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EP # 249 The impact of the World Cup on American and global culture.
Episode 24915th July 2026 • Dont get this Twisted • Dont get this Twisted
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Join Robb and Tina as they catch up on recent events, share their thoughts on the World Cup, soccer, rugby, and the culture of sports. This episode explores how sports bring people together and reflect on personal experiences with sports and social gatherings.

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Robb (:

And welcome to another show of Don't Get This Wisted. I am Rob along with my co host as always, Tina. How you doing, Tina?

Tina (:

I'm hanging in there, Rob. How you doing?

Robb (:

Doing all right. we're we're a week behind cause we had some personal things that that kinda stopped us.

Tina (:

Yeah, family family stuff needed to take precedence. Sorry guys. It's been a it's been a hell of a week.

Robb (:

Yes. Always. Always, always, always. I I would tell you that if you if we miss a show, it's ninety-nine percent family. R rarely do we do it just for shits and giggles.

Tina (:

Yeah, for sure.

Tina (:

Or we're sick.

Robb (:

Or we're yeah, yeah. That's inter Any

Tina (:

And you know what's funny is is getting sick is is not cool anymore. Like you don't just get a little cold. Like you get really freaking sick. I don't know, since it seems like since COVID, every time I get sick, I am dying.

Robb (:

No.

Robb (:

The the funny thing is is that though that even so we how many times we've done this show super ill like just horribly sick.

Tina (:

Yeah.

Tina (:

There was one time I was so sick I was crying and just horrible and I had to do the the podcast and I I manned up and did it and went right back to being sick and crying 'cause I was just achy and not feeling good.

Robb (:

Yeah.

I remember that too that it was like 'cause I remember editing that one and it was like I could hear you mute on the other side. And then Yeah, and then come back and talk and then mute it. Cause w when I edit it on the on the audio trail, there's like a really big spike when you hit the mute button. So I know I know where to to see it at. So it was kind of interesting.

Tina (:

To blow my nose.

Tina (:

Well, I'm good I'm glad that you know that though, because there are times where I can't I just I can't stay online for the whole hour we're doing this. It's crazy. But you you've gone through it too. You all the y with your surgery and and and being sick, you poor thing have just come in you're like, I wanna die.

Robb (:

Yeah, it's

I've been yeah, we've done a lot of

Robb (:

Yeah, we and we'll we power through so. so just so you guys know, w this is episode two hundred and forty-nine. So the week after this will be two hundred and fifty. So we're gonna make it to actually two hundred and fifty. Which is kind of ironic.

Tina (:

Dop

Tina (:

When when we start yeah, two fifty because of it being the Yeah. That's crazy. I didn't think we'd get past ten. W I think that was the goal at first was to get past ten.

Robb (:

Of the United States being two fifty, kinda funny.

Robb (:

I I mean, yeah. Yeah. The goal was in the very beginning that the cause I remember reading up on podcasts at the time in 2021 and they said most don't get past eleven. And I was like, okay, I we are gonna get past at least eleven of these. Cause I wanted to be like outside the minority of of people who give up on these things, though.

Tina (:

Yeah, that was the goal.

Tina (:

Well, who knew? Two hundred and forty nine episodes later.

Robb (:

correct. And and truly the the long the bigger picture is we've had over thirteen thousand downloads. So yeah. Thirteen thousand downloads. let's see. I thought it had here, let's see if this shows what it is.

Tina (:

That's cool.

Robb (:

'Cause somewhere it has like the all time people who've actually listened. It's pretty wild.

Tina (:

Hm. That's cool though.

Robb (:

Yeah, it's gnarly. It's like you sit there and you're like, yeah, like that's it's a lot. It's a lot of it's a lot of P I wanna say that it's like four thousand people and thirteen thousand downloads or something like that. It's pretty cool. We've hit every fifty states. We've all over the country, all over the world. Pretty wild.

Tina (:

Yeah.

Tina (:

Interesting.

Robb (:

So speaking of the world, we were we were talking about the World Cup before we got on here.

Tina (:

Yes.

Robb (:

And and you were like, let's talk about how people are starting to understand soccer more.

Tina (:

Mm-hmm. I I've never been a fan of soccer. even when I was married, my ex liked to play and so did my daughter and I worked on Saturdays, so that was my excuse not to not to n you know, just not to watch all the games and and and also it it gave my my ex and my daughter who who's adopted gave them a chance to bond. So I kinda left that alone and gladly because soccer's never been my thing but

Robb (:

Not to know anything.

Robb (:

Right.

Tina (:

But as of late with the World Cup, you can't help it. It's on every restaurant. It's on at on my friend's house. People are having viewing parties. And so I, having time, got into it. And I'm enjoying the World Cup. Like I I was kind of sad Brazil, Mexico, the US, they're all out of it. But man, those people are amazing how they could play. And

They I don't know, they kind of gave me a a reason to respect their game for sure. 'Cause they're kicking ass.

Robb (:

It's so for me, I'll I'll like I don't like soccer. I but for different reasons. I'm not a big fan of it because I think it's a bunch of guys who just fall down when they barely get hit. so like there's a great meme that I have and it's like you the things that would make soccer better, and it's like

take players off the field and make it, you know, six on six and then make the field shorter, put ice skates on and make it ice. And then basically make it hockey. Cause it's look, they're very similar sports when it comes to being a goal on each side and like

Tina (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

There's an offside rule and a bunch of other things. But so for me it's very difficult to watch. I just think like, okay. But when it comes to the talent of the people playing, it's incredible how talented they are. I mean, it they're they're hitting goals from super far out.

Tina (:

Yes, absolutely.

Robb (:

Like, you know, f thirty yards away. That you know, it it's it's pretty amazing. What I like about what's going on is is how people have become fans, even though it might be for a short time. You know what I mean? Like people are watching the World Cup. it'll be interesting to see how the ratings are now that there's only f you know, a few teams left in it.

Tina (:

It is.

Robb (:

but that being said, you know, now that Mexico's not in it and the United States is in it and Canada's not in it, so the three countries that are hosting it, it it definitely makes it a tad harder, I think. But if you're a soccer fan or a football fan,

I think that it's going to it's going to be big. Like the the f finals are going to be a lot bigger than than people think. so we're recording this on a Saturday. So I know Belgium's in it. No, I'm sorry, Spain and France have already gone through as of right now.

and then today it's Norway and England and Argentina and Switzerland. So after today, which is Saturday, but you're hearing this on Wednesday, the pretty much by the time you hear this, everything will be almost taken care of. Wednesday, so Tuesday will be France and Spain.

Tina (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

And then Wednesday, the day that this is out, will be the last two from the four I just said. So by you know, next Sunday the World Cup will be

Tina (:

It'll be done. And I think my beer drinking days will be done too because it seems like it seems like every time I I go and watch the game I'm drinking. I and I don't even drink, so who knew.

Robb (:

It'll be done.

Robb (:

Ha ha ha.

Robb (:

Yeah, a couple get a couple beers in.

Tina (:

Get a couple in, yeah. Watch the game, act like a fool. I don't know. I I just I'm just digging I'm just digging it. I I like how everybody's getting into it. Like everybody's gonna be such a freaking commentator after this. Like they're gonna know their shit when it comes to to soccer because they've watched the World Cup. That's not true, but I'm saying you know, it's funny 'cause now I could I could say, did you see and and talk about it? I didn't

No shit about I didn't know a shit about soccer.

Kind of cool. It's kinda cool. But I like rugby. If you've ever watched the animals that play rugby, those are my people. The men are built like brick shit houses. They're cocky as hell. They're there's no way they're gonna let somebody get over on them without a fight. I there's something so primal about that. I love it. You know, watching guys be guys, because you know, even in football now, a football for me is kind of taking a back seat because they can't

Robb (:

Right.

Robb (:

They yeah.

Tina (:

do anything there's all these new rules there's you know they're they're they're taking the fun out of watching people crash into each other and rugby they don't even wear pads. I I'm amazed. I love that.

Robb (:

Right. Yeah, it's rugby's a whole other level of violence.

Tina (:

yeah, it's fantastic. It's like how hockey used to be too, when they could like beat on each other. I don't know why I like that. Mm-hmm.

Robb (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

Well, because it's primal. I mean, you could if you wa like my whole thing is this is if you like rugby, watch hockey for a season. You'll never go back because it's way faster. The hits

Tina (:

Hockey, but hockey they use pads. I like seeing these guys just go.

Robb (:

That's that's true, but they wear pads because they're going thirty miles an hour.

Tina (:

Whoa, you should these rugby people ain't going much less. Like have you watched a rugby game?

Robb (:

I I think the the Yeah, the fastest runner I think only goes like I wanna say eighteen miles an hour.

Tina (:

Yeah, but at they're going for that ball at eighteen miles an hour and everybody else is too. Like it's I don't know. I I I like hockey and I would never miss a chance to see a game. If somebody said you want to go, I would go. I don't buy tickets to go, but I would do that. But rugby, ooh. I'm amazed.

Robb (:

Yeah, it's pretty pretty wild. So the the peak guy in of running this is a runner like a Usain Bolt, the hundred meter, he went twenty seven miles an hour. Pretty fucking crazy. Yeah. But he's the fastest man on the planet. Yeah. So I think the average person runs like you know, you can run like fifteen miles an hour. I

Tina (:

Easy. Yeah. Okay.

Tina (:

I can't.

Robb (:

My thing with rugby is the that they just r run into big blocks of other human beings. Like that is

Tina (:

They all run together and then they bounce off each other, fall down, and then somebody ends up with the ball. It's great.

Robb (:

Yeah, it's pretty wild. And have you ever seen them where they pick each other up to catch it? So I was watching I'm gonna say an Instagram video, but I'm not sure. But it was women's rugby. and the shit these girls were doing was crazy. They like lift each other.

Tina (:

Yeah.

Tina (:

I can't remember that woman's name that just lifts her lifts them up. But she looks like is she a man? Is she a woman? She's kinda got like she's scary. She's freaking scary.

Robb (:

yeah.

And the the legs on these human beings are and I have I have big legs. I have like my calves are eighteen and a half inches around. These girls have like thighs that are they gotta be in their twenties. Like they're just these, you know, massive muscular and they also do the same thing. Don't wear any pads. I I

Tina (:

Beefy.

Tina (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

I'm assuming that it's a little lighter because of like I don't see a lot of headgear on the girls where like the men, the men wear headgear. Because like or at least some of them. Because they'll end up getting they'll end up getting cauliflower ear. You know, from getting bashed in the ears so many times. Kind of like like UFC fighters. If you've never seen a cauliflower ear, people.

Tina (:

Yeah.

Tina (:

no, I have a friend that's a UFC fighter and he has just one. One of his ears looks like it's been brutalized a little bit.

Robb (:

Robb (13:56.913)

It man. I I've seen some guys that if you've never seen cauliflower ear people, look it up. It it's crazy. It's so it's so brutal. Like the whole of your ear looks like it's like a pin drop because there's so much cartilage that has been swollen and then it won't go down.

Tina (:

It's crazy.

Robb (:

It's pretty crazy. With all that's going on, I I think that like we talked about it last week. I think the best thing that happened is all these people from other countries have come to America and have realized that like this is a really cool country. the the partying alone

I think that some of the videos that I saw from the English and the Scottish and the Germans where they didn't realize that we could party so hard. I I thought that was the best part. They were like

Tina (:

There's no race that can't party.

Robb (:

Right. No, but it was inter because I think that they had this, you know, like everything, they had this pre-consumed notion that Americans couldn't go.

And they were interviewing some Scottish dudes and they were like, yeah, these people in Boston can drink, man. He goes, Will they're you know, walking with us hand in hand. And even the flip side, the people in Boston were like, these Scots do they can go. Like they drink and they party all night. And then they get up the next morning to go to a soccer match at like 10 a.m. Like and then like I said last

last week on the or the week before on our episode, they don't tailgate in Europe. So so like it's a new thing for them, which a lot of them were like, man, I we I we want to do this at home. Like we gotta find a way to like you know, I I haven't been to a a live game in quite a while just 'cause it's it's gotten well out of hand price wise.

Tina (:

Tina (15:51.958)

Yeah.

Robb (:

But the last game I went to was probably about ten years ago. Went to a Raider game in Oakland. And I hadn't been in so long and I never realized like people bring when I mean barbecues, I'm not talking like Yeah, I'm not talking about a fucking hibachi. I'm t yeah, like they gotta drag it on a a dually. Yeah.

Tina (:

They're bringing pit barbecues sort of things, yeah. Right.

Tina (:

On a trailer. They got it on a trailer and they're rolling it in.

Robb (:

I was like, this is the greatest thing in the world. Like, and and I look, Raider fans get their own shit. Yeah. And and look, I'm a Raider fan. And and I will tell you that Raider fans are special. but I will tell you that like I I saw more so I went and saw they were playing the Colts at the time.

Tina (:

Yeah.

Tina (:

They're a little out there.

Tina (:

Mm.

Robb (:

Raider fans were beating each other up. They weren't even beating Colts fans up. It's it's almost it's like kinda like Dodger fans. Dodger fans love fighting each other too. Dodger fans are just Raider fans in the off season.

Tina (:

Yeah, sometimes they get into it, that's for sure. there that there's some truth to that.

Robb (:

Truth. Yeah. Dodger Stadium right now is a fucking dangerous place to go. Like, there's fights in the parking lot every single time you go there. It's insane. Not like it was when we were younger. but like I found that to be interesting. That like, and people were offering food to everybody, like, hey, come on, you know, blah blah blah. So I think with this soccer being, you know.

It's in Texas, it's in LA, it's I don't know if they're tailgate in LA, but they're tailgating in Texas. And all these people just are so amored by like how people are here. They're they're nice and they're having a good time and they're offering food and they're drinking with them. I think it's making

Tina (:

But don't say anything about their team, or that'll change quickly.

Robb (:

Probably, but I think that for the most part, like

If you're not one of the big teams, and and I mean that by like favored, I'm sure the the guys from Scotland that came here gave two shits that they lost. Did they want to go far? Probably. But they hadn't been there in I think like I think it was like 25 years or some shit. They didn't care. They were like, we're in the World Cup, let's go to America and party. So it you know, I think they've they've realized, kind of like we do,

It's about going to the game too. You know, y you can go to a game and you can lose and you can leave going, you know, it was a good game. At least we had a good time, we had fun. I think Americans now are kind of seeing that's how soccer is. Where you can go to a soccer match, people are generally good. You know, there's not they're not fist fighting down the fucking aisleways.

Robb (:

Learning the game is difficult for me. Like well, I take that back. With the exception of I I the off sideline moving it baffles me. because I'm a hockey player and I understand there's an off sideline. So it moving all the time is very difficult to me. But I I can't lie and tell you that I haven't watched a lot of Matt. We have it on at my work. Yeah.

Tina (:

Hm.

Tina (:

Really?

Robb (:

You know, I I work in wholesale distribution. We have one, two, three, four, five. There's like six TVs that are on in my work and when soccer when we World Cup's on, we watch it. So I've watched a lot of soccer. so it it's been fun and and there's a c I would say most of the people at my work

Tina (:

Mm.

Tina (:

Very cool.

Tina (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

quote unquotes aren't soccer fans.

Tina (:

No.

Robb (:

They're just they're getting involved because it's a huge event that means something to the planet.

Tina (:

Well and people are talking about it. I mean, I've been in so many places where they're like, did you see the soccer match? And I'm like, I know I'm missing something because everybody's talking about it. So I I've been turning it on and watching it more

Robb (:

Mm-hmm.

Robb (:

Yeah, it's it's a it's a cultural event. Look, if we wanna be perfectly honest, like the Super Bowl has forgotten how many people watch the Super Bowl. I'm gonna look it up. But Super Bowl's great. how many people

Tina (:

I love watching the Super Bowl.

Robb (:

it's a lot. And then I'm gonna tell you how many people watch the World Cup. So s well, look, that to be fair, the NFL right now is worldwide. It's it's huge. So the total audience is about a hundred and thirty million people to watch the Super Bowl. A hundred and thirty million people.

Tina (:

Well it's the world versus

Tina (:

Okay.

Tina (:

Hundred and thirty million.

Robb (:

I mean i I I know that like w we're we're spoiled by like you know saying a million, but a hundred and thirty million people, that's a lot. That's like half of the United States. So how many people?

Tina (:

Is no joke.

Tina (:

In and h how many does the the World Cup?

Robb (:

It's it's gotta be it's gotta be insane. Like it's gotta be insane crazy. so total people watch the World Cup is about between one and five billion.

Tina (:

So one hundred and thirty million to one point

Robb (:

million. Between one and f between one and five billion somewhere in there.

Tina (:

one not one point five one to five billion. Shit.

Robb (:

Two five. Yeah. So the two thousand twenty-two World Cup, five billion people engaged in the whole tournament. The the finals of of two thousand twenty-two was one point four billion people watched one game in two thousand twenty-two.

Tina (:

How many how many years does it take before there's another one? Every four years? So it's like the Olympics, only for soccer. Okay.

Robb (:

It's it's every four years. Yeah.

Correct. So:

Tina (:

Wow, so it's going up quite a couple couple million every couple

Robb (:

Yeah, it it's yeah, every couple years. Which I'm sure two thousand twenty-four or two thousand twenty six will probably be at least the same, one point four. You know, I think with with America probably watching more, it might go up. 'Cause you know there's we we here in America we love to we like to pile on things that are popular at the time.

You know, the Olympics, we do well.

Tina (:

You know, I'm not big on that, but for the World Cup, because it's it's been on everywhere, you can't help it. It's it's like we're it's almost like it's forced for us to to watch it. It's it's everywhere. Like I c I I have not gone to a Mexican restaurant in weeks where they didn't have you know, where they have like seven or eight different TVs and and every last one has a soccer game. You can't help it.

Robb (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

Yeah. Games.

Robb (:

Yeah. There there's a there's a place, my favorite Mexican place down the street from me. There's soccer there every single time you go in. Yeah. Unless it's Sunday. Unless the NFL's on. I and baseball. baseball's pretty big. Dodger games are always on there. But besides that, like

Tina (:

Really?

Tina (:

Dodgers are doing fabulous too. They're ahead by like ten games or something.

Robb (:

Yeah, we watched we went in there one time, me and my boy went in there to get food one day, and there was like three different soccer matches on. Because like they'll they'll put on soccer from England, you know, like all the different leagues all over the world have games, so it it's the biggest sport on the planet. For good reason because you can play it for free.

Tina (:

Wow.

Tina (:

Yeah.

Tina (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

that's not a knock, it's the truth. Like like when people go, you know, blah blah blah, and I go, look, anyone can play soccer. If you can get a ball, anyone can play. And people do. Not not for not for playing football as you get older. Like you have to play in pads.

Tina (:

That's kind of the same for football. That's the same for

Robb (:

Where and like you can't just go play ice hockey. Where you can play basketball. Basketball can be played in the park, the same with with soccer. what I'm trying to say is that it it's you're you're thrown into it at a very early age if you like soccer, mostly all over the world. Where like, you know, if you're if you live in Ireland, there's a there's a

Tina (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

soccer field somewhere or a pitch. Sorry, I gotta use the right word. A soccer pitch. but so I I understand why it's so big because yeah you're you as a child they go go go kick the ball outside. You know what I mean? Like go do it. Where I and I think look there's a lot of sports even here. Baseball, if you got a glove, a ball and a bat, you can find a way to play.

You might not play a full game, but you can find a way to play around. Basketball, very similar. Football, you can do it, but not on the level you at some point you have to put pads on to become, you know, a professional player.

Tina (:

Yeah. I have I have a set of friends that started playing on Thanksgiving morning and I've gone out to see them just because I like to do that and they don't have pads on and they brutalize each other. It's a great game. But they're it's flag and they're still going at it and I don't know. It's so much fun to watch. There's something wrong with me.

Robb (:

no, that that you know

Robb (:

Those those Thanksgiving games can get a bit out of hand.

Tina (:

Everybody goes home messed up. It's hilarious. Like how many how many ice packs? Last year it was how many ice packs do I bring for these fools that are gonna play? And I have these little ones that they're probably about four inches by about three inches maybe. They're just little tiny ones that you put in a little ice chest. But I bought a twelve pack because when you're riding you could stick one in your pants and it keeps you kinda cool 'cause it gets hot on a bike.

Robb (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

yeah. That's a great idea.

Tina (:

So I brought I brought all of those and every last one of got used and then my friend had some and hers got used. She had about six. So we had about I don't know, eighteen of them and they all got used that year. It's hilarious how they are.

Robb (:

Yeah. It's it's a brutal thing where I I mean, look, I I there's a park not too far from my house. Like I can walk there. But I usually throw my dog in the car so he can stick his head out the window and we go over there and I put him on a thirty foot leash and I walk with him.

Well, obviously, with the with soccer, they play soccer there all the time. And it's really wild because since the World Cup's been there, I haven't seen him play in a while. Yeah, like they it's like they must put games on for like, you know, like if Mexico was playing, they probably changed the game to a different day. So they could play. Because everyone wants to go watch the game. But I've seen some

Tina (:

no way.

Tina (:

Yeah, it's kind of fun.

Robb (:

Just walking the dog around, I've seen some pretty brutal like slide tackles on, you know, and and they're not kids that are playing in these rec leagues. They're they're you know, they're like 30 and 40-year-old men. Maybe even 50. So a and then you'll see like

I I like to watch because I'm obviously not a huge fan, but I understand the game and I know the flow, the ebb and flow of the game. And it's funny to watch them kind of far away because I can tell you who the twenty-year-old is. Because he's just running circles around. Running circles around dudes. And you're like, there's a young guy. And every team's got one or two of

Tina (:

Yeah.

Tina (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

And they're generally like midfieldmen, you know, midfield or forwards guys that can score. It it's fun to watch. And and they'll just run circles around these poor old guys. And in my head, I'm like, hey, wait a second, I I'm the old guy. Like, that's me. But I'm so beat up. I I you know, even messing around. I I thought about before I had my shoulder surgery. I was thinking they're like, it would be really fun to play like in a softball league.

Tina (:

Right, right.

Robb (:

But then I as before I got my surgery, I as I was throwing the ball around, I realized like I I can only play second or play first because I can't throw the ball anymore. Like my arm is just not strong enough. and now it'd be interesting once I get my my throwing motion back, I'm hoping maybe it'll be stronger. You know, because it's

Tina (:

Yeah.

Tina (:

I I don't know. I I remember I used to be

I used to be a catcher and I was really good. I could be squatting and throw the ball and pick somebody off at second, at third, no problem. No problem. Never even get up. And when I started shit, this was years ago. There probably twenty years ago. So I was like thirty five, thirty-six, I couldn't throw anymore. I lost my ability to throw and I was shocked. Like I was like, why does that go away? Now piss me off and I

Robb (:

Second. Yeah.

Robb (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

Yeah.

Tina (:

could throw something at you and hit you right in the head with it, I could I'm still accurate but it's gotta get that level for me to be able to to do it. I have to be mad.

Robb (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

a and I'm sure that if you know, if you started practicing again, y it would come back because there is that motor skill would pop back in at some point. You might just have to do it. Yeah. Well, and it's muscle memory. It's your your body remembering how to do it. It's just, you know. it's kinda like me. Like I've I haven't been in a wrestling ring in a long time. Like

Tina (:

Well, it's the muscles that need to pop back in to get the Yeah.

Robb (:

For real. Like I haven't been in a ring in like twelve years. But I've been in a ring and I've ran the ropes a couple of times and like just for giggles. And you know, it is there's muscle memory you have to relearn, like timing and how to do this and so I think with any sport it's the same. You you would probably get back to it. Now, I bet you that even if you got your

your muscle memory back, it would kill your arm. Like the first couple of times, you would go home in so much pain you'd have to ice it. Because your body is like, I haven't done this in so long. What are you doing? Yeah, I messed around one time hitting some balls with a friend of mine. It

Tina (:

In a bazillion years, yeah.

Robb (:

Just grounding balls. And I was like, man, that was so much fun. And I went home that night and my rib cage hurt so much from just just from twisting. Because your body isn't used to it. And I was like, yeah, I'm I'm not in good shape. I need to I need to fix this. So so through this, the bigger question for for us is

Tina (:

Really?

Robb (:

So do you I'll throw it out there because I we talked about it off air. Do you think that because of this World Cup, obviously being in North America, do you think it's going to drive the level of interest up? Do you think soccer will be

better like on a on a level of not just people playing because I think everyone plays. It's do you think like 'cause we have a professional team in LA. There's the galaxy. There's there's do you think it's gonna help that at all or do you think it's well it'll just go right back?

Tina (:

I think it is. People are digging people are digging the the soccer matches. So I wouldn't imagine once you once you're hooked you're in, you know.

Robb (:

I hope so. I think it'd be good for the sport. unfortunately, come August, football starts. And I Yeah, but I just think that look, the NFL in America, as much as people like to say that that baseball is America's game, football is America's game.

Tina (:

Absolutely.

Tina (:

Well, and that I love to watch.

Tina (:

You know, I had a I have a lot of friends that are saying that they're not watching football anymore because it's fixed. And I mean they really like last year they were on it. Conspiracy theories, all kinds of shit. And I don't know I don't wanna know. I like I like watching football. Don't tell me. Don't fuck it up for me. I just wanna watch it and I hope it's not.

Robb (:

I mean

Robb (:

I mean, here's my argument to that. This is my argument when people tell me crazy shit like that. And here I am the professional wrestler in a in a quote unquote sport that is not real. In that case, everything is fixed. Everything. Every sport, every election, every everything. You then you can fix the world. Because

Anyone can take a bribe. A coach can call a bad call or purposely that he knows isn't gonna work. There's just just watch it for what it is. Like, cause if because if you sit there and start really thinking about things, you'll think the world is not real. Your vote doesn't count. The sports you watch aren't real. You know, it's it's too easy to fake something. It just is.

Tina (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

We live in a world of, you know, AI now. AI can is getting in ten years AI there'll be full movies that aren't real with absolutely not no person in them.

Tina (:

I have a friend who's starting a business and it's a lot of a lot of the a lot of it will be online. Like that's how he's gonna draw people into the business and it's

It's he did a couple things where it was AI like made the thing that was gonna be posted through social media and it didn't quite look like him and it's weird. It's weird to see like it it looks like the person, but it

Robb (:

It it doesn't.

Tina (:

It doesn't have it's missing the essence of who a person actually is. And and that AI stuff is kinda creepy to see that. I I didn't I was like, What the hell'd they do to your face? And y is this your twin? It's not you. Like you know, of course I made fun of everything 'cause that's what I do, but it just felt it looking at it, it it didn't sit right with me. I don't know why, but

Robb (:

Correct.

Tina (:

maybe if I didn't I don't know, I think that if I d still if I didn't know him, I would still look at that and go, What's wrong with it? It just feels off. AI feels off to me.

Robb (:

It it it feels like it has no soul.

Tina (:

I don't know if I'd go that far, but it's it's kinda creepy. Yeah, it's kinda creepy.

Robb (:

See, to me, that's what it feels like. Because you can tell you can make eyes blink and eyebrows go up and mouths move. But there's something to how you're

Tina (:

It's called feeling.

Robb (:

Well how your face, yeah, feeling, but like what and that's what I mean by they have no soul. Like it's just it's has no feeling. It's just like very blocky. Hi, I am Rob and I'm going to talk. Like that's No no i I mean i well, some of it's not. So I've heard some pretty good stuff. I saw a movie.

Tina (:

it's still not smooth like that? Or it's not like how we talk?

Robb (:

And again, it it was very, very short. This guy was trying to show you how the future was. I think it was like six minutes of a movie that he made completely with AI. And and it looked almost spot on real. And I'm talking everything: backgrounds, foregrounds, color, people. It had multiple people in it.

It still felt a little off. A little here's the better word I think I can use, Tina. It felt robotic. Maybe that's that's the s the the word I'm kind of looking for. Everything seemed robotic. So, you know, but this is what? What generation of AI are we on? I think the like a chat GBT is like five in.

Tina (:

Yeah, it still does.

Robb (:

Like this is still new. I hope not. I hope that it doesn't look I think AI is cool, it's fun, it has its place, but it should never replace human beings. Cause when it does, then it doesn't matter anymore. We're already we're already gone.

It's it's kind of like using it for this show. I I don't mind using AI to go, hey, what should we talk about? And it can give me a list of things. But when we just program something to have our voices do a show, then it's already over. So because there that gives you feeling. They they're a hundred percent.

Tina (:

You know what? That could actually be done right now. They could take our episodes and do that. That's kind of creepy.

Robb (:

A hundred percent you could do it. Because that the there's a way to you teach AI to learn our voice patterns and how we speak. And then you just go, Hey, give me an audio show with this topic using our voices. No, because here's the thing. At some point, well, first of all, I don't think it would ever work because AI would never cuss as much as I do.

Tina (:

Yeah, that's not gonna happen.

Tina (:

You don't think so?

Robb (:

No. Well you'd have to tell it to. Do you know what I mean? Like if if you just typed in use our voices and do a show on, you know, computer graphics, it would do a complete show on there. But if you'd listen to the show and and it I didn't say the F word five times, they'd go, That doesn't seem like Rob. And if you didn't I I know you probably don't realize it, but I listen to you a lot. You know, you have a certain laugh.

Tina (:

Do I?

Robb (:

Yes. So like when you laugh about something, you have a certain laugh. AI, unless it listened to multiple shows, you know, you'd have to train it to understand that you laugh a certain way. So like this is where like things would go off the boards. So sure, can you fake sports? Absolutely. I think that there's you can you can say they're fixed all you want. Yes, because there's money involved.

So yeah, you could totally do it. I I think it's a bit harder with like things like I mean I guess you could do it with soccer, but it would be very difficult because there's so many players. You know, like you'd really have to you'd have to have a lot of people on board. Where in like football it'd be a little easier.

at least to shave points. Same in basketball. If you were just shaving points, you just have your best guys make sure they miss a couple. So the spread is there. But I mean, I'm hoping that from this Americans who really didn't like soccer or really didn't know much about it, maybe that will

raise up professional soccer here because you know there's soccer fans or soccer fans are soccer fans they're going to go watch that team regardless you know of anything exactly because they're fans and they want to see it like I'll go watch minor league hockey I don't give a shit I'll go watch anyone play just because it's fun to watch but

Tina (:

Mm-hmm. I think that's for fans of any sport. They're definitely gonna gonna do that.

Tina (:

Why not?

Robb (:

to further the sport in America because they want to further the sport in America because I'll tell you that there's there are professional teams across the nation that don't do well. And it's probably because they're in like Kansas City where they, you know, they're just not the game isn't for one taught as readily.

And or they're just not fans because there's you know, they have the Kansas City Chiefs and football's so big. So there's a there's a lot to be said. I think it's a great thing, this World Cup. I think it's been nothing but good for the sport. It's been good for nothing but North America to have all these games and have all these people come to all three countries. I mean, Mexico, I'm sure that there's

Cause there's probably a lot of people who went to Mexico who had never been there from like non-Spanish speaking countries.

Robb (:

Where, you know, and then obviously America with our reputation of being shitty and rude and all these things, that probably helped us because these people are finding out that we're not. so I I think the World Cup has been great. I I'm hoping that that the finals is a good matchup. You know, I hope you know, I I don't know enough about the teams.

But I know that you know, you want the two best teams to be there so people watch. You don't want you don't want a Cinderella kinda getting in. I h if the best way of putting it. A Cinderella story is great, but if they get into the finals and then they get their ass beat, it's not a Cinderella story. So, I I've been watching France and they are

Tina (:

Right.

Robb (:

Absurdly amazing. That team is really, really, really good. like really good. So it'll be interesting. They're gonna play Spain.

Tina (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

And England and Norway is today. I'm kinda I I like Norway just because I like the the Viking brothers. Th those are the guys that got in trouble for for taking their team picture dressed as Vikings. Did did you hear that? Yeah, they got in trouble over it because of course everyone who is a big panzey ass was like, it's toxic and you know they're you know, the Vikings were horrible. Yeah, yeah, they were.

Tina (:

No

Robb (:

But if you're gonna do that, then you know, every country on this planet's gonna have some problem with it. You know, like get over it. But it was cool. They all had shields and swords and like had their hair and br you know, big braids and everything. It was really bitching. the the guys who had longer hair. Like any of the guys who had long hair had braids.

Tina (:

What?

Tina (:

All of did or just like a few?

Robb (:

And then obviously it w not a lot of did because long hair isn't the thing to do these days, but there's a the one lead guy. He has really long blonde hair. He wore a braid and they were all dirty and they looked like Vikings. They look cool. Like it it was a neat thing. I

Tina (:

I have a a f a client whose husband has long hair and he's very like into his herit heritage and he comes in and has me braid his hairs for different events like where he wants, you know, that sort of look that's and believe it or not, it's kinda popular. There's a lot of guys that want to do the braids on top and make them look like I don't know. What's what's the name of that?

Braveheart. Make look like they're from Braveheart. It's hilarious. But I love doing it 'cause I've done some pretty cool braiding and and such. And they're so freaking masculine too. I'm like, why are you coming into a beauty salon getting your hair braided and you're acting like you know. I think they're funny, but I enjoy doing their hair.

Robb (:

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it

Robb (:

Yeah. I may

Robb (:

I don't know. like for my tenth my tenure high school reunion, you gave me a really bitching braid, so I had a big long 'cause my hair was really long at the time too. It was like like middle of my back. So it was like I had a really big, big, thick, fat braid. It was bitching. so, you know, last words are

Tina (:

Yeah

It was

Tina (:

Nice.

Robb (:

I think this has done nothing but help the game of soccer. and I think it's helped.

Tina (:

For sure.

Robb (:

the world actually see that America is a pretty cool place with cool people and it's not it's not what the news is telling him it's it's you know and it's soccer fans. I think that that's the other thing too. I kind of saw a few videos on YouTube and the guys were like, yeah, I'm shocked that people in America know the game. And I was like, that's kind of a that's kind of a good thing. Like

It's not just a bunch of people showing up because it's the cool thing to do. People actually went and know the game.

Tina (:

You know, I I don't understand why anybody think that. Because we well, and then I think California's different because it's just right it borders Mexico and and everybody in Mexico seems to know the sport well or play it or both, you know. So to me it's like, how would you think we wouldn't know? Like we're made up of of huge Mexican culture. But that's here in California, I gotta think like

Robb (:

Exactly.

Robb (:

Correct.

Robb (:

Yeah, it's not like

Tina (:

I go to the east coast, I I got my tortillas in a can. So way different situation. But here, like, yeah, of course, we'd know something about it. No, it's not. No, you're right. I've been to Boston, but not Alabama. I could only imagine, but I'm yeah.

Robb (:

Yeah.

It's not like that in Boston or or Alabama.

So

Robb (:

Yeah. So I think it's learned a lot of people.

Tina (:

I I'm liking that everybody I'm I'm liking that it's bringing people together because I've been in a bar and it's been on and then I get these drunk guys coming and sitting down at the bar. Are you watching the game? 'Cause I'm clapping with and you know, that that kind of part of the camaraderie that comes from being a part of of a sport or or watching it or or I don't know, just being around people that are drinking, I guess.

Robb (:

I totally agree.

Robb (:

Yeah.

Robb (:

Yeah, it it's cool as fuck. It it just is.

Tina (:

It is fun. It it's a it's a neat way to get out and meet people and learn something new 'cause like I said, soccer was not my thing at all.

Robb (:

Yeah. I mean mine either. And I'll I'll be perfectly honest. I didn't I've I I can't lie and say I didn't watch some of the last World Cup. Because I see I did only but I'll tell you why. Because it's it's the best of the best. That's why I like watching it. Because like it is the greatest players on the planet.

Tina (:

I didn't.

Robb (:

Playing for their home team. So it's cool. but I I probably didn't watch as much. I would probably watch a few games here and there. Where this time, since it was on at my work, I watched, I've probably watched over the last

Two and a half weeks, whatever games were on during the daytime. So I've probably seen, you know, yeah, 10, 12 matches. So a lot of fun. All right, teen. Well, we'll cut it off here for the day. thanks everybody for listening. We're sorry about last week. We'll get back on track, we hope, with no other family issues.

Tina (:

Quite a bit.

Robb (:

throwing wrenches in it. keep checking us out online. We're we're on pretty much every podcasting place you can see. then that's that's it. It's an opinion show. Don't get it twisted. Keep coming back every Wednesday. That's Tina. I'm Rob. We'll see you in a week. Bye.

Tina (:

See ya.

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