Enter the Morocco most travelers never see. Where insider access awakens connection and every moment transforms you from within.

In this episode of Travel That Touches Your Soul, we open a doorway into a Morocco guided not by checklists or crowds, but by relationship, trust, and lived experience. Host Karen Cleveland is joined by Siham Lahmine, founder of Morocco Travel Organizer, whose work is rooted in authentic connection and deep cultural respect.

This conversation reveals what becomes possible when travel is shaped by listening rather than rushing. From farm to cave cooking experiences and personalized perfume creation, to tea ceremonies inside family homes and storytelling through food in Fes, Siham shares how true insider access transforms both traveler and host. This is a journey into Morocco’s heart. Human to human. Soul to soul.

Host Bio

Karen Cleveland is the creator and host of Travel That Touches Your Soul. She is a safari host, spiritual teacher, and animal communicator devoted to helping people reconnect with what matters most through meaningful travel. Her work centers on connection with animals, land, culture, and inner truth. Karen believes travel is one of life’s great teachers when approached with presence and respect.

Guest Bio

Siham Lahmine is the founder of Morocco Travel Organizer and a respected leader in high end, deeply customized travel in Morocco. With a Bachelor of Arts in English Studies from Sidi Mohammed Ben Abdullah University in Fes, Siham combines academic insight with lived cultural wisdom. Her itineraries go far beyond luxury. They are designed as life changing experiences rooted in Morocco’s food, traditions, landscapes, and people.

Known for her profound knowledge of Moroccan cuisine, Siham was among the first in the Fes region to offer farm to table cooking classes inside private homes, including her signature farm to cave experience with mint tea served underground. Her work supports families and communities directly, especially women who have never worked in tourism before. Through volunteering, mentorship, and advocacy, Siham is deeply committed to women’s empowerment and cultural preservation. Her vision is clear. Travel as a bridge between cultures and a mirror for self discovery.

Episode Topics and Timestamps

• Entering the Morocco most travelers never see. Why insider access matters (00:00)

• Designing travel through listening and personalization (02:00)

• Tea ceremonies inside family homes and cultural meaning (03:00)

• Supporting women and families through ethical tourism (06:30)

• Food as storytelling. Fes cuisine and regional differences (10:30)

• Spices, honey, and traditional healing wisdom (13:00)

• Morocco’s natural diversity. Desert, mountains, beaches (17:00)

• Practical travel guidance for first time visitors (22:00)

• Why connection is what travelers remember most (16:00)

• How to plan a journey with Morocco Travel Organizer (26:00)

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Where the Journey Continues

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I welcome you to enter the Morocco

that most travelers never see.

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A place where insider access

awakens the connection and every

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moment transforms you from within.

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Hello to all my listeners

and watchers out there.

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Thank you for being here.

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I have a little bit of a disclaimer

about this upcoming episode.

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The content is fantastic.

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However, my sound a little messed up.

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That's my fault.

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I apologize.

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I didn't know it until

long after it was recorded.

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There's actually two episodes like this.

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If you just stick with it so you can get

the good content out of it, all the rest

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of the episodes will be better, I promise.

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Thank you for being here.

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Thank you for listening.

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Thank you for watching.

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This is travel that touches

your soul podcast and video

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channel where we bring you.

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People and places around the world to help

you connect with something greater than

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yourself and fulfill your heart's desires.

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I'm Karen Cleveland, and

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today's guest, we have Siam founder of.

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Morocco travel organizer she talks

about a farm to cave experience, a

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farm to cave experience, not a farm

to table, farm to cave and make your

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own personalized perfumes, drumming

workshops, , Fez food tour, storytelling.

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So I'm really looking forward

to talking to Siham today.

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Let me just tell you a little

bit more about her first.

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So she is the founder of Morocco, travel

organizer, that's the name of the company.

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She likes making unique travel

experiences that connect deeply with

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the cultural richness of Morocco.

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She has a Bachelor of Arts in

English studies from, , cd, Mohammad,

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Ben Abdullah University in Fez.

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Hopefully it got that close to right and,

She became a travel expert in Morocco.

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In the Morocco Travel Organization.

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Siham main goal with business is to create

itineraries that are more than just trips.

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They are life-changing

experiences that meet.

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Go beyond the expectations of

the travelers in Morocco who are

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looking for luxury and privacy.

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And that's one of the reasons I really

love having her here today welcome Siham.

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So great to have you

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here.

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Oh, thank you so much Karen.

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And you have summarized

what I've done beautifully.

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Like you have touched base on a

lot of things, so thank you so much

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for this beautiful presentation.

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Ah, yes, yes, you're welcome.

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Why don't we start with an experience

you or one of your guests have had , tell

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me about it, like describe it to us so

we can get a feel for what's going on.

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I'll try not to interrupt too

much, but I probably will.

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You're welcome to interrupt

as much as possible.

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So basically, basically like just to

share a deep experience, and this is from

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the traveler, like eyes in that sense.

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Deep experience doesn't

mean to be complicated.

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Deep experience.

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It means connecting.

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And when I'm talking about connecting,

I mean connecting the travelers to like

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the country culture roots and people.

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So basically like I always tend to

listen to my travelers needs, and it

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doesn't mean that the same activity

will apply to everyone or will

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give the same feeling to everyone.

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So the moment I'm hearing as an

example from my travelers' words as.

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Soulful something deep, slow moments

connection that actually like resonates

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with me, especially like from women,

that resonates for with me, that I need

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to take them to what's behind the doors.

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So that means an invitation

to somebody's else home and

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having a tea ceremony together.

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And by the, just doing the tea

ceremony, it means something special

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like they're sitting, having tea.

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Tea is time to gossip, like to talk

and also at the same time, like do Hana

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and Hannah could be something that,

it's so simple, but at the same time.

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Travelers thing because when you are

doing it in the streets, you are not

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sure what kind of HANA you are getting.

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But when you are doing it inside

the family home, then you see the

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materials, you see the ingredients,

you know that everything is natural.

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And just Hannah is a form that

we express joy, happiness.

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So when the woman traveler is like

hearing the stories of what's behind

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the Hannah, what's behind the tea, and

how they are like communicating with

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the family, understanding the life norms

that create a sort of a form of a deep

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experience from their point of view.

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Mm-hmm.

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I had other travelers who have come,

like as an example, native travelers.

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Who have a complete different approach,

like this male here, like reach out to

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me and he said, look, I'm all into solar

energy, so what will you do for me?

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I wanna do something in Morocco like that.

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So I've called the solar energy

like project here in Morocco.

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Wow.

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But they were unfortunately

not open to the public.

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They have closed.

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So I've tried to be like

more creative and dig deeper.

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There is something about me that I

don't give up, so I've called like

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their office and said to them, Hey,

where are you based in all of Morocco?

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And where are your offices?

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Then I've managed to reach the office

in Robert and I've discussed with him

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the possibility for him to visit and

hear the presentation of the solar

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project and how it's work and it's

actually worked out beautifully.

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He went there and the moment he got out

of the room, he gave me a call directly

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at 11:00 AM I still remember like even

the time that day, so he gave me a

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call and he said, I cannot thank you

enough for making this working for me.

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That's something that touch him deeply.

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So tell me about having tea with a family.

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Are these your family?

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How did you come by these

locations, for that , what it's

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great about Morocco is that we are

a community that know each other.

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So as an example, like when I want

to start something, I always ask my

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neighbors, my families, my friends, okay.

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Do you know a family that is

gonna be open to do this activity?

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I go to them and I pay them a visit

personally, and then I speak through them

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about what's needed and what's expected.

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Like I share with them that

sometimes travelers would like

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to take pictures with you.

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Will you be okay with that?

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So at least I know the answer before.

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I mean these small details matter,

so there won't be any like confusion

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or, oh, we weren't sure about that.

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This is gonna take place this way.

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So I basically take them into that

journey with me before the traveler visit.

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Then I do with them an activity

as a mockup, like so they can

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see how things are working.

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Okay.

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And then if they feel comfortable,

then I bring the travelers their way.

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And the moment I bring their travelers

their way, sometimes I do a follow up

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and it's important for me to do follow up

because Are you comfortable doing this?

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Like what is your family opinion?

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Yeah, like the family is not happy or

something is breaking off in between.

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I don't want like to be just like

known later on, out of a sudden.

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But I mean, most of the time

I've never had a family that

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let me down, which is great.

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Really?

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Everybody was happy.

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Yeah, everybody was happy with

the work and like the effect of it

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because the main thing is that we

need the families to feel the value

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and the traveler to feel the value.

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So it's a win-win from both parties

and like I've got families who are

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proud, women who are proud because when

I select, I just don't select anyone.

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I select even women who have never

worked in the tourism industry.

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Not for anything be but for something.

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I want them to see the effect of tourism

into their life and how it's gonna be po.

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How it's at is actually a positive impact.

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Not a negative impact.

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So when I'm sitting with them, I'm

saying to them, I'm bringing their,

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like their, the travel your way,

their, the first question is, how are

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we going to communicate with them?

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Like mm-hmm.

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Like there is a lot.

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Like, it's excitement, it's

fear, it's, that's, yeah.

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So what's the answer

to that communication.

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I'm, I'm actually there.

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I'm translating there.

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Okay.

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I host personally and like I tend

to host personally at least the

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first like month and then later on

have someone else like to take over.

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So I know the family like knows by then.

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How to deal with the activity

and be confident to do it.

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Oh, or without me.

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Yeah.

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So this is always like the steps.

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So I'm telling them, don't worry.

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Like I'll be there facilitating

and then like I'll be there

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if you have any questions.

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Uh, if you make any mistake,

don't be intimidated.

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Mistakes happen.

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We are human being and travelers

are not there to judge you.

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They are just like appreciating the

fact that you open the doors for them.

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And this is in fact like the facts.

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I got some who were trying to port

the teeth, then spill it, and then

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they said, oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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And we said, no, no, no, it's

not, it's not a big deal.

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It's okay.

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It's, it's not something that, it's

like huge or massive because basically

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the locals are looking at you.

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This is from the local point of view.

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How are you pouring the tea?

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And they are judging you.

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Travelers don't do that.

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And this is the impact that I want to show

to the family that travelers don't see you

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as local see you when they are at home.

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What do you think?

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There are mistakes.

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They are not at all.

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That's so true.

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, , , we never know it's a mistake.

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We think it would be part

of the ritual sometimes.

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, And not that I wanna focus only on

tea, but I do have another question.

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Is there a tea time or is there a

particular reason to take tea or

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is it just like a morning coffee

like we drink in the United States?

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How, how is tea in Morocco?

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So tea in Morocco between the

locals doesn't have any time.

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I'll be sitting right now.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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And I'm gonna have a glass of tea,

but I'm not gonna use the word cup

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because we're having our tea in glasses.

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Oh, that's how we have tea.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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And we have different types of glass.

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We have the glass, like a sort of

glass that it have the grape design.

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That's what we use in our home.

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And we have like a different

type of glass of tea that we

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use only for special guests.

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So that's with like yellow

design, like colors in the bottom.

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Those are the fanciest one.

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So what the family drink at home

is not the same like tea glasses

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that we serve to our guests.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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But when we're doing this activity as

an activity, because travelers have like

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certain times of doing other things, like

monuments will be closed at a certain time

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or as an example, these features that we

consider, we do the activity of the T by

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5:00 PM plus basically after like the full

day being in the Medina and in the silk.

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And before your dinner time.

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Okay.

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So it works perfectly during

that time, but between the locals

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still doesn't have any time.

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Okay, great.

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Thank you for that how

about the cooking classes?

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Are these professional chefs that

do these, is this in the home too?

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Like a family would be

cooking, for their family?

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I would say, depending on the

traveler, basically what I'm

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voicing for is like supporting

families and communities, right?

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So the main thing that I offer is

cooking classes in family homes.

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Okay.

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However, now I'm receiving a request

that I wanna be with this chef.

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That's something that we can do,

but it's oddly when it's happening.

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Most of the travelers are

after the taste of the homes.

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Because they're already

eating at restaurants.

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It could be five stars at everywhere.

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So access is there, but like the

limited access is how to go to

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a family home and eat with them

and not just any family home.

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Our Morocco is quite diverse.

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It's not, it's one country, but it's

one tradition from another while you

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are moving from one city to another.

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So when you are coming to fast, we wanna

like take you to a real fest family.

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That means that you are trying

the fancy taste or taste of fest.

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When you are going to Marrakesh,

I'm not gonna take you to a

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affect family in Marrakesh.

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I'm gonna take you to AMIA family

or AIA because she's a woman,

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that's how I'm gonna call her.

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So I'm gonna take you to AMIA to

cook with her and learn Marrakesh

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food and how the Moria is seeing

food from her own perspective.

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We have different spices, different

ways of using it, like different

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ways of cooking, even dishes.

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Our signature dishes are quite diverse.

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So we want the guests like to

feel that they are immersed with

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the family at that city like that

it's originally from that city.

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Mm-hmm.

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And are there particular spices

that are used in one area of

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the country and not others?

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Or is all of Morocco kind

of using the same spices?

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What?

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What are the very common spices you use?

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Yeah.

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Well, I would say spices are accessible

everywhere in Morocco, so it doesn't mean

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H City has a limit, like type of spices.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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But we have certain food that

goes with certain spices.

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Mm-hmm.

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This is like signature dishes

that I was talking about.

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But if we're talking about the general

ones, I would choose turmeric, ginger.

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Like black pepper, of course, salt,

sweet paprika, cumin, all of these.

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And we have the blend

of more than 45 spices.

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Wow.

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That you can make

according to what you want.

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So you sit with like the spice man and

he's blending some spices, and if you want

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something else, then you will ask him,

oh, please add me some cinnamon into that.

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I wanna see the effect of that.

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Then he will add cinnamon and

then give you your own blend.

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And are the spices used

for flavor or for health?

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Or both?

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Uh, we both like flavors of course.

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Like yeah.

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I mean, we cannot eat

our food without spices.

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Right?

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Right.

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That's something that is typical.

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But in terms like of health

beneficial, our pharmacy like

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is either spices or honey.

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This is our natural pharmacy.

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So when we are sick, and I'm talking

about my mom's generation, my generation,

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maybe this newest generation is

different because they are focusing

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on pills and things like that.

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But I mean, when we're talking

about the norms and what we

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learned from our grandmothers.

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We learned that cumin is

good for stomach uhhuh.

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We learned that ginger

is good for your cold.

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We learned that turmeric is great.

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As an example for something that is, let's

say maybe cancer in your body or something

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like that, we learned that certain honeys

are healing us from a certain points of

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view, so we know exactly what to take

in order to heal our bodies and ourself.

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Yeah, isn't that great to be in touch

with that and I think a lot of people.

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Um, want to be more in touch with, with

that, because, in the United States,

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the pharmaceutical industry has tried

to take us so far away from things like

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spices for our health I would love to,

to learn from someone, what they use

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everything for, because I certainly

don't know, but it would be a good idea.

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Uh, like the world is full of

treasures, like just full of treasures

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and there are different treasures.

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So just like if we're speaking about

the honey in itself, there is, there's

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rare honey, I think it's called manca.

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And then it's good for a certain things.

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And this is in New Zealand, in Morocco,

MoCo, we have like EU four Dani.

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That's great.

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Like for your thyroid weight problems,

for like cancer, for a lot of things,

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like we have different type of things

that we know when to use and how to use.

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That's also important.

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So when I'm taking honey as medicinal, I'm

gonna take it either early in the morning.

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Or late at night, meaning that

that's gonna drink after it's like

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water or have food for at least 30

minutes or one hour because I need

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the honey on itself to do its magic.

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And also like we're taking it consecutive.

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It's not just one day or two day.

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Like I've managed to cure myself

from like cold without having pills.

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Yeah.

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And then cure myself from a lot of

sicknesses without taking pills.

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But when it comes to something that

it's quite serious, that means that we

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go to the doctor, we do our inspection,

and we see what it's needed like later

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on to do, and then we do a follow up.

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But as long as we can

cure it, not already.

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So why not?

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This is the question.

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Yeah.

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Why not?

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Exactly.

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So you've been doing this

for quite a few years.

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What do most of your guests

want to see, do you think?

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Yeah.

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I would say most of the guests

would like really just to connect.

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If I'm gonna use a word, I'm going

to use the word connect and I'm

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gonna focus on it the most, like the.

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The, the effect of the journey

after is that they're saying, oh,

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we loved being with our driver.

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He was so great.

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We felt so connected to him.

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He was sharing with us stories

on the way, and like we knew

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Morocco from, its in depth.

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So like this word is repeated a lot.

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We loved being in a family home.

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We loved touring the

Medina with the guide.

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We loved seeing a woman and being

with her, like we loved understanding

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Morocco from this point of view.

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So I don't have accommodation shining

like, oh, I loved my stay at this area.

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I don't have that shopping that much.

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Of course, they appreciate

accommodation and where they stay.

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Yeah.

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Things, or the most effect is

like these impact that they are

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taking with them from that journey.

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Yeah.

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Which is human being to human being.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Human being to human being.

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That's, that's an important

part of the travel experience.

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, What kind of natural wonders

do people find in Morocco?

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Does anyone go there for nature?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I would say like Morocco has different

types of natures and this is when

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it's great in terms of diversity.

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Beaches for people who wanna serve,

do yoga, relax, and all of that.

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And we have also High Atlas Mountain

or High Peak, especially the Topal one.

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It's more than 4,000 like meters.

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Mm-hmm.

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And that's like a mountain where

people would like to hike and it

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takes at least like two or three.

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To hike it at ease in that sense.

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And also they have diverse ways of hiking.

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It doesn't mean that they need to do

like the soup car, but there are other

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mountains that are surrounding it when

they can do two or three hours per

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day and like sleep in this beautiful

like CUS bars and just overlook

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like the mountains surrounding them.

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So that's another like natural view

that gets absolutely like LA and adore.

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Also, we have the Sahara deserts, the

Golden Dune, and we have the Aga Fi

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Desert, the Stoney Sahara, which is around

one hour drive from Marrakech each way.

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So for people who don't have enough

time to do the Sahara deserts,

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then at least they have the option

to still sleep in a Grandin 10.

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Do camera riding, do a couple of

activities, and that's only like

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one hour drive from Marrakesh.

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. Each way.

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Yeah.

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So they have that option,

that opportunity to do that.

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So I'm gonna say from land to

beach to desert, this is what

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Morocco contains all of these.

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, So speaking of connection, how

about those pictures behind you?

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Do you wanna share anything

about any of those pictures?

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Who's in those pictures?

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Sure.

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So here actually this picture is like

with, with someone who I do food tour

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with when I'm hosting like Travelers

on a food tour and they would like to

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try the fsu, let me show it to you.

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. So like this is the Fava Bean soap.

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I'm thinking get here, like

to have Fava bean soap.

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With him and he is like

so generous and so open.

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That's good.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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People like love this experience also.

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This one.

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this one is like for

making pottery workshop.

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Oh, really?

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So normally they don't do this as this

big, like the do a small Yeah, it's huge.

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And then they decorate it and they take

it with them as a souvenir, but it's

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their own, like they start from clay.

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Yeah.

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Like to the So this is another activity?

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Oh yeah.

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A different type of picture.

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I know this one is small, but this is

in the high Atlas Mountain and this

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is spending a day in the life of am.

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Like, oh, basically I'm

taking guests to this woman.

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She's the one in the middle, and like

they're cooking with her, they're making

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bread, and they're spending this gorgeous

day, and like they're surrounded by the

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mountains, the view from her terrace.

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And guests absolutely love that,

and that's where she lives.

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Uh, hi Emil.

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Hi Atlas Mountain.

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Wow.

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, If you were to do a trip, the one

that you really wanted to do in

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Morocco, what would be your favorite?

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Oh, my favorite.

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It's a lot.

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It's even like hard to choose.

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I'm gonna take 20 days

or like 30 days nonstop.

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Yeah.

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But I would say like.

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The most, not just the most.

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How?

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Like to describe it.

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Some of the places that resonate

deeply with me are the Sahara Desert.

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There is always something magical

about that road just to take

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it, see like how the scenery is

changing, see how the locals are

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changing, even it's not the same.

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Like it's not just tradition.

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It is people do change ways of dressing

all of that, like it is changing.

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Also being in Tange,

I love being in Tange.

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It's like 40 minutes.

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Away from Spain by ferry, and that's all

right here are from Europe to Morocco

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and it's like a beautiful beach, a nice

lazy back style over there and like

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lovely Medina to explore design arts.

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So it has changed quite massively.

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Compared to Chef Sheen.

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Chef Sheen used to be my favorite, but

it's become super busy recently, like,

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and I appreciate places where I feel

like not just quiet, but just being

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with the locals more in that sense.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And of course, like my home city, fast.

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Like there is always something

magical about being in fest for me.

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Yeah, I've been every, like a lot

of places in Morocco and some places

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abroad, but the moment I'm here

I'm saying, oh, this is my home.

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And I love like the Medina here a lot.

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Marrakesh.

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I would say I love it to an next

extreme, but like basically it's

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some during, couple of times, early

morning, that's the quiet time of Mar.

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And maybe like afternoon when it's

a little bit downtime at night.

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It's super intense.

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There are so many people and I'm

the kind of person like that.

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I like just being with

the locals the most.

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, Let's get a little bit more practical

for people that might wanna come.

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. What do they need to know?

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, Do they need to wear certain clothes?

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Do they need to be aware

of certain traditions?

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. Med medicine they might need to take.

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. What might a new visitor need?

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Yeah.

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Well, I mean like for a new visitor,

this is what I'm gonna recommend.

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Like women are not supposed to

change their style of dressing.

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Morocco is an open country.

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We have women with scarf like me

and women who are like me, but

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they're not doing their scarfs.

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Okay.

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It's with their.

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But what I'm like always

sharing is be mindful that

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you are already an attraction.

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You are different from the locals.

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Ah, we don't need to show a lot of

flesh from your body in order not to

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attract a lot of eyes of the locals

because like, we don't want women

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to feel intimidated by the local.

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They're not used to that.

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This is like when I'm asking women, I

don't ask them to cover like fully or

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like to wear their scarf or anything like

that, but something up to here, a t-shirt,

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a skirt beyond the knee, a little bit

instead of above the knee is wonderful.

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And that's all.

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I mean, those are the things, and

you don't need to cover your hair

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unless if you are going to Hassan

second mask in Casablanca, that's

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the only place where you might

need a scarf just to see the mask.

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And that's it.

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In terms of medicine, I would say like.

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Medicine that relaxes you sometimes

because there is a lot of energy going on.

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Oh, like the motion pads.

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That's also important, like during

some travel journeys that are longer

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in order not to get dizzy or sick.

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It's always good to have

a motion pad with you.

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Yeah.

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And like you just place it

behind your ears and you're good.

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You're good to go.

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Great.

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And also anything like

antibiotics are also great.

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I recommend guests not to drink like

beverages with ice unless knowing

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if the ice is from fin, fin water.

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Okay.

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Or bottled water.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So always make sure to ask where the ice

is coming from before even asking for it.

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And in hotels, any restaurants,

it's okay, but on stops on the way.

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This is where you need

to ask and be mindful.

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Don't eat raw foods.

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Cooked foods and there

are a lot of varieties.

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This is what it's beautiful about Morocco.

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I mean, that's like raw salad.

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It just a small salad and it's

not even like a good appetizer.

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You can eat other things and not

being sick because our raw salads

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are like washed with our water.

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So these are additives and always have

some fruits that are like with peel.

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So I'm not gonna recommend

the strawberry, but I'm gonna

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recommend the orange, a banana.

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Okay.

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Cardo.

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These kind of like fruits.

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So I have along the journey.

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Good to know.

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Good to know.

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Great.

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Thank you.

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And then do you do any

pre-organized trips?

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Like I could, you know, call you up

and say, Hey, do you have a group

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of people going that I could join?

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Or is it all individual?

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Mostly individual.

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This is like what I'm doing.

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Okay.

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I like, I'm working, of course,

like with travel agencies.

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Yeah.

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These are the ones who

sometimes do like group tours.

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Okay.

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However, in terms of my work, mostly like

org, an organ, like mostly individual.

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And I'm leading for the first time,

maybe not this year, but next year.

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A woman group tour that

it's a culinary basis.

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This year I don't have the capacity

to do that, but next year I have

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the luxury of picking a time earlier

and be able to do it like properly.

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Yeah, well, I'll want to

hear about that for sure

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if, if I were to contact you, and

said, what can I do in Morocco?

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Do you like, have a whole list of

things that you send to people?

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Yeah.

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Sometimes when I'm sending so many

options, it's overwhelmed the time.

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Yeah.

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So like, this is what I need, like

to have a 30 minutes, I'm always

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offering a 30 minute like free call,

and then I'm listening like deeper

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to what their interests are and like

what makes their past travel special.

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Some of them might say, oh, just a

night like Under the sky has been great.

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So all of these like enable me

like to know what to suggest.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that's a good point.

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And do you want to name your website

and where we find you on social media?

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. My name of my company is Morocco

Travel Organizer, and the website

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is Morocco travel organizer.com.

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And inside of the website you

will find one of the, like one

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of the wonderful PDF that you can

download at the newsletter section.

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It's like seven mistake to avoid

while traveling to Morocco.

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Uh, it has a lot of in depth,

so I'm gonna recommend just

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go in there and download it.

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You don't have like to subscribe to the

newsletter if you don't want to, but

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if you want to, what we do, we always

send newsletter on the third week of

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each month, and it's all about the

stories of Morocco and spotlighting

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women around the world at the same time.

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So this is what our newsletter are about.

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Yeah, you're all about empowering women

and we never even talked about that.

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That might be another episode

sometime, but,, thank you for your

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work doing that and I appreciate that.

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Alright, thank you so much, for

being here and yeah, I know I look

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forward to coming one of these days

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It's sounds fantastic

and I look forward to it.

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Thank you so much for being here.

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Thank you so much.

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And it'll be great to

have you here in Morocco.

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Yes, I will.

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And to all of you listening or watching,

you will find all of the information,

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links to websites on the show notes page.

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Of course.

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So thank you and bye everyone.

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Bye-bye.