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How To Connect With Your Feminine Energy with Heather Allison
Episode 12717th January 2023 • Am I Doing This Right? • Corinne Foxx and Natalie McMillan
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Corinne Foxx - @corinnefoxx

Natalie McMillan - @nataliemcm and @shopnataliemcmillan 

What we're drinking: Taste Nirvana Coconut Water 

MEET OUR GUEST: 

Heather Allison - @iamheatherallison and primordialfeminine.com


ABOUT OUR GUEST: 

Heather Allison is a digital creator and she's here to be your guide into your own divine feminine energy so that you can live your most aligned, powerful, and pleasurable life. She teaches courses and does one-on-one coaching for people wanting to lean into their feminine energy and to use it to enhance their lives, whether that be in relationships, at work, or beyond. 


TOPIC: 

Heather joins us on today’s episode to talk about what the divine feminine is, tools to reconnect with your intuition, and modalities for exploring esoteric teachings. She shares the story of her spiritual awakening and how her life has transformed since discovering the world of energetics. Heather breaks down the signs of over-masculinization and rituals that you can incorporate into your daily life to slow down and tune into your inner-knowing. 


In this episode, we discuss:

  • Why it’s actually beneficial to sometimes feel lost or like you’re in a void space 
  • The difference between feminine energy and femininity 
  • Four archetypes that make up our energy patterns as humans 
  • The three main pillars of the sacred feminine 
  • How can you begin to honor and cultivate your connection with feminine energy
  • Heather’s interpretation of mystery teachings and schools 


RESOURCES: 

Archetypal Grid 


END OF THE SHOW: 

Corinne and Natalie introduce Hottie of the Week: Stanley Tucci 


DRINK RATING:

Taste Nirvana Coconut Water  = 8 / Stanley


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To wrap up the episode, Corinne and Natalie play 200 Questions. Corinne asks Nat for a rundown on her childhood pets and Nat asks Corinne what movie universe she’d like to live in. 


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Corinne Foxx:

Welcome back to another episode of am I doing this right? I'm Corinne Foxx.

Natalie McMillan:

And I'm Natalie McMillan

Corinne Foxx:

and we are best friends confidants millennials, and the hosts of am I doing this right? A life how to podcast from the perspective of non experts.

Natalie McMillan:

And each week we cover a new topic and we drink a new beverage,

Corinne Foxx:

beverage of choice. And this week, I'm so excited because Natalie and I have been trying to secure this episode for so long, like years, years. So we are talking how to connect with your femininity. With Heather Allison, we really felt like we needed an expert on here, someone who works in this field, and we're going to be talking to Heather about what is the divine femininity? How to Activate your feminine energy. And what the mystery is. If you guys were like, What is the mystery?

Natalie McMillan:

We don't know you're either we're gonna ask we are totally going to she has something about the mystery that I am very

Corinne Foxx:

Yeah, she talks about the mystery. And it's like, what? There's a mystery about mystery.

Natalie McMillan:

I know. I know.

Corinne Foxx:

They'll stick around, you'll die. And at the end of the episode, we are playing 200 questions, so even more fun. I know. I think we played it for a while. Yeah. So I'm very excited. And I'm excited to see what we're drinking. Oh, yes. With Heather.

Natalie McMillan:

With Miss Heather. Okay, let's get into my big bag of stuff. Okay, let's do this one. This one feels

Corinne Foxx:

like feminine feminine energy. I was just really struggling just now to say femininity femininity. It

Natalie McMillan:

is really like I could not say that five times fast.

Corinne Foxx:

femininity. Femininity femininity. Oh, I can actually say Yeah, wow, that's weird. femininity.

Natalie McMillan:

femininity. Femininity was just oh, maybe it is easier than I thought.

Corinne Foxx:

It feels like it should be hard when I'm saying it. I'm scared. Like I'm not gonna get that minute in there. Yeah, yeah.

Natalie McMillan:

Yeah. Okay, so this is taste nirvana. Premium coconut water. Oh, yes. You know, there's 5 billion coconut waters, and they all taste different, I swear. Yeah. And they actually they really do taste different. I love coconut water. Some of them I love and some of them I hate.

Corinne Foxx:

Okay, well, we're gonna find out if this is either either or.

Natalie McMillan:

This one is and tastes Nirvana seems, you know, feminine.

Corinne Foxx:

I was driving and I realized that I wanted to share something on the podcast that I don't know if you know about me. Oh, interest. You might know. I might say like Khurana I know a horse huh, sorry. We just took a sip of the coconut water. Did you know that I did a pageant?

Natalie McMillan:

I don't think so. Yeah, I was

Corinne Foxx:

driving it. I had a you know, you have a flash of your child and you're like, holy shit. I blocked that out. Yeah, I did pageant when I was 12 years old.

Natalie McMillan:

Oh, yeah. What was the like? Because you know, pageants are very rare in California. Oh, they are? Oh, very. Really? Oh my god. Yeah. pageants are like huge in this house. Oh, like, if you were living in Texas, you're probably like, yeah, duh. We've all done a pageant. Oh, we California. I don't know anybody who was in a pageant. Well, you don't now you do. I did know somebody that was from Minnesota that did a pageant and then moved to California.

Corinne Foxx:

I did a pageant when I was well, we got a letter in the mail. And it was like a like a like, hey, sign your daughter up mom. And I literally looked at each other. We're like, why not? So I had no experience in pageantry. I did not know that girls had been doing this since they were four years old. Right? So my mom and I drive to like friggin Anaheim Convention Center, we get a dress an evening gown. Why we're doing this, we both don't know. We're like fun just for funsies. And of course, we tell my dad like currency to Patrick. My dad was like, he literally was like, What the fuck is going on? He was so passed, but he had to come. And I had to have a special talent, right? But again, I'm not training. This is like, right, I'm a normal child, right? You're gonna have to go on stage in front of all these people and do a talent. So I thought what can I do? And I thought, well, I can kind of do accents. So everyone else is doing hula hoops everyone else is doing. You know your little. What is it? The the water? Oh, whatever. They all have their talent. Uh huh. What I do is I go Hello, my name is Corrine Fox. And I will be doing accents. Hey, y'all. My name is Graham. I'm not kidding.

Natalie McMillan:

Is there any footage of there's no footage, no photos.

Corinne Foxx:

I have my pageant entry photo. Where like how I submitted I flipped my hair out on the ends very pageant like up. Well yeah, I just I kind of had this gear like traumatic flash where I was like, oh my god, I get a pageant and oh my god, I went on stage and did accent Instead of 12 year old was like, no everybody, like British and then everyone was like, oh, but like live play tried out of 60 Girls 12 so bad I took that as a win. What do you win? We will get like a robot first I get a crown. You know a sash. I didn't make it, but I made it to the semifinals. And I was like, wow, my first pageant.

Natalie McMillan:

And did you think I should keep doing this?

Corinne Foxx:

I kind of thought like, maybe I've got it in me if I can get to 12 but I did not consider you're on that path. And it's

Natalie McMillan:

okay for the mess. Okay. Wow. I didn't even know they really did pageants in California. Well, they did. The Anaheim Convention Center. Make sense?

Corinne Foxx:

Yeah. It was definitely in Orange County, for sure. Yeah. But anyways, I just felt like I was like, wow, I

Natalie McMillan:

want I don't know if Natalie knows this about me. You know, What's so weird is there was something I was thinking about the other day, and I was like,

Corinne Foxx:

I don't think Corinne knows what it will now I can't remember. I can't remember. But I was driving to the mall. I barely remembered that about myself. Which is why I knew you didn't know that about me. Because I was like, I have locked this away. Yeah,

Natalie McMillan:

no, you have never never brought that one up. Yeah, I can't remember what it was. But there was if I think about it, I will tell you.

Corinne Foxx:

What's crazy, is that there's just so much from our childhood that we have suppressed. I know. And you're like, you can't even so many things aren't motivated by photos. The fact that I don't have a photo of this is why I didn't remember it because I don't see like, wow, there's my budget photo. Like, we don't have photos

Natalie McMillan:

from that. No, no, it's pure memory. It is weird too, though, like, I will have random flashbacks to weird, like, like weird moments where I'm like, what, like, and then um, is that a? I don't know what that is? Do you ever

Corinne Foxx:

smell something? And you're like, you're like, Oh, yeah. But like, you can't even like sometimes I'll be walking and I'll be like, Oh my god, I'm on my third grade playground again. Yes. What? Yeah. And then I like when I come back. I know it or like, I'm like in my classroom in first grade. And then I'm back.

Natalie McMillan:

I know. I can actually I can kind of smell my first grade classroom if I think about it. And I can like also feel, feel it the textures. Oh of it, like a crayon, of like everything in that room. You know,

Corinne Foxx:

you know how they say that you can experience what something would be like to lick it?

Natalie McMillan:

Yes. Every single thing. It's so true. So true. iving the

Corinne Foxx:

other day was so dangerous. I was like, Oh my God, I know exactly what it's like to like that stop.

Natalie McMillan:

Sorry. Oh, my God. Okay, I'm so glad you do that. Because I do that all the time. Like, I'll be like, I know exactly like, what this was everything. Why is that? I don't know what the tastes like. But I know. Well, I

Corinne Foxx:

actually I kind of tune away. I know what that would take.

Natalie McMillan:

Yeah, me too. And I wouldn't know what a stop sign tastes like. Yeah. Weird.

Corinne Foxx:

Oh, Heather, Heather, God,

Natalie McMillan:

who? We did a diversion. Sorry. Okay. Well, let me give her a little introduction, producer. So Heather Allison is a digital creator. And she's here to be your guide into your own divine feminine energies so that you can live your most aligned powerful and pleasurable life. She teaches courses and does one on one coaching for people wanting to lean into their feminine energy and to use it to enhance their lives, whether that be in relationships at work, or just in general. And also I will say I do not believe we're going to clarify with her, but I do not believe that this is just pertaining to women. No feminine energy.

Corinne Foxx:

Mask, I believe we will ask her. So let's,

Corinne Foxx:

let's go say hello. Hey, Heather. Hi, Heather.

Heather Allison:

Thanks so much for having me. I'm so excited. Oh, my gosh,

Corinne Foxx:

we are so excited. We were saying at the top of the episode, we've been wanting to do an episode on femininity, which we also said like five times fast. For a while now and we just wanted to find like the right person to speak on it. Because I do you think it's something that? I don't know, maybe as we're just getting older, like want to lean more into or learn more about or Yeah, even define for ourselves. And so we're so excited to have you and we're so excited about the work that you do.

Natalie McMillan:

Yes, yeah. And I think feminine energy too. Like, it's so easily misconstrued.

Heather Allison:

So much. So yeah, so

Natalie McMillan:

I think we're super excited to talk to you about all of this, all of that all of it. But I want to just ask straight out the gate. So you had a spiritual awakening when you were 40. Yeah, so can you tell us about that? Because obviously, that's what brought you to where you are now. So how did that happen? And what did your life look like before? spiritually? Yes,

Heather Allison:

yeah. Yeah, well It was a surprise. And then it also like looking back now I can kind of see certain threads if like, oh, okay, so that kind of makes sense now, but my life was super just like basic. I mean, that sounds I know, we use that term as kind of an insult. But it was really basic I just was, you know, doing what I do, I graduated from college, I got jobs, tried to find the ones that like fit and couldn't find any jobs that fit. I also, I was married for a while. And that was super, super, super toxic and damaging and very much like lost every part of who I was in that marriage, dating after that, and trying to find, you know, the right relationship. And I just kept not finding it. I had some really beautiful relationships after that, but nothing seemed to kind of be it, you know, the thing. And I remember, I was just really frustrated, because I was about, like, 37. And, or somewhere around there, maybe even a little bit later. And I was just like, What in the world? Am I getting wrong about this? Like, what kind of like near your podcasts are like, Am I doing this? What am I not doing right? That I'm not getting this right, you know, and I did some of that kind of desperate googling that you do. And you're like, just, I need to find something. And that's when I actually found the thread. It was like the first time I'd ever heard anything about, you know, feminine energy and masculine energy. And like, What even is this, and I stumbled upon a woman who taught like, love life stuff, relationship stuff, and through that lens, and it really just spoke to me in some way. And so I, I started exploring, and then I explored, it started exploring deeper, because I started feeling the changes that were happening in my life and in my relationships, and I signed up for her coach training, because I was just like, I just want all the information, I didn't think I was going to do anything with it, I just wanted it for me. And about six months after that, or probably like eight months after I started, that is when I have this really massive spiritual awakening kind of out of nowhere. But now I know that the feminine is actually well, a couple of things were so over masculinized people are in general. And so a lot of us have forgotten much of what she governs, or at least have lost touch with it and have or fear it or resistant or what have you. And, and so I know that one of the things that she governs is our channel our intuition. And so it's actually not as a surprise to me at all, now that I had this spiritual awakening kind of on the heels of really diving into this work. And so that training was was around like, being a love coach, if you will, like relationship coach, that really, really quickly after that, after having my profound spiritual awakening, I started getting more and more information about like, it's not just that kind of relationship, it's not just our romantic kind of relationship, it's our relationship with literally everything, with life, with ourselves, with our emotions, with, with each other with nature, with the universe with like, all of the things with our power. So that's kind of how the work expanded from there. And so it absolutely did take me, bring me to where I am now. And it's become the core of the work that I offer now is based on everything I experienced in that.

Corinne Foxx:

Wow, I feel like we have so many. We have a lot of guests that come on the podcast, and it's a lot of where they are today came from this place of being lost, confused, like not knowing what they're gonna do next. And then something happens that clicks for them. And it completely changes the trajectory of their lives. And I always find I always love hearing those kinds of stories, because I think it's so inspiring to people who are in that place right now. Like, I don't know, am I doing this? Right? You listen to this podcast. And it's really hopeful. Because, you know, you'd had no idea that this was lying ahead of you, right? Like, this wasn't something you were tapped into or new. And so I think it's, it's really inspiring that this is where life has headed to. And I think we're getting a

Heather Allison:

feeling lost get a bad rap. Yeah, really, you know, it's, it's, it's so necessary, it kind of creates that fertile soil for being able to, to find things and choose things that you wouldn't normally, you know, if everything was quote, unquote, working, you just kind of keep doing it and keep repeating the things that you're already doing when you feel lost, or when you're in that void space, as I call it, like, you're much more willing to kind of try things that are beyond your scope of understanding already or beyond the scope of like, what makes sense. You're kind of like, okay, so maybe it's something like this. I mean, I didn't have like a, like, I didn't have any designs on being a coach at all, I just kind of was like, Well, this is sort of feeling different. So I want to have more information about this. And that very much came from that. That feeling of being lost and not really knowing where I'm going. It was like Kay, I'm just gonna try this. Then from that that's so such a fertile place of creation where we're willing to kind of start walking in different form of paths. So I think it's actually really important those spaces

Corinne Foxx:

100% I totally, totally agree. I'm curious about like, what was your definition of femininity before you really started to study and what does it look like now because again, like Natalie was saying, there is a lot of misconceptions about like, what, what is femininity and then what You What do you define it as now?

Heather Allison:

Yeah, I mean, I think my assumption about it before was just kind of what this culture what our, what our world in general has, has defined it as, which is like behaviors and traits that are that we've like, somewhat for some reason agreed belong to being a woman, you know, like, are indicative of being a woman, and agreeable, pleasant. Yeah, all kinds of things like even like what chores you do in the household, or like what hobbies you have, or what what you how you wear your hair or like, the clothes that you wear or anything like that. And it's such a limiting and limited definition of I mean, I guess I'll just say this, the term femininity is actually not one that I use in my work at all. Um, I consider that to actually be just that definition of these are what we assume you should be like, if you identify as a woman. And if you don't, then you should be identified. You know, it's kind of the the limitation that a lot of the the like, only binary people, okay, do you know what I'm saying? Like, if you're not a woman, then you should identify and behave and act and look like a man and there's no room for you know, it's really limiting the box that they they're trying to put us in? Yeah, for me feminine energy is a completely different thing. Yeah, yeah. So it has nothing to do with what we look like it has nothing to do with what we wear, or how we do any, like, the chores that we do, the hobbies that we have, like, it's really nothing surface at all, nothing apparent at all, it's really more of the energetics underneath. And we have every single one of us humans, I don't care if you identify how you identify whether it's binary or non binary, you have both, we all have both. And so they're really like, you know, diving straight into the deep end. But they're, they're archetypes that make up our, our energy patterns as humans, if that makes sense. So it really has nothing to do with the traditional like, I don't use that word femininity at all. Does that make sense? Wow. No, it

Corinne Foxx:

totally makes sense.

Natalie McMillan:

So So you're saying both as in masculine and feminine energy? Can you dive into all have what some examples of each of those things are?

17:08

Yeah. And have a I have a chart that you if you I don't know, if you do shown Oh, yeah. Oh, we will have the show notes. Remind me and I'll send it to you. Okay, hold my call it my archetypal grid, but basically the misconception as I've received it, and when I say that interesting, like, intuitively, like my guides have taught me and my how you bet, that the misconceptions are basically that there are only Well, let me let me back up. This archetypal grid shows our sacred feminine and sacred masculine traits, and then our wounded, feminine and wounded, masculine traits. So it's not even just about feminine and masculine. It's actually about there. They're kind of like four different versions of these energetics, right. And so it's really like a refinement into out of the wounded aspects and into the sacred aspects so that they can do their dance together within us, and within our relationships, and within our relationship with the divine, if that makes sense. But some examples are like sacred feminine, are a lot more to do with internal things, invisible things, things that you can't, like, logically plot out on a spreadsheet, things that you can't

Corinne Foxx:

like intuition. Would you say that? Yeah, I

Heather Allison:

actually talked about that, or her having kind of like three main pillars, so I always call it like, emotion, sensation and intuition. Yeah. And so it's really like, all of the invisible realms, she governs all of the invisible realms, whether that's, you know, the, like, our guides, or our intuition, or our emotions, because those are not something that we can see. Right? Like they're they're of the invisible as well sensations. Because again, we can't see sensations but we feel them. So things that are felt things that are just known on a much deeper level, like more like deeper wisdom within us, things that are sensed, all those kinds of things, but she's also things like intimacy, and love and connection, receptivity issues. Like I said, she's kind of internal, right? So where the masculine would be more external things like, you know, action taking and decisiveness and you know, discernment between things or what have you, like, really, like he's more singular and external, and she's more ineffable. undefinable. And internal, if that makes sense. Yeah, you know,

Corinne Foxx:

you said something earlier. I'm so curious about you said that, like, we are over masculinized Yeah. And I'm curious how much of that you think is contributed to like American culture, and kind of that go getter? Mindset, every man for himself kind of mindset that Americans have, as opposed to like, I Fran Yeah, like Europeans. And that kind of I just curious if you see a correlation there.

Heather Allison:

Absolutely. And I mean, I think it's more than just America too. Right. But yeah, it's very, very prevalent here. Yeah, but I agree with you. There are things that other cultures prioritize that we don't anymore things like beauty, and I don't mean like, you know, The kind of beauty that you're being sold hair products and cosmetics and, you know, Botox and all that shit. I'm talking like capital be beauty like the beautiful nature of things, the beautiful nature of nature. Do you know what I'm saying? That kind of Yeti simplicity grew? Yeah, yeah, the sacred, like I said things that are governed kind of by the invisible, right the Why would we bother with the invisible here, it doesn't make sense it doesn't fit into a nine to five workday it doesn't you know what I'm saying we can't make money off of the invisible or what have you those kinds of things. So I think we, we So prioritize things in this country, and then just kind of the commodified world, if you will, that are that have more of an effect on the bottom line that we can control. That's the bottom line, really, anything that we can control and have control over, is prioritized here are things that you can't, it's D prioritized, right? So we always prioritize logic, we prioritize what makes sense, what we can prove, we prioritize what has an exacting outcome, the ROI on whatever it is, prioritize getting more done achieving more like all of these things that are in the the wounded masculine, the things that are like, yeah, achievement pushing for, like forcing things to happen, having control, all kinds of things like that. So it's really, really prevalent here. And, and that's my, my perception of the world in general is that we've all been, I joke around about it, because I've received that the, you know, there are multiple chakra systems as I've received it, but one, the archetypal one for me is our upper three chakras are masculine, our lower three chakras are feminine, and then the heart space is like the, the creator archetype, or it's the the union of the two, if that makes sense. And we've kind of we all walk around like, squeeze like toothpaste tubes, as I call it. So we're all working from our heads and what makes sense, what should I do? What's that person doing? Maybe that's the example of what I should be doing? What's the most logical choice to be making? What's that, you know, that's kind of how we live our lives. Or even like, you know, the slogans that are so prevalent in our culture, like, just do it like, yeah, there's just no prioritization of her. There's no prioritization of the the more invisible things than the more internal things in this world.

Natalie McMillan:

Yeah, well, it also makes me as you were speaking about that, I was like, I wonder if this is why everyone's so anxious all the time. You know, because it's all of the stuff that you can't control. We're so anxious of the things that we can't control. And it's hard to be like I relinquish control. And maybe that is just being a lot more in tune with the masculine or the feminine.

Heather Allison:

Well, yeah, and when you're so removed from the invisible world, right, so that like, guides your soul, any form of divinity, any form of there's something bigger than just the machine, right that like, if I do x and x, x, y, and z, then I will reach this outcome. If when you lose connection with that, then there is only the the perception, only the assumption that it is what you do. And that's it. Do you know what I'm saying? Like we lose all semblance of miracle at all of support that is in the invisible realms of magic of like there being some bigger reason and bigger. Something bigger at play, if that makes sense. So then it feels like how lonely right? Yeah, it's just me, it's just me and what I do here. And so yeah, then it's like, then you can see how it snowballs, like, well, I have to get this right, then, am I doing this right? I have to get this right, when I'm not doing this right, then I'm gonna fail or it's gonna fall apart, or I'm gonna, you know, like, I'm gonna get it all wrong. Like, the really existential fear underneath that is, I'm going to waste my life, I'm not going to do what my soul came here to do. Yeah. And so it is this, it is literally our separation from our forgetting of the feminine that has us feeling so alone, and so afraid and so incapable of like, knowing that we're doing the right thing, and so incapable of finding and feeling our alignment. If all that makes sense. There's something else I wanted to say, too. Oh, I love that you brought up anxiety. So for me, anxiety is like, the core energetic of it is we're afraid to feel something. And so it's like, it's like this. No, I can't, I can't feel that. And so there's this like, I don't, you know, we feel like we can't be with that feeling or that emotion. And that comes from our feminine, which is our lower body. So again, we're like, right, that's kind of how we feel when we're anxious. Our shoulders go up, our throat gets tight. Like we don't feel like we're breathing deeply enough. And so you're spot on with that.

Corinne Foxx:

So if we have people listening, and even me, I feel like I'm really a lot more in touch, probably with my masculine side than my feminine energy. How can we begin to like, honor and cultivate that connection with that feminine energy in the new year?

Heather Allison:

Yeah. For me, that's really, I mean, it's kind of like what we've been talking about. It's like, can you more intentionally Can you give more Our attention and intention to those things that don't live in the linear realm, if that makes sense, like the things that, well, this is what everyone else is doing, or this is what makes most sense, or this is what you know, how I can see this happening, or how I can see this unfolding or what the plan is, or whatever. So like, you know, the invisible things, the nonlinear things, the the things that are just outside of what you can perfectly make sense of, or that you are outside just outside of what you have proof of already. So, you know, like we said, like emotion, sensation and intuition. Can you prioritize those things a little bit more? Can you intentionally take time to connect with those things a little bit more? Can you go? Can you get a little deeper into your body? Right? If we're talking about the lower three chakras? Can you spend more time being with the lower half of your body? Which sounds so kind of trite, but it's, we just don't do that? Why would we bother do that? Unless we're having sex? And then then then we are but you know what I'm saying. Other than that, we're really just focused on thought, on logic, and all of that. Pay attention to your dreams, pay attention to your sensations in your body, how often are we listening to our body? Very little? Right? Like the little subtle things that happen? Like where I'm like, I don't know why, but I'm feeling a tingle in my you know,

Corinne Foxx:

yeah, my, my entire bright arm the other day just went cold. And I was like, what is that?

Heather Allison:

Yeah, yeah, ran, and the more you are in relationship with those things, just out of a place of curiosity, like, what could that be, and then, you know, I love to, there's all kinds of like, body language and somatic language out there that you can start playing with, but see, like, for me, the right side of the body is masculine, and the left side of the body is feminine. And so you know, we can kind of just start to, to create a dialogue with some of the things that are going on. Like, if you have a tingling in your, you know, the back of your neck, what might that mean for you, even if it's not a, you know, based on anybody else's, like symbolism, but like, what might that mean for you and just start cultivating a language or with your dreams? Like, what might that mean for you? What might that be saying to you, you know, the wisdom that we carry within, but it's also things that are a little bit more real, real world to like, sewing down? Yeah, you know, intimacy, whether that's with ourselves or with somebody else, or with the work that we're doing, or the things that we're doing or, you know, stillness. A big one would be like, can you cultivate more sacredness in your life, whatever that means to you? And it doesn't have to be my definition. But what might that mean? What might that look like? Because she's, she's always going to be inviting us into the more sacred, she's always going to be inviting us into more depth, she's always going to be inviting us into more things that we like, don't, that we just can't put on a spreadsheet and, you know, make perfect sense of so anything in there.

Natalie McMillan:

So what's something like? What's like an everyday thing that some of our listeners could maybe put into practice? To sort of start feeling into, like, their feminine energy? Would meditation

Corinne Foxx:

be something? Yeah, that

Heather Allison:

was gonna be my first. Yeah. Especially prioritizing it. Right. So one of the things that that I noticed in my clients, because that's one of the first things I give them as homework is to create like a morning practice, because you're prioritizing it, right? There's a, there's a symbolic and alchemical thing that happens when you're saying, I have enough time to spread out, I have enough time for myself before I start giving to others, I have enough time to slow down. Because then you're saying there is time, right? Like all of these things that are silent messages, like silence statements that we're making to the world, if that makes sense into ourselves into our bodies. It's like, I have spaciousness and time to give to myself before I start giving outside of me. But yeah, having any kind of meditation or morning practice, but like when we're trying to squeeze it in, in the afternoon, because I forgot to do it. And then we're just making it another thing on the to do list. Yeah. And then we're not prioritizing it. We're just kind of yet again, trying to slot it into where it seems like it's going to be the most productive part, you know, yeah,

Corinne Foxx:

totally, totally

Heather Allison:

productivity. Other things are like yin yoga, if you're familiar with yin yoga, I'm not. It's really beautiful. It's the more feminine form of yoga where like Hatha and other things are more masculine, because they're more active and more outward and more heat building in yoga is, is more about your connective tissues and your muscles. So it's like finding and they have all kinds of poses you can find. So it's like, finding a beautiful, really soft and gentle pose that actually is about lengthening and spin and adding fluid to your connective tissues. And you hold it for like five minutes. Because it's so soft, and so gentle. And so it creates all this opening in places that you don't really think about opening, if that makes sense. Some other things that I love are like, as I start doing it, like just some platonic self touch, as they call it. So it's like if you take time to just touch your body but not in a way that's like, because I'm trying to get anywhere trying to, you know, have an orgasm or anything like that, but just really spending time with like, intentionally and compassionately touching your body is a really beautiful practice. Other things are like, you know, start letting yourself tap into your more intuitive nature and your deeper wisdom. Even if you don't think that you have it. I guarantee you you do. I have so many women who come into this work thinking that they don't. And then it's like, and things start opening.

Corinne Foxx:

Yeah. And then obviously, you have courses. And this is something that, you know, like, if someone's listening, and they really, really want to explore this work. I mean, you offer so many different ways to work with you, which is amazing. I'm curious, because one thing when we were looking you up that we we really wanted to ask you about is the mystery, the mystery. Yes. How you says how it's at the source of what humans crave. So can you explain what the mystery is? And what your mystery school as an the whole concept of, like Mystery Schools?

Heather Allison:

Yeah, yes, I love that question. So traditionally, it's so the term Mystery School is a very old one. And it basically stems back to esoteric lineages like esoteric teachings, you know, schools that taught esoteric wisdom, spiritual wisdom, spiritual practice, spiritual connection, that kind of thing. Energy mastery, magic, like you name it, because there's a bunch of different lineages, right. Some of them were more spiritual, like on the religious side, and some of them were more like, esoteric, and just energetic and magic and things like that. So that's one part of it. The other part of mystery, I think the the meaning of Mystery School, some of it, I think, also comes from the fact that a lot of these schools had to be quiet and hidden. Because they would be persecuted or killed, or, you know, whatever. Yeah. And so there's that aspect of it. But for me, you know, my schools are not the hidden part anymore, obviously, because I'm here talking about not so quiet anymore. But it has that aspect of the esoteric teachings. In fact, one of the one time I asked, I think it might have even been before I was hopping on a podcast episode, and I asked one of my guides, like, how do you want me to describe what a mystery school is? And, and they said, the teaching and the practicing of sacred harmonic energetics, which is now the term I don't know if you saw that my website, it's now the turn. Oh, yeah. The work that I do is like the whole methodology of it, but it's, you know, other mystery schools would be that the teaching and the practicing of the mastery of whatever esoteric or energetic or spiritual lineage that was, but for me also another meaning here is, I use the term mystery to talk about the feminine mysteries. And all I mean by that is kind of everything we're talking about, which is like this, absolute, like, unknowableness and uncontrollable illness and like the invisible realms, paradox things that we we don't get to bring our cute little human egos and our brains and our control freakiness into, and things that we get to have our way with, it's literally stepping into this space where she's going to invite us way beyond what our brain is ready to comprehend. She's going to invite us beyond the things that we can control, she's going to invite us back to our soul to the Divine to that which is sacred to to nature, and like, you know, the invisible relationship we have, or the invisible connection between all things, that kind of thing. Um, so so that's what I'm referring to, when I'm talking about the mysteries is these things that we just don't get to have, as much as we want to have control over everything. We feel like we can conquer everything, we don't get to have that. And so her this work, the feminine mysteries is about coming into beautiful relationship with all of those so that we can literally experience beauty. And I mean that like capital B. And so that's what we do in the in the Mystery Schools is is reconnect us with that part of us, those parts of us, bring us back into our own, you know, connection with our soul and which is, in my view, the reason we come here in the first place. So if we ever feel like there's a soul purpose we have or maybe there is a soul purpose, or I wonder what mine is, that's how we find it is by connecting with her our intuition, our emotional mastery so that we can be walking around as sacred versions of these archetypes instead of the wounded ones and creating more wound in one another. Right. And I'm trying to think what else like we do a lot of really deep shamanic work, I call it shamanic reunion, because we're, you know, reclaiming and retrieving aspects of ourselves that we've lost or receiving wisdom from guides or from ancestors or from ourselves deeper within ourselves, or from our soul. We are receiving guidance, we are receiving wisdom, we are retrieving power versions of our power aspects of our power that we've lost along the way. All kinds of things like that. So that's what we do in the mystery. It's all the things that it's like, our relationship with life and the universe itself. If that makes sense.

Corinne Foxx:

Yeah, well, it sounds like a lot of,

Natalie McMillan:

I feel like the center of all of it. For me, at least the way that I am interpreting it is like trust, trusting yourself trusting your own intuition.

Corinne Foxx:

I was gonna say that Ryan, we have, you know, you say, we're like, there's the fear of the unknown, right? Yeah. And I think a lot of the what you teach has become unknown to us because of how society is like, built and so it's removing the fear so that we can be we can trust the unknown. Yeah, and trust the things we can't describe

Natalie McMillan:

me in the feminine. Yes. And I feel like that like, because I too, am very much in my masculine a lot. And I get afraid of being in my feminine, because I'm like, I can't, you know, control. I don't know what's gonna happen if I if I just like, you know, did that. So, but I think that it's just a lack of, like, inner trust.

Heather Allison:

Yeah, that's just conditioning to we all have, yeah, all of us. We, we as a collective, like, as a whole, we've been trained to fear her. And I mean, that goes back to, like, you know, way back to 1000s of years when, you know, Goddess religions and connection with goddess and all of that stuff was also, you know, destroyed, if you will, the temples that were destroyed the religion, or the connections that were destroyed the rights that were destroyed, and being able to connect to the Goddess as well. You know, that's one aspect of this, but then yeah, within us as well, like, look at how many times we're told that, you know, intuition doesn't matter. Like, if it doesn't make sense, you know, you deprioritize your intuition because, but this is what makes sense. Or, this is what everyone else is doing. Or you know, I that was a big one for me when I was younger, but like, if I had a feeling about something, but everybody else was doing it was like, Well, okay, I'll, I'll do what everyone else is doing, or what someone told me to do, or expected me to do. And so we compartmentalize that, and we deprioritize it, and we decide there's no room or time for it, but even like, you know, not bringing any emotion into the workplace, things like that, you know, yeah, where none of its allowed rock. It's conditioned out of us, like literally this whole entire, this whole entire, like wounded masculine paradigm, as I call it has conditioned us into thinking that we need to be machine to get it right, I have to produce, I have to be consistent, I have to write all of the things and so we're absolutely trained to fear her. So it's not just you.

Natalie McMillan:

Oh, my gosh, well, thank you. For all of this. This has been amazing. How can our listeners continue to engage with you? And where can they find your courses. And of course,

Corinne Foxx:

we will link every link every day.

Heather Allison:

So you can find me at Heather hyphen, allison.com. And there's, you know, we definitely go super, super deep into this in my Mystery School called Golden goddess. But there's a mini Mystery School as well, where it's kind of a little bit more of a lighter experience where you can kind of start, we still go deep, but it's smaller, smaller bits, if that makes sense. And and then there are even lighter experiences as well, if you want to kind of start out and try things on for women who are a little bit newer to the feminine. My free micro course called from tantrum to Tantra is a really good one to kind of introduce you to the feminine and masculine stuff and really start understanding what that is. For those who are a little bit more advanced had been doing this for a little while, there's going to be one called sacred harmonic energetics that's coming soon next year. So that is gonna go a little bit more into kind of the quantum energetics of things. Oh, then there are like, yeah, there are courses and mini courses. So there's a flavor here, no matter where you are, where you're starting, or how deep you want to go, or how light you want to start. Yeah. And are these courses self guided? Or are they like live I have golden Goddess is like the deepest thing. So it's, it's you're with me for nine months to a year or longer depending on when you join. So you know, we do I do it every year and we start the end of February this coming year. Okay. And so there's still time for anybody to join me for that one. And that's the deepest like you're in there really deeply with me and have a lot of my support. The spiral is the mini Mystery School and that one is kind of a half and half there's some some audio that you'll get each month and then we dive into some like a some support through a call and a q&a with me a live call and a q&a. And that one's a year long. And then I do have some like three month courses like Goddess printer for entrepreneurs who want to do business in the feminine cosmic Chamonix tuition stuff

Natalie McMillan:

was that I said, that's the one I need. God is

Heather Allison:

so good. And that's just three months in itself guided but there are a couple of little sessions that you get to have with me because I just love the intimacy I it's really hard for me not to want to dive in with every woman who comes here. So there's a little bit in most of the things I offer. And then the mini courses are just four weeks long and they're just that's just automated and and delivered to you. So ah,

Corinne Foxx:

well, thanks. No, I know and I'm really excited to dive in because I know that I need to do this. I have a lot to learn. But thank you so much for your time. Seriously, I feel like this is gonna be so helpful for people and we will link everything you you're doing in our show notes so our listeners can find you.

Heather Allison:

Thank you and I will get you that archetypal grid too because it for sure. Energy traits. Yeah.

Corinne Foxx:

Okay, perfect. Thank you so much hotter. Have a great rest of your day. Thank you to beauties. So good to meet you. Yeah,

Natalie McMillan:

you to.

Corinne Foxx:

That was so wonderful. Thank you so much seriously, like, I feel like you were just the perfect person to explain all of this and I'm so glad that it's taken this long for us to find you. Yeah, you were the right person. We were like timing. Um, so. Yeah. Oh, what a little a joke. So like, was very calming a serial, various,

Natalie McMillan:

you know, she was just like,

Corinne Foxx:

I you know, I don't want to say it because I never want to, like, be ageist. But she looks incredible.

Natalie McMillan:

She looks 18 years old. Which is like, Oh, when I was 40 I'm like, what? You mean? You're 40 Yeah, I'm like you didn't she's like when I was like, 37. I'm like, ma'am, no, you're 17 Yeah, she looks incredible. She does. She does and all relaxed and

Corinne Foxx:

not stressed. getting stressed highs as I'm talking. Watching my skin off. Well, the whole top of the episode we were talking about femininity, apparently. We are wrong. Not not femininity, feminine feminine. Energy and nurture. Yes.

Natalie McMillan:

Yeah, we would you I get and I understand. I understand. I've totally understand that. Picking up what she's putting down.

Corinne Foxx:

Okay, well, should we rate our taste Nirvana, coconut water, coconut water. One, two, our hottie OF THE WEEK whom I'm very excited. Oh, I

Natalie McMillan:

love this hottie of the week.

Corinne Foxx:

Do you want to say what did you say? Because I'm still tasting the coconut water.

Natalie McMillan:

Our honey this week is Stanley Tucci.

Corinne Foxx:

Well, okay, let me go back. Okay. Yeah. I purchased it because we were thinking of, okay, who's the Hadith going to be? And obviously thinking of women for the feminine energy? Yeah. And I thought, no, let's do a man who I feel like is in touch with his feminine energy. Yes. I was like Stanley Tucci. Yes. Because he any really, you know, he's like, cookies very slow. And like you really get take some sensation. Yes. And like taste and flavor. And beauty and

Natalie McMillan:

be oh my gosh, yes. And you know, that man finds beauty in anything and everything.

Corinne Foxx:

So I just feel like he's a good example of a man. And yeah, not, you know, not feminine, not to stereotype. But like he's,

Natalie McMillan:

you know, right. Right. And he's not sexual, but

Corinne Foxx:

he's just in that place. Yes.

Natalie McMillan:

He's not in the toxic masculine.

Corinne Foxx:

No. It's like, not at all.

Natalie McMillan:

And he's just floating through life. Looking for it really. I saw this tic tac where this dude was like, I cannot believe that women thinks differently. Two G's. Ha and like, all the comments, were like, Stanley Tucci is fine. Well,

Corinne Foxx:

because you know, the feminine gay, the male gaze. So the male gaze is a whole thing where like, men look at other men in the gym and like, they're all jacked up, like, Oh my God, that's the guy that like yeah, get every girl and then they come in the room and the girls like

Natalie McMillan:

Yes. Yes. We're the female gaze is like Stanley Tucci.

Corinne Foxx:

Yeah, no, men are furious. They're very confused. Confused. Okay, so one to Stanley Tucci. What are you thinking of the taste nirvana? Coconut, coconut it my coconut water. So it has to be ice cold. But I actually if this was ice cold, I would give it like

Natalie McMillan:

a nine.

Corinne Foxx:

I was gonna say seven.

Corinne Foxx:

I'll give it a nine. Okay, so an eight. Yeah, I never ate out of Stanley to cheese. It tastes very, like apple. Coconut cocoa. Were some don't taste like coconut. But this one really does. Yeah. I like it. Not eight, eight out of sandwich.

Corinne Foxx:

All right. That's the part of the episode where you play a little wrap up game this week. You guys. It's 200 questions. And no, we're not answering 200 questions for picking question with or 200 and each of us is going to answer it and they're supposed to get more intimate as you get closer to 200. We've done this about 200 to 200 times. So it seems impossible. There'll be a new question when you go not

Natalie McMillan:

so hard to because I feel like I always choose the same number. Okay, what's like a really random number 51 I feel like

Corinne Foxx:

oh, this is a good one. What pets did you have while you were growing up? Oh, wow. That's it. Buckle up. Buckle

Natalie McMillan:

up. Okay, let's see. I had Mr. Kitty. Okay, I had a lot of pets. We had a cat. We had many my Australian Shepherd. We also had a Shih Tzu named Rocky. We I had a three rabbits, five chickens, a tortoise, like five or six koi fish, two snakes. For the snakes names Jake and Boo. Okay. Boo was right after monsters. Yeah. And Jake the Snake, obviously because I was very clever. Kenny had an iguana at one point.

Corinne Foxx:

When I tell you my mom would Oh, are we have any

Natalie McMillan:

hamsters? I had like three, two different hamsters. At one point, I had mice, but that was more like my. I was like taking care of the class mice. Birds we had you have a rat? No, my friend Jamie had rats. No, I had hamsters. Okay. Birds, we had three different Burr. Oh, no, I'm sorry, four different birds, parakeets. And then we also had cockatiel.

Corinne Foxx:

It's giving. We live in. What is it? What was that God is about a zoo. It's giving We Bought a Zoo.

Natalie McMillan:

We had a lot of pets. A lot of pets. Right now we have the least amount of bats we've ever had. Which is I have Zeplin my mom has Sunday. And that's it. Yeah,

Corinne Foxx:

that's a lot. That's also a lot of animals that staff to process.

Natalie McMillan:

Oh my gosh, Guinea we had guinea pigs with three different guinea pigs. Actually. Oh, wow. Beginning what? Kenny's guinea pig with him Guinea? Yes. That's actually a new Aha. But then we had two other guinea pigs, because the other thing is that people would like rehome their animals to us. But that happened

Corinne Foxx:

multiple times. You guys again, giving we bought a zit? Yes. So

Natalie McMillan:

we inherited two guinea pigs. We inherited one bird. We inherited two different cats.

Corinne Foxx:

This is a full time job. How

Natalie McMillan:

are you guys and Cleo animals. Oh my god. It was a full blown farm. My tortoise bubba. He did die. Whilst hibernating That was sad.

Corinne Foxx:

Oh, now, do you have any traumatic animal deaths?

Natalie McMillan:

No. Wow. No.

Corinne Foxx:

With all of them. Actually. This

Natalie McMillan:

is funny. This is kind of funny. I think it's funny. I was think about it this morning for some for some reason. But I one of our most recent cats Taz. She was super super old. We got them when they were like 15 or something because my neighbor had cancer she couldn't take care of anymore. We inherited them. And Taz my mom, I remember she walked in one day and she was like, I think Taz died. Like can you go check? I can't I can't look. And I was like, okay, so I go in the bathroom. And I like kind of touch her. And she I think she had literally just died. And none of our animals ever die in their sleep. This one happened to which was like nice, because it's always sad to put them down but like, then you have to move the body. Yeah. So she was like, can you take it to the vet like to cremate it, you know? And I was like, okay, so I just like kind of like, pulled my pants up basically and was like, okay, I can do it. So I picked as up and I she was a little tiny cat. I put her in a little box drive to the vet. And my mom had called saying like, Oh, you know, one of the cat Stein Natalie's bringing it whatever. So walk into the vet still Bosque who was just the funniest guy, he wanted to perform surgery on every single animal. I don't know why. Oh. And he goes, he like pops out from behind this like counter. And he goes, he was he had an accent. It was witchcraft is it? And I said, Oh, it's Taz. And he goes, I thought it'd be Miko. And I said, No, it's not and he was like, okay, and then he goes, Do you want me to make sure? And I was like, okay, yeah, I mean, I guess so. Like, I don't want to ride would like to make sure she's dead. Yeah. She's like, okay, so he takes her down the hallway in this box, and I'm not even kidding. Two seconds. Go by downhill. Yep, she's dead. I was like, okay, like, I'll see you later.

Corinne Foxx:

Wow, I was waiting for the twist of the story would be like she was dead. She was.

Natalie McMillan:

Yeah, she's dead. Um, like he didn't even open the bar. It was like half a second from him down the hall. So yeah, I had a million.

Corinne Foxx:

Wow, I knew that question was gonna

Natalie McMillan:

Wow, it really did. I forgot I was even we were even playing. Okay, pick a number. Ah,

Corinne Foxx:

6360s rare.

Natalie McMillan:

Ooh, this is a good one to what game or movie universe would you most like to live in? I know. You're gonna say do you? Well, maybe not. But what do you think I was gonna say? I thought you were gonna say avatar like whatever. Oh my god, what is the world NaVi or something? Or is that the language they speak? No, they

Corinne Foxx:

are the Navi. Oh, wow. Okay, I would say wow, because I actually would really even thinking that

Natalie McMillan:

this is the universe, the movie universe who would like to live in?

Corinne Foxx:

Yeah. Because it's like, honestly and I don't want to just millennial myself to death. I would have loved to go to Hogwarts, of course. Oh my gosh, like, you know, and so but I was like, Oh, I don't want to be that millennial Harry Potter girl. But I did see Avatar and I was like, I have to be in a V. And they're all connected to animals and they're connected to talk about feminine energy, even the men and then they're all just connected to the plant so they literally can physically connect they plug into things their tails Yeah, they do weird shit with their tails. Well, they definitely buck with their tail they stuck with their tail but they

Natalie McMillan:

also the only thing I remember from the first one they also

Corinne Foxx:

like when they want to ride an animal they like pop the plug into the animal they plug their tail into the yeah so that they can like Be one with it. So that like when they

Natalie McMillan:

sounds a little BC ality adjacent.

Corinne Foxx:

They can also like plug into the trees, like they plug their thing and they can like feel the energy of the

Natalie McMillan:

fucking trees. They're just plugging their fraying into the tree.

Corinne Foxx:

Oh, it is really beautiful. And I'm not gonna lie the dad in so I have a thing,

Natalie McMillan:

having a crush on and I'm gonna animate a character.

Corinne Foxx:

It's just like, like everybody had a crush. I'm just gonna say white people with dreads kind of throws me sometimes. As it really should. throws me so I

Natalie McMillan:

would never why. I guess

Corinne Foxx:

I just did that. But so I know Sam Worthington is a white dude. But now he's in blue. He's He's, he's in blue face.

Natalie McMillan:

Oh, he's blue for me as dress.

Corinne Foxx:

But he has these dreads right? These like, I was like, this is the one time this is working for this man. It's probably because his skin is blue. Right? Because he doesn't look like a human. No, but he had like this Mohawk dread. I don't know what it was. But I was so into it. I was like, Oh, I left it. Of course. I'm always with John. I was like, Oh, that's my man. And he was like,

Natalie McMillan:

here we go again. And he's like this blue man. Oh, guy,

Corinne Foxx:

man.

Natalie McMillan:

I knew they were close.

Corinne Foxx:

They have loincloths. Okay, that's what I thought women and men and then the women they just like, strategically covered their nipples. Like jewelry.

Natalie McMillan:

Oh, so no, like talk. They don't have like,

Corinne Foxx:

top no women and men don't have tops. But but they but they find a way to like, like their hair hair. Like their their necklace is always like right over their nipple.

Natalie McMillan:

Okay, so you would live in doubt. 100%

Corinne Foxx:

Oh, okay. Okay. So Wow. And I'm gonna post a photo of the Hot

Natalie McMillan:

Blue Man and dry man, the blue man.

Corinne Foxx:

Because it's giving is giving money to get everyone to

Natalie McMillan:

bias development thought he was going to like a depressed man's thing. And it was a Blue Man Group but

Corinne Foxx:

he ended up like being an alternate or like, oh, wait, no. Oh, he

Natalie McMillan:

thought it was the Blue Man Group. So he showed up to the depressed man's group in blue face. Up at the podium and he goes, I feel like a fucking idiot.

Corinne Foxx:

I'm just gonna pull this up really quick while we're live on the podcast just because I do think it's important that you see what I mean? Like his dread since you.

Natalie McMillan:

Oh, no. Is it not good in retrospect? Let me see. Let me see. I have to see it now. Oh, no, it's Braveheart. It's literally Braveheart. Oh, it's Braveheart. But he's blue. Okay, well oh,

Corinne Foxx:

you know, it's when you're immersed in the world. It's different

Natalie McMillan:

to tell me that's not the same man. It's Braveheart.

Corinne Foxx:

That was definitely the reference. I'm not kidding.

Natalie McMillan:

I'm telling you. I saw she she showed me the picture. And I said that is Mel Gibson. That's Mel Gibson in Braveheart, actually. Oh, it Yeah,

Corinne Foxx:

I see it.

Natalie McMillan:

Oh, it's also in blue face. Also,

Corinne Foxx:

I don't know why I was into his dreads like that. I was like, damn, Oh, wow. I really got last night. So, we look at this. I'm into it.

Natalie McMillan:

Okay, I can kinda get the I kind of see the dreads there.

Corinne Foxx:

I would plug into that you guys, this episode is crazy. We love you guys and we will be back next week with another episode.

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