What happens when you've built a successful business—but realize you're still searching for something deeper?

This week, Roxy sits down with PlateFit founder Rachael Blumberg for an honest conversation about reinvention, identity, and the unexpected paths that can transform your life.

Rachael shares how creating one of Los Angeles' most recognizable boutique fitness brands was only part of her journey. She opens up about walking away from alcohol, exploring psychedelic healing, discovering the practice of circling, and learning that true strength has as much to do with emotional resilience as physical fitness.

Whether you're navigating midlife, questioning what's next, or simply looking for permission to evolve, this conversation is a powerful reminder that reinvention is always possible.

In this episode, we discuss:

• How Rachael built PlateFit into a successful fitness brand

• Why she chose to stop drinking alcohol—and how it changed her life

• Her experiences with psychedelic healing and personal growth

• What "circling" is and why it's helping people build deeper connections

• Redefining strength in midlife

• Why authenticity often requires letting go of who you used to be

• The courage to reinvent yourself—personally and professionally

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Pulled into her house and it was this huge mansion on the beach. I was like, we're in. I walked into this gorgeous workout room and there was a power plate there.

And then 15 minutes later, Cher walks down and I'm like, oh, wow, there she is. There's my first client. I was slowly dying inside, unbecoming everything that I just wasn't myself. And on the outside it looked incredible.

And I had no idea that I was incomplete and 100% burnout.

And I woke up at 42 years old, had multiple drinks the night before, my kids were in bed with me and I woke up at six in the morning and I was just like, I am unwilling to not be happy anymore.

So how did you know that that was the way to go as opposed to, you know, doing something external and kind of changing everything around you?

Because I was at the center of everything that was going wrong. I was at the center of all of my self hatred. I was like, I'm the common denominator and if I was the common denominator, then I need a defects be.

Who are you going to be this next half of your life? Are you going to be what everybody else wants you to be? Are you going to be you?

Today on the Iconic Midlife, I'm sitting down with Rachel Blumberg Chipret, founder of CEO and platefit, a vibration based fitness and wellness studio in Los Angeles, and someone who spent over two decades building, evolving, and at times completely rebuilding both her business and herself.

With 25 years in the CEO seat and more than 16 years working closely with clients, Rachel's work today centers around what she calls radical authenticity. Helping people step out of the roles they've been performing and start living in a way that actually feels aligned with who they are now.

But this conversation isn't just about wellness trends or entrepreneurship. It's about what happens when the life you've built no longer feels like a fit.

And how that realization shows up in your relationships, your body, and your day to day experience. We also talk about what she's building now, from expanding platefoot's programming to stepping more fully into her role as a mentor and a speaker.

And what it really takes to move into a new chapter without losing yourself in the process. Here's my conversation with Rachel. Welcome to the Iconic Midlife. Rachel, how are you today?

I'm good. Thank you for having me.

I'm so excited. We share so many common friends, which is so fun.

I know.

I love that. I love that. I guess we're like LA girls, huh?

Yeah. Not from LA. I moved here when I was 26 years old, but I'm 46, so it's 20. 20 Years in LA and I feel like this is my home now, but totally.

Where are you from originally?

I'm from a little town called Brentwood, which is in Northern California. There's one here that I actually currently live in, but I live. Yeah, from. From up there.

I know I'm a Texas girl originally, so I hear you. I know what it's like to be a transplant here, you know, I mean, for some reason we just keep staying, don't we?

Yep. My husband's actually from Temple, Texas.

Oh, you're kidding. Oh, wow.

Born there and then moved here, like, shortly after. But once a Texan, always a Texan,.

So always a Texan. Do you go back. Do you visit Texas?

No, never. I mean, I love Texas. I love Texas. I was going to open some studios there during the pandemic and. But I do. I love it there.

It's a.

But, no, we don't visit very often.

It's a great place and actually a great place for your studio too, which.

Yes.

I'm so glad you mentioned your studio because I loved it. I fell in love with Plate Fit probably right before, like, the pandemic, like in those kind of, like, couple years leading up. Such a great workout.

Amazing, really. It's based on a vibration plate for those maybe that are listening, that don't know.

So what was, like when you were coming up with the concept and everything? What was your original vision for Plate Fit? Like, what was kind of the process for you?

So my original vision was I was working. So I'll just tell you a quick story. Working at MySpace. When MySpace before Facebook?

Yes. Oh, my.

Is to work for MySpace, when it was, like, happening. And a friend of mine invited me to a local gym and I went to that local gym and I had been.

I was a Division 1 water polo player and a college athlete. I played nationally. And so I mentioned that because I had done every workout, been in every gym. I had done all the things.

And there was this machine in this gym that she invited me to, and it was. It felt like it was like the coat rack for the gym. It had yoga mats and weights on it.

And I asked the woman at the front desk what it was and she said, oh, it's just a vibrational plate. No one uses it. No one knows what to do with it. And I was like, well, I'm going to go see what it's about.

So I jumped on and this vibration I felt in my knees, in my elbows, I felt it in my tummy. Like, I just felt this he healing prop. I felt the healing properties. I didn't know what it was then. Now, 20 years later, looking back, it is a.

It's like a lifelong longevity hack. It's incredible for bones, incredible for circulation, lymphatic system, all of it. And I was like, it. I became obsessed with it.

Like, after I got on for 30 seconds, I was like, it felt so good in my body, being an athlete, that I was like, I need to know everything there is to know about it.

And I had this vision of, you know, making a studio where people could come use these very, very expensive plates that retailed at the time for $15,000. And that's what I kind of set out to do.

Okay, and you definitely did it. I mean. And you know what I love so much, too, about the workout?

I can literally come in and, like, be done in, like, half an hour, but get such an intense workout. It's amazing. So we see, obviously, like, on the outside, you know, the finished product and how great it was.

But for you, like, inside, what did that look like? Like, did the inside match up with the outside?

Like, you had this really successful studio and obviously all these amazing things, but, like, the inside process, like, what was going on with you? Like, did it match, like the outside?

Yeah. You know, it's interesting. At 26 years old, I was on fire, and I was following this really deep intuition in my heart, and I knew.

I knew that it was something. And everybody told me I was out of my mind. And I think I was. I think I was delusional with this idea.

And I think in order to create something, sometimes we have to be delusional about that idea. And I went out to do it, and I. I quit my job. I packed up my. My entire apartment on the Wilshire corridor.

I started living with her on a friend's couch. And I called power plate and asked them to send me to people that own these. And so they sent me up to a woman's house in Malibu.

Pulled into her house, and it was this huge mansion on the beach. And I was like, where am I? And I walked down to this gorgeous workout room, and there was a power plate there.

And then 15 minutes later, Cher walks down, and I'm like, oh, wow.

Ow.

Yeah, there she is. There was my first client, and I was. This is exactly what I should be doing. Even everybody told me I wasn't. So I was super aligned on the inside.

In the beginning, super aligned.

Okay.

I had this. I had this inner knowing that I was doing what I needed to be doing, even though everybody was telling me I wasn't. And then I went into.

I mean, the story is, is that we opened a studio together six to seven months later. We ended up closing that studio a year after because she got her show in Vegas, I moved down to a little gym down the street.

And for eight years, I was just pushing and pushing and pushing. My nervous system was out of whack. My inner. I was. I was slightly overweight. I was like. I. My.

My body was just screaming to stop, and I was just working as hard as I could, and I was doing everything. I don't recommend that for.

For people, but it's just with my story and what ultimately happened is my husband walked into the gym he's working at and with a personal trainer because I rented space. And we have a quick love story and ended up falling in love, getting pregnant really fast, and added necessity, opening Plate Fit.

And so when I opened Plate Fit, it had already been backed by nine to ten years of research. So I had, like, done all this development to get plate fit to where it was. And we just needed, like, a brand. And he builds things for a living.

I don't. He builds supermarkets, Air1. He builds all the. The air ones.

And so he was like, I'll build you a tiny little, you know, studio, and let's see how it goes. And I was pregnant, opening studios. And it was born in this time where I was on fire, but also like a new mom. And I was opening studios.

I was pregnant. I had a baby. I opened another studio. I got pregnant again, opened another studio.

So I was just in this forward momentum, the process of becoming a new mom and having this beautiful, incredible business that was on fire and making money. And, like, people were asking me to invest in it. I was slowly dying inside, like, slowly, like, unbecoming everything that I just wasn't myself.

And I out and I was partying and I was. I was per se, living the life. And on the outside, it looked incredible.

Right?

It looked incredible. And I. And I felt like it. It should have been incredible. And I had no idea that I was incomplete and 100% burnout. And I was misaligned.

Even though I started aligned with who I was, authentically became everything I thought I should be in order to, like, produce. I was just this, like, machine. I was. I was kind of a machine.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You just have no off switch almost. It's like, forward on like, must do. And it's not even like really about you anymore.

It's like you're just like going, going, going on this, like, rat race. Right. So what was like the turning point for you? Like, what was like the thing that, you know, came up or happened that really made you rethink?

Like, is this right?

So usually what I find in most people and clients that I work with now is. And I just. It's from my really. It's just from my deep lived experience is that something happens that wakes you up.

And whether it's sickness or death or. For me, it was Covid. For me, the inability to run a business and make money, it. It was my inability to stay in forward motion. And I. When.

When Covid happened. What happened? I mean, I've had many of these things happen in my life, but when Covid happened, I just went into, honestly, inner rage, anger.

I was terrified around my business. I couldn't run my business. I was like, we're going to go into debt, which we did. Like, I don't know how I'm going to pay my land.

I mean, the fear was just really incredible. And it sent me into more of like an unwillingness to kind of look at myself. And I did just a deep downward spiral for about two years.

And I woke up at 42 years.

Old,.

Had had multiple drinks the night before. My kids were in bed with me, and I woke up at six in the morning and I was just like, I am unwilling to not be happy anymore.

I am unwilling to live like this. I knew I wasn't me. I knew I was living for everybody else. I knew that I was resentful and sad and rageful. And I knew I was my only solution.

I knew that it, like, I had to stop pointing the finger outward. I literally was like, I'm going to change my life. I said it that morning and my husband looked at me and he said, you're so much smarter than this.

You're so much wiser than this. And I knew it was true. And I was like, okay, I'm willing. I'm willing to do whatever it takes to just like. I just wanted to, like, be safe in my body.

I just wanted to feel better, and I just wanted to be the woman that I knew I could be. And I was so out of touch with her.

Was that. Do you. Because you stopped drinking, drinking, and that was the morning that you kind of like went into that moment was like,.

Drinking is not for me. I knew that, like, drinking was a piece of, of the puzzle. Okay, I.

It was just a tiny little piece of, like, there's this thing that is not allowing me to really look at what I need to look at. And so I just became willing that morning to take that piece out. And that was really scary because my whole entire life was centered around it.

A lot of.

A lot of our lives are centered around going out and going to dinners and having a drink and going to drinks with friends and going on vacation and having. I mean, it's just. It's a whole lifestyle and my whole life was set.

My whole social life was set up around that, and I felt like I was committing social suicide. Yeah.

Was. Were you scared when you thought. I mean.

Yeah, of course. Like, I don't know how I'm gonna. I don't know how I'm gonna do this. I don't know what my life is going to look like without this. But my desire to.

To feel better far outweighed my desire to be liked and far outweighed my desire to. To. To live inauthentically anymore. I was like. I just. I wanted to. I just was like, I need. I need to start living in more alignment.

I need to, like, heal my body. I need. My nervous system deserves a break. So I did it, and I. And I went on a quest. I tell people it was a quest, and it was the quest of a lifetime.

And that's the quest. I help people, women, you know, on right now.

It's like when you wake up in the middle of this beautiful, gorgeous life that's supposed to feel amazing and you feel dead.

Yeah.

And I'm like, I have an incredible husband. My story is not that I got divorced. It's not that I needed to blow up my entire life or to find happiness.

And I know that some people do, and that's amazing.

But mine was like, I needed to find happiness and peace within my marriage, within this beautiful life that I already had, within my gorgeous kids and my. It's like I needed to find myself within that, within my life again.

That's an interesting way to put it because I do think that, you know, a lot of times you think, okay, I need a full change. Like, I need to, like, you know, divorce, stop drinking, like, you know, change jobs, like, do whatever that is, whatever that looks like.

But that's really interesting that you looked inward for the change and, like, in your immediate surroundings. So how did you know that that was the way to go as opposed to, you know, doing something external and kind of changing around you?

Because I was at the center of everything that was going wrong. I was at the center of all of my resentments. I was at the center of all of my. Of my self hatred. I was at the center of like all the.

I was like, I'm the common denominator. And if I was the common denominator, then I. Then I needed to fix me. And so I literally launched.

I, like, pulled up the website and I said how to heal my nervous system on YouTube, where I started, I was like, I just want. I want a little bit of peace. I want to be able to breathe because I was in so much fear. And then this. This Yoga Nidra popped up.

And Yoga Nidra is shavasana of yoga. It's the most ancient practice of all the yogas. It's what everybody is like. And this woman who.

I can send you the website and it's free, by the way, so everybody pays all this money for all these apps for. For essentially it's called Non Sleep Deep Rest and It's free on YouTube. It's amazing. And I give it to all of my clients.

I practice it every single day, still four years later. And it. I put on the.

My headphones, I closed my eyes with an eye mask, and I felt like it was the first time I had taken a breath in like seven or eight years.

Wow. Wow.

Like. Like, I, like, I literally. It passed out. It knocked me out and I. I, like, slept, but I also. I just like, woke up and I was like, oh, my God.

Like, there's space. There's space in my body. I can. A little bit differently.

Yeah. That's amazing. Wow. I know. And breath. And there's like a breath work component. Right. Which is so important.

Like, sometimes you get so emotional doing breath work. Like, I've had tears before, you know, it's.

Yeah. Energy.

It's energy, right. And you don't realize how much you need it until you actually do it. It's one of those things. I feel like.

Yeah, I mean, we all need to breathe, right? We're all holding our breath, right?

We're all holding our breath. We're all. Especially in midlife, you know, I mean, this is like, this time is just so crazy, crazy for people.

You know, I feel like there's change, but then there's also, like, there's like, change within our bodies, you know, biological change and then emotional change. And the kids are getting older if we have them.

And, you know, dynamics, like relationship dynamics are, you know, happening with our spouses and partners and things like that. So it is such a Valuable tool. And I'm so interested to hear about what your husband, like, what was his reaction to all of this?

Like, was this like a conversation you were having with him about, you know, I'm thinking about doing this or how did that.

Look, I just told him that I was going to, I was, I was go, I was launching out. I said, I just, I'm, I'm going to heal myself and like, I'm here for it.

And you know, it's interesting, I always, I always say, like, if you want more love in your life, you want more compassion, you want more affection, you want all of that. It's like you have to be that thing in order to receive it.

And what ultimately happened in my relationship was me healing myself, learning how to love myself, learning how to kind of go first. He softened him. Like, it healed my relationship. And so I wanted more affection, I wanted more understanding, I wanted to be, I wanted to be heard.

And so in order to have all of that happen, I needed to listen, I needed to say I love you, I needed to soften, I needed to, like, not expect it to come in. It just be the thing that I, like, desired. And so all of this, the change actually happened in so many different ways.

It was the yoga nature started it, the breath work, the, the, like, the deep inner work, the asking of questions, the Byron Katie, the 11 Joe Dispenza retreats that I on ayahuasca journeys, the mushrooms. I mean, I, like, I went down this healing path like my life depended on it, because it did.

Okay?

And, and so when you start to wake up and live your own life and you realize that nothing needs to change externally in order for you to get the thing that you desire, then, like, it becomes addictive. Like, feeling well becomes addictive. Like, and, and the power doesn't, is not outside of me.

So, like, I want a different relationship, then I need to show up different inside. My relationship absolutely started to show up differently in all of my relationships. All of my relationships changed for the better.

And the crazy part is that some of them just fell away.

Like the ones that weren't supposed to be there, right after kind of going through all of these things, right? Like, how were you sad to see some of those go? Or were you okay with it?

Of course, friendship breakups are really hard. And nothing was, and nothing was crazy. But also.

So that was four years ago, and then recently about a year and a half ago, I, I, I live, I'm a very, I'm a, I don't know if you know, Human design. But I'm a projector, and projectors tend to be somewhat intense when I. When I make these massive commitments to, like, up.

Uproot my whole entire existence and, like, be a different person. Like, I do very intense things. And so about a year and a half ago, I was. I, through a lot of work, realized that I was very afraid to be seen.

But I also have this, like, deep inner wisdom.

I have an internal gift of helping women find the truth about what they're up to, and also, like, a really incredible gift of telling myself my own truth. So, like, I have a really beautiful way of, like, cutting through all of the bull and, like, getting to the heart of it.

Like, the reason why I was able to see that I was the problem is because I was the problem. Most people think that it's their circumstances, and they think that it's outside of them.

And when you can own your own healing and change your internal systems, like, that brings all the power back.

That's. That is.

I was just going to say that is, like, probably the most powerful feeling to know that you can actually change all of it because it's all in you. Right?

You don't have to be dominated by other people and what they think, how they act and what they say. You can just internally set boundaries for yourself. I mean, the healing is. Is. Is.

Is when you get on this path and you realize that the power is all within you. Like, the amount of freedom that you have from people, places, and things is truly just remarkable. And so I. I was like, I'm going to do a challenge.

I'm going to show up on Instagram every single day for the next 30 days and just start telling the truth. I'm going to start telling people the things that have worked for me. And the thought of that made me want to crawl out of my skin.

Totally. I know exactly what you're talking about. Yes.

Like, people are going to think I'm insane. Yeah. Like, I'm gonna commit social suicide again. Everybody in my circle right now loves me. I'm quiet and I'm like. And I'm. And.

And they, you know, and. But I didn't even know I was living in this box again. It was like, I. I had this thing that needed to come out of me.

I had this wisdom, this truth that I wanted to share with people. I was already sharing in other circles and, like, helping people. And I was like, I just. I just want to, like, out myself.

And, like, what better way than to out myself on a platform with billions of Course people are watching me, but. But my whole entire circle was watching. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Yeah.

I'm just gonna do it. And my husband, all of my close friends, everybody. Everybody judged me. Everybody.

Really?

Are you doing, like. But I was just like. And once I started, once I accomplished that 30 days, and I was just like, I'm gonna do every day.

And it ignited a fire in me that ignited this fire of. Of, like. It's this, like, midlife. It's like, who are you gonna be, Rachel? Who are you gonna be this next half of your life?

Are you gonna be what everybody else wants you to be? Are you going to be you? Yeah.

My gosh.

And I just don't care anymore. People think I'm just going to be me because I deserve to be me, and I deserve to live free inside my own body, inside my own life.

And if my intention is goodness, which it is always, and my intention is to be in service to the world and to health, then I'm going to use my voice. And it's been the most liberating thing I've ever done.

So what would you say to the women that are listening, that are afraid to take that first step?

I would say, find somebody who can help you find what's blocking you. So all the work I had done to get to that point, all of the belief systems, all of the questions, like, the Byron.

I don't know if you're familiar with Byron. Katie, yes. She's also. You can just buy her book. It's free. And the question, is it true? Like, is it true that I. That I.

That I shouldn't show up on Instagram? Is it true that I can't use my voice? Is it true that I'm not good enough? Is it true? Like, all of these.

I started asking myself really important questions. Who would I be without the thought that I'm not enough? Who would I be without the thought that I can't do what Jessica's doing?

Who would I be without the thought? Like, so these are the types of questions that I now help women, like, really uncover. And there's so much to uncover.

And so when you start unraveling belief systems and these ideas that you've acquired throughout your entire life, and you start taking power over them, and you start saying, you know what? I would be? I would be more me without that limiting belief. And then you start to believe it because it's true.

And then all of a sudden, you're not so afraid, and you don't feel stuck, and you're willing to do the thing that you're afraid of.

Do you think that people are afraid to find out who they are? Really?

I think sometimes, yeah, I think they are. And not everybody's ready work when we're ready to come to the work. But yes, I do think people are afraid to uncover the work. But because.

Because the nervous system, by the way, Roxy, the nervous system wants the familiar because that's what it's designed to do. It's designed to keep you safe.

And the familiar is the safety of keeping that belief system from when I was six years old, like, order for me, in order for my dad to come back. Six years old, he left and he came back. In order for him to come back, I have to be perfect. I have to like, be what everybody wants me to be.

I can't have an emotion. I can't say what I want. I'm just going to be a good little girl. So that belief system from 6 years old kept me safe while I was 42 years old.

And then at 42 years old, I said, you know what? I get to parent that 6 year old. I get to tell her, you know what, you get to be whoever you want to be.

You get to say whatever you want to say because I'm holding place for you. And it's not my dad's fault that I made that I made that pact. My dad gave me the safety as a little girl and he came back.

And parents have their own stuff. So I don't blame anything on my past, but I. But I get to take charge of my healing.

And so healing those things and being willing to look at them is where that safety comes from. So not everybody's ready. Their nervous systems aren't ready for the unfamiliar. The unfamiliar is doing the thing. Launch Instagram.

But this, when you realize that you're living like a six year old, it's rewire your brain. Your brain goes, oh my God. It's actually safer to do the thing on Instagram than it is to be afraid to not be myself. Does that make sense?

It's like this, like whole thing happens where you're like, oh my God, I don't have to be, I don't have to be a 6 year old anymore. I can be a 46 year old.

That's absolutely true.

And I feel like that's one that, that is something that I think we need to like repeat over and over, especially midlife, is that we are, we have neuroplasticity. Like, we can change our brains. Like we're not. There's. It's not too late. We're not too old. Like, there is, there is a way to live differently now.

But I do think that people are scared, you know, I. Right. I mean, they're just. It's hard.

It feels overwhelming too.

The, you know, the beautiful thing about Instagram and the Internet and TikTok and, and is that there's so much access now to the truth, which is neuroplasticity. We have so much. And more and more people are talking about it.

Like I was talking about vibration and frequency 20 years ago and like physical vibration and frequency. And now I'm talking about it internally.

And of course, this is what I do for a living, you know, of course vibration has been a part of my life since I was 26 years old. Now it's like a different vibration. Like I'm still doing my, my workouts and I love them and play fits incredible. But now it's.

Now it's about like neuroplasticity and teaching people how to create a different thought. A different thought pattern.

Yes.

And to. And to live with peace and freedom. Like, it's incredible.

It's incredible. Life can be so much greater, you know, it really can. And what does, what, what do you feel like now?

Like, what does your day to day feel like now, you know, now that you're in this, like, different space than you were a few years back? What does that feel like for you? How does your nervous system feel? Like, how does your brain feel like, all of it, you know?

I feel really good. Life is life. So life is going to hand me life. And when those moments come up, I just feel like I have the tools and it's interesting to me to.

It's just like I remember when I was like training my nervous system that like everything works out for me. Like I was doing the tapping, I was like training my body, like over and over and over again. Like, show me how good it can get.

Like all these little tips and tricks that like, we think are woo, but really are not woo. They're like troll to training, retraining the body, retraining the mind. And it's like, I know I, I just know it. Like everything works out.

Always, always, all when I'm moving through something. But, like, it works out better than I ever thought it would and I know it now. And so how do I, I go to bed and I.

And I like review my day and I'm grateful for, I'm grateful for how I showed up. Whether I, whether or not it was like a perfect day, which is never a perfect day or not. I'm grateful for how I show up.

And my relationships look incredible. My relationship with my husband is better than it's ever been. And we have hard stuff, but it's like we were committed to this partnership.

And I love being my kid's mom. And I have incredible friendships and beautiful friendships and new friendships that are coming in.

And I have this newfound love for my own business, my own. My own plate fit business that I've been now running for 20 something years. Like a long time to be doing one thing. And so is my nervous system.

Does it go out and get heightened and do I get in fight or flight? Sometimes, yes. So that's what the nervous system is designed to do. But I know how to come back.

Absolutely. When life is lifing hard, what. What are like some of the tips and tricks that you use to just kind of like, bring it back down?

Yeah. So life was lifeing hard. The last four weeks. I probably went through one of the most transformative.

I'm not ready to fully talk about exactly what happened yet because it's still. It's still in process. But I went through one of the most transformative months, maybe five weeks of my life. And what I do when things. When life.

Life's like, that is, I kind of just go a little more inward. I add a longer meditation in the morning, more movement.

I connect with somebody I really, really trust that I can talk to on a consistent basis that I can really tell my truth to. That doesn't let me unravel. That can bring me back into homeostasis. Literally, like, can say, like, this is the truth about what's happening.

And I use breath. And then I. I mean, I literally go back to the ritual. Like I have a ritual every single day. Ritual. Everyone's like, you're very dedicated.

Like, you're committed. I'm committed to a ritual because it may.

It.

It creates safety for me. So the ritual in the morning just gets a little longer.

The ritual gets a little longer when I'm going through the lifeness and I'm not telling everybody my life at that moment. I'm keeping it safe in a container so that it feels safe enough to get through. And I gather my team in the moments.

I have a team of women around me and my husband that can really support me in. In writing out the truth of. Of what's. What's going on. And so that's how I get through the hard moments.

But I also remember to Live through them, to feel them, to, like, experience them, and, like, remind myself, like I said earlier, truthfully, that I know everything works out all the time, and I don't allow it to take me down.

And like, you're saying to feel these feelings, to not numb them, you know, because I think it's easy to open a bottle of wine at the end of the day and kind of, like, zone out. And believe me, I mean, I do it too, sometimes. So I'm not saying it's.

It's right or wrong, but I'm just saying, like, for me, too, you know, I pulled back on drinking quite a bit, like, especially in the last couple years, just. And also too. Just, you know, it kind of doesn't feel good in my body as much. Right.

Like, the midlife, all the biological changes that are happening, your body, it's just harder to process now than it ever has been.

So, you know, I do feel the difference, too, when I pull back and, you know, have the clarity and, like, you know, being able to kind of face the day in a. In a better mindset, you know, it makes such a difference. It really does. Right?

A clarity of mind from not drinking.

Oh, yeah.

Is. Is honestly, it's. It's just like. It's like. It's like longevity. It is like, people are like, miss it. And I'm like, yes.

For a split second, like, that first, everybody's at the table and they're getting the drinks, and we're, like, on vacation. And I'm like. In the first second, I'm like, yes. And then I'm like, honestly, I. I can have so much fun without it.

Like, I can be just as alive without it.

And the benefits for me of the clarity of, like, of being able to handle life now, it's just, like, it far outweighs the desire for any sort of drink for me. So, yes, I am just going to second that. You know, having the distance from that and being able to, like, to not have that cloud, really, more.

More healing space in the body. Was this judgment if people drink or not? Either. It's just, for me, it's. It's been a gift.

Yeah, absolutely.

And when you were going into it, was it something where you were saying, okay, I'm never going to drink again, or were you taking it kind of, you know, day by day, week by week, kind of seeing how you feel about it, or, like, was it just an absolute decision for you?

So, for me, I. I was sober for nine years, and then I decided to go back to drinking and for seven years when I was building the studios, I decided to go back and drinking for me is just as. I highly allergic. Like, I break out reds. Like my body is physically allergic. And it was the thing that I didn't want to not do.

So everybody has this thing. I find that they're like, I'm just never. I just, I don't want to give that thing up because it's like this, like, safety net.

And so it wasn't like a I'm just not going to drink forever thing. It was, it was that I had come to completion with a substance, a thing, whether it's food or drinking or, or relationships, like whatever it is.

Right. For me, it was like I had just come to completion with something that didn't work in my life, that I wanted to work but didn't work.

And so I was just like, I'm just going to do this. I'm just going to try this out. It was like, it was like the 30 day thing. I'm going to try this out for 30 days. I'm going to tell you how I feel.

And then 30 days happened and I'm like, I'm going to try it out for 90 days. And I tried it out for 90 days. And then I was like, okay, I'm going to give myself one year.

And if I want to drink again in one year and my life doesn't look any different and I don't feel better, then I'm going to drink again. The commitment to myself is, is a. It's kind of intense. Like when I said I'm an intense person, like, I just, I just, I'm here for life.

What I mean, like, I want to experience it and I just do the thing that I know I need to do always. Like, my. I just feel like I'm like being led by like this, like, like my heart leads me right where it needs to go.

And sometimes it's really hard to make those decisions. Sibin.

It is. Well. And a lot of women feel guilty too, right?

Yeah. Yeah.

You know, taking the time to really, like, look inwards, focus on themselves. You know, they feel like they should be taking care of every other person in their life.

And it's like, no, this is like, especially midlife, this is your time. Like, do it, like really live for yourself, you know?

Yeah.

And find out what that thing is.

Yeah. I posted this thing today on Instagram about being over the. The like exhausted. Like, I'm, I'm over being the exact. It's like I'm not being Exhausted.

I'm not, I'm not in that era where I'm like, talking about being exhausted and how overwhelmed I am and, and my body changes and hormonally and like, all of it. I'm just, I'm. I'm here to like, live a good life, know that I have, that there's solutions out there for all of this. And it's really our job.

And so this is where, like, the truth comes in. Like, everyone's like, well, how do I do it? I'm like, you just have to do it. Like the truth.

You just have to be willing to do the thing in, or in order to, to, to be happy. So, like, if you, if you're not miserable. Yeah. If you're not miserable enough, then you're going to stay doing the same thing.

And sometimes the divorce has to happen. Sometimes, like, something catastrophic has to happen, like Covid or my business, like, complete. I had five studios.

I like, literally, like, had to close four of them. I mean, just whatever needs to happen is going to happen in order to wake you up. Like Joe Dispenza says, which I love what he says.

It's just like, it doesn't need to be that way. You could just, you could just change it before it all falls apart, you know?

And I, I think that morning when I woke up between my kids, I was just like, I want to save this life. Like, I knew that the life that I had was a really, really good one. And I knew I had a really good guy who loved me.

And I also knew that I wanted to be a better mother. And I was just like, I, I can, I can do this. Like, I can get better.

And what was the kids reaction? Like, how did they, you know, perceive this change and, you know, how did it affect them and, and how do you teach them too, about this?

You know, I went to one of the Judas Benza retreats. I went on was with 70 people. And it was amazing because we all got to ask questions.

And so one of my questions was, you know, when you decide to make a change in your life, what. How did your kids perceive you? And he said, you know what I say to my kids when I'm about to make a change? And I said, daddy's gonna change.

Daddy's making a change. Watch me. That's what I told my kids throughout this process. Like, mommy's changing. Mommy's going through something. Mommy's making a big move.

Watch me change. And then just leave it at that. Because my internal energy change, my frequency shift, my Vibrational shift affects everybody and they feel it.

And so when I'm good, they're good. When I'm good, he's good. Women are so powerful, and people will. People can at me as much as they want, but we hold the infrastructure of our home.

And as much as you don't want that power, like, I. It's just like, it's very apparent to me, like, I dictate the energy of the home. And so it's my job as a woman to like, to own that.

And it's very powerful to own it, to get right before. Before I need to.

And even if I'm not right, I can then at least take responsibility for it and teach them that, like, mommies have bad days and mommies and daddies, sometimes they don't get along, but we can apologize and come back together.

Oh, absolutely.

A perfectionism is. Is such a great conversation with kids, too. Yeah.

How do we. So how do we set them up for success? Like, what are some great tips for them?

Just showing them that, like, being a human being, that I'm a human being. Like, the other day, we're on our way to school and they're fighting the back. And I was going through this month, right? And I just said.

I looked back and I said, guys, mommy is going through something really hard right now, and I would really appreciate it if you guys could just not bicker and help support me, because sometimes it's helpful for us to all to support each other. And they were like. I said, do you think you could help me with that?

And they were like, yeah, because I want them to know that we all go through hard things and that it's not all supposed to be perfect and you're not going to have a regulated nervous system all the time and that people to help us and that we can ask for what we want. They were like, are you okay? I'm like, mommy is totally okay, and if she wasn't okay, I would let you know, but I just need your help right now.

And like, these are the things. These are the ways, you know? And then. Yeah. And there's so much. And I. So much I can go into parenting and how.

How poorly I do it and how great I am at, like, learning how to be a better mother. But I. My relationship with my kids are really good today.

To show them who you are, truly. I mean, like, good, bad, and the ugly, you know, it's. It's.

I think it's really important to kind of, you know, set them on that path so they Know, because I think for me too, that's one of the hardest things with my daughter. She's 11 and you know, she's kind of getting into this phase where, you know, real life is happening. It's middle school now.

It's not like, you know, elementary when they're really young and like, you know, things are a little bit more delicate like now. It's, they're being exposed to the real world now in so many different ways and things don't always happen the way that they want them to.

So I think it is, there is really a lot of value in showing them all sides of you, you know, as a parent. Right?

Yeah. Yes.

Right. I mean, I like, I, I, I.

Do Mel Robbins book. Let, Let them. Yes.

What do you think about that book? Do you like it?

Well, I just, I, I, I, I, I like it. I like pieces of it. I think it's, I think it's an interesting book and I like her. The principles are really from Al Anon.

Oh, interesting.

The Al Anon principles are literally a way to not meddle and literally give our kids their own experience. It's a way to give human beings. It's a way to say, you know what, it's not mine. Fix yourself. And it has nothing to do with anybody else.

And so it's a beautiful that, that those principles are truly a remarkable way to parent. It's really like, it's, it's really hard to be a mother. It's hard to be a mother. You want to fix it for them, want to make it safe for them.

And, and that's not our job.

That's, that's the hardest lesson to learn. I feel like as a parent, really,.

There's so much grief in that much grief and going like, okay, you just have your own experience. As hard as it is, when they're going through something hard, you just want.

To save them from the pain you do. Right.

But like all the pain, same to me.

That's right.

I'm like, if I got to here and I am who I am today because of all the hard things that I've been through and all the good things I've been through, like they deserve that experience.

Is there anything you regret?

Is there anything I regret? I think I regret one thing.

What's that?

I regret quitting my. I, I quit playing water polo in college.

Oh, really?

I had a full ride scholarship to a Division 1 school and I just, I don't know. I mean, but then, no, I mean it was all part of the experience. But I think that's something I regret.

I think I wish I would have stayed, stayed committed to that because it was an incredible sport and I, I would have loved to have seen where I would have gone because I quit my, my junior year. I would have loved to have played two more years. But there's not really anything I regret. There isn't.

I mean, there's some things that I wish I hadn't done, but all of that has taught me, it taught me so much, you know, the imperfectionism of who I am and the real, like, forgiveness that I've like, learned to cultivate within myself for my, for my own self.

Like, it's like I just had to learn to forgive myself on a really deep level because I'm just a human being on this experience like everybody else is. You know, living life and doing it really, really imperfectly is okay.

Yeah, it's, it's totally okay. And I think that is the most important person you can forgive is yourself. You know, before you can forgive anyone else.

Right.

You've got to just be okay, like, and just love yourself, forgive yourself.

Like, that's the way that you're going to be a fuller person, you know, Be able to experience that love and everything that, that everybody deserves, right?

Yes.

Yeah, I think so. So you mentioned that you also did an ayahuasca journey.

How? I've done many plant journeys.

Okay.

So in my life I'm not doing it anymore, but I, I, I am a big advocate for self psychedelics. I think not everybody should do them, but if it's right for you and done in the right setting, be very healing. It was very healing for me.

And yeah, it was, it was, it was very healing and very eye opening, so. Showed things that I like, I, I, I couldn't look at, but I was in the experience to looking at them. Have you done it?

No, but I've always been curious about it. You know, I've always been like, it's always piqued my interest. I, I'm, I, I will be honest.

Like, a little part of me I think is afraid for what it might bring up, you know, and. Right.

So I think like, it's kind of like one of those things where I'm like, it's always like in the back of my mind, you know, I'm always thinking, oh, it could be really cool just to like have that release and really dig in deep and find out what, you know, what is back there. Because there are things that I've heard that come out that you didn't even realize were back there. Right.

I mean, there's things that are suppressed, and I know I'm just like. It seems heavy, but maybe it's actually lightning. Once you do it.

I mean, it will bring up to the surface for. I'll just speak to my own experience. It brought to the surface things that I really needed to see. And it was like a magnifying glass.

It was like this magnifying glass to parts of my life and ways that I was living that were really in disservice to me and to others. And I. It's like. It's almost like I couldn't look at it, but I, like, had to, because it was there.

And the more I looked at it, the more I understood it, the more I had to surrender it. Like, it was, like, this whole beautiful process. And that's how it's always been with the plant journeys that I've been. That I've been on.

It's just a deeper surrender. And. And then there. There's been journeys where I have been gifted, like.

Like this, like, incredible connection to, you know, consciousness and the idea that I have wisdom to share. And it's been a beautiful tool for me. And I know it's not for everybody, but I just think you need to be ready and not.

I don't think it's for everybody. That's. That's my opinion. I don't think it's for everybody. But I do think that there are incredible healing properties to it.

And if you are afraid, it's your soul's. It's your soul's acknowledgment of the medicine. So every time I say yes to a plant medicine journey, I'm always afraid,.

Really, even after doing it, because your.

Soul knows where it's going. There is, like, a surrender of control. Surrender control. And we're all.

We all have this illusion that we're controlling everything, and we're really not. Because life can change like that. We all know that. We've heard the stories. We've probably experienced it in our life.

Like, one day it's this way, and the next day it's that way, and great train hits you, and you're like, wow. Like, that. That came out of nowhere. The illusion of control is gone in the journey for me. And so it's been a beautiful healing tool for me.

And there's integration. And so I think the world of plant medicine has also gotten a little crazy.

So everybody's in it and doing it, and I think it's important to know who you're sitting with. I would go sit with somebody who. This is what they do. And it's part of their tribe, not somebody in Topanga.

You know, Like, I think it's important that they have roots to like, you know, to.

To.

To the medicine.

Okay. And typically it. It's usually somewhere like in a. For, like you would go. Right, right.

Or. Yeah, somewhere like that. And that you have the tools to integrate when you get back.

And so what happens in some of these journeys is you get blown open. You see something that you didn't know you were going to see, and then people come back and they don't know what to do with it, and it.

Just kind of festers. It kind of sits there. Like, if you don't, people come back.

And like, spiral, you know, and so the integration is really important. And I think sometimes people come back and they're so blown open that they think they just need to go back in. And so there's. I just.

I mean, I have so many opinions about this, but I just think it's a. It's a delicate dance, and if you found your way there, just make sure you're with the right people.

And I. I believe in the healing properties of psychedelics.

I think it's a beautiful tool and it will be interesting to see what happens as it unfolds, because more and more is coming out on it and how much it can really help people.

Yeah, for sure. I mean, I've heard so many. I mean, a lot of positive about it. Friends that have been on it and everything, you know, and had some great things.

I also wonder too. I'm like, is it a good idea to go with your husband on one of those retreats?

I haven't been with my. I've sat with him in some ceremony, but I usually go first.

Okay.

And then I'm like, you should go after.

Yes, yes. I know. It could be very intense. Maybe with your partner there, you know. Yeah.

I mean, probably great too, but, like, my first one, not with him.

Okay. Okay. Yeah. You're like, I'm gonna try this one first. Oh, my gosh. That's so exciting. So what's next for plate fit?

What do you have coming down the pipeline?

So Playfit is. I was actually going to close it all together in December.

Okay.

I had, like, come to the end and I didn't have a lease. I had to renegotiate my lease. And I just was like, you know what? I think it's run its 20 year cycle.

Like, I think I'M ready to, like, step into this next phase of my life, you know, work with women and, you know, and coach and speak and mentor and all the things that I've been doing. And so I sent an email to my community, and I said, I'm closing the doors. And the community was like, you're not closing the doors.

They're like, no, no, no, I don't have a lease. And they were like, okay, well, what would it take? So there was a group of, like, 30 women who.

Who called me, and they were like, what would it take to keep Plate Fit open? And I was like, guys, I've already had the conversation with the landlord. It's closing. And they were like, okay, hypothetically, what would it take?

And so I did the hypothetically. I said, hypothetically, it would take this. And I made the list of everything that needed to happen in order for it to stay open.

Everybody needed to pay way more money than they were paying for the last, you know, 10 years. I had not raised my prices in 10 years, and I needed new trainers, and I needed this. I needed the up upgrade.

I just, like, listed all the stuff into, like, air. Like, this is what I want. And I had zero attachment to it because I was already done. I had already surrendered it. I had grieved it. I let it go.

I. I sat in a circle. I. Anyways, I had done all the work around it, and so I was unattached. And they were like, okay, great, let's make it happen. Give us 30 days.

And PlateFit is now having, like, a revival, and the classes are now packed again. I don't have my Covid story anymore because I surrendered that Covid story.

When I was closing the studio, I was like, I'm no longer going to live in fear about meeting Rent. Like, my.

My life feels so expanded in so many areas, and in my business, it felt contracted because I was, like, just making rent, and I just didn't want to live like that anymore, and I didn't need to. Like, I wasn't making any income, so I was like, why would I keep this thing open? That's not making me feel good. And so it's interesting now.

It's making me feel good. It's fun. It's fun to regrow. It's fun to get new people. It's fun. And I have this, like, incredible new trainer, and he's, like, helping me.

And it's just. It's been. It's been a really incredible first few months of the year.

Wow. Isn't that Powerful. Like you just saying that. Right. And things change. Like, things really changed for you. Like, that's amazing.

Yeah. It's like you stay open, you stay unattached and with curiosity about what my life could be without it. And all of a sudden it's with it.

And then my coaching program is also growing inside of it. And I spend this, like, really beautiful beginning of the new year.

But also, you know, the fire horse, all of it just like really fast, everything is in forward motion. I think the Snake year was easier for me.

Right.

Like a year of the horse. I'm like, oh, my God, this horse is nuts.

Yes.

Running at the speed of light and it happening so fast. And I'm. I'm here for it. I'm on board. But yeah, so Playfit is having a revival and I. And I still don't have a lease.

I'm months right now, and I don't know where it will go or if it will continue to go. I hope it does. It seems like it will. And so we'll see what happens, you know, we'll see what happens.

I'm in the middle of redeveloping my website and I'm taking classes every single day. We've restructured the workout in a way that feels good for my body. Now.

I realized that when I started it, I was, you know, I was 34 years old and in a different era in my life. And the workout looks different for a 34 year old than it does for a 46 year old. So my ideal client is me.

We are focused on, like, strength and bones and lifting and slower movements, functional movements, making sure our core is strong and really getting right vibrationally on the inside. And so the workout, the vibe, everything about the studio feels more aligned with me authentically. And so it'll be interesting to see where it goes.

Yeah, definitely. And I think, like you're saying for midlife women, it is a great workout.

You know, it kind of hits all those target areas, you know, with the bone strength and just, you know, all the great things. The draining the lymph nodes. I mean, there's a lot of benefit.

It is like, it is essential for women midlife. It's actually essential for women in their 30s because that's for bones. Like, it's. It's essential. I'm just gonna say it.

I've been doing it for a long time. Like, everybody should be doing vibration in some capacity. It is so good for your bones.

And past the age of 60, your bone health is an indicator of how long you're going to live.

Yeah. And that is coming up soon for a lot of people. You know, I mean that's. Or if they're already there, you know, I mean that's not.

I think, we think things happen in the future and it's like a long way away, but that is not, that's not far. So blank.

Your kids are 11 and 10 and nine and you're like, how am I 46? Totally.

And here we are.

Oh, but I'm 46. This is wild. My husband turned 50 and we're like, what, what, how are you 50? Right.

Because inside you probably like for me, I feel like that same 25 year old, you know, like on the inside, you know, it's, it's, you know, Wiser.

Much wiser.

Right, exactly, exactly. The body is letting me know that in fact I am not 25,.

But my body better and stronger than it's ever been though. And I think it's like, I really feel, I feel physically amazing.

So what do you recommend for women at home that want. Maybe they don't have a plate fit in their town or wherever they.

I went on Amazon, so there's these Amazon plates. They are not the power plates that I use at the studio, but they are, they're great.

There's a Life Pro, one I can send you, you can link it if you want that. I recommend for people that want to do it at home and you can just stand on it at home and it's really good for.

You can stand on it every day for like five minutes. First of all, it feels good on the body. It's going to like release tension and flesh. The lymphatic system, which is really good for your bones.

Yeah, that's really just huge.

They're like, they're anywhere from 99 to 200 bucks.

Okay. So that's really affordable. I mean, for a piece of, you know, exercise equipment. That's really good. So that's a good thing.

Good tip for people to do for the outside of their bodies and, but also some of the inside. But what do you recommend for women at home as far as like finding their truth and you know, going on that journey.

Like, what are the steps that they should be taking now to really make a change?

I would say what I always say. And this can be controversial too for people. It's like, good. Your morning practice is a non negotiable and people will say, I don't have time.

I'm like, okay, well then you're not this. Then you're not Ready. So if you don't have one minute every single morning, then. Then you're not ready to. To go on the journey.

But if you have the minute and you start with a minute, and then you're ready to. And then you increase it every single morning to create a ritual, to create a practice to bring in the light.

I tell people that some people are just, like, they're in mom mode, or they just had a baby, or they just. They just have so much going on. And I'm like, you can get up in the morning without checking your phone, walk downstairs and light a candle.

That's where it starts. That. That acknowledgement that you matter opens space in your body and in your heart and in your mind to do something different.

And that's where you start, like, that simple little thing, and then you're like, oh, that actually feels really good. And that acknowledgement that you matter more than anybody else. And that's the truth. I matter more than anyone else.

If I am not right, then no one else is right. And so the acknowledgement that. That I am and I am so worthy every single morning for. For. For me, it's anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour.

That's like, that's been a practice for a long time. But I matter that much that. That I make that space for myself. And my ritual is sometimes the same, and then I change it up, but it's.

It's lighting the candle, it's lighting the incense. It's sitting down with an eye mask. It's in quiet.

It's with, you know, with a Joe Dispenza meditation, it's something to acknowledge that my brain doesn't run, that I am more powerful than my thoughts, and that I get to dictate my thoughts. So I am the decider of what I get to think, and I get to tell myself not to think.

And that commitment to not letting this run the show, allowing my body to feel safe enough to be in my heart allows me to receive, it allows me to like me, show up in the world. It allows me to have joy. It allows me to have peace. And so. And even maybe it's dancing for people in the morning.

Like, there's so many rituals that people. Sometimes it is. For me, it's dancing a little bit. I was dancing this last week in my meditation.

But it is just the commitment to making space for yourself in the morning. And then the next step comes.

Absolutely. And you are like, I want everyone to know that at home, listening, like, you are worth it. You are worth it.

To make that change, you know, and that take, that time commitment, it's. It's. It's so incredibly important.

So it's like, it's the great. I always say, like, it's the greatest journey you will ever take is the journey back from here to here. It's the greatest journey I've ever taken.

And I have a lot of great journeys. My kids are incredible journeys. My husband's an incredible journey. My business has been an incredible journey.

But the most incredible journey I've ever taken is the. Is the journey back into, like the. The authentic human being that I am. The journey back to knowing that I matter.

The journey back truly as this cliche, as it says, like falling deeply in love with the woman that I am. That journey is the journey we're taking. It is encouraging to take that one because that will change your life.

That will give you whatever it is you want in your life right now. Whatever it is that you desire. That is where you start. Because nothing else will last unless you do that first.

Yeah, that's absolutely true. And you affect everybody else once you take that journey.

All the people that are around you that you love, you know, and that are important to you, once you do that, that affects them. Yeah.

And honestly, truthfully, like, I think joy and peace is like. It's like, it's. It's like physical healing for the body.

The less you need others to change, the less stressed you are, the less angry you are, the less resentful you are. You. You literally biologically upgrade your body 100%. But like, I've. I literally go into his retreat.

I take a picture of myself before and then I take picture of myself after and I think I age backwards. Wow.

So you just are so much more alive and refreshed and healthy.

You're letting go of all this. So the breath work, you said, like, there's this like breath work. It's like the energy is. It's stuck energy in the body.

So resentment and fear and anger and all of that is stored somewhere. It's an energy. It's an actual energy. It's a frequency that you connect to and that sport in your body somewhere.

You store that long enough, it becomes dis ease like a disease in your body. And that dis ease shows up in aches and pains and cancer and brain, whatever, wrinkly skin, all of it. I mean, all of that.

I mean, this is like now science. Like, it's like science. And so you get yourself right on the inside, you start to feel. Feel physically better.

You're more free, your body feels better. Less ailments, less aches and pains.

Yeah. I mean, it's. And who doesn't want to feel better? Especially now, you know, it's like that's what we're striving for in so many ways.

Our talk has been so enlightening. Just amazing, all the work you've done.

I love that you've had this whole sort of business perspective, and now you're shifting into doing these amazing circles and. And all that good stuff. So tell people where they can find you.

You can find me on Instagram, and that's where you reach me in terms of, like, circling and mentorship and all of that. It's on my stand store. It's in the link in the bio. If you want to come to Plate Fit, I'm there every single day.

And the workout, so that's at Fleet Fit. Or you can also reach Plate Fit from my link in my bio as well.

Yes. It's such a great workout and it's so challenging in the best way.

Yes. It's so good.

It's so good. Yeah, you're in and out. What? It's like 27 minutes or something, like, if I remember correct.

Yes.

I was like, I can do this. Like 27 minutes I can do. You know, that's great. That's great. Well, best of luck with everything. I mean, you're.

Sounds like you got a lot of exciting stuff happening, so it'll be fun to watch you.

Thank you. It's so nice to meet you. And please come see me. You come back.

Oh, I would love to. I would love to. I. I would love to come back. I love that, that workout. So you can count me in for sure.

Great, right? Can't wait.

Yay.

And for everyone listening, please follow, subscribe, like, comment wherever you get your podcasts so we can bring a more amazing conversations like this. Thank you so much, Rachel. It was been a pleasure.

Thank you, Rox.

Thank you.

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