00:00 Intro

00:06 Encouragement to Attend Church and Sit Closer

03:43 Discussion on Shepherds and Ezekiel 34

09:03 Judgment on Edomites in Ezekiel 35

10:30 New Covenant in Ezekiel 36

12:38 Understanding Old and New Covenants

19:38 Closing Prayer and Farewell

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Hey everybody.

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Welcome back to another edition

of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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And happy Sunday.

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Happy Sunday.

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Yep.

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And if you are on your way to church

and haven't gotten there yet, we're

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gonna ask you to do something that we

asked you to do, I think last week too.

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Yeah.

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Read your Bible.

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Yes, do that.

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Pray one Peter one, 14 through 16.

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Specifically drive to church.

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Drive to church.

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Bring your family.

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Don't leave them home.

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Your family.

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Don't forget the family.

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Yeah.

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Don't do that though bad.

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Are we a dog friendly church?

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Could we bring their dog?

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Nope.

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Nope.

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Do we do animal blessings?

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I've had lots of people ask the question.

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No, you haven't.

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People wanna know there's a

goldfish that's not doing so well.

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No, we don't do animal blessings.

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Okay.

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Are you going drag that

conversation into this right now?

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No, I'm not.

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No.

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All right, great.

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We'll leave it alone.

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People wanna know.

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People wanna know.

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Yeah.

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No, but we are gonna ask if you are one

of our ours and we trust that you are,

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if you're listening to this podcast,

that you would do us a favor of sitting

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a little bit closer than you normally do.

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In fact.

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A lot closer than you normally do.

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Find the closest that you can

get aside from sitting on stage.

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If you can't see Pastor PJ's,

wrinkles, you're not close enough.

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Yikes.

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You don't need to get that

close, but move on up and move in

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because that does us a huge favor.

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God is growing our church, which we love,

and we are doing the best that we can do

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in the facility that we've got right now.

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And we've got some room to grow still

in that facility, which is great.

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We can stay where we're at.

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We can continue to grow.

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We don't need to, make a

dramatic shift on anything.

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But we are filling up that room and

we're gonna be adding more chairs in the

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coming weeks too, to accommodate that.

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What we pray will be continued growth.

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And so what you can do for us is

move forward and move in and you

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might think, does that really matter?

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And the answer is it really does.

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And it.

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While the number of empty chairs may not

change in the room, the perception of the

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visitor walking into the room does change

in the sense that if you walk into a room

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and we've all been there before and you

look around at the only seats that are

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open are all the way down front, you're

gonna feel like, Hey man, there's not

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really any room for me in this place.

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There's seats there.

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Sure.

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But I don't wanna walk down there.

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I don't know if those are reserved.

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I don't know if, if somebody on

the worship team's gonna come

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down and sit in those seats.

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I don't really wanna walk in front

of all these people, I don't know,

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and go down there and sit there.

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Or maybe they're looking in the back

of the auditorium and there's two or

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three seats, but in, they're in the

middle of the row and they're gonna

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have to walk in front of seven people

that they don't know they've never met

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before to sit in those three seats.

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So if you can move in and move

up, that will really help.

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Make our place a, a

warm and inviting place.

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People tell us all the time how warm and

friendly y'all are, and we love that.

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This is another extension of that to just

change the location that you're sitting.

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Move up, move in.

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That'd be a huge help.

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Interesting that in the church

setting, the best seat in

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the house are the back seats.

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Back row Baptist at your home,

you'd be like, sit in the seat of

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honor in front of everybody, or

you could see everybody just fine.

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But in the church it's the opposite,

which is fascinating to me.

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But yes, I agree.

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That's the way that most people see it.

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It's helpful to have those seats in

the back for people that are coming

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later, and that's usually newer people.

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People don't like to show up on time

if it's a church that they're not

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familiar with, because honestly,

they're not necessarily trying

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to make connections with people.

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They're still feeling it out and

relationships just make things messier.

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Yeah.

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If I like you and I don't like your

church, do I come to your church?

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'cause I like you?

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I don't know.

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It's those kinds of things.

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So help us be helpful to them.

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Be gracious.

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Hosts and sit a little

closer to Pastor pj.

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I even think I might start

sitting on the stage.

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Okay.

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Behind you.

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Okay.

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And saying We don't receive that church.

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I could add colorful commentary.

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I could see that being very helpful

for people to pay attention more.

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I the Google Leaf during the sermon

might, I would ask questions.

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Clarifying.

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What did you just say?

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Did you mean to say it this way?

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Sound effects some people.

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Yeah.

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Sound effects could work.

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I have an air horn just

waiting to be used.

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Would that be on a good

point or a bad point?

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Would that be like a goal?

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It's ambidextrous.

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Okay.

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It could be either one.

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Alright.

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No, that'd be huge help for us, but yeah.

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Good.

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I'm glad to bring it then.

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No, not that.

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You guys moving up and

in not the air horn.

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Leave the air horn at home.

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Don't bring the air horn

to church on Sunday.

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Yeah.

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Hey, let's jump into our DVR.

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We are in Ezekiel 34, 35, and 36 today.

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Chapter 34 is similar to what

we talked about maybe yesterday.

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I can't remember the day before on.

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Israel's or Ezekiel rather, in his

role as the watchman of Israel, because

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in chapter 34, what God is gonna do

is he's gonna indict the shepherds

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of Israel for basically not doing

their job in caring for the people

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of Israel, spiritually speaking.

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And the shepherd's job was to

protect the sheep and to lead

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the sheep and to feed the sheep.

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And what these shepherds were

doing was, rather than protecting

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them, they were exposing them.

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And they were using

them for their own gain.

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They were getting fat

themselves off of the sheep.

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Instead of caring for these sheep.

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And so you think about the juxtaposition

of Christ who says in John 10 that he's

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the good shepherd and the good shepherd

lays down his life for the sheep.

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These are not good shepherds that

we find in Ezekiel chapter 34.

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The priest, the leaders, the spiritual

leaders of Israel, were not doing

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the job that God had called them to

do that they should have been doing.

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And God was indicting them

on that in chapter 34.

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And so they're gonna

be called for account.

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And again, the reason being is not

because the people were sinning, because

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they were bad shepherds, but rather

because they were not good shepherds.

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The people that were sinning,

that they were gonna be judged,

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were gonna be held accountable,

and these shepherds were gonna be

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held accountable for them as well.

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Just like we talked about

with Ezekiel as the watchman.

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By contrast, God would eventually, in

the millennial kingdom, provide the good

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shepherd, and that's gonna be Jesus.

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I think this is the

background of John Chapter 10.

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And a, a forward-looking prophecy

as well, not just a John Chapter

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10 in the first advent, but more

specifically to the second coming of

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Christ when he will be their shepherd

and reign and rule over them as both

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their priest and their king in that

fulfillment in the millennial kingdom.

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So when he says shepherds of Israel,

then do you think he's talking to a

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certain class of leader, leaders in

general, kings, prophets, priests,

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I guess Ezekiel's the prophet,

and maybe Jeremiah's in view here.

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Probably not though.

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Who is he talking to?

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I've always taken it as the spiritual

leaders, just because I think in the

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New Testament it's a term that conveys

spiritual oversight more than it does the.

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More political oversight.

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I think it, it could play both of

those roles, but I think it, it, I've

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always looked at it as from a spiritual

perspective, the priests more than

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I have the kings and governors and

rulers, but it could apply to both.

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Yeah, I think I'd be inclined

to agree with you there.

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And I suppose that the pertinent point

for us, for those of us who are shepherds,

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not everybody who's listening is going

to be one of those, but I feel this, I

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read Ezekiel 34 and I even referenced.

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Jeremiah 23 where he's has a little

bit of something like this in his

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first four verses in that chapter.

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This is such a heavy burden and God

cares deeply about his people to the

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point where if a shepherd isn't doing

his job, he's derelict in his duty.

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The true shepherd, the shepherd

himself, the great shepherd will

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do justice for his people and that

will mean cutting down the shepherds

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that are just fleecing the flock.

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Look out for them.

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Sadly, there are many, even within

the church, there are people that

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call themselves shepherds, but really

they're wolves in sheep's clothing.

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You would do well to know how to find them

and part of it is knowing your Bible well

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enough to look for the marks of faithful

leadership versus the unfaithful one.

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And ultimately what we're pointing to

here, as you said, is John chapter 10,

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every Good shepherd is just a reflection

and a shadow of the true shepherd.

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And that's the kind of person

that you should follow.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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There was the.

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X account, Portia, they're always

highlighting, we would say bad shepherds.

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And they had one just the other day.

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I think it was Saturday morning on this.

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Pastor, quote unquote, I use scare

courts around that, who had basically

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told his church, Hey we're gonna

welcome those in the L-G-B-T-Q

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community because even though the

Bible says and speaks out against

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these things I care less about what

the Bible says than I do about loving.

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The people that are

creating the image of God.

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What?

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Yeah.

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No lie.

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And they unbelievable.

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They have this, back and forth that

they do between the pastor and the

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congregation before every service.

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And the end of it is we will always love

the person in front of us more than the

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war in our laps or something like that.

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It's a false dichotomy.

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Yeah, totally.

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It.

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B, but it's one that sound that,

that preaches to a liberal world.

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A liberal audience.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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We should love people more than we should.

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Love the, bibliography.

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It's that accusation of

against us as in our camp.

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And that's, you're right, it's a false

dichotomy because the way that we shepherd

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and love people the best is by pointing

them to the word of God and calling them

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into into obedience to the word of God.

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In fact, we're gonna talk about that.

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Today.

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And the reason for that is because

that's what God desires and he desires

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that not because of some, he's waiting

for us to prove ourselves, but because

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he wants a relationship with us and

holiness is key to that relationship.

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And so yeah, that's been taken care of

for us at the cross, but it's also a.

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It's a dynamic relationship here

on Earth before we get to eternity

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where the more holy we are, the

closer we're gonna feel to the Lord.

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And as your shepherds, we want you to feel

that closeness to the Lord and the best

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thing that we can do for you, and that

is to say, this is what God's word says.

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Come and follow it.

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Come and do it.

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And we wanna walk with you in that

process and help you along in that.

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Amen to that.

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And one, one other final

thought here true shepherd does.

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Tell without apology what his

flock is supposed to do here.

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Here's what you should do according to

what God's word says, it doesn't mean

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they wield that with a heavy hand.

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We're gonna find out in one Peter

chapter five that the way a shepherd

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leads is critical, not just what

he says, but how he does it.

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And those two pieces together.

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Having a thick skin and tender

heart is what allows a pastor a

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shepherd to really do his job with

excellence and with Christ-likeness.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Chapter 35 then is about

the Edomites once more.

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And so we see the Edomites again here.

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Mount Sr was related to Edem and the

Edomites and the descendants of Esau.

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And so this is the judgment.

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We see that in chapter 35.

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That's the main gist of this here,

that MTEs are gonna be punished for

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gloating over Israel's downfall and

assuming that they would be able to

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take over their land, even though

it still belonged to Yahweh and

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even though Israel was in exile.

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This is a reminder for us in this chapter

that even today, even as chaotic as things

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are right now, the back and forth between

Israel and Palestine and everything

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else, that land ultimately is God's land.

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And he has a future for it.

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And nobody is going to lay claim to that

land that he's not gonna allow to do that.

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And ultimately he's gonna rid

everybody and set up the kingdom there.

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So the Edomites presume upon their place.

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And God is saying, Nope,

this isn't your place.

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And so judgment is gonna come

against Edem here in Chapter 35.

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I think Edem continues to play

this role of being an anti type

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or really a scarecrow of sorts.

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They represent.

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Israel's enemies and they just

happen to be the ones that

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actually are fulfilling this role.

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So I suppose one thing I would caution

you against is being overly literal

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in the way that you read Chapter 35

and just saying, oh, it's only edem.

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They're the real big issue here.

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They're not sure they are an issue, but

they are one issue among many others.

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It's really the nations that

set themselves against Israel.

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Simply the punching bag here that

God utilizes to say it's like this.

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You guys are acting in ways

and you're the stereotype that

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fits the general statement.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, for sure.

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Yeah, that's a good point.

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A chapter 36 is one of the more

well-known chapters in Ezekiel because

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we deal with new covenant language here.

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And so the beginning part of the chapter,

God is saying that he's gonna avenge the

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land, but really the people of Israel,

for those that are gloating, those that

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are celebrating their downfall, he's

gonna restore Israel out of concern

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for his name, verses 20 through 21.

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He's saying, this is not gonna be for you,

but this is for my name, for my glory.

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And then he gets into the new covenant

language here in the the verses.

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24 through 28 specifically.

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But his future restoration of

the people is gonna involve

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this new covenant language.

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And this is going to be the language

of the new heart and the new spirit,

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and the sprinkling with water for the

cleansing of sin, removing the heart

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of stone, giving the heart of flesh,

putting the spirit within him, all these

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things, walking in obedience, dwelling

in the land that I gave to the fathers.

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And you shall be my people,

and I will be your God.

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So remember, Jeremiah 31 is

the chapter Jeremiah 31 31.

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Begins it is the original introduction

in the new covenant language.

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This picks up on a lot of

those same themes and develops

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it a little bit more for us.

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And this is the background of so

much of what Jesus picks up on in

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the New Testament when he talks

about being the living water in other

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things like this and about sprinkling

with water for cleansing of sins.

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There's a lot here behind the scenes

in from Ezekiel 36 and the new covenant

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that Jesus is building upon as well.

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And even though we see this as

common, we've read this before.

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We exist under the new covenant.

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This is.

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This is huge.

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I can't overstate how massive this

prediction, this prophecy is because

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it points to something greater than

the current covenant giving you a

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new heart, new spirit within you.

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Jeremiah and Ezekiel are both

exilic, post exilic prophets.

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Jeremiah lives through that,

and so this is God saying this.

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Covenant appears to have failed.

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People went to the land, they took

over the land under Joshua, they

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lived under the judges, and now

everything really has not gone well.

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The kings failed, the people failed.

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They've been exiled, and yet

God is saying, I'm not done yet.

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You think this is the end.

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It's not the end.

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I'm going to restore you and I'm gonna

do something better than anything.

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The first covenant, the old covenant,

as we now know it could ever do.

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So this is huge.

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I hope you feel the weight of it

and also the joy of it because

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you're on the other side of this.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And by when you say the covenant that

failed, there we're, let's be clear, we're

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talking Mosaic, covenant, mosaic, right?

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Under the old covenant.

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Yes.

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Yeah, that's what I meant.

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Yeah.

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Because the Abrahamic covenant

is still in operation.

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Yes.

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Davidic Covenant still in operation.

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New Covenant really is there

to, to supplant the Mosaic

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Covenant predominantly.

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Would you say it's a helpful way

to think about the old Covenant?

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'cause we talked about the old Covenant

as one singular thing, and I guess it is.

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If you think of.

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The Abrahamic as being the bull

that carries the smaller bulls,

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like Russian nesting dolls.

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Would that be a good way to think of it?

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Or is it better to think of them as

several covenants under the old covenant?

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I guess I've always thought of them as

multiple covenants under the old Covenant.

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You've got your major ones.

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The no AIC Covenant is in there too.

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That one's usually not as massive,

although it's significant.

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Hey, God's not gonna

flood the world again.

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And here's the rainbow, and he's gonna

put that in the cloud as the sign of that.

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But mosaic's big because that's, Hey,

this is how we're gonna relate to one

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another and here's the sacrificial system

in, in the law and everything else.

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In fact, we're talking

about that today in church.

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Is the significance of what that was

foreshadowing and looking forward to?

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So I guess I've always just thought

about the big three covenants in the

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Old Testament, and that is the mosaic.

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The Abrahamic and the Davidic and the

Abrahamic and the Davidic continue today.

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The mosaic has been.

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Fulfilled in Christ and

supplanted by the new covenant.

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How would you say that the Mosaic covenant

and the Abrahamic covenant fit together?

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Because it seems like they

contradict at least superficially.

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Sure.

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The Abrahamic covenant is God

saying, I'm gonna do this to

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you regardless of what you do.

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Abraham was asleep when the

covenant was enacted and solidified.

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He does nothing.

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And yet God says, I'm gonna bless you

and yet down the line you have the mosaic

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covenant where Moses says, if you do this,

if you obey, then you'll have the land.

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See the blessing that was promised under

Abraham, you'll get to enjoy all the

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covenant blessings, but if you don't obey.

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I'm gonna exile you and you're gonna

eat your kids and all the other

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things that he talks about there.

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And that comes to the fore.

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It does.

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So how do the mosaic and

the Abrahamic covenant fit?

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Yeah.

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How are we best to understand those?

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I, my mind goes to what Paul says when

he says, not all Israel is true Israel.

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And then in Galatians he says is those who

are of faith, that are sons of Abraham.

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And so I, I think the

mosaic covenant was their.

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And given nationally to

the people of Israel.

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But it wasn't necessarily the

abiding covenant for the way that

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relationship was gonna work out.

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I see what you mean by, is it the

bull or the nesting doll, because

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the primary relationship was

always gonna be through faith, even

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with the mosaic covenant there.

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They're gonna be justified by faith,

and that's why Paul could say in

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Galatians three that God preached the

gospel beforehand him to, to Abraham.

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So the mosaic covenant was never about are

you gonna spend eternity with God or not?

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That was always gonna come down to faith.

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The Mosaic Covenant was, this is what

relationship with God looks like in this

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dispensation, and if you don't maintain

it, you may reveal that you don't have

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that relationship founded on faith.

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But that wasn't everybody.

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There were some people for

whom the Mosaic Covenant was.

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Was sufficient for them.

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They were following him.

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They were doing the things that

they had called them to do that,

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that faithful remnant in others.

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I think were effective in that,

but that wasn't changing the fact

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that they're standing with God.

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It was ultimately faith, which goes

back to the Abraham and Covenant.

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So when we say the Old Covenant, the Old

Testament, is it a misnomer then to say

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singular old covenant, old Testament?

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Would you say is a better

way to talk about it?

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Because we're saying here, and I think

I understand your point, Abrahamic

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Davidic, those are carrying forward

into the New Testament, right?

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And we expect those to be fully fulfilled

right at the millennial reign of Christ.

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What are we saying then, right

when we say Under the old covenant?

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Sometimes we'll use it

as a shorthand, right?

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What are we saying?

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I think we're talking Mosaic Covenant.

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Anytime we say old covenant singular.

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Yeah.

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We're saying primarily old

covenant mosaic covenants, right?

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That we have in mind.

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Okay.

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But the old covenant contains

many covenants or God.

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Obligate himself to his people.

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Among them are the Mosaic, the Abrahamic,

the Davidic, those are the big three.

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You have the Adamic or the Covenant

of Works, sometimes it's called.

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The Icic.

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You mentioned there's

Levitical, the Levitical law.

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Is that a covenant, isn't

that part of the mosaic?

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Would you say the Levitical

is connected to that?

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Yeah I guess I'm thinking when

he says of the, of Levi, I

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won't make a covenant with you.

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Okay.

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In your descendants.

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That's a good one.

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Yeah.

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It seems like this gets really confusing.

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It does.

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It does.

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Real fast.

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How does it people, how

do we keep that straight?

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I think, again, remembering the big three

are the ones that are gonna have the most

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bearing on us as Christians in knowing

the mosaic covenant fulfilled in Christ

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no longer under the Mosaic covenant.

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The Abrahamic Covenant operative, this

is the gospel from the very beginning.

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This is the overarching picture, the

viic covenant points to the future

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reign of Christ here on Earth.

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That's important for us

as dispensationalist to

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say, Hey, that's not been.

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Satisfied yet.

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And the Davidic covenant's significant

because the descendant of Christ,

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descendant of David is gonna be Jesus.

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That he is of the line of David.

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So those three, I think are really big for

us to keep in mind when the storm clouds

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come like they did Friday night you can

remember the no NOIC covenant with comfort

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there and say, okay, the fountains aren't

gonna break loose and flood the earth.

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But I think those three are really

important for us to remember.

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As it pertains to us as believers, I think

for Israel, man, the Abrahamic Covenant,

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I think was their bread and butter.

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The no Mosaic covenant was significant

because it was a dual covenant.

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They entered into it as well.

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But the Abrahamic covenant,

that's the lande and blessing.

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That's everything for them.

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It's all about the land.

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And it still is all about the land

today, which is why there's still

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the combat the fighting that happens

between Israel and Palestine.

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If there wasn't the Abraham a Covenant,

then Israel would've moved on and

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gone somewhere else perhaps, and it

wouldn't have been that big of a deal.

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But because God promised lands, seed

and blessing there in that land, I think

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that's still one that they're looking at

going, this is the biggest deal right now.

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And that one is covenant by grace.

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That's the one that God promised

to them that was unilateral.

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That's the technical

word that you could use.

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Yes.

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Unilateral.

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The mosaic covenant is bilateral.

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Yes.

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That goes both ways.

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And that's the one that was broken.

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That's what caused their exile.

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The Davidic Covenant is also unilateral

as I understand it, because God

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promises to David two Samuel seven,

I'm gonna make you a sure house.

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I'm gonna, I'm going to establish

your kingdom and rulership, not only

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here and now, but really forever.

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So the only, no that's not true.

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The primary bilateral covenant under the

Old Covenant, the Old Testament is the

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mosaic one, and that's the one that's.

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That's being broken here, and

that's the one that's causing all

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these reverberating effects, right?

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To the people of Israel.

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And so Ezekiel speaks to

them and says, it's not over.

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The mosaic Covenant looks like it's

crumbling, but God's relationship

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with you is not finalized.

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He's going to promise you a new

heart, which will allow you to obey.

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That's been the whole problem

here, is that you couldn't

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obey the mosaic covenant.

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Yeah.

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And that really is the point.

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The law was a Tudor Paul will

say later on in Galatians.

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Three.

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Yeah.

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And this is part of the problem is that we

can never obey no matter how hard we try.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Okay.

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That's as clear as mud.

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Everyone's totally got it.

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Totally clear.

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They nailed it.

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No other questions.

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Are to be asked or nor will there ever

be asks ever we've ever definitively

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answered every potentiality.

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And now everybody's dispensationalist too.

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That's right.

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Even if they don't listen to this podcast,

they woke up today, they're like, oh man.

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Something changed.

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I believe that's your, nevermind.

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Alright.

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Alright, let's pray and we'll

be done with this episode.

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God we freely admit that the Bible

is complex in some of these things.

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It's simple in the things that we

need to know and learn and understand

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when it comes to our standing with

you and who you are and who Jesus

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is, and we praise you for that.

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But there's other complexities here that

we do our best to try to understand,

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and some of these things are the secret

things that belong to you and you alone.

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But help us to.

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Able to discern that and not be lazy.

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Not to just say we'll never understand it.

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So let's throw our hands up and not even

try, but to be good students and try to

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understand as much as we can and by your

spirit, Lord, teach us, instruct us, lead

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us so that we can gain more understanding

of these things and appreciate more of

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who you are and how you operate today,

and how you will continue to operate.

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Into the future.

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So we wanna be faithful Lord, to what

you've laid out for us in scripture.

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Help us do that well, we

pray in Jesus' name, amen.

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Keep reading your Bibles.

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Tune in again tomorrow for another

edition of the Daily Bible Podcast.

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Bye folks.

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Bye.

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Bernard: Well, thank you for

listening to another episode of

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the Daily Bible Podcast, folks!

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PJ: Yeah.

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I would agree with

everything that you said