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Join your host Danny Brown as he puts this week's 5 random questions to Em. Answers include how the most horrible situation turned into a positive, why you need to ensure her cat is fed in an apocalypse, and deciding whether the afterlife is just a sliding doors moment. Let's jump in!
Answering the questions this week: Em .
Em has been a podcaster for over five years; creating, producing and hosting the film history podcast Verbal Diorama. She's here to celebrate moving making in all its forms, and is similarly passionate about independent podcasting, and supporting other indie podcasters and content creators.
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Em: You know we shouldn't have had a situation like Malala where she was gunned
Speaker:Em: down for fighting for the rights of young girls to have an education, because
Speaker:Em: young girls should be able to live freely and have an education no matter where
Speaker:Em: they live, no matter their religion, the color of their skin, whatever. Young girls
Speaker:Em: should always have those fundamental basic human rights.
Speaker:Danny: Hi and welcome to Five Random Questions, the show where every question is an adventure.
Speaker:Danny: I'm your host Danny Brown, and each week I'll be asking my guests five questions created
Speaker:Danny: by a random question generator.
Speaker:Danny: The guest has no idea what the questions are, and neither do I,
Speaker:Danny: which means this could go either way.
Speaker:Danny: So sit back, relax, and let's dive into this week's episode.
Speaker:Danny: Today's guest is Em, who's been a podcaster for over five years.
Speaker:Danny: She's also the creator, producer, and host of the film history podcast Verbal Diorama.
Speaker:Danny: She's here to celebrate movie moviemaking in all its forms, and is similarly
Speaker:Danny: passionate about independent podcasting and supporting other indie podcasters and content creators.
Speaker:Danny: Putting her money where her mouth is, Em is one of the people behind the Independent
Speaker:Danny: Podcast Awards, which is now in its second year and recognises and supports
Speaker:Danny: these podcasters who are creating shows from their bedroom, in their spare time, on their own dime.
Speaker:Danny: So Em, welcome to Five Random Questions.
Speaker:Em: Hi Danny, it's so lovely to be here, thank you for having me.
Speaker:Em: I'm a bit nervous about these these questions I'll be honest because I mean
Speaker:Em: I know a lot about film history but not so much about everything else so let's
Speaker:Em: see how we get on, but I'm really excited to be here thank you for having me.
Speaker:Danny: No, you're welcome, and it's funny like normally as you
Speaker:Danny: just mentioned some of the guests I've had on have said the same
Speaker:Danny: thing, it's kind of weird because normally you come to a chat show
Speaker:Danny: like this or an interview podcast like this, and you're kind of pre-prepared
Speaker:Danny: about what the topics is going to be, and you know you're maybe talking about
Speaker:Danny: a book, or your podcast, or anything like that. This is completely flipped that
Speaker:Danny: script, it is completely random so it's it's interesting to see where each conversation
Speaker:Danny: goes. It's all been very different so far, so I appreciate you putting yourself forward for this yeah.
Speaker:Em: Do you know what I thought I thought it would be a lot of fun, because like you
Speaker:Em: say I've not done anything like this before and I mean, I've I've been interviewed
Speaker:Em: about the podcast before and obviously I've been on lots of other movie podcasts
Speaker:Em: mostly talking about The Mummy, I'll be honest.
Speaker:Em: So if there's any Mummy questions, I am down.
Speaker:Em: But yeah, I thought this would be a really interesting thing to do.
Speaker:Em: And I love the idea for the podcast. I think it's a really interesting concept.
Speaker:Em: So and I've listened to a couple episodes and they were really,
Speaker:Em: really fun. So I'm thinking, I'm thinking this is going to be great.
Speaker:Danny: Now I'm looking forward to it. Unfortunately, I'm in Canada,
Speaker:Danny: so I can't enter into the Independent Podcast Awards.
Speaker:Danny: But speaking of those, how's it going? This is the second year, as I mentioned.
Speaker:Danny: Obviously, it's a great initiative and the second year looks to be even bigger.
Speaker:Em: Yeah, I mean, it's pretty incredible, really. I think when you do anything like
Speaker:Em: that, you do worry, maybe, that maybe it's not going to be so well received in the second year.
Speaker:Em: But the feedback we got after that first event was really positive.
Speaker:Em: There was obviously some constructive feedback that we could obviously work
Speaker:Em: on, you know, with regards to maybe switching some of the categories around and that sort of thing.
Speaker:Em: And we've actually worked on that this year. we have a
Speaker:Em: panel um like a board of
Speaker:Em: independent podcasts and basically all of
Speaker:Em: the ideas for the independent podcast awards
Speaker:Em: are basically discussed in a board meeting with the
Speaker:Em: board being of independent podcasters like
Speaker:Em: british uh british independent podcasters uh
Speaker:Em: of all genres all types uh just
Speaker:Em: basically we get together every couple of months or
Speaker:Em: so and discuss changes like what
Speaker:Em: are we you going to do and so a lot of the changes that we've put forward for this
Speaker:Em: year with regards to categories and stuff like that
Speaker:Em: that's all basically been discussed with other
Speaker:Em: independent podcasts so it's not just one or two people making decisions about
Speaker:Em: the you know the future of the independent podcast awards it's it's a group
Speaker:Em: of independent podcasts who are all coming together to discuss what's the best
Speaker:Em: way forward um and we really like that approach just because it feels
Speaker:Em: like it feels like it was it's you know made by independent podcasts for independent
Speaker:Em: podcasts in that respect and.
Speaker:Danny: I think that's what i like about this particular awards i mean obviously there's a
Speaker:Danny: lot of podcasts and award shows out there um some massive
Speaker:Danny: ones um some not quite as massive but generally there aren't a lot i don't think
Speaker:Danny: there's a many to be honest that are geared solely towards the indie podcaster
Speaker:Danny: and with indie podcasters being the driving force behind it so So it's great
Speaker:Danny: to see because you have the new podcasters who know how hard it is to make a
Speaker:Danny: show and they're working to recognise others in that same boat.
Speaker:Danny: So I love the whole, you know, the whole initiative. And I know our so-called
Speaker:Danny: friend Mark Asquith, he's involved in it as well.
Speaker:Danny: So he speaks very highly of the organisation and the fun that goes on behind it. So kudos to that.
Speaker:Danny: And speaking of independent, we do have five independent questions,
Speaker:Danny: all independent from each other.
Speaker:Danny: So I know your students are looking forward to this because you couldn't wait
Speaker:Danny: to get on and get these questions thrown at you that aren't to do with the mummy in 1997.
Speaker:Danny: So are we ready to have a look at the random generation and see what pops up?
Speaker:Em: Go for it.
Speaker:Danny: All right, let's bring this up here.
Speaker:Danny: Okay, just a small one to start the questions off there. Question number one.
Speaker:Danny: Do you think any kind of afterlife exists?
Speaker:Em: Oof, okay, we're going in with the big guns first. Okay, do I think any kind of afterlife exists?
Speaker:Em: I would like to think yes. I
Speaker:Em: would like to think that we have
Speaker:Em: a finite amount of time on this earth and
Speaker:Em: what we're whatever we do with that time on this earth is
Speaker:Em: whatever we do with that time on this earth i guess
Speaker:Em: i've always kind of been more kind
Speaker:Em: of spiritual than religious shall we say and i've always believed in spiritual
Speaker:Em: things not that necessarily i believe in ghosts um i don't know i've had some
Speaker:Em: weird experiences in the past with regards to maybe feeling presences that
Speaker:Em: may or may not have been there, like when I was a kid and stuff.
Speaker:Em: And I don't know, I just always like to think, I like the idea of multiverses,
Speaker:Em: which I know is quite popular in pop culture right now.
Speaker:Em: But I like the idea of every decision that we make in life, you.
Speaker:Em: I like to call it the sliding doors effect, you either board the train,
Speaker:Em: or you don't board the train.
Speaker:Em: And whatever happens when you board the train happens.
Speaker:Em: But also, you didn't board the train and something else
Speaker:Em: happened because i think a lot of people think what if
Speaker:Em: in their life and i kind of think that
Speaker:Em: that maybe goes similarly into like
Speaker:Em: the idea of afterlife as well in that
Speaker:Em: once your soul is done here well then
Speaker:Em: there's a choice of where you go next maybe um and
Speaker:Em: maybe there are multiple versions of
Speaker:Em: existence that are beyond this version
Speaker:Em: of existence but we will never truly know about it because
Speaker:Em: you have to leave this plane of existence to go
Speaker:Em: there you know um but i don't know
Speaker:Em: i i guess i've always liked to think that your
Speaker:Em: soul is so personal to you
Speaker:Em: i mean i suppose then you kind of go into well is reincarnation real but i like
Speaker:Em: to think you know as a person as as an entity as a being i am different to everyone
Speaker:Em: else on this earth and so my soul you know that that spark within me that makes me me,
Speaker:Em: I think I'd feel quite sad if that never kind of had an opportunity to be elsewhere.
Speaker:Em: I would like to think that that would go somewhere else and,
Speaker:Em: you know, have a really cool life somewhere else.
Speaker:Em: So I guess fundamentally, I like to think yes, because our time on this earth is so fleeting.
Speaker:Em: You know, if you think of the history of earth, We're mere specks in the general
Speaker:Em: kind of, you know, history of Earth and how long this planet's been around and
Speaker:Em: the creatures on this planet.
Speaker:Em: So really, humans are nothing.
Speaker:Em: But I like to think that maybe there's a place we go to once we are done here.
Speaker:Em: Because, you know what, you live 80, 90, maybe 100 years if you're lucky.
Speaker:Em: So, yeah, there must be somewhere else.
Speaker:Danny: I'm hoping, and I say this in the kind, not the kindest way, that's the wrong word.
Speaker:Danny: I say it in some kind of way. I'm hoping I don't live to 100.
Speaker:Danny: I i feel um just personally
Speaker:Danny: i feel that'd be a lot of you know you get
Speaker:Danny: tired of stuff but i mean that's just me an interesting point you
Speaker:Danny: you lifted you you raised there um where you're
Speaker:Danny: on about the the multiverse you know the multiple almost like
Speaker:Danny: the multiple personas of us that may be
Speaker:Danny: existing and experiencing different versions of
Speaker:Danny: the same moment and there's a well-known sort of
Speaker:Danny: like trope that every person on the
Speaker:Danny: planet has got a doppelganger somewhere else on the
Speaker:Danny: planet do you think that might be tying to your your thinking around there's
Speaker:Danny: someone else that looks exactly like you that acts like you that speaks like
Speaker:Danny: you living a life somewhere on the other side of the world that's actually a
Speaker:Danny: second part of you like a spiritual part of you that's doing the opposite of
Speaker:Danny: what you're doing in your current form
Speaker:Em: I mean it could be i mean if you take the idea of the
Speaker:Em: sliding doors theory uh which is a
Speaker:Em: great movie by the way everything always comes back to movies for me um
Speaker:Em: and you know the idea that you make a decision and that decision can basically
Speaker:Em: change the course of your entire life you know basically whether you decide
Speaker:Em: to board the train or whether you do manage to board the train or not and i've
Speaker:Em: had many experiences in my life
Speaker:Em: one of the things that I always come to because I
Speaker:Em: guess I'm a big believer in fate
Speaker:Em: and that it ultimately you
Speaker:Em: always end up where you're supposed to end up but about 20 years ago I was in
Speaker:Em: quite a bad car accident and it was basically um a driver he he was driving
Speaker:Em: on the wrong side of the road and he hit me head on so there was nothing I could
Speaker:Em: do it was him that was at fault.
Speaker:Em: But I can't remember who said it to me someone I think it
Speaker:Em: might have been my mum or something saying well you know if if
Speaker:Em: you'd have only left the house five minutes earlier or five minutes later
Speaker:Em: that wouldn't have been you you know they would have hit someone else and then
Speaker:Em: you kind of think well that's absolutely true you know if I'd have left five
Speaker:Em: minutes earlier or five minutes later that guy could have hit someone else or
Speaker:Em: he may have ended up in a ditch somewhere and maybe be in another version of that,
Speaker:Em: I didn't get hit and I carried on my journey and I ended up wherever I ended
Speaker:Em: up and my life took a completely different path.
Speaker:Em: I feel like there is a high possibility that there are versions of ourselves
Speaker:Em: that are out there that maybe.
Speaker:Em: Maybe I don't know I feel like I'm I feel like I'm talking rubbish now
Speaker:Em: but but maybe you
Speaker:Em: know from that event I don't know
Speaker:Em: I feel like I feel like that has to be you know like people talk about the um
Speaker:Em: the Mandela effect where things that you remember are not quite how you remember
Speaker:Em: them and people talk about like different dimensions and like in a different
Speaker:Em: dimension it's it is what
Speaker:Em: you think it is but it's like there are like these mirror
Speaker:Em: dimensions and stuff like that like I mean I think it's all fascinating stuff
Speaker:Em: I don't think we'll ever truly prove it but I
Speaker:Em: think there are some fascinating ideas out there
Speaker:Em: with regards to different universes and
Speaker:Em: different you know different things that have
Speaker:Em: happened and it's like it like in Loki like
Speaker:Em: it causes like a split in in time
Speaker:Em: and you end up with all of these different like branches kind
Speaker:Em: of going off like with different versions of different people and
Speaker:Em: I think it's it's wholly possible to say it's definitely possible to have a
Speaker:Em: doppelganger I've had people come up to me and say oh I saw you the other day
Speaker:Em: you were at so-and-so and I'm like no I wasn't and genuinely people have said
Speaker:Em: that to me and I don't think I've got like I don't think that there are many
Speaker:Em: people out there who probably do look a lot like me.
Speaker:Em: But I I suppose I've never met anyone who looks like me so
Speaker:Em: apart from my sister maybe they saw or my sister but you
Speaker:Em: know it's just like weird really strange things and
Speaker:Em: you kind of like add them up in your mind and you're like do you know
Speaker:Em: what all of these strange things that happen to you when you
Speaker:Em: do have like spiritual like experiences when you're a kid and like I used I
Speaker:Em: used to think that I could see my recently deceased grandma on the end of my
Speaker:Em: bed when I was a kid and maybe maybe I did I don't know but you do kind of I
Speaker:Em: think it's good to ask questions I think it's good to.
Speaker:Em: Not necessarily take the world at face value. I think it's good to have curiosity
Speaker:Em: and an open mind as to what could be out there.
Speaker:Em: And that goes for things like doppelgangers, that goes for things like multiple
Speaker:Em: universes. And I think it goes for things like the afterlife as well.
Speaker:Em: We cannot prove definitively whether it is or it isn't. But I don't think there's
Speaker:Em: anything wrong with anyone who thinks that it does exist or thinks that it doesn't exist.
Speaker:Em: Because fundamentally, we're never going to truly know it's it's
Speaker:Em: not a question that any of us on this on this mortal plane could ever answer
Speaker:Em: i don't think so it's all theoretical at the end of the day but i think it's
Speaker:Em: it's it's definitely interesting topic to talk about and i'm really glad this
Speaker:Em: is the first question actually because this is this is a fascinating question it.
Speaker:Danny: Can either go up or down from here but yeah we need we need someone to come
Speaker:Danny: back from the afterlife and say hey it's It's pretty cool over here if you want
Speaker:Danny: to join us. Maybe not as early as that, but yeah.
Speaker:Em: That's the thing. I mean, there's the movie Ghost. I mean, he kind of comes
Speaker:Em: back from the afterlife, but he can only talk to Whoopi Goldberg.
Speaker:Em: So maybe we need to get Whoopi on the phone and maybe she'll be able to tell us.
Speaker:Danny: Sounds good. And speaking of next lives, it's time for the next question and
Speaker:Danny: the life of the next question.
Speaker:Danny: That was a really poor segue there. I apologise, listeners. My bad.
Speaker:Danny: So let's have a look. Now that we've got that little easy question out of the way,
Speaker:Danny: let's look at question number two okay
Speaker:Danny: interesting m and i i feel you've been a movie buffing and enjoying some of
Speaker:Danny: the culture around apocalypses maybe this is a really good question i feel question
Speaker:Danny: number two what product would you seriously stockpile if you found out they
Speaker:Danny: weren't going to sell it anymore okay
Speaker:Em: So the first thing that springs to mind i expect most people if they're asked
Speaker:Em: this question, think about, you know, stuff that during COVID,
Speaker:Em: you know, when everyone was clamoring for toilet paper and stuff like that,
Speaker:Em: that would be a good answer.
Speaker:Em: But the first thing that popped into my mind, genuinely, and I think this tells
Speaker:Em: all of your listeners, the status of my life right now would probably be cat treats.
Speaker:Em: Because my cat, Evie, she's named after the lead character in The Mummy, of course.
Speaker:Em: Evie, she's a beautiful cat and she's the loveliest thing, but she really loves
Speaker:Em: her treats and if they didn't do these treats anymore.
Speaker:Em: I don't know what I'd do. Literally, it's like, I feel like she would come for me in the night.
Speaker:Em: I wouldn't exist anymore if these treats didn't exist.
Speaker:Em: So if they said that they were stopping, these treats are called Licky Licks.
Speaker:Em: They're like cat yogurt-y treats. They're in like a little yogurt sachet.
Speaker:Em: And she has a couple of them every day and she loves them.
Speaker:Em: And if I want her to do something like take a tablet, it's the only way she'll take a tablet.
Speaker:Em: It if I want her to come in from outside pretty much the only way she'll come in from outside,
Speaker:Em: is if she has licky licks so I
Speaker:Em: don't know what I would do without licky licks so I'm literally I'm going to
Speaker:Em: be I'm going to beg here to the people who create licky licks I don't I can't
Speaker:Em: remember who it is I can't remember who the the company is but it's honestly
Speaker:Em: a lifesaver and I've been
Speaker:Em: out today to the shops to buy about four or five more boxes of the stuff because
Speaker:Em: she goes through it like anything so that is what i would seriously stockpile
Speaker:Em: if i found out they weren't selling licky licks i would have to go out there
Speaker:Em: and buy as much of it as possible because,
Speaker:Em: seriously when that runs out her little kitty paws are going to be like embedded
Speaker:Em: yeah uh i will not survive the night so uh so yeah that that's the first thing
Speaker:Em: that came into my head so i feel like That's the most honest answer you're going to get.
Speaker:Danny: I've got to give kudos to that name as well. I can imagine some of the fun that could maybe be had
Speaker:Danny: If your cat's outside, I don't know if Evie's an outdoor cat or not,
Speaker:Danny: but if Evie was out in the evening or something and you're shouting out in the
Speaker:Danny: middle of the night, Evie, come and get some licky licks.
Speaker:Danny: And the neighbours are thinking, what depravity is going on in that house? That's an amazing name.
Speaker:Em: I mean, luckily, I think my neighbours question a lot of my choices anyway.
Speaker:Em: But usually, like she just knows it as treats or nice things.
Speaker:Em: So I'll say, Evie, do you want some nice things? and she'll know what nice things
Speaker:Em: are straight away so yeah it would be the licky licks and.
Speaker:Danny: You mentioned it's a yogurt base and could you like replicate that or is it
Speaker:Danny: just you think it's just like one of these things that the manufacturer knows the secret ingredient
Speaker:Em: I mean there are other brands that
Speaker:Em: do something similar to licky licks but she
Speaker:Em: she's quite particular like she's
Speaker:Em: very particular with food she's a very strange cat in the
Speaker:Em: sense that she like a lot of cats enjoy
Speaker:Em: eating things like fresh chicken or prawns
Speaker:Em: or tuna or anything like that but Evie refuses all
Speaker:Em: of those things she's the weirdest little cat she doesn't
Speaker:Em: even get high on catnip so she's genuinely the
Speaker:Em: strangest little cat but she loves these licky licks so
Speaker:Em: I'm just like right okay we'll we'll go with the licky licks could
Speaker:Em: i replicate it uh honestly i don't know
Speaker:Em: because i i expect there's a
Speaker:Em: lot of e numbers and stuff in it i don't know i
Speaker:Em: haven't checked the ingredients but it's just yeah it's like a paste like a
Speaker:Em: yogurty paste made up of probably not real chicken not real salmon or any of
Speaker:Em: those things but yeah i think i think we're safe because i think i think they're
Speaker:Em: quite popular I think a lot of cats like it so it's.
Speaker:Danny: Not going to go away soon I
Speaker:Em: Think I think we're safe but yeah if if covid part two happens touch wood it
Speaker:Em: never does but if it does everyone else is going to be going for toilet roll
Speaker:Em: and I'm going to be going for licky licks so so.
Speaker:Danny: There you go listeners if you want a nice side hustle get out there and buy
Speaker:Danny: up all the licky licks right now and sell them on ebay directly to em big big
Speaker:Danny: profit to be made there yeah all right licky licks it is Let's have a look at question number
Speaker:Em: Three.
Speaker:Danny: Em, question three. What makes someone a hero?
Speaker:Em: Oh, wow. Okay. What makes someone a hero?
Speaker:Danny: Not buying all the Licky Licks.
Speaker:Em: No, yeah. Not hogging all the Licky Licks makes someone a hero.
Speaker:Em: Again, this is a really interesting question because I've grown up pretty much
Speaker:Em: with superhero cinema and the definition
Speaker:Em: of a hero and what is a hero and what does it mean to be a hero?
Speaker:Em: I grew up watching it was
Speaker:Em: actually X-Men the animated series um and I'm
Speaker:Em: very I'm a huge fan of of
Speaker:Em: the X-Men uh the X-Men and my people and the
Speaker:Em: X-Men have always kind of skirted around what makes someone a hero because you
Speaker:Em: have all of these different characters who come from different places and many
Speaker:Em: different things make them heroes or or not in in in different cases I always like.
Speaker:Em: To think sort of stepping away from superheroes
Speaker:Em: because surprise surprise they're not real uh i
Speaker:Em: know it's terrible we all wish that like black
Speaker:Em: panther and captain america were real but um sadly they're
Speaker:Em: not but thinking of like real life
Speaker:Em: and real life heroes i always
Speaker:Em: kind of go whenever i think of like a hero
Speaker:Em: to me personally i go to someone like
Speaker:Em: um malala yusuf sai um she's
Speaker:Em: someone who i consider a hero just
Speaker:Em: because she was this young
Speaker:Em: woman who was so incredibly brave standing up
Speaker:Em: to the taliban just for the rights for girls to learn uh and to be educated
Speaker:Em: and to read and sometimes i think you don't need to have you know super strength
Speaker:Em: and you don't need to have special abilities although it's very cool when they
Speaker:Em: you do have people who who have super strength and abilities.
Speaker:Em: People who are you know fighting the
Speaker:Em: good fight for just basic human rights that's
Speaker:Em: like they shouldn't have to you know
Speaker:Em: we shouldn't have had a situation like Malala where she was gunned down for
Speaker:Em: fighting for the rights of young girls to have an education because young girls
Speaker:Em: should be able to live freely and have an education no matter where they live
Speaker:Em: no matter their religion the color of their skin whatever young girls should
Speaker:Em: always have those fundamental basic human
Speaker:Em: rights but for her to kind of be
Speaker:Em: so viciously attacked you know
Speaker:Em: and and almost die for the for this
Speaker:Em: cause um and the fact that you know she's she's
Speaker:Em: such an inspirational person you know
Speaker:Em: and it's like even now she's still out there kind of
Speaker:Em: fighting for the rights of
Speaker:Em: these young girls these young women and obviously.
Speaker:Em: It's something that i'm quite passionate about out being being a
Speaker:Em: woman you know women's rights are quite important to
Speaker:Em: me personally because you know i am one uh so if
Speaker:Em: it's important to all women it's important to me but i
Speaker:Em: think it's very easy to put people
Speaker:Em: on a pedestal and to maybe suggest
Speaker:Em: that maybe a specific actor or
Speaker:Em: something is a hero because of whatever they've
Speaker:Em: done or a musician or and i
Speaker:Em: feel like if that person is a hero to you then they're
Speaker:Em: a hero you can't necessarily define a
Speaker:Em: hero because everyone's version of a hero is going to be different
Speaker:Em: i'm pretty certain that no one will disagree that malala
Speaker:Em: isn't a hero because i think everyone will agree that she
Speaker:Em: is maybe apart from the taliban but who cares what they think um
Speaker:Em: but i feel like
Speaker:Em: everyone has a definition inside themselves
Speaker:Em: as to what it means to be heroic or
Speaker:Em: what it means to you know to be
Speaker:Em: that hero and fundamentally I think it
Speaker:Em: always comes from a place of kindness and it's so
Speaker:Em: much easier in this world to be mean
Speaker:Em: it's so much easier to be nasty it's so much easier
Speaker:Em: to have hatred it's a lot less
Speaker:Em: easy to be kind and I just
Speaker:Em: feel like at the the root source of any sort of heroism is always fundamentally.
Speaker:Em: Kindness and you know truth and honesty and all of that sort of stuff but fundamentally.
Speaker:Em: I think it's kindness so I think anyone can be a hero if they show kindness,
Speaker:Em: and empathy uh or i would like to think so anyway do.
Speaker:Danny: You think that maybe the um the word gets banded about
Speaker:Danny: a little bit too much now you mentioned obviously malala is a
Speaker:Danny: clear case of an obvious hero for what she's done it's
Speaker:Danny: selfless and it's for it's for others as opposed
Speaker:Danny: to herself obviously she's doing it
Speaker:Danny: for herself to make sure that others can get the education etc
Speaker:Danny: but then you look at c on the and i
Speaker:Danny: don't want to get into politics i that i want to keep that away from the show completely
Speaker:Danny: but you look at in the u.s obviously they've just had the
Speaker:Danny: attempted assassination on the former
Speaker:Danny: president and he's been called a hero because he's got
Speaker:Danny: a bandage on his ear he's back on the campaign trail um and
Speaker:Danny: that may be you mentioned that about you know people's perceptions of heroism
Speaker:Danny: and what makes a hero is you know to the to each other but i feel that's two
Speaker:Danny: very wide aspects of the hero spectrum if you like so someone is doing a selfless
Speaker:Danny: act and putting themselves in danger from a cultural and national point of view as As opposed to,
Speaker:Danny: you know, someone that maybe isn't quite as heroic because they're campaigning.
Speaker:Danny: I don't know. I had a point with that question. I probably just ran away and
Speaker:Danny: just rambled there, as is my one.
Speaker:Danny: But do you feel, I guess, does heroism as a word and aspect of life get thrown
Speaker:Danny: about a bit too easily now?
Speaker:Em: Oh, absolutely. You know, I feel like, you know, just as an example,
Speaker:Em: you know, you get some shopping delivered by the supermarket.
Speaker:Em: Market and and you know the guy carries it into
Speaker:Em: your kitchen and you'll say oh thanks you're such a hero you know it's just
Speaker:Em: sometimes it is a bit of a throwaway thing i mean i i would rather not comment
Speaker:Em: on the former president um just because of yeah but i i feel like the people who are,
Speaker:Em: within his within his group you know
Speaker:Em: within his community of course they're going to
Speaker:Em: think that he's a hero because that is their idea of
Speaker:Em: a hero and I think that kind of fundamentally goes
Speaker:Em: back to what I tried to say earlier
Speaker:Em: was that I feel like everyone has their own idea of
Speaker:Em: what a hero is and sometimes you
Speaker:Em: can idolize people uh and
Speaker:Em: think that they are a hero um because that
Speaker:Em: that's what you think and in a
Speaker:Em: in many ways there's nothing wrong with that you know I know a
Speaker:Em: lot of Swifties for example think Taylor Swift is a hero and
Speaker:Em: in many ways she is because I mean I love her music I think she's great but
Speaker:Em: you know would I put her in the same league as Malala probably not you know
Speaker:Em: it's arguable that Taylor Swift has done a lot for you know the economy with
Speaker:Em: her tours and you know I know she gives to a lot of charities and stuff like that.
Speaker:Em: So in many respects, she is a hero, but it's not really comparable, I think.
Speaker:Em: And I think that's the point, is that what makes someone a hero is very different
Speaker:Em: depending on the circumstances that you're talking about.
Speaker:Em: That's not to say, it's not to discredit any sort of heroism.
Speaker:Em: You know, the firefighter who rescues a cat from a tree is still a hero.
Speaker:Em: But it's, again, it's not really comparable to the Malala levels of heroism
Speaker:Em: that we're talking about.
Speaker:Em: Out so yeah i think it's it's a very flexible term and i think maybe we do band
Speaker:Em: it around a little bit too much but i don't necessarily think that's a bad thing
Speaker:Em: you know a word is just a word you know it's it's the the it's what's behind
Speaker:Em: that word that's excuse me more important than the word itself and.
Speaker:Danny: I think to your point about the fireman and the cat if the cat's evie and all
Speaker:Danny: the little licks are gone i think that fireman is going to be pretty heroic
Speaker:Danny: to get up that tree so So, I mean, we can give it to the fireman.
Speaker:Danny: Alrighty, moving on. Let's have a look at question number four.
Speaker:Danny: What habits are holding you back from success?
Speaker:Em: Oof, okay. I would say there's a lot of self-doubt when it comes to the things that I do.
Speaker:Em: And I feel like if I was a little bit more brave sometimes, maybe I would have
Speaker:Em: a little bit more success. I don't know.
Speaker:Em: It's really hard to, um, it's really hard to kind of quantify it.
Speaker:Em: And because you never know what's going to happen. You never know what's around the corner.
Speaker:Em: Like if you'd have asked me a few years ago, do you think you'd be involved
Speaker:Em: with YNOW doing the independent podcast awards?
Speaker:Em: I'd be like, no, no, that's not possible.
Speaker:Em: So, you know, sometimes it is a little bit of dumb luck, I think, shall we say.
Speaker:Em: I sometimes have crippling self-doubt and it stops me from doing a lot.
Speaker:Em: It stops me from, I don't know, maybe applying for a job, for example,
Speaker:Em: because I will look at the requirements and like maybe I'll have like 75% of
Speaker:Em: the requirements or something and I'll just go, yeah, they're not going to say
Speaker:Em: yes. So there's no point, you know.
Speaker:Em: Whereas I feel like if I had a bit more kind of self-confidence.
Speaker:Em: I might just go, well I'll just apply and if
Speaker:Em: they say no they say no but at least I've given
Speaker:Em: it a go just that fear of rejection I
Speaker:Em: think is always there so I would
Speaker:Em: like to think I mean I would I would like to think that
Speaker:Em: I'm reasonably successful in the
Speaker:Em: field that I'm currently in just from the point
Speaker:Em: of view of not not really kind of monetarily successful or
Speaker:Em: you know popularity successful but sort
Speaker:Em: of in the the indie podcast community I like
Speaker:Em: to think that I'm quite well liked and quite well respected um
Speaker:Em: and you know because I'm a nice person um and people
Speaker:Em: ask me to come on their podcast so uh you know
Speaker:Em: clearly clearly people do value me so but just
Speaker:Em: from like a sort of professional point of
Speaker:Em: view there is a lot of of me holding
Speaker:Em: myself back because I think I'm worried
Speaker:Em: about rejection and I'm worried that I'm not good enough
Speaker:Em: I'm not smart enough you know that that sort
Speaker:Em: of thing and I do think that generally kind
Speaker:Em: of is holding me back from success in a way because I
Speaker:Em: feel like if I could take those steps then
Speaker:Em: maybe so many avenues would open up to me
Speaker:Em: but because I'm so worried of oh I don't quite I don't have this qualification
Speaker:Em: oh I don't quite have that that much experience that that they're the I'm I
Speaker:Em: don't meet the criteria and therefore if I don't meet the criteria 100% that.
Speaker:Em: There's no point me even trying.
Speaker:Em: Um so yeah I think I think
Speaker:Em: I hold myself back quite a lot and it's
Speaker:Em: something that I'm getting better at but it's like taking a
Speaker:Em: while to get better at it because it's
Speaker:Em: it's always difficult when you you do get you know knocked back because I mean
Speaker:Em: I have been you know I've you know had like interviews for jobs that I've really
Speaker:Em: really wanted and gone oh yeah you know I'm I feel like I'm almost there with
Speaker:Em: this and it's like it's not you know it's not for me at the end of the day and
Speaker:Em: And it's and it's disappointing,
Speaker:Em: you know, but I feel like my habit of putting myself down and me telling myself you're not good enough.
Speaker:Em: There are loads of people who are better than you. You know,
Speaker:Em: there's no way that they'll give you a chance. Kind of, you know,
Speaker:Em: that kind of goes around my head a lot.
Speaker:Em: And I think that definitely holds me back in many ways.
Speaker:Em: The podcast is kind of its own beast.
Speaker:Em: So I feel fairly confident in what I'm doing with that.
Speaker:Em: But even then like I feel like if
Speaker:Em: only I had a bit more time to do that that would
Speaker:Em: be that maybe that would be a bit more successful
Speaker:Em: but I'm very time limited on the podcast
Speaker:Em: so uh time is something that you
Speaker:Em: you can't really get it's very difficult
Speaker:Em: to get time but yeah definitely sort of from me in a kind of a personal professional
Speaker:Em: capacity I definitely think my my habits of my kind of self-deprecation and
Speaker:Em: my self-confidence and my self-esteem definitely hold me back this is a very deep question.
Speaker:Danny: Well it's interesting because you mentioned also that that becomes
Speaker:Danny: habitual i mean it starts off as a mental block or maybe
Speaker:Danny: an emotional block um but then because of that it
Speaker:Danny: turns into a habit almost you're almost expectant to
Speaker:Danny: you know not be successful for a job interview
Speaker:Danny: or or a date or anything like that
Speaker:Danny: you know we've had maybe struggles there and i'm curious
Speaker:Danny: is it an option so it becomes a
Speaker:Danny: habit to not be successful with something but to
Speaker:Danny: counter that you mentioned obviously verbal diorama you know
Speaker:Danny: the way people perceive you and respect you
Speaker:Danny: do you make notes as an individual to get over there the parts that you aren't
Speaker:Danny: succeeding and becoming habits do you make notes of all the successes you are
Speaker:Danny: having to counter that so now you say okay you know what I am successful as
Speaker:Danny: you mentioned with the podcast and your approach to the indie podcast Cast Awards, et cetera.
Speaker:Danny: And gradually that list will become bigger than the non-successful list and
Speaker:Danny: then then you've won basically
Speaker:Em: Do you know what i've never actually thought of doing that before so
Speaker:Em: i might give that a go and see if that helps
Speaker:Em: me get over my yeah because i think it
Speaker:Em: is it is it all stems from anxiety and me.
Speaker:Em: My relationship with anxiety is very complicated
Speaker:Em: but anxiety fuels a
Speaker:Em: lot of what what I do um but it also fuels
Speaker:Em: it in a bad way because I have a tendency to overwork
Speaker:Em: and I have a tendency to over schedule myself and that
Speaker:Em: just does not help anyone so I
Speaker:Em: I'll definitely give that a go I'll write out
Speaker:Em: a list and I'll I'll see if that helps because
Speaker:Em: I feel like you have to fully acknowledge your
Speaker:Em: flaws in order to at least attempt to
Speaker:Em: be better you know a better a human being because there
Speaker:Em: are no perfect human beings in the world not even
Speaker:Em: keanu reeves even though you know he's very almost he's pretty
Speaker:Em: perfect he's pretty perfect isn't he um but
Speaker:Em: you know i i feel like there
Speaker:Em: there's gonna always be an excuse
Speaker:Em: to hold you back and it's it is
Speaker:Em: just taking that leap of faith
Speaker:Em: that's uh that's a line from a great movie called spider-man
Speaker:Em: into the spider-verse it's just a leap miles a leap of faith and that
Speaker:Em: scene just blows my mind all the time because it's beautiful but it's
Speaker:Em: true um sometimes you do have to take that leap of faith and it's you've just
Speaker:Em: got to get to that point where you're at the edge and you're ready to to do
Speaker:Em: it and it's for me it's getting to the edge you know it's it's that idea of
Speaker:Em: actually walking to the edge and and then taking the leap yeah all.
Speaker:Danny: Righty well speaking of leap of faith we're almost at the end we just have that
Speaker:Danny: one more leap to take okay so you're ready for this final question yep
Speaker:Em: Let's do it let's.
Speaker:Danny: See what we got
Speaker:Danny: Interesting. I feel this maybe is a follow-on from the last one,
Speaker:Danny: but let's see. Okay. Question number five, Em.
Speaker:Danny: What is the most difficult challenge thus far in your life?
Speaker:Em: Wow. These questions are really super personal.
Speaker:Danny: I told you this was going to be an easy episode.
Speaker:Em: I feel like this is a therapy session. the most
Speaker:Em: difficult challenge okay so the most
Speaker:Em: difficult challenge actually ended up
Speaker:Em: bearing amazing fruit so the
Speaker:Em: most difficult challenge that I have been through personally in my
Speaker:Em: life because you know we've all been through difficult things but
Speaker:Em: the most difficult for me was uh going going
Speaker:Em: through a divorce and the stuff
Speaker:Em: that came before the divorce because let's just say my ex-husband did a bad
Speaker:Em: thing and I found out about that from the person that he did the bad thing with
Speaker:Em: so uh so yeah it was going through all of that it was going through obviously the separation.
Speaker:Em: During a time when my anxiety was basically
Speaker:Em: peaking off the scales as well but going
Speaker:Em: through all of that is basically how verbal diorama actually came to be because
Speaker:Em: I needed something to focus on that wasn't all of that because my brain was
Speaker:Em: so there was so much going on in my brain because anyone who's been through
Speaker:Em: relationship troubles relationship trauma trauma, separation,
Speaker:Em: divorce, all of that sort of stuff, then you know it's a very kind of emotionally fragile time.
Speaker:Em: So you're very emotionally fragile.
Speaker:Em: You feel like your world has basically just crumbled around you and you have
Speaker:Em: no control over anything.
Speaker:Em: And that's basically how I found myself in that I felt like I had no control.
Speaker:Em: Because obviously, he had been off
Speaker:Em: doing his own thing uh and
Speaker:Em: and um I
Speaker:Em: had no control like zero control over anything
Speaker:Em: uh and the idea to obviously um separate and to get divorced was fundamentally
Speaker:Em: his idea because he was done so I I feel like when you go through something
Speaker:Em: like that and you have zero control the The first thing that I wanted to do
Speaker:Em: was I wanted a semblance of control.
Speaker:Em: And verbal diorama was that control. And so while it was probably the worst
Speaker:Em: thing that's ever happened to me in my life, and I would never wish it upon anyone in the world.
Speaker:Em: And I know people have gone through worse, and I'm not suggesting that it's the worst thing ever.
Speaker:Em: People have gone through worse. However, it's a very humbling experience to
Speaker:Em: go through, uh especially when you realize that the person who you thought that
Speaker:Em: they were is not that person.
Speaker:Em: I will say that he going through the separation and the divorce,
Speaker:Em: like he genuinely was, you know, a great person. He wasn't awful about it.
Speaker:Em: He was as supportive as he could be to me during my depression and anxiety and
Speaker:Em: all of that sort of stuff.
Speaker:Em: And I give him thanks for that because he could have walked away and he didn't.
Speaker:Em: But verbal diorama basically came from all of that.
Speaker:Em: So in many ways it's actually
Speaker:Em: a good thing it's actually you turn
Speaker:Em: a negative into a positive and it's and it's become
Speaker:Em: this uh this amazing thing that's
Speaker:Em: just this huge part of my life and had
Speaker:Em: i not gone all had i not gone through all of that then i wouldn't have all of
Speaker:Em: this and i wouldn't be here now talking to you danny because it was going through
Speaker:Em: that that kind of spurred all of of this to happen so while it was a pretty
Speaker:Em: horrible thing to go through I always kind of say well,
Speaker:Em: look at what it gave me it kind of pushed
Speaker:Em: me into this this podcasting arena that
Speaker:Em: I dabbled in before this verbal diorama is not my first podcast rodeo I dabbled
Speaker:Em: in it before and I enjoyed it but I kind of struggled to keep it going and with
Speaker:Em: all of this and everything going on I was like no I'm I'm focused now because
Speaker:Em: once I'm hyper-focused, I am focused.
Speaker:Em: So it's hyper-focused. Yeah, let's get this done.
Speaker:Em: Then my granddad died. So then it was like, oh, okay, now my granddad's passed away.
Speaker:Em: And it was basically a culmination of all of that, plus my granddad passing away.
Speaker:Em: I went to visit my granddad as he was lying in the funeral home.
Speaker:Em: And I said to my granddad, granddad, I'm going to do this podcast. And that's what I did.
Speaker:Em: Yeah it was it was pretty awful but i feel like i feel like something good came out of it in the end.
Speaker:Danny: And it's it's almost like full circle we started
Speaker:Danny: this episode talking about spirituality and afterlife
Speaker:Danny: etc and the slight you mentioned a slide indoors
Speaker:Danny: effect and that's a perfect example of
Speaker:Danny: it there had that awful experience not happened
Speaker:Danny: all the good things you're experiencing now and all the you
Speaker:Danny: know the the cool stuff that you're doing now with your creative life as well
Speaker:Danny: as your personal it would never or it may have happened but not to the level
Speaker:Danny: it is or not in a way it has so it's like you see we nobody likes to go through
Speaker:Danny: horrible examples of life but sometimes we have to go through that horrible
Speaker:Danny: stuff to really appreciate the good stuff that comes afterwards i feel
Speaker:Em: Absolutely no one knows what would have happened no one knows what's happened
Speaker:Em: to that other version of Em who's still married, maybe. No one knows.
Speaker:Em: I hope that she is happy, but I mean, chances are he might have still done that. I don't know.
Speaker:Em: But that's his sliding doors thing, his choice.
Speaker:Em: And he took his choice. But fundamentally, I feel like I did okay out of it. So yeah.
Speaker:Em: It's like life hands you, what life hands you, you know, if life hands you lemons, make lemonade.
Speaker:Danny: Or tequila.
Speaker:Em: Or, yeah, or, you know, put them in an alcoholic beverage and get completely drunk.
Speaker:Em: But I feel like we, like I said at the start, we have a finite amount of time on this earth.
Speaker:Em: I like to think that there is something beyond, but for the time that I am on
Speaker:Em: this earth, I want to be the best person that I can be.
Speaker:Em: Not necessarily a hero because I don't think I qualify but just be good and
Speaker:Em: kind and honest and have empathy for people and podcast because why not.
Speaker:Danny: Why not indeed well um I've
Speaker:Danny: really enjoyed this chat and I appreciate you being so
Speaker:Danny: open and transparent with your your answers
Speaker:Danny: I know some of we got real into the weeds there so i
Speaker:Danny: appreciate that in fairness in every episode i do throw the gauntlet or the
Speaker:Danny: gavel the judge's gavel if you like over to my guest because i've put you on
Speaker:Danny: the spot for the last 30 40 minutes or so it's only fair that you get to do
Speaker:Danny: that to me so am this is where you can throw your random question back at me okay
Speaker:Em: So this was the first question that came to mind so on verbal diorama uh i do
Speaker:Em: something called the obligatory kiani reference Now,
Speaker:Em: I've already mentioned Keanu Reeves because he is the best of men and I feel
Speaker:Em: like he always deserves at least one mention at all times.
Speaker:Em: But my question to you, Danny, what is the best movie starring Keanu Reeves?
Speaker:Danny: Oh, man. I mean, I guess the obvious would be his big blockbusters,
Speaker:Danny: which is obviously, you know, The Matrix and all such.
Speaker:Danny: Such um for me personally so i i love the john wick series um i don't think
Speaker:Danny: that's my favorite i love the john wick series um it's amazing but i think my
Speaker:Danny: favorite movie of his now is it best or favorite because they're two different things right let
Speaker:Em: I'll tell you what let's amend the question what's the best and what's your
Speaker:Em: favorite let's let's amend the question.
Speaker:Danny: So for the best, I'm going to go with Matrix 1. For the best for me, anyway.
Speaker:Danny: It didn't, because Keanu Reeves, and I think he'll be one of the first to say
Speaker:Danny: he's not the most gifted of actors when it comes to, you know,
Speaker:Danny: the gravita, but he does his roles well.
Speaker:Danny: He knows what he's capable of, and he does his roles well. And I thought the
Speaker:Danny: Matrix was a perfect, you know, vehicle for him from an action point of view
Speaker:Danny: and from a whole, you know, character point of view.
Speaker:Danny: Same with John Wick. I thought John Wick was amazing for Keanu Reeves.
Speaker:Danny: My favourite, though, is Point Break. Oh, good choice. Johnny Utah.
Speaker:Danny: Good choice. I just, I mean, when that came out, I believe I would be in my
Speaker:Danny: 20s, I think, when that came out.
Speaker:Danny: And it was just, there was something about it at that time when it came out
Speaker:Danny: and where I was in life at that time.
Speaker:Danny: Johnny Utah, Patrick Swayze's character, the whole, you know,
Speaker:Danny: the bromance between these two, the scenery, the surfing, the whole, the heist.
Speaker:Danny: It was just perfection. And I watched the, there was a remake of Point Break
Speaker:Danny: recently, if I recall. And I watched that.
Speaker:Danny: It was okay, but it wasn't Point Break.
Speaker:Danny: So I'm going to go with, yeah, it's a split between The Matrix and John Wick
Speaker:Danny: for best, but favourite would be Point Break.
Speaker:Em: I mean, they're all good choices, to be fair. uh I
Speaker:Em: would have accepted literally any any movie because
Speaker:Em: I I agree with you um a lot
Speaker:Em: of people say that he's a bad actor I don't think he is I
Speaker:Em: think he's a wise actor because I feel like he does choose his
Speaker:Em: roles very carefully and the only time he has kind of gone outside that is when
Speaker:Em: he was kind of earlier in his career and he was trying different things like
Speaker:Em: he did a lot of Shakespeare and stuff like that because he loved Shakespeare
Speaker:Em: so you know he did Much Ado About Nothing which he's great in,
Speaker:Em: by the way, and really, really hot.
Speaker:Em: But, you know, and people often point to Dracula.
Speaker:Em: Um as being the low point but it's an
Speaker:Em: outstanding movie it's a really good movie
Speaker:Em: and his performance doesn't take
Speaker:Em: anything away from the fact that's a great movie so I think
Speaker:Em: now he knows he knows what he can do
Speaker:Em: and the whole John Wick series I mean
Speaker:Em: they are incredible movies um I love
Speaker:Em: movies like that I feel like they are so stylish and
Speaker:Em: so well shot and the choreography is great
Speaker:Em: yeah and and he works to his strengths and
Speaker:Em: you know good for him I say because and obviously
Speaker:Em: he's a very attractive man I mean I don't think
Speaker:Em: there's anyone on this on this
Speaker:Em: earthly plane that we're currently on maybe
Speaker:Em: in the spiritual planes as well who wouldn't who
Speaker:Em: would deny Keanu Reeves because he's good looking man and he's a good kind man
Speaker:Em: so I think many will look up to him as a hero row for his various charity work
Speaker:Em: and stuff that he's done in the past um just kind of linking it back to all
Speaker:Em: the other questions there but yeah those are great choices and.
Speaker:Danny: Speaking of kind and known media em where can people find you and check out
Speaker:Danny: your podcast obviously and get to know the cool stuff that you do in the independent
Speaker:Danny: podcast awards if they want to be involved in that if they're in the uk for
Speaker:Danny: example where can everyone find you
Speaker:Em: Well so first of all i just wanted to So huge thank you for having me,
Speaker:Em: Danny. It's been so much fun. A little bit deep, but a lot of fun.
Speaker:Em: And if anyone is interested in finding out more about Verbal Diorama,
Speaker:Em: then, well, you can find me on any podcast app that you found this podcast on.
Speaker:Em: Just search Verbal Diorama.
Speaker:Em: There's over 260 episodes now. And it is a film history podcast.
Speaker:Em: So I like to talk about the history and legacy of movies you know and movies you don't.
Speaker:Em: And it's a lot of fun. I'm a huge movie nerd just generally,
Speaker:Em: but I love film history and I love the stories behind the scenes and I,
Speaker:Em: Yeah, every week. It's full on research every week.
Speaker:Em: So it takes me a long time to put these episodes together. But it's so much
Speaker:Em: fun to do. And I learn something every week.
Speaker:Em: So if I learn something every week, then I'm hoping that the people who listen
Speaker:Em: are learning something every week as well.
Speaker:Em: Find me on podcast apps. My website is verbal diorama.com.
Speaker:Em: And I'm all over social media, at Verbal Diorama, whether that's Twitter,
Speaker:Em: Instagram, Facebook, Blue Sky, Letterboxd, whatever.
Speaker:Em: I'm all just always at Verbal Diorama. And people can feel free to get in touch
Speaker:Em: with me and talk to me about movies because that is the bread and butter.
Speaker:Em: And that's what I love to do. So yeah. And just on the Independent Podcast Awards,
Speaker:Em: submissions are closed for this year now.
Speaker:Em: We're actually in the process of judging the submissions that we currently have.
Speaker:Em: Have however I think the chances are
Speaker:Em: fairly good that we'll probably come back for a year three I can't
Speaker:Em: confirm that at this stage but I think I think we're probably
Speaker:Em: looking quite good but yeah we're going through judging at the minute and the
Speaker:Em: ceremony itself is in October so uh yeah fingers crossed for all of those uh
Speaker:Em: amazing podcasts and uh I think nominations I think are going to be
Speaker:Em: announced in september after judging so yeah i guess if you are a british or
Speaker:Em: irish independent podcast and you're interested then keep an eye on social medias
Speaker:Em: and stuff like that and i'm sure it will be announced as soon as possible uh
Speaker:Em: if and when year three is taking place awesome.
Speaker:Danny: And i'll be sure to leave all these links in the show notes so whatever app
Speaker:Danny: you're listening on or if you're listening to this online on the website be
Speaker:Danny: sure to check the show notes afterwards and all the links will be there.
Speaker:Danny: So again, I appreciate you.
Speaker:Em: Thank you, Danny.
Speaker:Danny: Thanks for listening to 5 Random Questions. If you enjoyed this week's episode,
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Speaker:Danny: through Princess Street and see someone in the background waving her arms and
Speaker:Danny: sporting a big cheesy grin, that might be me.
Speaker:Danny: But seriously, if you did want to leave a review, you can do that at fiverandomquestions.com
Speaker:Danny: forward slash review. It would make my day.
Speaker:Danny: Until the next time, keep asking those questions.
Speaker:Music: Music
