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Why It's Best to Date Like A Caveman With Linda Gross
Episode 2824th May 2023 • Shining Brightly • Howard Brown
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In this fun filled Episode 28 of the Shining Brightly Podcast Show Why it’s best to Date Like a Caveman, my guest is the amazing author, speaker, radio host and coach - Linda Gross.  We dive right in to learn about what a gender difference expert is and why nice guys do not get the girl. Are men really from Mars and women from Venus? Once you get the girl, why are you more desirable to other woman. Come listen, learn and share what the #1 quality that is needed in your dating relationships and life.

    

Mentioned Resources

Website: https://themensadvocate.com/

Book - The Science of Mastering Women: Real Truth About Women That Will Change Your

Life Forever. Amazon Author page -http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B0594II/?tag=dt4m-20   

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/90daybizblueprint

Instagram: @lindagrossspeaks

Twitter: @dt4m

Giveaway: Mention the Shining Brightly show on her website or social channels and Linda will send you her ebook, The C Factor.

About the guest – Linda Gross  

Linda Gross is the author of The Science ofMastering Women.  The Real Truth about Women that will Change Your Life Forever.  Interviewing over 20,000 men to write this book, Linda combined 10 years of academic research at UCLA on relationships, spanning from Caveman days to present, yielding a virtual encyclopedia for men to not only learn everything about women, but to be an expert when dealing with them. Linda hosts her podcast, ‘The Men’s Advocate Show with Linda Gross’, since 2015.  On her weekly show, Linda discusses male-centric topics is and can be heard on blogtalkradio/dtlindagross.  Her vast on-demand library can also be heard on her Soundcloud, iTunes, the Tune-In app, Spotify, and more. Her books can be found on 50 popular platforms as well as Amazon in paperback, e-book, and now, on audio.  Linda is also a sought after business consultant, helping men get through business problems and scale their businesses.  Send her a DM to join her private business group.  

About the Host:

Howard Brown is a best-selling author, award-winning international speaker, Silicon Valley entrepreneur, interfaith peacemaker, and a two-time stage IV cancer survivor. He is also a sought-after speaker and consultant for corporate businesses, nonprofits, congregations, and community groups. Howard has co-founded two social networks that were the first to connect religious communities around the world. He is a nationally known patient advocate and “cancer whisperer” to many families. Howard, his wife Lisa, and daughter Emily currently reside in Michigan, and his happy place is on the basketball court.

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Howard Brown:

Hello, it's Howard Brown. It's the Shining Brightly

Howard Brown:

show. It's your Maestro with the mic. Oh my goodness. I have the

Howard Brown:

best guests. And today we are going to delve into some

Howard Brown:

relationship stuff. And I have to tell you, I brought on an

Howard Brown:

expert today. And Linda gross known as DT Linda. Welcome.

Howard Brown:

Welcome. Welcome. How are you?

Linda Gross:

Thank you. How are you? I'm doing fantastic. How

Linda Gross:

are you today?

Howard Brown:

I am great. Spring is in the air. I know it's in

Howard Brown:

the middle of May in Michigan. But we're just getting our taste

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this spring. So I'm so happy. And I'm just I know we just met

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but you are fascinating to me. I have to tell you why. How many

Howard Brown:

people do you know that I've interviewed 20,000 men? Not me.

Howard Brown:

It's a lifetime research project that you've been doing.

Linda Gross:

Thank you.

Howard Brown:

10 years of academic work. Oh my God. Let me

Howard Brown:

just tell people about you. Then you'll fill in the blanks a

Howard Brown:

little bit. Oh my god. So Linda. She's based in the west coast in

Howard Brown:

Southern California, but interviewed over 20,000 men to

Howard Brown:

write this book. Oh my god, I can't believe it. The science of

Howard Brown:

mastering women. By the way, it was a best seller. It's out

Howard Brown:

there on Kindle. She just finished the audio book. You

Howard Brown:

gotta get it. You got to listen to it. She worked so hard and

Howard Brown:

getting the audiobook out. But you took your research at UCLA

Howard Brown:

on relationships spanning from the cat caveman days, maybe even

Howard Brown:

from Mars to and Venus, who knows. But you yielded this

Howard Brown:

virtual Encyclopaedia of men to not only learn everything about

Howard Brown:

women to be an expert in dealing with them. Boy, I have to tell

Howard Brown:

you, this is going to be my all time best show. Linda, you're

Howard Brown:

also the host of the podcast, the men's advocate show with

Howard Brown:

Linda Gross since 2015, you have a weekly show, you sent her on

Howard Brown:

male centred topics. And it's it's all over the place on

Howard Brown:

SoundCloud, and iTunes and Spotify and more. And your books

Howard Brown:

are still very, very popular. You have an author page on

Howard Brown:

Amazon. And it's amazing. And we'll talk a little bit later in

Howard Brown:

the show about your business consultancy and your private

Howard Brown:

group. And you got a freebie to give away. So we'll talk about

Howard Brown:

that little after so well tell us tell us something else about

Howard Brown:

yourself and also sneaking something that we might not know

Howard Brown:

about you that everyone doesn't know.

Linda Gross:

Ah, okay, well, I love to cook. And I love to

Linda Gross:

experiment with recipes. Sometimes I'll be trying a brand

Linda Gross:

new recipe, and I don't quite like the sauce and I don't quite

Linda Gross:

like the procedure. And then I remember, Oh, I have this recipe

Linda Gross:

from five years ago. And that procedure would apply to this,

Linda Gross:

or those seasonings or sauces would apply better to this

Linda Gross:

recipe. So I love you know that those creative juices and how to

Linda Gross:

make a tasty outcome. So, you know, when I have people over to

Linda Gross:

the house, they cannot have just one as Lay's would say, they're

Linda Gross:

always asking for seconds. And they asked this is how bold they

Linda Gross:

are. Linda, can I take some home, in addition to the

Linda Gross:

seconds,

Howard Brown:

they want the dog and they want the dog to back?

Howard Brown:

You're just freestyle and you're going. Thanks. Thanks for

Howard Brown:

sharing that. Well, let's get let's dig into it and chop it up

Howard Brown:

a little bit here. But the first thing that I have to tell you I

Howard Brown:

mean, the media calls you a gender difference expert.

Howard Brown:

Enlighten me enlighten, enlighten my audience. What is

Howard Brown:

the gender difference? Expert and do you even like that label?

Linda Gross:

Well, it's okay. It's It's It's aptly named? I

Linda Gross:

guess. No, I It's in my opinion, I think the last couple of

Linda Gross:

decades the media has just brainwashed everybody that the

Linda Gross:

sexes are the same. The sexes are the same women can do

Linda Gross:

everything a man can do. Bla bla bla bla bla, I don't believe in

Linda Gross:

any of that. And actually, it's not even up to mine not

Linda Gross:

believing it. I did the research, the academic research

Linda Gross:

to support my findings. And that's ultimately what ended up

Linda Gross:

in the book. But the findings are, that is so not true. It is

Linda Gross:

such a big giant lie. We're not meant to be the sexes are not

Linda Gross:

meant to be the same. We're meant to be complementary. Men

Linda Gross:

come to the table with certain strengths and weaknesses, women

Linda Gross:

come to the table with certain strengths and weaknesses. A is

Linda Gross:

not better than B or vice versa. We're we're intended to merge

Linda Gross:

and to complement each other, and to accentuate the strengths

Linda Gross:

that we do have. And to lift us up from the weaknesses that we

Linda Gross:

have. It's it's supposed to be a well oiled machine. We're not

Linda Gross:

meant to be the same if we were meant to be the same mother

Linda Gross:

nature would have made us all amoebas right. And we're not

Linda Gross:

Yeah, we

Howard Brown:

got we got different plumbing,

Linda Gross:

you know, everything down everything down

Linda Gross:

the line, you know, the lung capacity, the muscle capacity is

Linda Gross:

like everything is different.

Howard Brown:

So, reason yeah, no, take me a little deeper into

Howard Brown:

the research. Now. How did that I mean, that's all lot of men

Howard Brown:

you talk to Boy, I tell I take me through what

Linda Gross:

Everyone wants to know, like, how did you make

Linda Gross:

that happen? Should I tell you my secret on how I made it

Linda Gross:

happen if they had just invented the chat window, so I was able

Linda Gross:

to have five concurrent chat windows going on at the same

Linda Gross:

time. And well, let me back up one more step. I wrote the book

Linda Gross:

myself, I got to about six or seven chapters, and then I ended

Linda Gross:

up throwing it in the trash. And I thought nobody wants to hear

Linda Gross:

me stand on a soapbox talking about this subject. I'd rather

Linda Gross:

take this to the man on the street. And the man on the

Linda Gross:

street at the time was men on the internet, right? So I had a

Linda Gross:

blog site, I had 1000s of people who are on my blog site. And I

Linda Gross:

just started interviewing them. So the chat window comes into

Linda Gross:

play. And wow, I'm able to have five conversations with five

Linda Gross:

different men. And I kept asking, you know, what is your

Linda Gross:

headache? What is your problem? How did you get dumped? How did

Linda Gross:

you get cheated on? What didn't work for you? What did you try?

Linda Gross:

Nice Guy this that? Yeah. Like, all these zillions of questions.

Linda Gross:

And every conversation was unique. It wasn't like, I sent

Linda Gross:

one singular questionnaire to all 20,000 men, it wasn't like

Linda Gross:

that. I let them carry the conversation. for person number

Linda Gross:

one, you know, divorce was on their mind. Person Number Two

Linda Gross:

custody was on their mind. Person number three finances

Linda Gross:

were on their mind. So wherever the conversation went, that's

Linda Gross:

where I went to. And so after, you know, similar questions kept

Linda Gross:

coming up. And I got 500 answers to the same question exactly the

Linda Gross:

same way. And I thought, wow, statistically, this can't

Linda Gross:

happen. This is I'm on to something. And then I kept going

Linda Gross:

and kept going. Because it was so much fun. To me. It wasn't

Linda Gross:

work. I was basically doing this for 18 hours a day, for 18

Linda Gross:

months. But it didn't feel like work, because it was so

Linda Gross:

fascinating. So anyway, 500 went to 1000 answers, no deviations

Linda Gross:

to the same, same answer to the same question exactly, like

Linda Gross:

right on point. And I'm like, Oh, I gotta keep going. And I

Linda Gross:

have a degree in psychology from UCLA. And university studies

Linda Gross:

typically are anywhere the sample size is like 500. Maybe

Linda Gross:

if you got good funding, it's 1000. Maybe if you got excellent

Linda Gross:

funding is 1500. It's certainly not 20,000. Right? And I kept

Linda Gross:

going and going, because I wanted to see if there's

Linda Gross:

deviation if it if, if if somebody breaks the mould here,

Linda Gross:

but no, there was no deviation. Then I started doing the

Linda Gross:

academic research that went along with all these

Linda Gross:

questionnaires. And what I found out is, things happen for a

Linda Gross:

reason for a biological reason, like our behaviours occur due to

Linda Gross:

hormones, synapses, bodily functions, we react and act to

Linda Gross:

certain events, to certain interactions with the opposite

Linda Gross:

sex for a reason, we are attracted or repelled by

Linda Gross:

somebody for a reason. You know, it's all it's almost like you

Linda Gross:

can sniff it out or something like that. So there was a very

Linda Gross:

famous study, where they took 15 of men's soiled T shirts, right?

Linda Gross:

And they gave them to the woman course, they have no idea what

Linda Gross:

the guy looks like, or the guy wasn't there in person, just the

Linda Gross:

t shirt. And they had them smell these soil T shirts, and the

Linda Gross:

women would write down, were repelled, or were attracted to

Linda Gross:

this. So the pheromones kicked in the sense this, this scent

Linda Gross:

kicked in. And it and I and I did the research on that all

Linda Gross:

that and that's how it works. It's all biological.

Howard Brown:

That's, that's fascinating. And you had men

Howard Brown:

were of all sorts, single couples, married divorced, and

Howard Brown:

all like, ages. 1875 Yep. Well, the whole gamut.

Linda Gross:

I actually had several, a couple of dozen young

Linda Gross:

men who were gay, and I'm like, why are you reading my book? And

Linda Gross:

they're like, oh, no, no, it still applies because somebody

Linda Gross:

is quote, unquote, the male partner and somebody is the

Linda Gross:

feminine partner, you know, the more artistic emotional feminine

Linda Gross:

partner so they're like, No, your book still works with us

Linda Gross:

too. And I'm like up

Howard Brown:

so I mean, it's funny you know, I you grow up

Howard Brown:

and they like you my I have a twin sister. So yeah, go meet a

Howard Brown:

nice Jewish boy. He's a doctor. He's a lawyer, you know, go

Howard Brown:

Yeah. So So all right. That can a nice guy. It can you make it I

Howard Brown:

mean, it's being a nice guy does it work? Tell me the truth, I

Howard Brown:

got to know does

Linda Gross:

it work? You know, I'm sure the young men all hear

Linda Gross:

from their mothers, you know, be a nice guy, make sure you

Linda Gross:

respect her, like all this nonsense, none of that works so

Linda Gross:

hard. So so the poor guy spends all his time he's like, you

Linda Gross:

know, Honey, I'll help you paint the living room, of course, I

Linda Gross:

will, Honey, I'll help you change the tires, Honey, I'll

Linda Gross:

help you know, restore your computer that just crashed or

Linda Gross:

whatever, because he thinks if he does all these nice

Linda Gross:

activities, she's gonna, you know, do the deed with him,

Linda Gross:

right. But it doesn't work that way. It doesn't work that way.

Linda Gross:

And the mothers who say, you have to respect a woman, I don't

Linda Gross:

believe in that either. I believe that you should treat a

Linda Gross:

woman or any person, male or female for that matter, evenly,

Linda Gross:

just equal, right? The person has to earn respect. They don't

Linda Gross:

get respect, just you know, for no reason, you have to earn the

Linda Gross:

respect. So I'm not saying be in a hole or be mean to them or

Linda Gross:

whatever. No, that that would be a negative emotion, right. So no

Linda Gross:

respect, which is a positive emotion, a positive esteem, and

Linda Gross:

no meanness, just be in the middle, just be neutral. Until

Linda Gross:

like Reagan used to say, Trust and verify. So you know, when

Linda Gross:

they earn it, then you can upgrade their status?

Howard Brown:

Well, I think that relationships are not always cut

Howard Brown:

and dry. It's their complex, right, and teamwork. Teamwork is

Howard Brown:

the dream work. I hope I agree with you there. And it's, it's

Howard Brown:

nice to do nice things for each other. But I guess there has to

Howard Brown:

be that respect, built and you have to be able to communicate,

Howard Brown:

right? What happens is guys tend to not communicate, right? It's

Howard Brown:

a tendency that we don't do, I can tell you that, you know,

Howard Brown:

we'd like to grunt and we'd like to be in our man cave, and maybe

Howard Brown:

not express how we're truly feeling. Yeah. And it's

Howard Brown:

sometimes it might come out as an outburst, or anger or

Howard Brown:

something else instead. So I guess, you know, we'll have

Howard Brown:

learning to do as well. So here's, here's

Linda Gross:

the good news, this little foot note to this nice

Linda Gross:

guy thing. Yeah, don't do it for the first 90 days. After that,

Linda Gross:

after you've won her over, then then you can bring your nice guy

Linda Gross:

out, then it's acceptable. But the first 90 days, she needs

Linda Gross:

something else. And that's what you've got to address.

Howard Brown:

But that also leads me to think to the bad

Howard Brown:

boys when to the bad boys, when why boys win,

Linda Gross:

because they have the number one quality that

Linda Gross:

women are looking for. Not nice guy, the number one they need

Linda Gross:

this quality, like they need air and it seems today, like one one

Linda Gross:

group generalised group that has this quality is the bad boy.

Linda Gross:

Right? So the thing, the quality that you need to win her over

Linda Gross:

with for the first 90 days is confidence. And why is that

Linda Gross:

again, we go back to biology, women need you for confidence.

Linda Gross:

Because let's say there's a weather condition, you know, a

Linda Gross:

hurricane avalanche tornado, like whatever it is, to to help

Linda Gross:

pull the women and children out of danger. So that's why she's

Linda Gross:

looking for a confident man. So those first 90 days, I want you

Linda Gross:

to be a good guy, always not a nice guy, a good guy. Some

Linda Gross:

somebody that has value standards, morals knows the line

Linda Gross:

in the sand, be a good guy, but you've got to transmit that you

Linda Gross:

have confidence that if there were an emergency, if there were

Linda Gross:

some guy who's bothering you at the dinner table trying to hit

Linda Gross:

on your girl, no, you're gonna put that guy in his place. Or if

Linda Gross:

there's a threat, or an emergency or whatever that you I

Linda Gross:

mean, here in California, we're prone to earthquakes. If an

Linda Gross:

earthquake happens, I don't want the guy to be running under the

Linda Gross:

table scared like a little mouse. It's like I want him to

Linda Gross:

say, here's what we're gonna do. Let's Let's run to I tell my

Linda Gross:

family Let's run to the bathroom because the bathroom is the

Linda Gross:

safest place in the house. Because of all the pipes and

Linda Gross:

whatever the whole house can fall down, but of all the pipes,

Linda Gross:

that broom is gonna stand. So that's where we go. But anyway,

Linda Gross:

you want someone to help you out of danger. Unfortunately, the

Linda Gross:

guy that's got the tabs, riding the motorcycles is the bad guy

Linda Gross:

somehow, you know, they already have that confidence gene. So

Linda Gross:

it's not that we want a bad boy. It's just that they have the

Linda Gross:

quality that we're looking for. So you as a good guy need to

Linda Gross:

develop that quality too. So I spend a good part at least a

Linda Gross:

third of the Talking about how do you build confidence? Because

Linda Gross:

a lot of guys don't have confidence.

Howard Brown:

Yeah, no, I, they don't want to admit it, but they

Howard Brown:

don't. And that's, that's important. Let me ask you, this

Howard Brown:

is a little bit of a, just it just came to me in this. And

Howard Brown:

I've been married for, you know, 20 and a half years, this whole

Howard Brown:

swiping right swiping left online dating thing, which you

Howard Brown:

have a something, you know, a device in front of you, before

Howard Brown:

you actually get to meet now, does that change some of the

Howard Brown:

equation of your studies? Or is it just amplify what you've

Howard Brown:

already know? Because I mean, some of my friends that now are

Howard Brown:

divorced, and they're basically swiping right swiping, right,

Howard Brown:

and then you wait for someone to contact you. You know, it's a

Howard Brown:

little artificial to me. But that's the world we live in. We

Howard Brown:

live in a digital connected age and things like that. Any

Howard Brown:

comments on swiping, right, and Tinder and all those apps?

Linda Gross:

Well, the only problem with that is you're

Linda Gross:

making 50% of the 50% of the population do something that is

Linda Gross:

not not inherently biological. So this works for men. And guess

Linda Gross:

what? Those engineering platforms were devised and built

Linda Gross:

by men to swipe right, right. The reason why that is, is

Linda Gross:

because men are turned on by pictures. Women are not turned

Linda Gross:

on by by pictures, women are turned on auditorially like,

Linda Gross:

what do you say to them? But see, the men who are in Silicon

Linda Gross:

Valley, they don't know this, they didn't take that class. So

Linda Gross:

they they made this programme that suits them that it's best

Linda Gross:

for them. So now you're taking women 50% of the population, who

Linda Gross:

are not turned on by pictures to get them to go with the flow

Linda Gross:

with something that's good for you, but not for me. It's

Howard Brown:

fascinating, fascinating. We do live in a in

Howard Brown:

a very soundbite video sample world of influencers, and, you

Howard Brown:

know, showing skin and only fans and even online porn and all

Howard Brown:

that stuff. I know it. So but yeah, so men visually and women

Howard Brown:

more with auditory will, the feeling. Okay, I appreciate

Howard Brown:

that. So, so all of a sudden, if, you know a guy finally

Howard Brown:

lands, lands, lands a woman or a girl, and all of a sudden, then

Howard Brown:

it's like bees on honey, why is he more attractive?

Linda Gross:

Because it's kind of like a sixth sense. Women can

Linda Gross:

sense okay, that you're with this girl. And they take a look

Linda Gross:

at her at the restaurant, you know, from afar, or whatever.

Linda Gross:

And she's kind of cute, whatever. And so you are

Linda Gross:

available to date. So that's why they try to take that female

Linda Gross:

away from you. They want to they want to take her place, because

Linda Gross:

they know that you are now dateable you're now relationship

Linda Gross:

material. They don't have to go through the 20 questions. And in

Linda Gross:

the month of dating, they already know this answer. So

Linda Gross:

they want to swoop in, push her to the side. They want to be the

Linda Gross:

next Mrs. Brown.

Howard Brown:

Well, Mrs. Brown has already spoken. That's,

Howard Brown:

that's great. And what? So tell me like, now all of a sudden,

Howard Brown:

you've got the data out there. And, you know, what are some of

Howard Brown:

your most give me a little bit some highlights or some exciting

Howard Brown:

things that that have come like certain guests you've talked to

Howard Brown:

and, you know, cool, cool situations, many movie stars

Howard Brown:

coming to talk to you about, you know, this or just kind of

Howard Brown:

thinking outside the box here. We're just Yeah,

Linda Gross:

I do. I haven't had a movie star. But I would say

Linda Gross:

the you know, I'm a, I'm oops, this way the men's advocate,

Linda Gross:

right. I support men's rights and Men's Fitness, Men's Health,

Linda Gross:

you know, any anything to do with men's interest I support

Linda Gross:

and probably my parallel person I had him on as a guest, Dr.

Linda Gross:

Warren Farrell, so I don't know, he's like, you know, worldwide

Linda Gross:

name and, you know, has multiple books out as well. And he

Linda Gross:

started being the president of no w the, the chapter for, you

Linda Gross:

know, women's groups. And then he realised after four or five

Linda Gross:

years that you know, women didn't stand for nice things.

Linda Gross:

It's like, and, and I kind of concur with that, that you

Linda Gross:

cannot have a female liberation or enlightenment to the

Linda Gross:

detriment of men. Like if you're gonna enlightened, you got to

Linda Gross:

enlightened both sexes, not just, you know, women are up

Linda Gross:

here and men are down here that that doesn't work. And that's,

Linda Gross:

that's typically what's been going on for the last few

Linda Gross:

decades that men are men, you know, you know, they're making

Linda Gross:

you guys to be cavemen and idiots and stupid and you can't

Linda Gross:

do anything and women should take over and, you know, women

Linda Gross:

are smarter and this and that and the other. I'm all for

Linda Gross:

women's empowerment. But like I say, I would have liked to have

Linda Gross:

seen that we uplift both sexes, and that didn't happen. So

Linda Gross:

that's why I'm an advocate because I don't like injustice

Linda Gross:

like that.

Howard Brown:

Yeah, no, I absolutely. Listen, I understand

Howard Brown:

that. From diversity inclusion, I come from an entrepreneurial

Howard Brown:

background. women owned businesses are actually less

Howard Brown:

funded to know only 2% instead of 97%. So there's inequities in

Howard Brown:

the system. So there's things that have to be much improved on

Howard Brown:

that pay scale. I have to tell you, the women's soccer team,

Howard Brown:

national soccer team getting paid the same as men. I mean,

Howard Brown:

amen. Finally happened that that's this is all overdue time.

Howard Brown:

So I don't want you to come across as that I like that all

Howard Brown:

boats can rise. But let's not forget about you know, men's

Howard Brown:

rights as well, as well. And that's what you're saying, I

Howard Brown:

believe. Yeah. Well, tell me a little bit more about some, some

Howard Brown:

of this business consulting that you're doing. What are some of

Howard Brown:

the projects that you're up against?

Linda Gross:

Yeah, I've been doing live coaching since 2007,

Linda Gross:

life coaching kind of entailed, you know, personal matters,

Linda Gross:

dating, relationships, things like that. But I kind of shifted

Linda Gross:

my focus, I still do that. But I shifted the dominant focus to

Linda Gross:

now over the last few years to do business consulting. So I

Linda Gross:

help CEOs and entrepreneurs who already have a business. First

Linda Gross:

of all, we start with their back end issues, and they could be

Linda Gross:

issues like pilferage employee turnover, supply chain could be

Linda Gross:

legal issues, maybe they're getting sued by somebody and

Linda Gross:

they need legal help. Maybe they have stockholder issues, all

Linda Gross:

these sorts of things, right. So we solve those problems first,

Linda Gross:

and then we scale their business. So scaling their

Linda Gross:

business could be anything from adding new employees, adding new

Linda Gross:

skews, meaning new products, adding more locations, or just

Linda Gross:

you know, overall, increasing, you know, the, the dollar amount

Linda Gross:

of their company, the dollar worth of their company. So,

Linda Gross:

yeah, I really enjoy that I get clients from all over the world.

Linda Gross:

And it's so exciting because each client is so different. And

Linda Gross:

it's, it's so challenging, and so fun, and it's just really an

Linda Gross:

amazing feeling to be their mentor and I see them so

Linda Gross:

downtrodden with an ashen face, you know, the first day I meet

Linda Gross:

them and then by the second or third visit the second or third

Linda Gross:

session, it's like they're glowing, they're they're

Linda Gross:

bouncing off the ceiling because they've implemented some of the

Linda Gross:

suggestions that I've asked asked of them. And it's just so

Linda Gross:

very rewarding. I love it to pieces.

Howard Brown:

Yeah, I know it sounds exciting that you've

Howard Brown:

ventured off into that and and all your research just helps

Howard Brown:

accelerate it and add to what you've been able to do and

Howard Brown:

getting you know this project. So again, Linda, that you've

Howard Brown:

actually you know, spoke to 20,000 men and compile that

Howard Brown:

information and then wrote the book and and are out there as a

Howard Brown:

men's advocate. I don't know too many other women that are that

Howard Brown:

that take that leadership role. So I'm so I've been so thrilled

Howard Brown:

to meet you. So I'm gonna put my sunglasses on right now.

Howard Brown:

Alright, for those that are listening, I have my white gold

Howard Brown:

shiny sunglasses and I'm putting you Linda gross on the shining

Howard Brown:

brightly spotlight to tell people how they can get in touch

Howard Brown:

with you what your free gift is and then give me some closing

Howard Brown:

exciting comments to close out the show.

Linda Gross:

Well, if you want tips on the men's advocate show

Linda Gross:

the podcast you can go to the men's advocate.com The men's

Linda Gross:

advocate.com We're on all the the podcasting platforms

Linda Gross:

Spotify, SoundCloud, tune in iTunes, they were all there. So

Linda Gross:

yeah, that's how you can find me. And if you need more

Linda Gross:

information on the business consulting, I do that 290 Day

Linda Gross:

biz blueprint 90 Day biz blueprint, just like it sounds.

Linda Gross:

So

Howard Brown:

yeah. What about the C factor?

Linda Gross:

Yes. Now the C factor is a little ebook that I

Linda Gross:

wrote on business like how to ask for a favour how to get what

Linda Gross:

you want, when you don't know the right people to move up.

Linda Gross:

Let's say you have a big ask right? And you don't know the

Linda Gross:

right person or the right thing to say I'm going to tell you the

Linda Gross:

right thing to say. So just write to me. info at the men's

Linda Gross:

advocate.com info at the men's advocate.com Say that you heard

Linda Gross:

me on Howard show and I'll send you that eBook for free.

Howard Brown:

Wow, this is incredible. What a fun show

Howard Brown:

Linda Thank you So it's um Howard Brown and you can find me

Howard Brown:

on shining brightly.com for my book for booking me for any type

Howard Brown:

of stages and speaking platforms and and also my my podcast as

Howard Brown:

well which will be syndicated out and I'm just having a blast

Howard Brown:

getting to talk to really interesting cool people and why

Howard Brown:

it's best to date like a caveman Linda, thank you what a great

Howard Brown:

show. I my audience is gonna love it. I wish you the best.

Howard Brown:

And we'll keep trying to make make it happen out there and

Howard Brown:

shine brightly every single day for ourselves, for others and

Howard Brown:

for our communities. It does make the world a better place.

Howard Brown:

Thank you.

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