work.
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:And I'll start getting pictures
and updates and just amazing
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:stories on how great or funny
things that the dogs are doing.
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:And I get a lot of those.
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:Some of 'em are going back 15 years.
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:Dixie: Yeah.
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:So
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:that definitely is what
makes it worthwhile.
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:I love getting
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:Dezzie: it does
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:Dixie: the updates, or just out of the
blue, somebody will send you a photo and
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:be like, oh, look how so and so's doing.
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:And you see 'em living their best life
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:Dezzie: and it's the greatest
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:feeling.
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:Dixie: Yes,
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:it is.
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:It definitely
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:is.
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:Dezzie: Yeah.
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:, Okay.
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:Because, people are always asking, because
the previous two jobs I did before I
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:started in dogs, I made a lot of money..
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:And people are always asking
me, do you miss the money?
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:I was like, yes, I do.
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:I don't miss the work,
but I do miss the money.
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:And in this right now, in the last
couple years, the struggle because
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:our dog food, just dog food alone
costs me a thousand dollars a month.
719
:Just dog food is a
thousand dollars a month.
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:And you keep looking and it's like,
how am I gonna keep doing this?
721
:And people ask me all the time,
it's like, how do you afford it?
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:And I'm just like, I don't
know the grace of God.
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:I'm not sure.
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:Because
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:It's just always there.
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:Dixie: Yeah.
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:The one thing about rescue that a lot of
people don't realize is how much of your
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:own money you have to spend on rescue.
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:Everybody will start a rescue.
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:Oh yeah.
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:And they think all this money is just
gonna come pouring in on donations and
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:it's, oh no, your own money that you
are using to take care of these animals.
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:Dezzie: Absolutely.
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:And now, don't get me wrong,
I have some amazing helpers.
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:I've got a few that are dedicated
to helping probably get five
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:bags of dog food a month.
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:I need 30.
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:But I'm guaranteed because I know these
certain people that are doing these
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:donations, they are absolutely faithful
to it, and it's a bag of dog food.
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:And one of 'em, she told me, she was like,
it's two cups of coffee, for the month.
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:She gives up
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:two cups of coffee and she can buy
me a bag of dog food every month.
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:Which is amazing that people would
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:do that, so I do get
donations, don't get me wrong.
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:And I do get help.
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:There's somebody else here too
though, that I, wanna mention her
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:by name, she's been pretty amazing.
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:With getting people to donate and help.
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:Tonda.
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:Johnston and that woman is amazing.
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:We had, a medical issue.
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:And her people before the night
was over, it was taken care of, so
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:there are some that will stand up
when you need it, but there's just
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:so many right now asking for help.
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:How do you choose?
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:Because everybody needs help right now.
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:Dixie: Yeah, I understand that for sure.
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:Thank you, so much for taking
the time to speak with me.
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:I really appreciate it.
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:I enjoyed our conversation.
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:Dezzie: It was lovely talking to you, mam.
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:Great.
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:I'm so glad you called me and
thank you for thinking of me.
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:Dixie: That's all the time that
we have for today's episode.
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:Thank you for listening and
we hope you join us next week.
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:If you know somebody that loves animals
as much as I do, please send 'em our way.
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