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108:: Being in the same moment with a million strangers (the science behind the World Cup & America's 250th birthday!)
Episode 1366th July 2026 • Wellness Big Sis: The Pod • Dr. Kelsy Vick
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Two things are happening simultaneously right now: America's 250th birthday and the World Cup on American soil. And the intersection of those two things raises a genuinely interesting health and wellness question — what does the research actually say about shared experiences across cultural lines?

In this episode Dr. Kelsy Vick brings her honest, all-angles approach to one of the most talked-about cultural moments of 2026. The science of collective sporting experiences, cross-cultural contact, social connection and longevity, team sport vs. individual sport, and 250 years of women in American sport — all covered with the complete picture, not just the highlight reel.

What you'll learn:

  • What the research consistently supports about shared experiences and collective events
  • The contact hypothesis — what it says AND what it doesn't
  • Why the South Korean and Mexican fan moment at the World Cup is both real and more complicated than the coverage suggests
  • What a systematic review of 29 studies and 239,000 adults found about team sport vs. individual sport and mental health
  • 250 years of women in American sport — the real numbers on both the progress and the gaps
  • Where the honest limits of the "shared experiences change you" narrative actually are

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Welcome to Wellness Fixes the

Pod, a by Maven Media production,

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where we believe you deserve real

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I'm Dr.

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Kelsey Vick, your board-certified

orthopedic doctor of physical therapy, and

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the curious girl who wants the truth.

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So welcome.

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Your seat is waiting for you

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america turns 250 this week.

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The World Cup is happening

right now on American soil,

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and I keep coming back to this

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One observation that I think is

worth an entire episode and the

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perfect Fourth of July episode

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There's something specific that happens

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When humans from completely different

contexts, completely different cultures,

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completely different environments

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up in the same moment together.

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Not just emotionally when we're cheering

on the same team, not just physically

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when we are standing right beside someone

else watching a Fourth of July parade

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or cheering on a team at the World Cup

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But also biologically, psychologically

and what happens innately in our

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physiology when we're in these

sort of environments is something

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that I think is super special.

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Welcome back to Wellness Fixes the Pod.

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I'm your host, Dr.

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Kelsey Vick, a board-certified

orthopedic doctor of physical therapy

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and a pelvic floor physical therapist.

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And there are two things that

are happening simultaneously

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in the month of July.

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One we celebrated last Saturday.

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This episode will release Monday, but

we are about to celebrate July 4th

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at the time of this recording, and

the World Cup is going on right now.

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And both of these two events and bringing

people together, especially from different

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walks of life, strangers celebrating,

whether it's cheering on the same team,

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whether we're celebrating America's

birthday, it's something super special.

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And I don't know if you guys are like

me, but the media coverage surrounding

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the World Cup and all that's happening

has been super-duper healing.

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Seeing people from different countries

experience America for the first time

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and having these new experiences to

them, watching America through their

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eyes has been like the best birthday gift

ever, I feel like, for me as I celebrate

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my own country's 250th anniversary

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It's another way that I've

realized the world is a whole lot

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smaller than what we think it is.

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Seeing all of these people from all

different walks of life, getting to

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travel in my own life and visit different

countries, I realize that there are people

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out there who are just like me, living

in their own worlds, living in their

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own environments, and I've been blessed

to get to experience that in certain

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countries, and it's a real blessing to

see other people experience my own country

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in the way that people visiting for the

World Cup are experiencing it right now.

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there is something that happens when

a group of strangers gather together

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and all experience the same

thing at the same time.

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And research is just starting to scratch

the surface on what this actually means

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and to help explain that feeling of

camaraderie that we get And it's more

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biological than what we might expect

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So in 2024, there was a super

comprehensive study done

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On social connection and health

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They found that social participation

or participating in these communal

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events with a lot of other

people, even if they're strangers

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is one of the most consistently documented

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and strongest predictors

of wellbeing and longevity

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They found that having more of these

social connections, social interactions,

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social contacts plays a super beneficial

role in our brain health, primarily

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lowering the risk for dementia

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They also found that these brief

interactions with strangers, so not these

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deep friendships that we've done a lot

of episodes on before, but what they

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call weak tie interactions with strangers

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contribute meaningfully to happiness

and the sense of belonging that we feel

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The Fourth of July parade, the

World Cup, the watch parties

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All of these are structured

forms of social connection

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that create opportunities for

these high density, weak tie

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interactions with strangers

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in a shared both like physical context

at the game or at the parade, but also

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in a shared emotional context as well

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So what is the active ingredient among

these shared experiences, the shared

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participation in some of these events?

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How does it actually help us

physiologically and help things like our

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brain health and our risk for dementia?

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It comes down to this shared emotional

experience, this collective gasp, this

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held in breath as you're waiting to

see is that penalty kick gonna go in

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The simultaneous sigh or cheer or reaction

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The unified attention on the same

event, Which in our day and age is

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very challenging to have a group

of people focus on something and be

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attentive to something for that long

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All of those things appear to be

the active ingredient, not just

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physically being in the same space

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A little disclaimer here though, it's

hard to study this sort of thing.

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I know we all feel it, but

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Is it because we're actually partaking

in this shared experience, this both

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physical and emotional experience

with others that we're getting

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some of these health benefits?

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Or is it because we are naturally

social people going to these events?

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A lot of the people going to these

events might be naturally social

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people, and naturally social people

have improved health outcomes.

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It's hard to distinguish, but there's

something definitely there, and especially

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with Fourth of July, with the World Cup,

I like to believe that there is this true

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benefit from being with others and being

emotionally connected and participating

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in the same social event with other people

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So there has been some research on

social connection for a nationwide event.

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So something like the 4th of

July, like national pride.

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What does that actually do

to our emotional wellbeing?

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They found that participating in these

events and going to these parades

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produce these feelings of connection and

belonging that last well after the event

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I think of this when it comes to

big events like the World Cup and

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the Olympics, and the amount of like

pride that I feel in certain athletes

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from my own country and being able to

cheer them on, but also even feeling

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connected to athletes from different

countries and cheering them on because

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their stories are similar to mine.

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All of these things play into that

sense of cohesion and connection and

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emotional well-being that the research

is trying to explain and actually

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get more objective data on One

of the other things I've noticed

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during this time is this sort

of adoption between countries.

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So I think of it specifically with

South Korean fans and Mexican fans

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during this World Cup, where because

they were in the same city, in the

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same proximity, they started to

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I guess have these sort of

cross-cultural shared moments.

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And I saw a lot of my South Korean friends

when Mexico ended up going further and

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South Korea ended up out of the World

Cup, that they sort of adopted Mexico

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as the team that they were cheering for.

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And I know that happens so often

throughout the World Cup as each country

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in this sort of knockout round gets cut.

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A lot of other people and

a lot of other nations will

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adopt another team to cheer for

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And when I looked into this sort of

shared cross-cultural experience The

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study that was done originally on this

was done in:

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and duplicated in the decades since

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And it tried to establish a framework

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for what happens when people

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from different cultural backgrounds

share a similar experience

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And they called it the contact hypothesis

So the consistent finding was that

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direct interpersonal contact between

members of different groups under

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conditions of equal status and shared

goals reduces prejudice with the effect

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being stronger when the contact involves

genuine cooperation or shared emotional

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experience rather than mere proximity

And the World Cup creates almost this

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perfect example of this contact hypothesis

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Fans from different countries sharing

equal status as spectators unified

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by the game that they're watching

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And frequently experiencing

the exact same highs and lows

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So the South Korea and Mexico fan

moment is what researchers call

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A superordinate identity moment

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where a shared higher level identity,

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So fans of super exciting

football or soccer And people

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experiencing the same match

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temporarily overrides lower level

distinctions between these groups So

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things like nationality, language,

However, the research does say that

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this is highest, the strength of this

is highest during the experience.

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It doesn't necessarily

last long term after.

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It might be why we feel so connected

during other countries during the

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Olympics, and then after a little bit of

time, we revert back to what we know and

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our own backgrounds that we come from I

think this is really cool as Americans

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and Canadians and Mexicans because we are

seeing so many other countries and so many

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other people from so many different walks

of life experience what we know as normal.

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And I've heard parents explain it that

when they have kids, it's like seeing

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the world through their kids' eyes.

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And although I don't have kids, I

feel a similar way where I'm starting

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to have this new perspective on my

day-to-day life through the eyes

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of people who don't experience and

don't live in my day-to-day life.

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They're experiencing my culture, my

background, the country where I live in

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the way that I wish I could experience

it every day, where everything feels

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so new and so exciting, even something

like a yellow school bus or Bucky's.

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It has been so fun to, visualize and see

the beauty that is our country through

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people from different countries and

different backgrounds, especially as we

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celebrate July 4th, which I don't think

it could have come at a better time.

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I think it's just the perfect sort of

250th birthday gift for our country

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to be able to witness our own country

through the eyes of other people

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And they found that this sort of

like structured new perspective, like

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putting yourself in the shoes of other

people experiencing something for

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the first time that is your normal

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has real psychological benefit.

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I'm sure a lot of people who study

meditation and different forms

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of meditation, I know one form

you take a step out of your own

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life and view you as a character.

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I think of that in the same way

with this experience And there's

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a term for this experience called

re-enchantment through witness

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It's a temporary reversal of the

normalcy that we see every day.

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It's witnessing things through new eyes.

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It's that re-enchantment of the normal

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What happens is we stop really seeing

things that we encounter regularly.

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It starts to become this normal for

us that our brain just passes through

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This repeated exposure

to the same experience

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or the same environment

reduces our brain's novelty

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response or newness response

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which reduces our engagement with that

new experience or that thing that we

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see every day on our morning commute

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Which further reduces the actual

depth we feel during that experience.

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I don't know if you get this way,

but sometimes when I'm driving to

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work, I zone out and I'm like, "I

don't even remember passing that

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grocery store that I typically pass."

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Or on your morning walk, I just zone

it out where if I'm road tripping

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to a new environment, we just got

back from Yellowstone, and I was in

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the car and all of these things are

so new to me, and I felt like I was

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witnessing this beauty for the first

time, even though my own environment

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at home has beauty in and of itself.

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But my brain has just gotten so used to

the same experience, the same commute

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every single time, that it doesn't

necessarily have the same response

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because it is something that I am

experiencing as a daily normal pattern

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Now, this research on specifically

re-enchantment through witness is

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pretty limited and mostly theoretical,

but it ties into another concept that

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they are trying to explain a little bit

better called psychological richness.

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And they've grouped this a little

bit with travel, where experiencing

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new things, experiencing new people,

getting this sense of belonging

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having exposure to these

more diverse perspectives

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contribute to our overall health

and wellness different from

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life satisfaction and happiness.

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So they're trying to describe this

overall psychological richness

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that is a separate component than

just happiness or life satisfaction

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And they state that travel is one of the

highest forms of giving yourself this

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exposure to potential increases in the

psychological richness of your life, but

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also having people come and re-show you

how amazing and wonderful your day-to-day

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life is also a way to, develop a deeper

sense of that psychological richness

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Now, the World Cup is not

just any sporting event

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It is the largest team sport

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collective experience on the planet

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And the research between team

sport and individual sport on our

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mental health is something that

I feel ties into this episode.

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We've talked about the collective shared

experience of fans, but how does being

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on a team and being part of a team,

especially in sport related to the

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World Cup, affect our own mental health?

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So from a study done in 2019, team sport

athletes were significantly less likely

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to report anxiety or depression than

individual sport athletes, 7% versus 13%.

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However, they do admit that both

of those numbers are lower than

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the general population average.

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So athletes in general report lower mental

health challenges than non-athletes,

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but team sports specifically has

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a lower likelihood of reporting anxiety

or depression than individual sport

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athletes They propose that team sport

provides an environment of shared failure

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and shared success, where if you fail,

it's not just on you, it's on your team.

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Where individuals, if

they fail, it's on them

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And the research links this sort

of like internal weight of failure

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and internal attribution, what

they call internal attribution

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after failure to depressive symptoms

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Another study in 2023 found that adults

participating in team sport had more

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favorable mental health and social

outcomes than those in individual

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sport, and those participating more

frequently reported the greatest benefits.

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So a lot of the studies done have

been done in youth and adolescents,

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but they're also finding that team

sports in adulthood has similar mental

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health benefits and social benefits

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They've also found That watching

team sport does seem to recruit

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some of the same social bonding mechanisms

present in team sport participation

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So here are a few caveats to this

research, because it's definitely a lot

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harder to study because you naturally have

this sort of bias when you're studying

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people who participate in sports or like

to go to sports and watch as a spectator

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So number one, there is

a selection bias problem.

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As I said, people who self-select

and actually go to sports might

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have a better social life.

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So if they're studying this brain health

and overall well-being of spectators

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of sports, how much of that is related

to actually spectating the sport versus

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just the likely hypothesized increased

social health of these individuals?

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Same with people who travel.

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Is the travel actually deepening

the psychological richness?

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Or because of the privilege that

people naturally have when they

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travel, like travel is in and of

itself a very selective and exclusive

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group of people, is that actually

contributing to psychological

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richness, or is it actually the travel?

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And most research that actually studies

those things can't separate the two

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The research on all of these studies

also consistently says that all

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of these are a temporary result

of an event or an experience.

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They're not sure if that lasts long term.

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From a subjective experience, like any

time I travel, I feel like it opens my

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mind to other cultures and other things.

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It does carry back with me into

my normal everyday life, but

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it's very hard to study that.

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So I understand that a lot of these

findings are in the event, in the moment,

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during travel, during that sporting

event versus being able to study, did

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that World Cup experience actually

affect someone and someone's health

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long after the event actually ended?

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I think one of my favorite parts of travel

is that it does make the world feel a

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little bit smaller, where even going

halfway across the world, I realized

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these people are also going to work

and taking care of their families and

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eating breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

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It's just funny that I like to be able

to experience someone else's world, even

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if they're doing the same things as me.

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It makes it feel smaller.

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And I understand that experience and

that way of thinking is also a privilege

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The world feels smaller is a tough

descriptor for me because my world

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feels smaller because I'm able to access

other parts of the world, where some

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people, the world might feel infinitely

larger because they're not able to

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access certain parts of the world.

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So it's this, dichotomy with travel

and with these social experiences that

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we've talked about in all of these

caveats, but in order to experience

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the world in this way, it comes with

it a certain amount of privilege

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The research also notes that the

same experiences that promote

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connection can also promote rivalry.

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There are these super extraordinary

moments of fan connection and

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shared experiences and shared wins.

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But on the flip side, there's

also documented violence after

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some of these things, Some that

have already made headlines during

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this twenty twenty-six World Cup

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So the bottom line is that these shared

experiences, things like the World Cup,

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things like Fourth of July celebrations

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produce real biological

and psychological effects

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But those effects are based on

the environment that you're in,

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possibly a little more temporary

than we'd like to believe and not

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equally accessible to everyone

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The warmer, cozier, fuzzier version

of this story is fun to share, but I

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feel like it was incomplete without

some of these sort of caveats on this

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research and just experiencing some of

those collective sensations as a whole

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America turned 250 this past weekend.

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The World Cup is here

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And something is happening in the

parades, the stadiums, the watch parties

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That the research is just trying to

explain and can't fully grasp yet

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The South Korean and Mexican

fans in the same corner

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The international visitors scene,

the Buckies, the Waffle House, the

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yellow school buses The stranger

next to you reacting to the same

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fireworks, the same parade as you

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All of these things matter.

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Even these weak tie interactions

that we have with strangers at

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events like this when we travel,

these things actually matter for

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our sense of belonging and wellbeing

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But it's honest that not everyone

has equal access to all of

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those things, and the picture

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of all of these experiences includes

complications and challenges

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But the feeling we get itself, that

the world feels a little bit smaller

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And that people are way more similar than

it seems or than the media makes it seem

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That's very real.

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So happy two hundred and fifty-th America.

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Happy World Cup to all of those watching.

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I hope you enjoyed this episode.

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If you made it this

far, thank you so much.

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I enjoy doing these every single week.

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shows with certain health and wellness

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