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025: Finding Your It Factor: From Network Marketing to Personal Branding with Baylee
Episode 255th November 2024 • Goldie Links Permanent Jewelry Podcast • Jennifer Thyrion
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In this episode, we chat with Baylee, a powerhouse entrepreneur who went from personal training in Wyoming to building a successful business in network marketing and social media branding. Baylee shares her journey from working with clinical-grade collagen to launching her own brand, and how a supportive circle of friends and family helped her pursue her vision. Her passion led her to the creation of the Elevation Collective, a community and coaching space designed for strong, like-minded women ready to level up.

Baylee opens up about her journey to finding her “it factor,” explaining how knowing and embodying what makes you unique can be a game changer. From faceless marketing to embracing your true identity, Baylee emphasizes the importance of showing up authentically. For those fearful of putting themselves out there, she encourages them to get clear on what makes them stand out and lean into it.

The episode is packed with practical advice on pivoting, creating multiple income streams, and launching a personal brand that aligns with your strengths, passions, and permanent jewelry business. Whether you’re thinking about expanding in a new direction or just need that extra push to be true to yourself, Baylee's insights will guide you.

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Elevation Collective - https://www.instagram.com/elevate_theagency/

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Jen Thyrion: Hey there, I'm Jen Therrien and I'm so glad you're here. I'm a former nine to fiver that dove into entrepreneurship eight years ago with zero business experience. I'm a wife, mama of two young girls, boutique owner, jewelry designer, and now the proud owner and coach leading GoldieLynx Permanent Jewelry.

I have a passion to empower fellow business space. This podcast is made to equip you with everything you need to succeed from actionable marketing steps to digging deep on your mindset. I know firsthand the heart, hard work, and let's be real. Oh, that makes up this amazing journey. You want to know what has enabled me to shine the brightest, coaching plus Community here at Goldie Links.

We share openly educate and lift each other up. Expect to get links with fellow PJ owners that will do just that. Sprinkle plenty of fun along the way competition isn't old school thought and connection is the way. It ready to feel inspired. Welcome to the Goalie links podcast. Hey there.

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Stay at home moms that create on their own time between raising their children, serving as a self care creative outlet and supporting their families. Your items come with signage on how these supplies are made along with gemstone property info, as each gemstone has a special meaning. If you want to level up your business with handmade supplies, not made by a machine, but made by hand with love, then check it out at goldilynxsupplies.

com. Now onto the show. I met Bailey at a woman's networking group. She actually purchased an anklet for me, but we got to chatting and learned that she was in direct sales. I started following her on Instagram and was totally intrigued. So it did not surprise me to learn that earlier this year, she launched a mastermind and coaching for social media and branding.

We chat all about MLMs and how she left her previous company and joined another that's about to launch the MLM culture and misconceptions. And all about branding and social media. So many good things. I hope you love this chat. I'm sitting here with, what is your name? Bailey Stewart. We actually met at a networking event, I guess.

Right. And at the time I want to get into this because I'm actually excited to get to know her a little bit better, but we were chatting. And at the time she was with a network marketing company, right? Networking. Okay, let's just take it away. How about you first? Tell me without me blabbering on and trying to put pieces all together.

Tell me a little bit about you and kind of like where, you know, just a little bit about you, like your history. What would you say?

Bailey Stewart: Okay, well, I grew up in Wyoming and I went to school and got my bachelors, did the whole thing in social work. And once we moved here to Colorado, it was very, I realized that wasn't for me.

So then I actually got my personal training certification. And that's how like this whole wellness lifestyle thing kind of came to fruition. And from there, I just like really started sharing on social media. And I grew my platform to a decent following, I mean back then it was like an okay following.

And um, I just kind of built this community. And then I would eventually like get reached out to about brand deals and stuff. And that's when I started kind of learning how to social sell. And my grandma actually, we like did this like cleanse together one time. And to get a discount you would like sign up.

Sure. To like sell it or whatever. Yeah. And so that's how I kind of dove into the network marketing space, but I never did anything with it. Okay. And then just like through meeting people, connections, I got introduced to my, now one of my best friends who introduced me to my old network marketing company and is still my business partner to this day.

Like we do so many things together and that's kind of how my whole network marketing career started. That's amazing. It's crazy. So I still was doing personal training for a while. Yes. And then I was doing network marketing on the side during COVID that kind of switched and network marketing became my sole source of income and like tripled what I was making in the gym.

And I was like, okay. Yes. And so that kind of,

Jen Thyrion: that's so cool. So to put it in perspective, so how long were you personal training? Before you dove into network marketing, like what was it? What's the time on all this?

Bailey Stewart: I'd say probably like a year before I dove in. Like I said, when I was younger is when me and my grandma did that whole thing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Part of that. Sure. But I would say, yeah, I was doing it for maybe a year and then I really dove into the network marketing aspect. And. Kind of took off. Yes.

Jen Thyrion: So what made you choose? And again, we don't have to like say names, but it was like, it was what kind of product was it that you did have?

Yes.

Bailey Stewart: It was a clinical collagen. Okay. Okay.

Jen Thyrion: So what made you choose that network marketing?

Bailey Stewart: Well, I would say, and if you guys are network marketers listening to this, you probably understand this. You don't really ever choose your first company. Okay. Like, you really don't. Yeah. It kind of falls into, cause you know, none of us grow up, like, unless our parents were in it, but none of us grow up and are like, we would love to be a network marketer.

Yes. You know? Yes. But, so I would say that one kind of fell in my lap cause my, my best, my now best friend was like, okay, this thing, like someone that she trusted, brought it to her. And then me and my husband kind of took a look at it and he was like, yeah, numbers look good. He's like my financial advisor.

Of course. There's always like one in the

Jen Thyrion: relationship, right?

Bailey Stewart: Yeah. So he's like, yeah, numbers look good. And then as I like, Got more knowledge on the company and stuff like that. I really honed in on the college because they had a hundred different books. Okay, because the science and i'm like such a nerd when it comes to that.

Yes. I like research things probably too much Yeah, i've just seen the science. I was like, oh, yes, this is my thing. Okay

Jen Thyrion: yeah, I mean I have to say because like I guess we can talk about a couple we're gonna talk about network marketing because Obviously, that's how it led to What you do now as well, right?

With social and branding. And we're going to get into that. But when it comes to network marketing, a lot of people get a bad taste in their mouth. And what do you have to say about that?

Bailey Stewart: I think that it's all about the community that you join. First of all, because that can be a huge aspect because there are people out there who definitely do it the wrong way.

I've experienced it and I'm like, so committed to not being that person. Yes. But also it comes to the false, like, expectations, like, you know, people are like trying to be salespeople and network marketers are not salespeople. They're not. We're here to like build relationships and talk about something that we genuinely love and use.

Yeah. Are we selling something? Yes. We're making income. Yes. Like it's a business. Yes. But I think that in order to like get someone to sign up with you to do the business, people kind of like sugarcoat and they're like, Oh my God, you can make like 10, 000 in two seconds. And then people like join in.

They're like, well, that didn't happen. And so then it seems like. Everyone's a liar scam or yes. Yeah. Yes.

Jen Thyrion: In the end, I feel like it's like with any small business, because even like we can, we can talk about permanent jewelry too. And like the profit margin, how much money you can make. Right. But it doesn't mean everyone's going to do that depending on your dedication, your passion, if it's not really something you love to do.

I'm sorry to say it's not going to go anywhere. No. So it's not for everybody. So say you go to this place. I just remember back in the day going to those home parties. Yes. Oh my God. The Mary Kay. And like, and just being like, well, you get stars in your eyes. Like, oh my God. Like you could just do these like fun little candle parties or whatever.

But honestly, in the end, I think even there was a couple of times back in the day, you know, that I would sign up for like two seconds and realize that like candles are not my jam. Like it's not something I'm passionate about. So like, so in the end too, don't you feel like. With anything, you have to be passionate about it.

You have to want to use the product

Bailey Stewart: with anything. And I always tell people too, I'm like network marketing or any business, like a gym membership, signing up for the gym membership and signing your life away is not going to get you fit. Like you got to show up, you got to do the work, same thing. So honestly, like I probably have lost out on signing up a lot of people because I'm just so honest.

I'm like, listen, it's not happening overnight. It's hard. There's going to be bad days. Yes, but I tell them that up front because I'd rather miss out on that than sign up all these people with these false like ideas of what it's going to be. Yes, because then it puts, that's what puts bad taste in people's mouth.

Okay,

Jen Thyrion: so you're no longer part of that network marketing company, I guess I should say, right? So what led you to make that decision to exit, I guess, or were, you know, Yeah. Do you want to share a little bit about that or? Yeah. Okay.

Bailey Stewart: Yeah. So it was honestly like a very long string of events of all very small things.

There was never like a big blow up. I didn't leave on bad terms. I had nothing bad to say about the company. Sure. But there was just like a lot of string of small, small, small things. Yes. So I would say like there was a lot of changes on the corporate level, which I didn't love. Um, Yeah. Lots of just like chaos kind of, and the industry itself, I mean, the economy itself, the world itself is in chaos, let's be real.

Sure. But the industry specifically is in very big chaos. If you are anyone who follows remotely anyone in the network marketing space, people are transitioning left and right, and it's crazy.

Jen Thyrion: So why

Bailey Stewart: is that

Jen Thyrion: happening? I've

Bailey Stewart: noticed

Jen Thyrion: that too.

Bailey Stewart: Why is that happening, do you think? Well, first of all, I would say that people just grow.

Yeah. And there's There was a very big surge of people joining network marketing, however many years ago. And I think those people are honestly just in their transition phase to be honest. In a network marketer's career, it's very rare for them to ever just do one company and stay there forever. Yeah.

It's very rare. And so the transition is normal, first of all. Yeah. But I would say that there was a big surge and probably it's those people's time. But I would also say that there's a lot of companies who are fearful right now. And so a lot of companies are maybe doing that whole affiliate thing where they're just going to the affiliate model.

People are losing their incomes. And there's a lot of that going on. And then also, if we're going to be real, there's just a lot of shiny object syndrome and people just kind of bounce around and that

Jen Thyrion: happens sometimes. That's true. I know. And I think that's why it looks too, from the outside, if someone's like, Oh, now this girl's like, She is on to another network marketing.

Yeah, doing another thing. So like, like you said, it's hard because you can't stereotype or like, because some people are like that, where they'll be like, Oh, this looks bright and shiny like you said, and it's really not their jam, and they really don't know who they are or what they really love, so they're just gonna jump around and jump around, right?

Okay. So, but you have, so basically going to what you do now, because you also have your own business. Okay. So I want to get into that because your success in network marketing, because you did have some, you had to have some success. I feel like, right. It was like your main source of income. Like you said, it tripled what you're bringing in for personal training.

What do you think led to that success? Like, why did you have that

Bailey Stewart: success? Oh gosh, I think it was probably a few different things. First of all, my best friend who I mentioned to you, um, she. Has helped me so much, like just leaps and bounds, like, so she's a really big reason, in my opinion, of why I was, where I was in the network marketing industry.

Yeah. I think she was like, such a big help, um, just like in the vision, because it can get hard, like business period, it doesn't even have to be network marketing. Yes. So that was really helpful. I also come from a family of entrepreneurs. And so I was never meant to be an employee. Yes. I really wasn't. I do not work well with others.

Let's just say that.

Jen Thyrion: Join the club.

Bailey Stewart: Yeah. I guess I work well with others. I just don't work well with the boss.

Jen Thyrion: No,

Bailey Stewart: yeah. Yeah. I

Jen Thyrion: was gonna say, like, same. Like, I don't want to be told what to do. But yeah, I love working with people. Yes. Yes.

Bailey Stewart: Yes. So I think that was part of it too, and just like seeing my family, like I saw them work and tell and worked.

Yeah. And so I never had that like, Oh, when I get to this place, I'll be happier. Sure. I'll have made it. Yeah. I'm just like, well, we're just always working, you know? Yeah, yeah. And so then it just kind of happened. Yeah. And because I put in the effort. And then I would also say the support of my husband was really big because having his income also helped with me being able to go full time.

Sure. Before that income was maybe fully replaced from personal training. Sure. Sure. And allowed me to get to the point where it did triple. Yes. And so that was a big help too. But I also think that, you know, it's like this determination thing and this work ethic thing. And sometimes I think there's a lot in the field that can be taught, but there's a lot in entrepreneurship that can't be taught.

Oh yeah. So I think that's just part of it too. I think it's in my

Jen Thyrion: blood. Well, I mean, the thing we can lead into, because I feel like with you teaching now about like, and having a mastermind and whatnot about like social media branding, right? Obviously that was a big part in your. Success, right? Because you were consistent.

I mean, like, when I started following you, I mean, I was always seeing things, you know, it wasn't like you're always sharing and like sharing value and like how this was helping you or, you know, whatnot, when you were in part of the network marketing, you know, that you were in. So it was like, people are like, again, that like, know and trust factor.

So let's get into why you so when did you also launch your own business and what kind of. What made you do that, I guess? Like, what led to that?

Bailey Stewart: So I had this, like, thing on my mind that I wanted to have, like, a collective for so long, and I had no idea what it meant. Like, I just was like, I want a group of, like, cool women, just like, I want to have a space for them, you know?

Didn't, I honestly was always, I told all my friends, like, I don't really want to be a coach. Like, I don't want to do that. And then it did happen. But yeah, I just always had this on my heart, like, that I wanted to, like, have this space for just, like, badass women, because, like, I just love talking to, like, other badass women.

Yeah. Yeah. And, um, so I was like, how can I, like, turn this into a business? I don't know. And I stewed on it for, like, ever. And then I started following this girl named Ayla, who I was like, God, she is, like, the kind of girl that I would want to, like, work with. You know? And so I just kept following her, like, binged her content.

I literally would, like, go to her page every day. I'm like, what did she post today? Like, obsessed with her. And I ended up hiring her as actually my business coach. Oh my gosh, that's amazing. Yes. And so I brought it to her and I was, like, literally on December 31st. So I had done, like, a little course from her, like a, you know, 300, 500 course.

Sure. And I loved it. And so literally on December 31st, I was, like, hi. I need to be in your mastermind. Like I have to do this. This is my idea. This is my business idea. I can't bring it to fruition. I've tried so long. So I hired someone and she honestly helped so much like She basically I just laid it out all out on the table and she was like, here's how we can curate this Yes, and it just started to come together.

So beautifully. It felt so aligned and I was like, you know what? It's a collective. It's somewhere where I can like have this space, but also I can provide value. And then also very lastly, but still important, I can monetize it. Yeah,

Jen Thyrion: for sure.

Bailey Stewart: That's amazing. So you launched it when? So I officially launched the Mastermind in April.

That was my first round. Okay. Um, I launched Elevation Collective as a whole as my coaching business on January 8th. Okay. Okay. Wow. That's

Jen Thyrion: amazing. So those are something separate. So the coaching is something is like one-on-one ish or, okay.

Bailey Stewart: So that's one. Yeah. I have a couple different ways. So I'll have like self-study courses where you can buy it and then you just go move on and Sure.

Do it yourself. Mm-Hmm. . And then I also have one-on-one coaching. Okay. I do intensivess where it's like four weeks you and me, we just fricking go hard. Yeah. And then I have the Mastermind, which is 12 week group coaching. Okay. And every so often I'm coming out with different things. I'll have like $30 master classes that you can do for 60 minutes or live, stuff like that.

So the Mastermind elevated society. Is a branch of Elevation Collective. That's so cool. Yeah.

Jen Thyrion: That's awesome. So where, how did you connect with people to be a part of that? Because obviously, you know, you were probably, I don't say you were talking to a different audience before, but it wasn't something you did, right?

So how do you feel like you primed your audience for that to kind of,

Bailey Stewart: I honestly, so I'm going to say half of it felt very natural and half of it was very hard because they were, everyone was primed to come to my page for wellness, collagen, that type of stuff. But at the same time, I was very focused on differentiating myself with a network marketing space.

Yeah. Because I was doing so much research on branding and I was taking courses and I was educating myself because I knew that I wanted to help people with that. And so I was doing it myself and I was testing things on my own page. Yeah. And everyone was seeing a significant increase in the quality of my content.

Interesting. And so that just kind of Open doors. They're like, what are you doing with this? I'm like, Oh, actually I have a course now, you know, yeah Um, so that kind of happened naturally But then some of the other stuff, I had to be really, really diligent about it and Mm-Hmm, . It's honestly, it was a couple months of just like purely building authority, like creating content that was like, hi, this is why you should listen to me.

Yes, yes. Here's why. I know what I'm, what I know. You know, and that was the biggest part. And then the rest of it kind of flowed because they just saw. Me embodying what I was selling. Well,

Jen Thyrion: yeah. And I think that because, because if anyone's listening who wants to try and like do something else besides like permanent jewelry, if you're obviously listening to this podcast, it's like, what if it seems so opposite of like, or something different of what you're doing, but if you're already sharing a lot of yourself and, You know, just even your expertise in the permanent jewelry space, I feel like you're already building trust and like people are liking you, you know, just by like vibing with you and be like, Hey, I like this girl, you know, so I feel like that has a lot to do with that too.

It does.

Bailey Stewart: And I tell people that even in the network marketing industry, permanent jewelry, whatever it is. Whatever you're going to do, if you can align it with who you are to your core, It's going to, it'll have success. It just might take everyone a minute to catch on. Yes. But like, I tell people, because so many people are guilty of like, becoming their network marketing business or becoming just permanent jewelry or whatever.

And I'm like, you're the brand. Yeah, the value. Yes. And so as long as you can, like, if you don't know anything about health and wellness and you're eating Big Macs every day, you probably shouldn't align yourself with

Jen Thyrion: a wellness company. Exactly. And that's all it's about, because I mean, I can't say that enough because when we talk about also feeling saturated, okay, yes, like you think, oh, So like other people, there's plenty of people that teach on branding and social media.

Oh my God. Oh my God. Hello. I don't know. There's plenty of people in this like network marketing thing that you might have been looking into. There's plenty of people doing permanent jewelry, but what makes you different, right? And there's always, I truly believe there's room for all of us because again, if every single person in Castle Rock had to come to me for permanent jewelry, I couldn't handle that.

Right. But there's many people that vibe with me or vibe with another permanent jeweler and that's okay. Right. As long as you're like. You know, we all are, again, what we are to our core. There's different, like, niches. Like, you're teaching differently. You're speaking to a person that understands or likes you versus someone else.

Bailey Stewart: Exactly. Exactly. And people hear people differently, too. I could say the exact same thing as you, but if someone doesn't like me or see value in what I'm bringing, what they do to you, they're gonna be like, I remember when she said that. I don't even remember that Bailey girl even mentioning that, you

Jen Thyrion: know, it's so funny because even just the way we speak, like I'm sure you've experienced this.

If you listen to a podcast, you're like, there's nothing wrong with the person. I just don't even like listening to her. Yes. Like her voice is drowning guarantee. There's people out there that feel that way about me and that's okay. Cause I understand it, you know? Um, but it's like, or just the way I say things, it might not resonate with you versus someone else.

So again, like just never to think like, oh, there's two, there's not enough room for me, I think, right? Yeah, I speak

Bailey Stewart: on that. I have an entire module actually, um, for my personal private clients. Yes. And we literally talk so long, they're probably honestly sick of it by the point we're done with it about like differentiating yourself and your space.

It's because I always tell people, I'm like, you're not being seen. Yes. You, it's not because. It's too saturated. It's because you just aren't doing your job at standing out.

Jen Thyrion: Yeah, because there is

Bailey Stewart: something that makes everything every single person special

Jen Thyrion: every single person special Even if we were talking about permanent jewelry like what aspect of permanent jewelry is it for you that stands out or like something that you're using that someone else isn't or even just your vibe or like the way you dress could even be like if you like to dress like in wild outfits And go to your pop ups.

Like that can be something you talk about. Like, what's your outfit of the day? You know what I mean? Like there's so many amazing things and like, but it's so hard because when you're, it's like that whole quote, I heard it once and I loved it. It was like, when you're inside the jar, you can't see the label.

It's like when you're, you're so close to yourself. So it's almost like asking maybe a best friend to like, what makes, what it stands out about me, right? Cause that's what you want to share and what's going to make you different. Um, because even network marketing, like you said, you focused on the college and this This company in particular had so many items, but that's something you zeroed in on, whereas someone else could have zeroed in on another aspect.

And they look like a totally different social from what they share about the company. Right? Exactly. So I have friends that do the same and they have belonged to companies and they're like, I love the shakes in this. And like, that's what I use. I'm not going to talk about the other things because I don't use it.

Right? Exactly. So I love that. So what do you feel like is, I mean, we touched on already, but what is the most important thing when it comes to branding? Why is branding so important?

Bailey Stewart: Branding? To me, it's for what I call power of the pivot. This is why having a brand is so important. And I am like a walking testament to this over the past few months.

If you have a personal brand that is so deeply rooted in who you are, you could literally sell freaking trash bags on the corner and someone would purchase that because of who you are, right? And so that's, and I call it the Kardashian effect. Because like, Kim Kardashian. Like, she could sell, like, I'm trying to think, like, tampons.

She literally, I would buy her tampons. I would buy her tampons. Oh my god, I just thought of like, what is a random bag? Yeah, no, literally. I tell people this all the time. She could literally brand stupid pink trash bags. They could even be trash quality, right? Oh, totally. Horrible. Oh my god, that's

Jen Thyrion: actually a great idea.

Put, like, funny, like, things on the bag. Yeah. Something like, something she, I don't know.

Bailey Stewart: But she could. Yeah. And then she'd sell them on the corner. She could sell them down on Colfax. Oh, totally. And someone would sell her out. Colfax. Because of Kim. You know, and so that's what brand does for you, you know, I tell all my clients, I'm like, I want you to have the Kim K effect like I want you to have that because if you can build a community and so I'm like a walking embodiment of that because I just totally transitioned and though it may have taken time.

Yes. Everyone is still like, okay, I get it. It might not be for me now, but I still like respect that. Right. Yes. And so now I can, I can, I have power of the pivot, you know, because of the established solidified brand.

Jen Thyrion: It's so true. And it kind of speaks to what pops up in my head. Cause I actually talked about this in my Facebook group yesterday.

I did a live cause I'm doing a chain launch with all these chains for permanent jewelers. I make, we got to talking about like. Community over competition that gets brought up a lot because again, permanent jewelry is very localized to so it's very service based. It's not like, you know, not the world or the world wide web.

Right. And you have, but having said that, like what that means. Right. And I think that people's perspective, it's like community of competition is, I mean, okay, sure. You can just copy me and I'm cool with it. Right. Right. But it means like cheering other people on not being like wanting their success just as much as knowing that we, there's enough for us.

But it's also about like what I. Like, love to talk about too, of course, is like just this, it's like, this is about helping you with my vision of community over competition, which is like this whole, the point of this podcast essentially is to help you become more of you. Yes. Okay. So it's not about like copying me and my success.

It's making you successful by being, you finding out who you are and what your business is to you and what, like, what you stand for and what's your style. And like, you know what I mean? Because I'm all into like these handmade chains I make in gemstones. I'm huge into gemstones and birthstones. And I love quotes like people might, that might not be your jam.

Yeah, that's okay. You know what I mean? Like you're, you, you might be a stainless steel girl and that's, that's your, that's your vibe, you know? And so it's just, it's all about. You know, and it's helping you become you. It's not about you copying me.

Bailey Stewart: I've been literally zeroing in on this for so long over the past couple of weeks, like so hard because same thing, like when you, especially with you, like having your like franchises essentially, right?

Like you're training these people to. Do it as well as you do it, but maybe in a different way. Sure. Same thing with the network marketing space. We have these systems that are duplicatable. And what ends up happening is sometimes people try to duplicate the identity instead of duplicating the system.

And it's like, no, like, don't duplicate me. Duplicate what I give you. And

Jen Thyrion: then, Put your own flavor. Right. So that, that, that's the thing. It's like you're teaching here. You have the success, but it's like, why teach teaching what you know? It looks like it's like, Oh, but people are going to like somehow like soak up success that you can't have it anymore.

Right? That's not true. No, you can share these things. But again, someone is learning, it's going to put their own spin on it. And, and again, if they're going to copy or they're trying to like, like you said, capture the identity or like clone it really in the end, how far are they going to go with success or how far?

Because they can't. They can't be someone else for too long. No, you know, and it's just not, it's not going to lead. There was going to be one step behind you because they're always like trying to see what you're doing versus like embodying that. But it's a different thing with inspiration versus copying.

Right. Cause like, even you said you were addicted to watching that one girls like, and it wasn't like, you're like, I want to be her. It was just like, you were inspired by like what she was doing. And it's like trying to do that in your own way, right? Yeah. So, and we

Bailey Stewart: talk about that, even her and I, you know, with her being my coach, we talk about all the time.

She's always like, gosh, you remind me so much of me when I was you, you know, but you're not me. But like, there's so many similarities. And so being able to learn from her is so powerful because then I can be like, okay, she did it this way. How can I make that my own, but still, like, use, like, her knowledge, right?

And it's the same thing here. Like, I'm here, I will, I'm an open book. I always tell people, I'm like, to be honest, if you scroll my entire Instagram and you, like, piece things together, you probably could find out. Enough to not even ever have to pay me. Yeah, truly. So true. And that's the goal, right? Yes, but the thing is is that putting it together and the whole cohesive aspect and implementation and execution is what people pay you for Right exactly And so i'm just always like, you know Take what I do, but find out how you can like put your own spin on it because yes, you'll make it better Yes, and I always tell people i'm like, you know There was a time when I was back in my early network marketing days trying to clone a person and trying to be like someone who I wasn't.

And you know, I am a little rough around the edges. I'm loud. I'm wild. And I'm obnoxious sometimes. Like, that's just me. And I'm very bold. Yep. And I just tell it how it is. Yeah. And for a while, I was like trying to be this like very like proper, quiet. Yeah. It wasn't working out. It wasn't working out. And so I'm like, you know, I attracted all these people into my business.

And then I turned around two years later and I was like, how the hell are these people even here? Yeah. These are not aligned with me. I do not want to work with these people. I do not belong here. Yeah. Because I was literally showing up as not like, not my authentic self. Hey, busy entrepreneur.

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Right. Because I've been through it too. Yeah. We're like being a part of the boutique row with a merchant market, which I talk about this all the time. When I first moved in there, like I was trying to like, see what sort of sold and just sell that, right? It was like, I had no idea who I was. I was like, I just moved here from Vegas and people were, it was that back in like when the vintage style was definitely in, it was like, you know, the wood signs and all like this, like, and that was very different for me moving from Vegas.

I'm like, Ooh, this is cool and different. Like that vintage like farmhouse look. Yeah. It's so not me. You know what I mean? But here I'm like, before you knew it, my whole shop looked like, you know, Straight out of, I don't even know, it was all wood and like different, you know, it doesn't, it's totally not who I am.

Yeah. So it took a minute for me to like step into who I am. And then that's when, first of all, I felt better too, because then it wasn't like always scurrying to be like, what do I still know? What do I still know? Because I didn't know who I was. Right. Or like what my, yeah, what my brand was essentially.

Right. Yeah. Actually. Yeah. Your brand is you, I guess. You know, I think when people think of branding, they think of colors. They do. No, they do. They think of colors and logo. Like font and colors. Yes. That's what they think

Bailey Stewart: about. It is. And it's a part of

Jen Thyrion: it.

Bailey Stewart: I get real, like, that's the fun part, right? It's the fun part, yeah.

But, no, I know, there's so much more to it. But people do think that they're like, oh, the aesthetics. It definitely plays a huge part. Yeah. But there's also like, how you're speaking. How you're showing up. Consistency of character. Yes. There's just so many different aspects to it. And you can also dive into like strategy behind that and value add and offers.

Like there's just so much more. Yes. So much more. I know. But that is the fun part.

Jen Thyrion: That is the fun part. I have to say. Yes. Yes. And then those go along with it because when you see A logo or like even checking someone's Instagram, you could buy two seconds. You can kind of feel the feels, you know, if it's dark and moody, if it's very bright, if it's, you know, just show if they're showing their face a lot, you can kind of get an impression so quick, so

Bailey Stewart: quick, even when, you know, and I think it's really important that the two, like the back end, you know how there's that, that meme and it's like.

The tip of the iceberg and then the all the iceberg underneath the water. And it's like, you see what's actually happening. Yes, that's how branding is because you have to have what's underneath the water that people don't see, but that they feel to align with what people are visually seeing. Because if they come to your mind, for example, they come to my page.

It's dark and moody and, you know, edgy. Yeah. And then if I'm in my. Captions like, everybody can win, and this is so happy, and da da da, right? That's different, but instead, I'm still saying that same thing, everyone can win. Sure, sure. But like, I'm also like, hey, get your shit together. Let's figure out, like, stop getting in your own way.

Like, I'm a little bit more of like a tough love type of coach, and I kind of keep it real in that aspect. Yes. So, like, you have to have those two things aligned, too, because, and vice versa, if your entire brand is pretty and bright and floral, and then you're, like, trying to give some tough love and the cash is, I don't think it's

Jen Thyrion: gonna align.

Yeah, it's so true. So. Okay, so when did you exit the past networking? company. So that was June, June of last year, this year. Oh, this year. Sorry. Oh my gosh. Okay. So you launched just left. Oh, you just left. Okay. So you launched that way before, well, six months before kind of, right? Yes. Before leaving. Okay. And like, and you, do you want to reveal that you're going to be joining another company?

Yeah. Okay. Okay. Do you want to talk about that? I don't know what you want to say about, um,

Bailey Stewart: yeah, we can,

Jen Thyrion: what's next.

Bailey Stewart: Yeah. So yeah, I ended up leaving and honestly, The launch of Elevation Collective and my own stuff and the reaction that I got to that is another reason that pushed me out of the last company too.

People in the network marketing industry can be very tunnel vision and it's like, just not conducive. Like you can't do anything else? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's not conducive. Yeah. To like, The longevity of like your business, right? Yeah. That was part of the reason that pushed me out. And then I, so I was, I was kind of on my way out regardless.

And then a new opportunity fell into my lap to help launch a brand new company to the market. And it's with a mentor that I very much respect that had mentored me and my best friend who I always mention. She and I were mentored by him for years in our previous company, and then she also was going. And so I was like, okay, like, I'm doing it.

Wherever you go, I go. Yeah. And also like, just like the potential of it with like it being so blue ocean, like nothing, there's never, Spend anything like it in the market really. It's not one of, 'cause you know, in the network marketing industry, there's a lot of companies that do a lot of things really freaking well.

Yeah. Like that last company, they crush it at collagen. Yeah. There's like, like Arbon, they crush it with their protein shakes. Yeah. There's certain companies that just crush at certain things. Totally. But then there's also a lot of companies that are like, same thing, different font, right? Mm-Hmm . Yeah. And it's like, okay, that's like a filler product.

Like, and so that was like the thing I wanted to stay away from. I'm like, I'm not trying to just go to another network marketing company. I honestly was gonna be done with the industry. Yes. So when this was brought to me and also with my background and being such a science nerd, I was like, okay, this is badass.

Like I think I had to be part of this. Yeah. Husband was excited about it. Was just saying something. He's like very calm and collected. So the fact that he was excited, I was like, I was like, okay, so, so yeah, we're in pre enrollment right now. We are getting everyone like in and going and then we launch products.

It's in the middle ish end ish of October. I noticed the way you talked

Jen Thyrion: about it, I want to try it like ASAP. Exciting. So how do you feel about having multiple streams, I guess you could say, because you have the experience of like always when you're in network marketing, it seems like you're always doing something else too.

I guess personal training, maybe you switched over a little bit, but like, how do you, like, what is your view on that? Like if you, you know, like say someone wanted to experiment with network marketing and they were doing a head of permanent jewelry business. Like, how do you, what would you say to that?

Yeah.

Bailey Stewart: I would say that I absolutely recommend it. I think that everyone can benefit from the network marketing industry. Yeah. But I do think that it matters who you join and what company you join. It really does. And that's sad to say, but it's just true. But I think that multiple streams of income is huge.

Like you should never have all your eggs in one basket, especially in network marketing, because I absolutely love the industry. But, and it is your own business, but it's also not your business. Fully 100 percent in your own control and so anything your your eggs should never be in a basket that can be taken.

Yeah, like ever So I think that that's a big thing I'm always an advocate for multiple streams of income to just because Some of them require more effort than others some of them are more residual than others And yeah, you know if you're only doing things where you can trade time for dollars. Mm hmm, then you're capping yourself Yeah, there's only so many hours in

Jen Thyrion: a day

Bailey Stewart: exactly

Jen Thyrion: So, why are you a fan of network marketing then like what about it is appealing to you?

Bailey Stewart: My favorite thing about it is that the most average, ordinary person can have success. Yeah. That's my biggest thing because, you know, a lot of people want to do the influencer thing on social media. Mm hmm. But in today's day, it's very hard to grow on Instagram, first of all. Yes. But second of all, you have to have this like big extravagant following for these brands to pay you anything that would allow it to be a full time income.

Right. And then I also like it because it does offer like people who do other things or have other commitments or have homes that they need to keep in order. They're a mom, they have other businesses. Yeah. It allows them to do something that doesn't need all of their time all the time. And, you know, it's something where what I love about it is it's something you can really put a ton of effort.

You know, they say an object in motion stays in motion. Yeah. If you can really put exponential force and momentum up front at the beginning, it will pay you for years and years and years for that work. Yeah. And it's really powerful. It's awesome.

Jen Thyrion: So that's my favorite thing. Was it hard to let go of that network because you already had established for a while?

Was it hard to let go of that and like say goodbye to like that income you were taking in?

Bailey Stewart: Yeah. Yeah. It was really, really hard. It was also really hard because I knew I was hoping this wouldn't happen, but I knew probably that it was going to break some relationships. Yeah. So that was really, really sad to see.

It was honestly sad how it played out, but I know that everything happens for a reason. Yeah. But yeah, it was very hard. It was a decision we sat on for months. Really? Yeah. Yeah. It's

Jen Thyrion: a good decision though. You know, when you know, you know.

Bailey Stewart: Yeah. Yeah. And I was kind of at this place too, where I was like, I'm not going to do better here.

Like where I'm at is where I'm at. So I can either be like, I'm comfortable with this income and I don't want to lose it. So I'm just going to like nest egg it. Or I can give it up in hopes that something bigger comes along. So I always, like, refer back to that for the women of faith that are listening.

Yes. I always refer back to, like, that picture of, like, God, and he's, like, holding the, the teddy, like, a big teddy bear behind his back. Yeah. And the little girl's, like, grasping onto that super tiny one because she doesn't want to let go of it. Yeah. But he had something so much bigger behind his back for her, you know?

And so that's kind of why I kept, every day I was telling my husband, I'm like, there's something bigger, I know it, like, I can't have this small mind and be scared to lose what I have. So, and it's paid off. I mean, it's, we aren't even launched yet. And my team is so much bigger than it was. That's amazing.

In five years. Wow. Really? Already? Yeah. Stop. Why do you

Jen Thyrion: think that is?

Bailey Stewart: Well, first of all, I would say because it's different and people are looking for different. Yeah. I'd also say, to be honest, it's free enrollment right now. And so there's going to be a lot of people that fall off. Okay. So that's also part of it.

Okay. But I also think that it's because this is such a big transition period. Yeah. And so many people are in that space where their income is just here or even maybe dipping. Yes. And so people are just open and, and I also think. Network marketing is a lot less taboo now. A lot more people are open to it, and the way that this company is presented and with them being ground floor, those don't come around often, and I just think it's a perfect storm.

Jen Thyrion: I think some, you know, maybe it's just also, like, as we are all getting older, the newer generation, right? There is a different view of it, right? I think because, like, I have to say, like, you know, speaking back to, like, maybe my parents view of it. It's like, it's like the pyramid scheme. Yes. Okay. Like pyramid scheme, which did exist.

It did. I mean, and I don't know if it still does. I don't know. I mean, it's illegal now. But I mean,

Bailey Stewart: there's still companies that teeter the line. Where

Jen Thyrion: is the one that like was really crazy where they was like, God, okay, I'm gonna, I'm butchering because I can't say it was like some kind of club and they would, I don't even know.

It was like this crazy pyramid scheme. And that was it. I close. Netflix show about it. Oh, the LuLaRoe, but no, they're still out there. I think that. Yeah. They're still out there. Yeah. Yeah. My mom used to buy from them. Really? I know. With the funky leggings. Yeah. So, I mean, honestly, I probably have a pair. So, I think I probably do too.

That's okay. No, but I don't think like, I'm not sure if they're really classified as a pyramid scheme, but there was just one like legit where they're just like basically stealing your money. It was like, cause what is the, the, what is the scheme behind a pyramid? It was like, why, why was it? Yeah.

Bailey Stewart: So it's, I don't know that all the ins and outs, but I do know that it has to do.

So the FTC, Federal Trade Commission, they're who like monitors that stuff. Okay. And it has to do with like the number of distributors or like people selling whatever that company calls their people. Okay. Distributors versus customers. Because if it's a model where you're just like, you're rewarded for signing up anybody and any and everybody and not even helping them like even begin to have a successful business.

Yeah. Yeah. Then, you know, you're just enrolling all these people who are bringing in nothing, paying a ton to be a part of the business, and then it's like, okay, for what? So that, I think, plays into it a lot, the customer to distributor ratio, and the way commissions are paid, I would assume, but that's really all I know about.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jen Thyrion: So I think it is like an old school kind of thought, but there, I mean, there's so many, Network marketing that had been around for so long, like Mary Kay's still rolling. I know. Herbalife, you know, they've been around forever. I know, you still see pink Cadillacs everywhere and I'm like, they're kind of cute.

I know, right? I love it. That's the thing, it's like, obviously they are, there are very good products. It's like, that's why I think people also assume too, is that these are things that are just like, Oh, like a way for people to make money, but it's not actually good products. Right. So, I think that comes into play too, some people's view, but.

Bailey Stewart: It does, yeah. And also, I don't. I think that anything, like, it just comes down to education and understanding. Yes. You know? Yep. And it's like, you're not a bad person for thinking this about this, right? No, no. You just don't understand what it could be and maybe you were burned. Maybe you did have a bad experience.

I get it. Yes. I get it. And

Jen Thyrion: that's, and that, and no, it's hard because like say you did go to, you know, or talk to someone who, you know, gave you all these expectations that were kind of unreasonable. So, of course, you're going to move on and say, Oh, my God, like, they totally just screw you. And, you know, you're going to have that opinion, right?

So, like, just even talking like kind of joining this in a permanent jury, it's like, you know, same. Someone walks in up to little chains and say, Oh, my God, that's 70 something dollars for that little chain. What a scam. You know what I mean? Right. But if you don't educate them on what it is, what it's made out of, why?

Then it's like then if they don't understand it, of course, they're going to think. So, yeah, it's a lot of misunderstanding out there and, you know, assuming so, yeah. And also, of course, your chains are 70. These have

Bailey Stewart: been on forever. Good. I'm like, they never come off. I know. I love them. I love your stack.

Thanks. That's awesome. I need to, I honestly need to get more, but yeah, yeah, it's like everything just comes down to educating. Yes. And I always tell people, I'm like, you know, we're not in the, we're not in the industry of convincing people. We're here to educate them on what it is and let them make their own decision based on that.

You know? Oh, for sure. I mean, same thing with permanent jewelry. It's all like, we all sit there, we ask the price, we look at the different types of chains and then we're like, okay, yes or no, we're going to spend that. Exactly. I mean, to

Jen Thyrion: some, some people there, there's, they won't even blink an eye. And some people were like, I would never like, why I have this little chain on me for 70, they don't understand the value or it's not a priority to them.

And that's okay. You're like, you know what I mean? So, but yeah, that's amazing. Well, do you want to share what kind of product it

Bailey Stewart: is or that? Okay. Like, did you share that a little bit? Okay. Totally. So yeah, the new company it is on a platform based on peptides. Okay. So every product is going to be a peptide, but we're going to have lots of different types.

So I'm really excited for that. The first few that we're dropping have to do with ones like a fat loss one. It's kind of like an Ozempic dupe. Okay. Um, a lot of people are on Ozempic. Eh. eats away at a lot of people's muscles. Some have really bad side effects. So all of these peptides are actually plant derived.

They're bioactive precision peptides. And so they've been formulated with AI technology. It's wild.

Jen Thyrion: That kind of goes over my head

Bailey Stewart: for sure. No, same. I've like on the science calls always like taking so many notes. I'm like, what is going on? I'm going to Google

Jen Thyrion: that word. Like

Bailey Stewart: words to look up the definition.

Right. But so it's really, really cool. Like the AI technology just makes them work so well. Efficiently and effectively. So yeah, they're all based on peptides and they are plant derived, super affordable in terms of like a lot of people are injecting these synthetic peptides. Okay. They're a lot more affordable compared to those.

Okay. You don't have to inject them. They're ingestible. So just a lot more accessible for the normal day to day person. Okay. So yeah, I'm just really, really excited about it. And as you know, like I said, I geek out over the science and stuff. And so I've actually been on peptides and been researching peptides for almost a year.

Okay. And they've changed my life. I'm on some for hormone balancing and totally changed my life. I know friends who have been on, there's so many different types of peptides and they're expensive. Like very expensive and injecting yourself is not fun. Yes. So yeah, I'm really excited for these. They also are going to be so clean.

They have like a never list. Okay. Of um, ingredients that they'll never have. Okay. In the products and it just makes me so happy. Like no seed oils, no thickeners, no, you know, colors. Yeah. Sweeteners. Yes. Artificials.

Jen Thyrion: I love that. Okay, cool. I, I'm, I don't know if anyone else is just, I'm just interested in it, so that's why I wanted to ask.

Yeah. But I want to transition a little bit back to social and talk about your mastermind, talk about branding, because what do you feel like people struggle with the most when it comes to social media?

Bailey Stewart: I would say consistency in terms of just social media itself, I would say the consistency of posting.

Yes. I think that's the biggest thing. Um, and it sucks because that's one of the most important. I know it really is. Yeah. In terms of branding and like. Social in terms of that, I would say identity, you know, like it's loud on social media. Yeah. And if you do not like switch that, that switch in your brain of like consumer to creator, then it can be really hard to like get lost in the sauce of social media.

Yes. And you kind of accidentally morph into all these different. people. Yes. Because you're, you, you're inundated. And so finding your identity and really nailing down that identity and then acting on that identity, I think is the hardest part. But once you get that and you like align it with something that's like natural and feels good.

You are like off to the races. I know.

Jen Thyrion: I think that's when it's fire. You know what I mean? And it does take some time to get there, but once you find that, and also too, like not only that, but it's momentum. Cause once you find that it feels good and then it feels so, it's so natural that you're not wondering like, what do I post today?

Or like, you know, or kind of almost getting over those fears. I think that's part of it too. Yes. People are fearful to show up. They are. I mean, I mean, you're showing your face all the time on social. I'm not saying you have to, what would you say to somebody who doesn't want to show their face like that much?

Well,

Bailey Stewart: I

Jen Thyrion: would say

Bailey Stewart: eight months ago, 10 months ago, maybe I would've said, You need to show your face. Okay. But now faceless marketing is becoming like a thing. Yeah. And I think if you can do it the right way. Sure. Then that's great. If you can differentiate yourself, that's great. Yeah. Because I don't know about you, but all the faceless accounts that I've seen look the exact same.

It is hard. So. I think if you're going to do the faceless marketing, it's absolutely possible. But I would also say it depends on your industry.

Jen Thyrion: Yeah.

Bailey Stewart: I was going to say that too. Some of them you

Jen Thyrion: kind of have to show your face. I know I was going to say, people are coming to see you to do permanent jewelry.

They kind of want to know who they're going to see. Yes. Like if they go to an account, there's all these chains and hands and nothing, but nothing, you're not, they're not seeing your face at all. Yes. It's kind of like, Kind of scary. You're like, who am I going to see?

Bailey Stewart: No, 100%. Yeah.

Jen Thyrion: So yeah. Okay. So you have the one on one coaching and then you do have masterminds at like 12 weeks, right?

And do you have start days for those? That kind of thing? Um, yes.

Bailey Stewart: So, well, right now we're doing, um, open and closed masterminds. So I open the doors, I do an early bird price, um, and then I, I hard launched everyone else. And then I close it for 12 weeks, but after this second cohort, I think I'm actually going to be opening it indefinitely so that people can join as they please, as long as there's seats available.

Okay. So I cap it at, um, like 12. Okay. Ish.

Jen Thyrion: So do you just go through, like, that process with every single individual person of, like, again, branding, like, there's kind of steps that you go along the way?

Bailey Stewart: Yeah, there's some that are. So if they join a specific program, I have a curriculum. The mastermind currently has a curriculum, but as I open it up and people join at different rates, sure.

That'll look a little different. Okay. I do have a curriculum for some things. And then if they, if they come one on one, I'm like, okay, what do you need? You know, especially if it's like a four week intensive, I want the four weeks I have again, like stuff that I want to make sure But I am also like, what do you need?

Cause Um, and so I, um, have it completely catered to what they need that day.

Jen Thyrion: Do you feel like more of your, I guess, customers are like network marketing or do you feel like they're all across the board when it comes to like what niche they're in?

Bailey Stewart: Honestly, like it started out a lot of network marketers, which makes sense, right?

Yeah. Yeah. But. Now it is so, so wide. Yeah. So wide. I have this one girl who like her and her husband have all these different businesses and we're looking at how to streamline their socials for all of them. So cool. I've got a couple aesthetic injectors. I've got a personal trainer. I have a realtor all over.

That's amazing. Yeah.

Jen Thyrion: Awesome. Anything else you want to share about social or branding that you feel like would just give someone a little bit of like inspiration motivation for their own social media?

Bailey Stewart: Uh, I would just say that figure out your like it factor and really play on that. I think that's the biggest thing.

Emily Ford, you should follow her. I'm obsessed with her and she talks about it factor. That's But I always tell people, I'm like, whatever people like wrote on your report card when you were little, like, step into that. You know, like, oh, if she talks too much or whatever, whatever it might be. Clearly, that was probably what was written on mine.

I know, I'm like, same. But you know, like, or whatever it was where people were like, like an ex boyfriend, if they were like, you're too much because of whatever. Yeah. Step into that, like step into what makes you weird and different. Because that is ultimately what's going to be like, the reason that someone else doesn't like you is the reason that someone only wants to work with you.

I know, and it's so funny

Jen Thyrion: because I think that we just see, that's why I suggest that too. I went through a couple of different, whether it be masterminds or classes where they had you do that. They had you ask their friends, like, what's Three words you would use to describe me or like say or share your favorite memory of me or something like that says about you because it's hard for and then usually that's what people love about us that we kind of feel like, Oh, that's cringy, right?

I mean, I could say the same about me, but I've definitely I've definitely learned to embrace that about myself because I think there was a time where I'm like, Oh, like, I wish I was more. Quiet and more like all the things you're saying, you know, I'm like, I'm just not, you know, I'm definitely, I got a tinge of sarcasm and I like to joke around and that's just who I am.

And that's okay. That's okay. Um, that's make, makes me who I am. I am going to talk to, uh, one of the girls I met at PJX and she, I would love her on the podcast. She has a permanent jewelry business and I love her voice. Like, her voice is the cutest and most amazing voice and it was so funny because I complimented her.

I wear voice memoing and she's like, Oh my God, it's what I'm always so self conscious about. And of course you are because that's what sets her apart. I feel like when you hear her, you know who she is. I love, I'm like, you need to talk more on your social because people are just gonna just love you for it.

Like, you know? Yeah. I don't know. Exactly. It's those things. You're probably annoyed with yourself. That's your selling point. That's your selling point. Yep. Exactly right. It's so funny. Yeah. All right. Well, thank you for being here today. Where can we find you? Thank you. On social media.

Bailey Stewart: Um, so my handle is Baylee Stewart underscore B A Y L E E, Stewart.

And yeah, that's on Facebook, Instagram. And tiktok. Oh my gosh. How's tiktok? Honestly, I use it as my creative outlet. Like I did not, it's not branded. You guys actually maybe don't go to

Jen Thyrion: much. I feel like it is branded, like it's very random is what I hear. I keep going back and forth, but I talk about tiktok cause I'm like, should I or should I not?

Bailey Stewart: There's definitely a strategy to it. Um, I haven't spent enough time to like dive into it a ton, but, um, I'm so like, Trying to add so much value on my Instagram TikTok's where I go to like do the stupid dances and trends and funny stuff. Yes, for sure. And talk about, I talk about wellness a lot on there.

I'm going to start incorporating my wellness stuff back into my Instagram though because I miss it. I love it so much. And yes. I know so much about it too. I just feel like, why not share it? Well, yeah, of course. So anyways, yeah. I love it. Okay. Thank you for being

Jen Thyrion: here today. Thank you. Well, how do you feel?

I hope you found value in today's episode and you walk away feeling inspired. I would love to hear from you. Let's link up. You can find me on Instagram at goldielinkssociety. You can find out more about our permanent jewelry membership at goldielinksociety. com. Our handmade permanent jewelry supplies of connectors, chain, and more at goldielinksupplies.

com. Okay, I will see you next time. Have a golden day.

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