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another show. Don't get this twisted. I am Rob along with my co-host as always Tina. How you doing, Tina?

Living the dream, Rob? Living the dream. Living the dream. That's a loaded answer, but that's all you're getting out of me today. Life is happening everywhere.

live in the dream yeah that's that's kind of what i say

Right? Yeah, like.

Like I told you like off the air like I was like, oh yeah, this is like the longest week ever and it's only Tuesday. Just like son of a gun like for goodness sakes, help me out a little bit, but.

Right?

I decided that I run myself like I did when I was 20 and man my old ass is having issues keeping up But I did it I did it all weekend, but I crashed and burned today. I didn't get up until around noon and It was cold and rainy so and I didn't have to work so I didn't worry about it But that's not like me ever to stay in bed like that I and I'm looking around going I should be doing this and I should be doing that and I Didn't do shit to be honest. I made dinner

That so this past week, I didn't go to work on Friday because I was feeling like I was getting sick. And I had like I had a sore throat, but only on one side, basically. So Friday, Saturday and Sunday, I literally took my dog to the park on Saturday and Sunday and then did not do anything else. And I mean.

Did some laundry.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, I believe that you didn't sound good.

Yeah, and I mean, when I mean I didn't do anything else, like I showered at home and stood and sat on the couch and I sent my kid to get food when it was time to eat. Yeah, I was just like. Yeah, that really helps. I can send him to get alcohol. He's he's at the he's at that age. It's awesome. I'm like here, dude, go buy me a bottle of vodka.

Nice. That's good that you can.

Yeah. Right?

my gosh. My mom back in the day when we were really little would send us down to the liquor store with a note to get her some cigarettes and they would give them to us. Hell yeah.

Right? Of course they would. Gotta love the 70s and early 80s. Yeah, they loved that. So we were going over our list here and you picked this one and I think that, fuck, there's so many, so many things that we could add to this list is the most overrated things in modern life.

Mm-hmm.

Oh boy, there is a lot. I found my little notepad thing where I have some other things. I'll throw these out at you just for fun stuff. Once you've came up with one or something. There's some on here that I think are 100 % what life is right now.

I think we are go go go go go go go go go go go go. Right, that is the problem and like the the hustle culture. You know, we're like people are just. Going and going and they're 24 seven and they want to do this and they're always moving. Uhm? I think that is a very true statement.

Mm-hmm.

I said something to a friend of mine the other day about the difference between men and women. That women never stop moving. Like getting women to actually sit and chill out and not like want to do something is very difficult. Where men we are just...

Sloths we can just come home sit in front of the tv and be fine with it And I think that like that's a big problem between the sexes And I don't think that it's a bad thing that women are always go go go But I believe that there's truth to that You know what I mean? Because I know guys that are hustle culture too and can't sit still and you know, they have their ocd add kicks in and it's funny to watch

Well, I was always told that I was lazy or I didn't do enough and I became this freaking overachiever that doesn't I don't I just don't stop and I can't stand it because I Really want to sit and do nothing but the guilt is there and it's gotten worse as I've gotten older because there's You know, it's more important to take their care of things now where I guess it didn't I didn't think it was that important when I was younger so

I don't know, it is hard for me. I can if somebody says let's watch a movie. I could sit there and watch a movie with them and be fine, but I'm normally folding clothes or I'm still working on a project. Yeah, I have a hard time. Let's just face it.

Yeah, and I think that that is that again, I think it's both sides, but I think that there there is a thing to that because I mean men we are we can come home Pick up a controller and play video games for four hours Or we can come home and turn on the hockey game for three hours and not move and and it's

Mm-hmm.

Right.

Where I have seen there are girls out there that mostly with sports if you're a sports person I think most people who are into sports It'll happen either way right because if you're a sports fan you're okay with it, but video games are a whole other thing I think women can't do that at least Our generation and Millennials aren't good at that. I think Gen Z like my son's generation There's girls that can play video games just like men

Kind of, it's kind of interesting.

could have, but I would have rather been out and about. But I remember when we had a Wii, I would sit there for a while after, I think that we had an hour and we would play it from the time we got home. And then an hour later we would stop because we all had to do everything else. And I liked that. I got pretty good at playing the Wii. Guitar Hero was one of my favorites, but

Right.

Other than that I didn't do that.

actually still have a Wii. It's in my storage closet. No, I just have the regular Wii. Yeah, the regular Wii.

Do you have the guitar hero?

I was going to say I need to borrow that for about a week and get my fill.

Yeah, the the we is awesome. It's such a great system. my son was great at the bowling Like insanely good at the bowling. So what else do you think? What else do you think in in today's modern culture is overrated?

Nice.

Those stupid self-driving cars.

Like a Tesla?

Well, Tesla's to the ones where there's no driver and they want to like, but no, the Tesla, because I hear that it's like being in a microwave to some degree and you're basically cooking yourself. That, that just seems dumb to me. I, and, and I don't know. I don't like the way that Tesla's or the people that are in a drive. I know that's, that's making a grand statement, but if you've ever been around a Tesla,

yeah.

In traffic, they do some dumb shit.

The funny thing is, is I think it's the car though. Like if you've ever been behind a Tesla, like they slow down and stop way behind a car because of the way the car is built. It does it purposely.

Well, it's not even that it's like when the car's in motion, it's doing stupid shit. But I would just say self-driving cars in general, they're, just not, I don't know. They're not there yet.

that's the driver.

That that that. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think that there's a I would not get in a car that has no one in it. I think that that's a little, but I mean, you know, I just think that there's too many things that could happen. So yeah, saying that that's kind of overrated, I think that it's because it's not there yet, and I think will be long dead by the time it actually works.

No!

I sure hope so, I don't want to deal with this bullshit. even to the degree that we're dealing with it now, I really don't... I like to drive, to be honest. You know, I don't... I don't need anybody doing that for me. Like, pick something... Why don't they pick self-cleaning robots that we can all just put in our house, and the damn thing makes sure everything's in its place, and neat, and organized, and tidy, and washed. I'm all for that. But nobody's making those damn things.

it.

Yeah.

you

Right. What was the was the the maid's name on the Jetsons?

But these cars? Ugh!

Robb (09:07.63)

I gotta find that out. That's what we need, right? Rosie, there you go, Rosie. That's what we need. We all need a Rosie. Just a robot maid that scoots around and does all the housework. Yeah, that would be pretty bitchin'. That would be underrated. That would be super cool.

Oh, oh, Rosie, Rosie, it was Rosie. Ah, I knew that. I need a Rosie, yeah.

Yes. Right?

Yes, but see that would actually help and save time this self-driving car if you can't drive a car go get on a train get a bus get a taxi get a whatever you got to get a whatever but stay out of the way because I'm telling you those self-driving cars they are they're scary to be around

Right.

I got one for you and I think that, social media validation.

yeah. I think I could do without social media completely and totally. just completely. I don't care if you're in love with your husband of 25 years. I don't care if your kid did a back flip. I just like call me and tell me, but really I don't want to get on social media and watch all that.

Yeah.

Yeah, I almost don't care if you call me and tell me so seeing it online is not gonna make it any better Because I think it's all a lie social media is the the biggest lie that we've ever told

You

Yeah.

Because no one puts the horribly bad stuff on there. Sure, there are some, but I'm talking about the majority always. It's like all these people that are, they're always on vacation and they're always, you know, you're always putting beach pictures or, you know, boarding an airplane pictures or whatever it is. I think it's just people trying to one up each other. It's keeping up with the Joneses in the worst way possible.

Yeah, it's not my favorite. And you know what? I really don't want people knowing what I'm doing. I know I've said that before, but I really mean it. Nobody needs to know. I like to post like the basket stuff just because we use that for... Yeah, it's to keeping up that, but I don't even do that.

That's trying to sell something though. That's different. That's promotion. Yeah, not enough. You should do it more. I'm just telling, I know you hate to hear that, but it is true. You'll definitely.

Ugh.

I know, social media and me are having issues, so...

Yeah, you guys have a hate-hate relationship. You know what I mean?

Right. I just don't want people to know if they want to know they should call me But then here I'm on a podcast and I talk about things. So, you know, maybe I'm a little And it's different it's I don't we have topics we talk about it's not ooh look at me I did this this weekend. No, I don't want you to know

Yeah.

I mean, but that's once a week.

Yeah, right. And if we do, it's for like five minutes and then we're off to the next race. But I get, think social media is just like, look, it's digital applause, right? It's people who like a comment or like a picture and then forget about you 10 seconds later. You know what I mean? Like, and I mean that in the utmost respect because I think it's just the lay of the land of what social media is.

Yeah, pretty much.

Hmm, interesting, yeah.

It is what it is.

It's not that yeah, it's not that these people don't care about you. It's just that's how social media is set up. I'm telling you, you watch the social dilemma on Netflix. It will turn your stomach. You should watch it.

I don't know if I want to there's a lot of things that I don't watch and I don't look into because I just don't want to know either It's like I'm better to not know these things

Probably. I watched it and at the end it made me feel kind of dirty. Yeah, because of what they're doing. Like I told you last week, like they're fucking with our chemistry, our brain chemistry, and they know it, and they're doing it purposely. It's kind of scary.

Eww, dirty.

Okay.

Yeah.

And what's the purpose?

to keep us engaged because there's ads and people are putting money into ads. So when you're scrolling, doom scrolling, you know, every fourth picture is an ad and it's trying it. it's, and what they're doing too is like, let's say that you're a Democrat. They purposely put Republican stuff on your feed to get you angry and to keep you scrolling.

Okay.

fun.

Yeah, it's it's a very bad thing social media is the devil It's really it's really not and it sucks because it's the one way to promote our show. But you know, it's That's why I always tell people at end of the show. It's word of mouth. Just pass it on to somebody you know and It's it's a scary thing. I don't know. It's We're stuck and we've talked about it a million times. There's like really no getting out of it, but

Yeah.

Right.

you know, unless the world stops and when it does social media, I hope goes away. I mean, like, I look at our show like today, we had we had like 12 downloads today. Right, which it's not that much. But France, South Korea, Albania, Canada, Italy and Japan. Yeah.

stop it interesting

So, and of course the United Kingdom and they love us anyway. Like I can't say anything bad about the United Kingdom because England, Scotland and Ireland are always listening. But so like that's word of mouth. Someone's seeing the show on a page or on the front page or whatever and they're clicking on it. Or people are just sending it, they have already listened to it once and keep sending it over.

Right.

I don't know.

Who knows?

What else? What else is overrated in this modern society of ours?

Tina M Garcia (15:06.032)

The whole like Pronoun war that everybody is in right now. I think that that's way like that is the most That's lame like we we say he and she to say whether it's male or female And I get it that label thing if you don't be labeled I don't know what to tell you you don't live in this world because everything has a label on it, but I I'm sorry. I'm not gonna

They them? They them who? you have multiple personalities? Because if I meet them then I'll be able to call you they or them. But if you don't have something that makes me want to say that it's coming out he or she.

Yeah, I just think that we're, you know, and I hate to use the we were just born in a different era,

No, no, no, it's not that. It's like common language, communication, things that everybody has learned. Now all of sudden, yeah, on the planet now all of a sudden, no, I will identify. No, you'll identify is how we identify you. Not how you, I'm not gonna say you're a cat, sorry. I'm not gonna let you lick my skin. Like.

on the planet, on the planet.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, every other animal on this planet, we go by sex.

Yeah.

So, you we don't look, you don't look at your cat and go, you know, it's a they them. You say it's a he or she because they either got nuts or they don't.

Yeah.

There's that. I mean, that's a pretty clear line on what you would call it.

You know, mean, yeah, and look, how can I say this without like fully insulting people? At the end of the day, you can identify as whatever you want. That's up to you. But I don't have to agree with your craziness.

Yeah. We learned a different way of identifying and you will be referred to as nothing. Yay! Be offended.

Yeah, and if I offend you, be offended. Be offended. Because look, we're all going to be offended over something. And again, I don't want to knock people. Again, identify whatever you want, but you have to understand that the other 97 % of this planet are going to use other pronouns.

Yeah, they're not playing the same game that you are if you want to be. And we're not going to start now. Like maybe if you, the younger generations, if they want to pull that bullshit, they should, but it's not going to happen.

Yeah. And again, like I

And maybe a hundred years from now, it'll be a joke. Like, no, it'll just be everyday life. You're talking about thousands of years of identification. Well, look at Spanish. Everything in Spanish is he or she. And then if you want to go down the line, it's Italian, he or she. Like, all these languages are built to be like that.

of language,

everything's he or she. Yeah.

So you're not gonna, know, I'm sure the Spanish people are probably like think that they're bonkers. I got one for you and I don't know where this went off the rail is like $9 coffee culture. Where did that go off the rail? don't.

Yep.

Yeah.

Mmm.

I mean, I don't really, I mean, I Starbucks, I remember it big when I was married. So that was about 2000. Is that where this all started, like going to Starbucks? And even in 2000, it was pretty big. So I remember my ex-wife going and getting pumpkin lattes every October.

Yeah, I want to know how people have the money to spend seven to nine dollars on one coffee every single day if it's only one coffee And then how many votes of expresso espresso are you putting in? To add to the to the punch. I don't know. I don't drink coffee. So that to me is another one where

Yeah.

Yeah.

Right. Yeah.

So I drink coffee every single day when I make it at home. So I have a, what do you call it? The little K-cup. I have a Keurig, but I have my own cups that I put coffee in. Like I don't put the pre-made ones. I get good coffee.

huh.

hearing.

Really?

yeah, so but the bag of coffee I get for one pound is about fourteen dollars and it'll last me More than a month

because I'm only making one. So I run a cup and then I run another cup through the same coffee because it's pretty strong. And that cost me $15 for the bag. So I'm getting more than 30 days for what some of these people pay for two coffees. And it's better. I've had Starbucks regular

Right?

coffee, it's dog shit. At least the medium blend. drink light, yeah, I drink a light coffee because the light coffee is so if you ever get a coffee and you're out and about, always ask for the golden or the light roast because it has way more caffeine and it has less coffee taste.

I don't know anything about it.

because they're the most,

okay.

So the darker the coffee, the less the caffeine, but tastes like coffee. That's why a medium roast is like the normal, almost any way you go, you're going to get a medium roast because it's, it's the middle ground, right? It's got enough caffeine, but got enough coffee taste. but like I get jittery. My cup, my, that gold roast is good stuff, but I just, I couldn't imagine. I mean, I've bought Starbucks while I was out.

Gotcha.

I went to Vegas not too long ago and you know everything is crazy in Vegas. think I for a coffee in Vegas we paid $13 a cup.

Wow. So that's like, don't understand how big is that cup of coffee?

Yeah.

It was a big, it was a large. So like the largest one you can get there, I don't know how many ounces, I want to say probably 20. So 20 ounces was like, it was like 12 bucks I think is what we paid. Yeah. It hurt.

Damn.

You could see... For the price of two of those, you could get one of those big ass guzzlers of alcohol and have yourself a party.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know it hurt my butthole. Like I was like, can't believe we're paying this. But mostly when I know that I, and now, and I got a frilly drink because I wanted it to taste good. I got not frilly, but I got like a, I got a latte with vanilla in it because I wanted it to taste good in that.

Hehehehehe

But still, I can't believe the normal people who go to Starbucks and buy a $7 coffee daily. I would drive me insane. I mean, just think, what is that? Let's do a little arithmetic while we're on the phone. Let's say you do $7 a day times, let's say 20 days, 28 days. That's $200 a month in coffee. That's bonkers to me. So, I don't know.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What about you? about anything else?

Yup.

You know what these Stanley cups like $60 for a Stanley cup is ridiculous. The Yetis. Yeah.

yeah, or a Yeti. Yetis. Yetis are great. I'll be honest. I've bought, if you want to buy a Yeti, what you do is you go to TJ Maxx has dented ones.

Uh-huh.

Has tinted ones?

no dented, like chipped or dented. And what they do is they run them through there. I got one there for like $21. When they go for like 42.

Yeah, see, I don't... They always say they don't leak. Mine leaks. And then it doesn't... It'll keep your water cold for however many days. No, my eye still melts. Like, they're not telling the truth.

Yeah, the Yeti I have will last pretty much all day long. But yeah, still, mean, 40 something dollars a cup is pretty crazy.

Well the Stanleys right now for the big ones, they're over $60.

Yeah, that's that's absurd mostly when you could get a yeti that I know works. I think the biggest yeti I'm gonna say it's 40 ounces that I it's like 40 bucks 40 something but I agree. I mean We've made travel mugs a luxury

Yes, we have.

You know, like when we were kids, you had a plastic cup and you traveled with that and you were happy. You know, and even that was like nothing, right? They gave them away. Like we'd recycle old, old like, what's the burrito place?

That's true.

Yeah.

it. I remember we would go I forgot what the name of the place is but it was like it was a it's a it's a brand like they I had gotta think of what it was called now I'm trying to see if I can find it online anyway they you could go and buy a soda and then get a cup that had a like a top on it that was plastic and we would we'd recycle those and use them at home

Where was it at?

Right.

Because it was like, I mean, we recycled a lot of stuff though when we were young. Like, shit, I remember there being, you know, butter containers in the refrigerator that didn't have no butter in them. Had leftovers. You know.

Yeah, my grandmother was notorious for that. She'd be like, give me the butter. And I'm like, seven dishes later, I'd find it. They were all little butter, yeah, butter dishes or a cool whip. Yeah.

yeah, the Cool Whip. Cool Whip, the Cool Whip in my refrigerator you had to open. Because it probably wasn't Cool Whip. It was probably a piece of pie that we brought home from, you know, my aunt's house. Because they, that's how they, because they didn't send home Tupperware with you because Tupperware was, that was top notch stuff. Yeah, that was the good stuff. We sent you home with.

Hmm.

expensive, right?

some butter dishes. those are the good old days. I hate to say that. It's yeah, just good times. I don't know. Maybe I think we just had it, you know, our era just had a different cause like now you can go to you can go to Walmart and buy a four pack of it's not Tupperware, but you know, like the plastic containers.

Yeah.

That's funny.

You can get four of those things for like $9 and they're good. They're like super duper good. So like, I think it's kind of kind of funny to me. You're like, that's Baja Fresh is where we used to get the cups from.

Yeah.

you

I still like Baja Fresh.

fresh yeah solid they have a solid tacos and solid burrito super good here's one for you luxury branding over actual quality now i don't think it's just the modern time i think it happened a lot when we were young but now i think it's out of control

Yeah. I like that place.

for sure.

I mean, there was someone I worked with who.

Yeah, I would agree with that.

anything. Her husband is well off. Let's say it that way. And the circle that they run in has a lot of hole, let's just say that. Well, someone wanted to give her a gift. It was a purse. And I'm not joking, it was probably six inches by five inches, and probably four inches wide. It was $1,000.

Okay.

Okay.

Goddamn. You know, I never understood the brand name stuff.

It just was never... I didn't care. I didn't care what people wore. didn't care. And you know what? All you're doing with by having their name or their logo on your clothes is you're advertising for them. So why would you pay so much to advertise for something else?

Right, that's exactly what you're doing. You're just, you're just selling more of their shit to make sure their prices go up. You know, and, look, and I don't want to say that a lot of that isn't quality stuff, but I, but the same person who got this purse had a real Louis Vuitton and a knockoff.

Yeah.

Right?

Bye bye!

right next to each other on a desk and asked me to pick out which one was real. They, and they had, everything was the same. Stamps on the inside, like everything. It looked identical.

So what was the difference on it?

I I never could tell she said that like certain things about it were like stitching Like they stitch it a different way or whatever, but I was like No one could tell I I don't so i'm going to to guess that a lot of people carrying these bags around. They're not real

Uhhh...

Because those, I couldn't imagine, I know people who have real ones and they have several at like five or $600 a purse.

I think that's crazy. I barely even carry a purse, so... It is.

It's...

That's psycho. That's not crazy. That's that is living. And again, how can I say this without I don't want to shit on anybody. Spend your money the way you want, because I do also believe that you only live once. So that so I don't want to. But I just think like, wow, you know, and I'm just as guilty like, you know, I have a good microphone. You know, and.

Mm-hmm.

Right?

I'm a photographer, what I've spent on camera equipment would fucker a lot of people's assholes. I mean, a lot.

Hahaha

Well, we could talk about me and the Harley and all that money that goes into that and having that and

Yeah, but but that's a little different because that's something that you can actually get around on like my camera and again, not that I spent like I bought a good camera And I mean, you know at the time it was really good Just the body with no lens was 2500 bucks Yeah, so you know i'm just as guilty

Wow.

But it's not like there's only like three really good brands of cameras. like you don't, it's not like you can, anyone that you're going to get of any quality is going to be expensive. But I've also had that camera for like 10 years and it's a workhorse and it's still going. It's going to be used this coming Saturday. So the long, think that's why they're expensive because longevity, it's kind of like furniture.

People go, is expensive. Yeah, because it lasts a long time. Most people have furniture five to eight years.

Is that all? Do you remember when like people had furniture for like ever?

Yeah.

yeah, well they covered it plastic so you could. Our grandma's fucking all the furniture had plastic on it. They took that shit off when people came. Yeah, like that was a crazy time.

Right?

Yeah?

Yeah, but they kept it for like ever, ever.

Crazy time.

Ever. yeah. Forever. Forever. For sure.

You want to buy a good set because it's going to last you forever. I'm like, no, things need to change in forever. They can't just be like this always. I don't know. I'm glad that I'm glad that things don't last forever anymore in that respect.

Right.

Yeah, I mean to a certain degree I do agree with that, but I also hate that they build things to break. You know, so there's a balance somewhere in there.

Yeah, the whole yeah. We're like the damn phones, you know, you can't keep a phone for more than two years before they start having problems. So you have to get the next best thing.

There's an overrated thing right there. The cellular phone culture.

Yeah.

Yeah, I like it that I could get a hold of people. But on the other hand, I miss the days where you had to use chance to see if you were going to get together with people. You called them. You made plans. What? Plans? Yeah. And then, you know, it was a chance if they answered the phone or not. They could have been out or somebody was on it or, you know, it was.

chance.

like knocked off the hook so it was kind of dead. I thought those days were kind of fun trying to figure out am I gonna get to talk to him or is somebody gonna be on the phone and I won't hear from him until the week from Tuesday. Like you don't know what you were gonna get back in the day. I kind of liked playing that one.

Right, exactly.

Yeah. Speaking of craziness on phones, so I have a thing with my phone company that I can upgrade my Apple phone every year. And I don't get in trouble for it. I didn't do it this past year. But I heard so Apple, just going to try to give you the example of like craziness. Apple's putting out a foldable phone.

Nice.

or they're going to be putting out a foldable phone probably this year at the end of the year. The lowest model that they're talking about is gonna be $2,000. Yeah, and the most expensive with like a terabyte of storage, they're saying close to like 2,700.

Okay.

Shut the front door.

Stop it! For a phone you could fold in half?

Yeah, it's going to be a flip phone. basically, and again, no one knows for positive, there's, there's leaks and there's a dummy phone going around. If you, if you know what an iPad mini is, it's going to be about the same size as an iPad mini, which is kind of scary. But just think like we're talking about a $2,000 phone that in two years you're going to replace again. You know, so like

Yeah.

you kind of hit the nail on the head. You know what I mean? Like it were were kind of crazy. They were obsessed with it and it's and that's that's a modern thing. Like I remember when we first got our first cordless phone. When when me and my dad moved to move in with my stepmom, we took it with us. And then when I moved out, I took it with me.

Absolutely.

Mmm.

He

Yeah, they were kind of fantastic.

Yeah, and and because you know, we spent so much on them We use that till it's death and then when we thought it was dead, we got a new battery just to make sure And then when that charged you were super happy You're like, yeah, and I think that I didn't get a new cordless phone for people who actually still had a landline I didn't get a new cordless phone I think until

Yep. That's funny.

My ex-wife moved in. So it was like eight years or something, because I just had a regular phone hanging on the wall still. So yeah, it's a crazy thing. So I mean, that shows part of it. Here's something that we've talked about a bazillion times that are overrated, dating apps.

Wow.

yeah.

Absolutely, positively overrated nonsense. It's bullshit. And I know that we've talked about it on here before, but also dating apps are absolute bullshit because they want you to continue to pay the fee and never get date and barely get dates. It's a fact. They do it purposely. There's only three companies that own all the dating apps.

Hmm.

Really? Wait, you did tell me that.

Yeah, it might be only two. Yeah, but I think it's three. It's either three or two. They own all of them. So they don't give a shit which one you use. All they care is you pay the the fee and the people who basically use it for free rarely get matches. Yeah, it's a scam. Don't use them. Go out, touch grass and meet at a bar. And I know that's a horrible thing or.

Wow.

Touch, touch grass.

Yeah, go walk your dog at the park and if you see a girl at the park talk to her Yeah, because they don't work it's it's total nonsense it's It's bullshit. Like it's just I think it's

right?

I told the story the other day of how this guy like hit me up as I was walking out of the shop and flirted with me, but he didn't ask me out. And I was like, you did all that work. What the hell? I probably would have gone out with him because he had good lines.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean...

Yeah, I mean i've told people like if I saw a pretty girl and literally Because like I think men got it really bad now because if you go up and talk to somebody they think you're a creep So i've actually gone up and said hey, I just want to tell you that you're really you know I I think you're really pretty and you have a good day and walked away

Yeah.

Wow.

because I think because we're behind the eight ball. You can't you say too much and they think you're a fucking creep or they're taking a picture of you and posting it on social media saying that this guy was crazy. I think that yeah. And I think that that's that's another part of this modern thing that, know, you go to a bar and you talk to somebody and they're

Watch this guy.

posting videos of you trying to hit on them and then put it on social media. But it happens.

That's stupid. I would say, I would say if you don't like it, then stay inside. Like seriously, if people are going to approach you, people are going to talk to you, not everybody's crazy. Not everybody has an issue. Some people are just plain nice. Relax.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm, I agree. What about this one? And this is kind of what we were talking about earlier, but perfect lifestyles online.

We know there's no perfect lifestyles online because everybody gets divorced. Like if you follow them long enough, they're getting divorced.

Well, we know that it's not perfect because ours isn't. No, it's look, everybody has to go on a roller coaster ride.

No, life isn't meant to be perfect.

For sure you don't learn lessons by doing everything right.

Yeah, and you don't end up with the right people unless you've been on a roller coaster a few times. You know, you have to experience life. And look, be cautious. Yeah, and you should be cautious. Like, don't just quit your job willy-nilly. Probably not a good idea. And I think that that's the Gen Z thing to do.

That's for sure.

And you should want to.

You think?

The Gen Z thing is like, because I've seen it. My son one day just came home and I quit my job today. I was like, you fucking what?

Yeah, but that's not just Gen Z. I think that's age, because I probably did that four or five times as a teenager. Just said, fuck it, because something else was going on. I did that.

see I didn't. Most of my jobs with the exception of one, one I had 30 days and was UPS and it was prison labor so I didn't want to work there.

What?

Wow. So when I went to Target, I worked at Target and they wouldn't let me have time off to go on a vacation. So I went on the vacation and when I came back, they just didn't have me back. No big deal. So then I worked at a dry cleaner and one of the guys, brother-in-law's grabbed at me. And so I kicked him in the balls and walked out and never went back to that job. And then the list goes on because I went through quite a few jobs in the beginning.

Yeah, that's... yeah.

Right.

But I've been a hairdresser for 35 years, so I got it together.

Right. Like for me, my my I had a couple of jobs, but I lasted at least a year at all of them. But then when I worked for the good guys, I worked there for 10 years. Then I left there for another company. I worked there 10 years.

Wow.

And then after that, I went to Vegas. That was 2009, 2010, so the market crashed. So I was only there for two years, but I worked for two years there. And I came back and I was in the alarm business for eight years. And then I've been where I'm at right now seven years. So when I go someplace, I generally stay. But well, yes, that's different though.

Yeah.

Well, I do now 35 years later, but those those initial jobs, nah.

You're an independent contractor though. So I think, yeah, you just quit wherever you're paying to have a seat and go somewhere else.

Yeah, I don't have anybody to quit on.

I've done that. used to that I was on you talked about 10 years. I was on like a five year ride. I would go for five years and then I felt like okay, I learned enough from these people and then I would go somewhere else and but you didn't if you didn't do that you didn't learn because you know if you're watching the same people every day and they're not learning who's going to be you know teaching anything. So I found going to different places. I learned how to do different.

Right.

Right, and...

different things.

Right. you were, you know, you were kind of learning the trade of having clients. Not that you didn't know how to do hair and you might've learned things from people, but I think, you know, learning how to have clients is different. You know what I mean? Like you were learning the business side of it and then, you know, learning new things at the same time. So.

Yeah.

Yes.

Yeah. No, but I, when I walked into that job, I didn't know shit. And a couple of women that I worked with, or that I got my first shop and they said that they would help. They really did help. They gave me a lot of clients. And then when I know what I was doing, they would come in back and talk me through it. And thankfully I knew enough that I could get by. But yeah, by the grace of God, I got through that because

Yeah, I get it.

Right?

I don't know any hairdressers that go straight out of beauty school into working for themselves. They normally do commission. Or at least at the time that's what they did. I don't know what they're doing now. I don't care. But back in the day that's how it was. And it was not easy. It was not.

Yeah, that's crazy.

But you know, never, my mom always said, if there's a hard way to do something, you're going to do it. And I hear that shit in my head all the time because it is true. She wasn't lying. I always do things the hard way. Yeah. Thanks for pointing that out, mom. Love you.

Right.

Thanks, Mom.

Yeah, that's great. mean, look, I mean, again, that's part of the roller coaster ride. And I think that there's something to that. But I think with modern times, I guess it's just a it's just so different now with how we all do things and.

Look, we've made so many things easier and I, you know, I love a lot of the modern things that we have. I don't want to complain. And I'm sure people probably said the same thing with, you know, type in modern thing here, the dishwasher or, you know, whatever it is, you know, pick your thing. I think now though, it's just a lot of things.

and it's how we do things. And I think that we've really kind of made life harder when it was supposed to just be easy. Because like you look at social media. Yeah, and social media has made things so much harder. I'm glad, like I am glad with social media to a degree because I've got in contact with people that

I think we did that with a lot of things, yeah.

I would have never been in contact with. Because, you know, like you said last week, the old days, people just, when they moved away, they disappeared. And forever. So, so there is something to a lot of that that we're talking about. I just think that, you know, the things we've talked about today are these modern things that

Yeah!

Some of them have just became an inconvenience. I would love to just get rid of social media in general and either that or with the show. Yeah, go figure. We go to Chi Chi's and sit down and talk about it. You know what I mean? Like I'd rather do that. It's much easier. Yeah, yeah. Speaking of that, we're going to have to do that soon. have to come out there and.

But how would I know what you're doing?

Yup.

Yeah, we've done that for many, many, many years.

Well, we'll do another sit down and maybe we'll.

And then maybe we could fix my camera so you could see me. Because I could see you, but you can't see me.

Yes, I think that's. Yeah, I think that's what we're going to do. I'm going to I need to come out there soon, so we'll talk and. I'll come out there, we'll hit cheese and I'll look at your computer and. That kind of fun stuff. What's the last thing you want to say here about this? This their. Subject.

Okay, we could do that.

Don't let the modern inconveniences stop you from having an experience that you might enjoy.

Yeah, I think that there's just a lot of overrated things that people have made a convenience that and you're really kind of kind of missing out on a lot. So like I said before, touch grass and enjoy the ride. Go and have go and see people.

Good.

Enjoy the ride.

Mmm.

I told my son that the other day. Said go and enjoy people like. Because he's a gamer and he's sits in his room a lot and I'm like you gotta get out. So I'm hoping once he moves out, he'll have a a place that he can go and. And actually. You know, see see people in. And.

Yes.

see people. You know that's it's totally true though when I was with my friends and and my cousins this weekend people that have known me for a very long time and we were talking about when I was younger my grandmother used to take me around a family you know to family's houses and she would sit down and have coffee and I was just supposed to do whatever I don't know was just a kid she brought along but

Learned a lot from sitting there and listening to their stories and I and I ended up meeting family members that I wouldn't have gotten to know if I didn't have those experiences and and now all my cousins are coming to me and they're asking me questions like I don't even know how I know some of the stuff I do I just know because I was around it and How we all would have messed out like a whole generation would have missed out on things from the past had

my grandmother not taking me around. I think it is important that you visit family and you listen to their stories and their views on it because you're going to get a different side than what you've experienced. And that's a good thing too.

100 % that's you know and and old friends make sure that you're checking in with old friends you know even if you're young you know I've lost a lot of friends at young ages like 40 I lost a friend at 40 I lost another friend at 34 from an OD like but you got to check in with people because one day they're here and one day they're gone

Absolutely.

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