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This is eccentric podcasts.

Something like, sir, thanks a lot.

Back in the shadow, back in the game.

Yes, sir.

Episode 115.

115.

You forgot to say that.

Yeah.

Oh, that's right.

Episode 115.

I was counting.

Seven, huh?

Yeah.

Ascension, the lift of God, episode 115.

Yeah, man.

So, yeah, just racking them up and making our time, bro.

My wife was asking me.

She was like, why don't you journal anymore?

I was like, I do journal.

I just.

Yeah, no, Stepped up to modern time.

Yeah, absolutely.

No, this is journaling, and it's just journaling our thoughts and then putting our canvases together, allowing the world to see it, and then using the.

The canvas to take the next step, you know, and that's been our process.

To me, journaling is just exercising the mind.

That's right.

It's like hearing your thoughts out loud, manifest them stronger and faster than keeping them in your head.

Facts, bro.

Well, at the same time, we function as each other's mirrors to, you know, sharpen each other's sword and keep it.

Keep us.

Our purposes aligned.

Exactly.

You know, it's like.

It's making sure we all.

We go into your.

You go into your universe, I go into my universe, then we come back here to recalibrate our purposes, to remind ourselves of.

Okay, there's a reason why we're doing all this, and we're on a path, and we're.

We're in the Nation of Islam.

We're foi, and we got a task ahead of us.

And this is the journaling of our purpose intertwined with our doingness of getting stuff done in the material world, period.

So let us open up in prayer.

Absolutely.

Bismillah Ira Manirhim Alhamdulillah Rabil Alamin.

Arachman.

Arachman, Irahim Maliki, Omidim Yekanabadu.

Guide this conversation.

Guide our minds, loosen the knot from our tongues and have a speak on the topics you would like us to speak upon.

As we allow this time to reset and align ourselves even further and deeper.

With your purpose we love and serve you alone Ameen me.

So I'm still.

Still on that cleanse.

And it's.

It's just.

It's going deeper and deeper.

And I don't feel the need to, like.

Because I. I've, like, audited and I. I see all the.

All of the.

The tendencies that I don't need to do.

The parasitic tendencies, the antagonism, the.

The need to prove myself.

So, like, those are, like, fading away.

And then now it's like, a feeling of, okay, what do I do?

Yeah.

What do I do now?

A lot more time on your hand.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I've always had that time.

But now that time's not filled with, like, those, like.

I gotta get them thoughts or I gotta.

I gotta.

Yeah.

Urges, compulsions, bad thing.

Negative thinking.

Now I'm just like.

I could just be here.

And it's.

Maybe that's just peace.

You feel me?

Yeah.

That's the piece that the people are afraid of, too.

Yeah.

When you got the parasites, that's not.

It's not.

Being in that place where you have time to think is not peaceful.

Yeah.

But once you've gotten rid of the parasites, you know, that is peace.

That's, like, where you have quiet of mind, quiet of spirit.

That.

That's right.

Nothing but time to create.

Think deliberate on.

What is this?

That's next.

Yeah.

And it's.

I think it's good timing because as we talked.

The last episode of the Final Call, the minister's face, and it said, behold, I make all things new.

So with that issue of the Final Call, it was looking like we're getting a mosque in Los Angeles on.

On Broadway.

51St.

51St and Broadway.

New mosque, new mindset.

So you and I have already had this conclusion is like, we have to, you know, operate as if we're starting brand new as well, you know, and not.

Not let go of commitments you made.

But just like, I think, look at what we're doing with a fresh look.

You feel what I'm saying?

Perspective.

New.

There we go.

New mindset.

New perspective.

And then use that new perspective to make the best choices in present time.

Yeah.

You feel me?

I feel like this whole.

The whole world is, like, turning the chapter at the same time, like normally.

Go on.

Yeah.

People are all like, everybody's doing their thing.

Yeah.

But this is the first time in a long time that we've all been on, like, the same page and in so many different things.

Go on.

I mean, just like everybody's desire to get closer to Spirituality right now, everybody's desire to get away from whatever it is our politicians are going through.

Oh, yeah.

Well, what do you.

What are you seeing in the.

In the world?

Because I think you're more tapped in than I am.

I mean, it's.

It's the same thing.

It's just ramped up.

Okay.

I feel like it's.

Everything must go sail.

That's a good way of describing it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And everybody that's.

That's in a position to buy are buying.

Yeah.

And so people that are not in a position to buy are just, like, watching everybody scrambling.

Like, what do I do about it?

Yeah.

Some people who have the lack mentality are like, I gotta get in that scramble.

I gotta figure out how to get mine before it's too late.

Yeah.

And the fact that they don't have the resources to do anything about it makes them feel this sense of unyielding panic.

Yeah.

So there.

There we go.

They're all scrambling.

Yeah.

But at the same time, people who don't have that lack mentality, they're like, this is a new chapter.

Boom.

I'm not getting in that.

I reckon that we're not playing that game.

No.

We're not buying toilet paper during a pandemic and waiting in line, I'm buying.

Some toilet paper, but I know where to buy it.

We're not playing that game.

No, no, we're not doing that.

But it's the same psychology of, like, you're.

Oh, you posted something online with ants going in a circle.

The death spiral.

The death spiral.

Everyone just following the leader, but the leader is.

Just.

Doesn't.

It's just following the other.

And everyone's in a circle.

And so everyone just in a.

In a cycle of death.

Yeah.

And I saw that, and I'm like, okay, one.

That's the world.

But that's also just.

You know, this is the reality right now is people don't know who people are just following and they're running fast in a circle while they're just.

They're dying.

Yeah.

So, I mean, and all.

All we can really.

Like, we can't stop anybody who wants to be in that circle.

No, not at all.

There's no compulsion in Islam.

All we can do is, like, stand on the outside of the circle and.

Be like, hey, that's it.

That's it.

But that circle, it has mass.

It has.

It has a lot of motion.

So many people doing it.

That's right.

And it's like, how do you not do what everybody else is doing?

You in.

Because it has.

It.

It has its own gravitational pull that will pull you in if you don't have that distance or you don't have the strength to stand on your own.

Yeah.

So we can do that, but we have to be mindful of not getting caught in the energy of that.

What's the word?

Perpetual motion.

Perpetual motion.

But there's the energy that's caused by a pen, like a pendulum or something, swinging a lizard.

Word type of energy.

I know what you're talking about.

Yeah.

That.

That type of motion, that type of energy.

Don't get caught in that because it will pull you in.

Yeah.

And specifically, when I took it on a personal level, it's like, we all have, like, cycles, like.

Like the seasons.

Like, you can't get out of the seasons of planet Earth.

But I also see it in, you know, the nation or any organization like you.

You have people that just go with the flow for.

For better.

That's not hating.

That's just reality.

I mean, and if the flow is a good flow, it's not a bad thing.

Exactly.

But I don't think the Nation of Islam was ever designed to create more.

I call them sheeple.

Yeah.

No, I feel you.

Like, since I was little, I had this, like, running joke in my head that, like, don't be a sheeple, because then all your view is assholes.

Like, that's real.

That's what.

That's.

The video said.

It's like you're following someone's ass.

Yeah.

Like.

Like you don't have a choice because you don't have a good view.

Yeah.

You don't have a perspective because your view is booty.

Oh, like this is not a good view.

Absolutely.

The only one who has a good view in that pack is the one in the front.

Absolutely.

So if I'm gonna be anybody, I'll be the one in the front.

I feel you, but I. I just caught myself.

I realized we have a leader,.

But our leader wants to make us leaders.

I understand.

Okay, go on.

And our leader is not.

He's not another sheep.

Not at all.

You know, quite the opposite, actually.

So if you're following the leader, that's not a sheep you're not looking at.

If you're following a bunch of sheep.

Yeah.

That's your view.

Understood.

You know, I pay attention to a man who wants to show me greener pastures.

That's right.

I'm.

I pay attention to a man who wants to, you know, broaden my horizons.

Yeah.

You know, his goal is to keep me healthy.

Is not to just endlessly follow a loop that does.

Absolutely.

That I don't have any say in or anything like that.

Absolutely.

And he encourages us to study everything out there.

That's right.

You know, to be wiser, to be inquisitive.

Study everything.

He's not, he's not encouraging.

Including the Bible.

I'm just saying that because I've heard, I've heard stuff online about Muslims like look, orthodox Muslims hating on other Muslims for studying the Bible.

And I was like, okay, that's just.

Stupid because they don't read the Quran.

Real talk.

They're just watching other.

They don't read.

They don't read.

They don't understand it.

Prophet Muhammad said, I did not come here to change.

I came to, to basically like propagate what Jesus was doing.

Absolutely.

The real Jesus.

The real Jesus.

That's right.

And so like if your viewpoint is that just reading the Bible means you're a Christian, you're lost.

That's right.

Studying other religions is never supposed to be a bad thing at all.

You're supposed to be able to look at that and take the blessings from it.

That's right.

I say it all the time online.

It's like if Moses and Abraham and Jesus and Muhammad sat in a room, they would be laughing and joking and talking with each other about how much they love Allah.

They have the same, they love God, have the same master.

Yeah, easy call.

Yeah, easy, easy call.

And like that's, that's a no brainer.

But the people in each of these quote unquote religions, they, they, you're right.

They don't want you touching other religions because you don't even know your own.

You haven't seen, studied the actual text and scripture of your own faith.

You don't understand what you say you believe.

Yeah.

That makes you a sheeple.

That's right.

And that's, that is the quote unquote negative cult part of religion.

And all quote unquote religions have that part.

Yeah.

So what I'm starting to see is like the people who are, that are studious in all of the face are going to be more aligned with than, than those in the face who aren't studious.

Those are called leaders.

Exactly.

Those are people who have a broader perspective.

That's right.

They're not letting fear guide them.

Boom.

So if I'm in a pack and all I see is assholes around me.

Yeah.

I'm going this way.

Real talk.

I need a different viewpoint.

That's right.

I need perspective.

That's Right.

Because that's the way my mind works.

Yeah.

I'm.

I can't just follow because everybody says follow.

It's not in.

Yeah.

You know, I wish it was.

Sometimes I see it as being easier, but I'm not.

I can't do that.

Yeah.

And that's what makes you and I both alike.

If they're both like, I ain't doing that.

Like, easy.

Like, easy.

Like, it's instinctual.

Like, we're not doing that.

I will follow if it makes sense.

But you got to explain it to me.

Yeah.

You can't just say, follow me because I said so.

Like, that's right.

It's not gonna happen.

No.

Sorry.

We.

I'll go off the cliff before I.

Do that, before I follow that.

So.

So there we talked about, like, this.

There's cycles, like, in just like the seasons.

The.

The.

This current cycle of the Roman Empire.

You know, the mosque, we have a cycle.

You go to Sunday meeting, we got foi.

Like, there's.

There is a.

There's a blessing in structure and discipline, you know, and there's like a circular rhythm to our behaviors and our conduct.

But I'm asking us, how do we avoid being the sheep following each other's rears in that circle.

In that circle.

So I think perspective.

Perspective, but also keeping mind that we don't follow each other.

We fought.

We have a.

We have a.

We have a clear leader, you know, and that makes it very easy for us.

It's like, do what he.

Just do what he says.

Yeah.

You know, and if you're not doing what he says, you're following somebody else.

That's right.

Yeah.

And you're in that circle.

Yeah.

So it's like, we don't.

And also let's be.

Let's be like, just, I guess more mathematical.

Like, there's our cycle.

The Nation of Islam is to pull you out of the cycle of the Roman Empire or just the.

The.

The mess, you know, the physical reality, just to get you on a new cycle that's more in a line with Allah.

Right.

So we.

We do, like, regularity, purpose, and discipline.

So it's.

It's like elevating to another circle, but always keeping your eye on the ball, which is the leader and then who's his thing?

Allah.

You know what I'm saying?

So I think the solution to not just following the rear and just dying in that circle of stagnancy is what I saw.

Stagnation.

Yeah.

They weren't going anywhere is to.

I got an image of like, instead of a flat spiral.

A spot, a staircase.

It goes up, you know, so you still have the cycle, but each your eyes always on Allah, is always on the leader.

So you're always going to be upward motion.

So it's not to, I think, not to have a negative attitude towards cycles and not try to fight the cycle.

The only discipline, the only thing that makes the cycle bad.

Yeah.

Is you've returned to the starting point and made no progress.

Boom.

Yes.

If you're going up a spiral, it's still centrifugal motion.

That's right.

But it's good because you're making progress.

That's right.

You're going somewhere, you know, that's the goal of it.

That's right.

You know, and I think.

And everybody on the staircase has a different perspective.

That's right.

You're not just looking at assholes.

That's right.

No, you're looking.

Get a viewpoint.

That's up.

You're on an upward slant.

And I'm realizing not everyone is on the upward staircase.

There are people who just like being on the bottom floor and they don't like those who go above them or.

Whatever floor they're stuck on.

Because you got.

No, that's real people on the first.

Yeah.

People on the third.

It's like you got to get out of that and go up.

That's right.

If you don't go up, you're going to get stuck, you know, and so, like, that's actually, I feel like the goal of the.

The enemy of God.

Absolutely.

To get people stuck.

That's right.

I think that's what trauma is for.

So trauma does to you.

It gets you stuck.

I think that's what all the distractions, all the different, you know, food options, all the different TV options, all the different music, all of that stuff adds to it.

Absolutely.

And.

And if it can catch you, it's just a fisherman trying to catch as many fish as he can.

That's right.

If you happen to be a fish and you caught and you.

Death.

Yeah.

That's what the goal is.

Huh.

And you get stuck in a spiral.

That's right.

It happens.

That's part of it.

Every mini.

Are called fewer chosen.

Yeah, I'm.

I'm just.

I'm.

I'm literally seeing like a spiral into heaven.

Like, that's.

That's my imagery.

And what the image that I just got in my mind is.

Oh, planets go in orbit.

Planets are.

They're always in.

There's a system.

There's a there.

We're not going to Be able to escape the motion, like the circularity, the rhythm.

It's.

It's rhythm, the rhythm of life.

It's.

It's global, circular.

It comes back around.

And we are literally Allah.

We are time, space.

We are that.

We are that matter.

So we're not gonna.

As long as we're here in this physical universe, we're not going to escape that.

And nor should we try to.

We shouldn't try to escape it.

We should just try to.

Ah, here we go.

Become Lord of It.

You know what I mean?

Master of it.

Master.

There we go.

Yeah.

You're not.

You're not just taking steps.

You're intentional with your steps.

Absolutely.

You're not just following the person in front of you because they went up.

You're understanding what that next level is.

Absolutely.

And I want you to.

Now that we're okay because we're talking, you know, in the physical universe.

So I'm starting to.

It's hard to describe, but I feel a separation between, you know, this reality, this physical reality, and, like, a spiritual reality.

And I want to hearken back to our, you know, the Matrix metaphors.

And I'm like, the.

You and I both know them.

We.

We communicated about the fields of bodies that are powering the system.

That it resonated with not only us, but with other people and other people calling you.

And, like, you know, whoa.

When you all put that out there, like, I. I think Sister said she saw, like, her family in the basement and they were in pods or something like that.

I've been.

I haven't really seen much, but I want to just, like, put this out there.

Just kind of where my mind and spirit have been going is like, just hear me out.

We have these physical bodies.

What Allah's kind of like, not showing me, but making me feel is like our energy, our eternal energy, our spirit, that whatever that form is in, as long as we're stuck in this.

In this realm, is actually in one of those pods.

And then this reality is a simulation because they've actually managed with everything they've gotten to subdue that part of us.

Does that make sense?

Yeah, but it's kind of scary to think about.

But.

But this is the pot.

Okay, go on.

Yeah.

So the way I look at it.

Yeah.

Like, this is who we are at this dispensation of time.

That's right.

And for however long this thing lasts is how long we're in this thing.

Yeah.

But.

And this is the part that's controversial.

I believe that before we got this.

Thing this body, this physical body.

And after we leave this body.

Yeah.

We go back to Allah.

Okay.

And we become a part of the all.

Yeah.

But we resonate with as many lives that we've touched when we were here.

Okay.

So, like, a portion of us lives on in their memory.

Yeah.

A portion of us still has recollection.

Yeah.

Because of the fact that there are people to remember us.

Yeah.

But besides that, we're just part of the collective consciousness.

Okay.

We're part of the all.

Okay.

I look at that as, like, just peace.

No, I feel you.

You know, peace in the.

In the.

Because most of the reason why people have turmoil is.

And suffer is because of a lack of knowledge.

Yeah.

When you're with God, you have all knowledge.

That's right.

So, like, you don't have any suffering.

That's right.

You just.

Everything you want to know, you have access to understand it.

Yeah.

Completely Living here on Earth.

Okay.

In this body.

It's a way for the collective consciousness to experience what it already knows.

Yeah.

To just to taste, touch, feel, smell, hear.

Yeah.

Understand what it already has foreseen.

Yeah.

Because it lives outside of time.

That's right.

You know, it's been here from the beginning, and it already sees everything that's going to happen.

Very true.

Knowledge and wisdom were different.

That's right.

And the difference is experience.

Yeah.

Experience allows you to understand to the point where you gain wisdom.

Understood.

So the more experiences we have while we're here.

Yeah.

The more we, as the collective consciousness understands.

Yeah.

The more wisdom we have.

Yeah.

So it's like this spiritual entrapment is limiting and painful, but it's also very beautiful in the greater concept of.

Or the greater perspective.

It has purpose.

It has purpose.

But we also chose it.

Yeah.

No, we chose the entire thing.

Absolutely.

Before we separated, we were like, I can handle that one.

All of what that.

That experience is gonna.

Gonna have, I can handle that.

And it's like, I think about it like, I imagine myself as God.

Yeah, Absolutely.

And I have to choose.

And he's like, so the experience I want you to have is like a baby that dies within a couple minutes of being porn.

Yeah.

And it's like, you don't have to do it.

I can give it to somebody else.

And you're just like, no, I could do that.

Okay.

I can handle that.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

We need the experience.

Yeah.

So, like, every experience has purpose.

It adds value.

Absolutely.

And it's not just the experience of being the child that has value.

Yeah.

It's also everybody that the child touched every spirit that the child woke up.

Every person that the ch.

That that child gave.

Yeah.

Some kind of a feeling to.

All of those are reverberating experiences.

Understood.

And they're all purposeful.

Yeah.

And they all change people's lives.

For the better or for the worse.

Absolutely.

At the time that they happen.

Yeah.

You know.

Absolutely.

That's the way I see it.

Yeah.

And I.

When you were talking like that.

It's like that realm, when we go back, there's no limitation on what that realm, the spirit can and cannot do.

So when you were talking, I had just the.

Just I felt the fact that.

Oh, okay.

At that level, what's.

No saying that that's our spiritual.

Whatever we are at that level, whether it's part of the entire collective or whether we're an individualized identity in that collective.

It.

That up there is.

It's not.

It doesn't follow the.

The rules of the physical reality of time.

It's not physical.

It's not at all soul.

Like, there's no saying that we could.

We could exist as.

I mean, not even.

I don't.

I don't want to say.

I mean, because, I mean, is your.

Your name right now in this.

This is in time.

In this body, who you are could exist in multiple time.

Multiple places at once.

You get.

It's not limited to just.

Oh, we're just right.

I'm only.

I'm only here right now at this table.

I exist deeper than that.

I've been here from the beginning.

Real talk.

And that's the.

That's the part that people get confused about when they talk about Jesus being, like, here from the beginning.

Yeah.

Like he's the.

He's the creator.

They think he's isolated in that they don't understand that's all of us.

That's right.

And so they give him this mantle that he never said was isolated for him.

He said, we are all God's children of the most high God.

That's right.

So, like.

Yeah, it's.

It's.

It's a limiting perspective that this world portrays as a system of control.

Absolutely.

What I do think is what we're on the path of is just picture this.

Like, you know, we're in these bodies.

Our.

I. I put out there that we can exist in multiple places at once.

But right now, you and I can't just.

I can't at least.

Oh, just go to those places and think about.

Think what's going on over there right now.

So I'm kind of like, Is it going to come to a point where we can.

That ability exists within us.

That's what I'm saying.

It's like, is that, Is that where we're heading on that evolution of being able to operate with the knowledge of all of us at this.

At.

If we're up there, if we're down here at once is.

Damn.

That's.

Oh, man, that's a lot.

That's what you get it.

Yeah.

Being able to access that.

Yeah.

It's something that every, like, supreme being.

Boom.

Automatically has.

Or a God maybe.

Just like.

Okay.

When you start doing.

Okay now, you could actually start running planets.

You can start running parts of the universe when you have that ability.

You know, right now we're growing up and we're growing into the thinking and beingness of Allah.

And as there's levels and there's steps to it.

I don't want to.

Yeah.

I don't want to presume that that's the, the goal Allah has for us.

Real talk.

I don't know what the goal Allah has for us is.

I don't.

I'm not.

Allah is the best of knowers.

That's right.

That would be dope if it was.

You know, if, if, if me being able to help God to master a planet.

I would love that.

Well, we are taught that we are going to be in training to master this one.

Right.

I mean.

Yeah.

So.

Right.

We could, we could say that that's what, you know, that's what we're taught and that's what we follow.

So let's, let's.

Let's handle planet Earth first and then we'll see what happens after that.

Yeah.

Real talk.

I also want to be clear about this other thing that I've thought about too, like you were talking about and I talked about how we, we, like we.

We imagine our limited imagination imagine is the spirit world to be somewhere else.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I actually conceive it as everywhere.

Really.

I, I think that's what it is.

And when I say we separated from.

Yeah.

Source.

Not really.

Yeah.

Like, I say that so that we can conceive of it as.

Yeah, but there is no separation, no facts.

If I could, if I could see my spirit, I would know that it reaches out into eternity.

Yes, sir.

Because all of us are God.

That's right.

Just a portion of.

That's right.

You know, the what, what animates me is that energy, that spirit.

That's right.

And it allows me to conceive of and to do all these things.

What Separates me is the physical.

Boom.

That's the only thing that keeps me as me.

That's right.

You know, and then the physical has a brain.

That's right.

And the brain is the computer that controls the mind.

It's a switchboard.

That's all it is.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm gonna.

I'm not gonna say you're wrong, but I'm just like the brain, because I. I view the brain is just.

It's literally just the.

The switchboard for the body.

The mind is what?

I'm not saying the mind is limited to the brain.

Okay, got you, Got you.

No, it's just the, like, if we were to look at the brain as your computer, the.

The brain itself is where you push the buttons to make the thing go.

Exactly.

But the.

The stomach has a brain, too.

That's right.

And the stomach's part of the mind.

Yeah, the mind is all of the thoughts that I have.

So it's not, you know, I don't know.

The stomach is probably the screen.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

And I think the buying.

We could just.

We could put it out there is like the collection of experiences that we have, like, witnessed.

Right.

And then.

Yeah, our.

Our ability to use our experience.

Use those experience to make decisions in present time.

Exactly.

So what I wanted to say is I've been studying, and one thing I have learned is your mind is literally as big as you want it to be.

And it is as big for.

It is.

It is as big as the amount of time and space you want to be responsible for.

So if you want to be responsible for you, it's just.

Okay, it's just your body.

Cool.

If you want to be responsible for your family, you better make damn sure your thing, your mind at least habits, your family.

If you want to be the leader of a nation, you better make.

At least you're responsible for the nation.

If you want to be a God, guess how big your mind has to be.

How much responsibility do you have to.

Have to.

You know what I'm saying?

Here's the flip side of that perspective.

Your body is a universe unto itself.

Yes, sir.

So you already are technically a God.

That's right.

The type of God that you want to be is your choice.

That's right.

So you could be the God of just this, or you can be the God of more things.

That's right.

If you qualify yourself.

If you qualify and you're willing to.

Take responsibility for it, because the God that I was, I did some research, and the Bible was talking about how, like, there are like 40 different gods mentioned in the Bible and they're not saying gods as in like creator of the heavens and the earth.

Yeah.

The word itself just means like basically in charge of something like.

That's right.

You know, like a lord or a king or, you know, in like given reign over.

Yeah.

So like, like you said, if you want to be the God of your family, somebody who can rule that family with intention, not just like live every day and go through the motions.

Yeah.

You have to be intentional with every decision that you make.

That's right.

You know, you have to be like hands on with all of the children.

Yeah.

And paying attention to your wife.

That's right.

And keeping up your, your own mental health, your own physical health, your own.

That's right.

Like, that's the God part.

That's right.

You know, and dynamics, bro.

That's right.

When you're saying that, it's just like, oh, I get it.

Yeah.

You.

There's levels and a God has to be responsible for all of them.

Yeah.

And there's no skipping.

You got to get, you got to get this.

You got to get the bot.

One meal a day.

And, and literally our entire society is designed to halt that.

Absolutely.

You know, having a job where you have to go away from your family.

Yeah.

People didn't used to do that.

That's right.

People had a farm, they lived on the farm.

They did their specialty.

They did what they do in that area where they lived.

They had their children learning how to do what they were doing.

They were with them.

They had their wives.

Usually the family ran the business together.

Yeah.

That was normal.

That's right.

This society is like, no, put your kids in daycare, have some strangers raise them.

People that you don't know, their habits, religion, their social structure, their background.

You don't know nothing about these people, nothing about them.

Have them raise your children all day.

Long, longer than you're, they're, they're with your children longer than you are with your children.

And then you wonder why I don't recognize this kid.

This kid is doing things that don't make sense to me.

My family doesn't do.

Hey, bro, it sounds like you're like you're, you're hitting, you're hitting me because it's like when, when my children went to school, they changed.

Yeah.

They become less like me and more like, okay, this world, and I see this world in this condition and now.

I see logical effect that it has on the children is bad because now they don't trust you.

You Set me out over here.

Yeah.

It's like you dropped me off here to fend for myself.

Yeah.

And not just fight against the teachers who want to change me, but all of the classmates who want to construct who I am based on their beliefs.

Man, you're hitting.

Because my son's getting in trouble with school, and, like, Allah's being like, bro, you're.

This is you.

And.

And he's.

And I want to get.

I want to get mad at my son, obviously.

But here's the thing that they don't talk about.

The children who don't do well in conforming environments.

Yeah.

Are the smart ones.

I know.

It's the intelligent ones who see the.

Is like, no, I'm not with it.

Yeah.

Wow.

And so, like, our society is like, oh, we're gonna break them.

We're gonna label that.

We're gonna.

We're gonna.

That's brilliant.

Exactly.

We're gonna.

He's part of medication.

Yep.

He's.

He's got a problem.

Yep.

He's, you know, a problem child.

He's got a disorder.

We're going to label him, and we're gonna profit from his disorder that we label with.

Absolutely, bro.

And then they feed him all kind of sugar and.

And hype him up.

God.

And then send him on a spiral.

And he's just over there.

Like, what?

I'm thinking.

I can't stop thinking.

You want me to stop?

I can't stop wiggling.

I'm not sure if you see, like, black boys that are young, like, big bro.

It's just.

You've seen it, right?

It's just like, oh, man, what are they.

But we were bred for that.

Yeah, man.

We were bred for high energy, strength.

Jesus Christ.

For hundreds of years.

Yeah, man.

This is like, let me get the strongest.

Yeah.

They brought us for that.

They bred us for that.

And then they want to conform us.

And put us in a box at school.

Yeah.

And they give us sugar and.

Oh, God.

Diabolical.

That is savage, bro.

Diabolical.

And then.

And.

And then.

And then they vaccines.

Oh, my God.

I see the whole.

They filter us, and it's like the majority of us don't make it into the hole.

Yeah.

Like every once in a while, one drops out.

It's like, oh, we got a good.

Right here.

This one will do everything we say.

Let's give him money and power.

Boom.

Facts, real talk.

And then they put him on tv.

That's one of your leaders.

Be like him.

He's got the plan.

He's successful.

That's diabolical, bro.

And then.

Diabolical.

And then once they get old enough to wake up and be like, man, what have I been doing my life?

All right, kill him.

Yep.

Get rid of him.

Throw a charge at him.

Call him a pedophile.

Something.

Do something.

Yeah.

Get him out the way.

Get.

Give him something that.

Where the sheep will look at somebody else.

And who makes it to the ripe old age in the belly of the beast without any sense.

How do you do that?

You don't.

Yeah.

Oh, man.

That's the system, bro.

And the whole time, they're in there by themselves, mind you, because nobody else made it with them.

None of their family and friends.

They're by themselves, and they're the only ones at the top.

Yeah.

Everybody around him is like, come to this little bullshit.

Come through this.

Yeah.

Come to this little pool.

And they're probably telling most of them, no.

Yeah.

And then one of them is just like, all right, let's go see what that's about.

Yeah.

You know, I was listening to Dave Chappelle, and he was talking about.

I'm not gonna say he was talking, but he was.

He was having this conversation.

He was like, am I finally getting invited to the party?

And it was like that feeling.

Yeah.

That feeling of like, I just want to see what it's about.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But once you're there, it's done.

Yeah.

You're in the.

You know, and.

And the fact that you have the drive to want to.

It just.

It's a testament to, like, how strong.

Strong the pull of that world is.

It's.

It's the circle.

It's the.

It's the.

That route.

It pulls you in.

It has its own motion as well, and that's.

That fame, you know, that world, you know, that's a.

That's a pull.

Yeah.

What was his point with that?

What was he communicating on that?

To say that.

What that this.

He.

He was.

He was making.

He was having a conversation about Nipsey Hussle.

Okay.

And he was just talking about how.

How great he was, how he got introduced to Nipsey Hussle by TI and he was talking about how he asked TI Who Nipsey Hussle was.

He's like, that's the most.

He's like, that's the next generation of rappers.

He's gonna be the best.

Yeah.

And so he was just like, who this kid?

And he had a conversation when they had a great night.

Great conversation.

Nice.

Yeah.

Cool.

Yeah.

It was a good.

It was a good little Comedy routine.

I'm not gonna tell the joke part because it's nasty.

No, I just.

I don't have a talent for that.

Oh, gotcha.

You don't want to mess up his jokes.

No.

Not gonna even attempt.

That's respectful.

It was just.

It was interesting.

Yeah.

Oh, man.

But I mean, like, the layers of the trap.

Yeah, bro.

And how.

How, how it starts from a very young age to the point where you're an adult and it's so thick and ingrained by the time you've gotten just to, like, high school and then college.

They give you a sense of freedom and.

Yes.

Wild the fuck out.

That's it.

No.

And that's absolutely part of the plan.

That's the trap.

Can we get them caught up in something that you cannot escape from?

Yeah.

Something that just takes him.

Yep.

And keep.

Brings him.

Brings him into the world.

That's what it is.

That's the start of.

Okay, now you're in it.

Okay.

Join your fraternity, man, at 17, 18.

Join your Greek or grown your Greek at the beginning.

Join their.

Join your initiation.

Yeah.

Initiating into the Greek Greco Roman society.

That's crazy.

When you're at the most pivotal age in your life, man.

You just had.

Setting the tone for adulthood.

You just left puberty.

You're just becoming a. Oh, my God.

Not even left.

You're still kind of in puberty.

No real talk.

17.

17, 18.

Yeah.

Everybody didn't have a mustache when I went.

I had a mustache, but everybody.

Yeah.

No, you're in puberty.

You're in puberty and you're away from home.

And they.

Oh, man.

They got you.

Yeah.

They got you.

Yeah.

Oh, man.

And that at a time where discipline is the most difficult it's going to be for your entire life, they like, put you in a position where it's just like, unlimited women, unlimited booze.

Oh, my God.

Drugs, Unlimited.

Whatever the hell you can do.

They form the cycle for the rest.

Of your life in debauchery.

And I think those of us that have gone, you and I both, your brother, like, we all.

We're all, like, still, like, dealing with that.

You know, the ramifications of, like, we got.

We've got our own level of brainwashing of Roman society.

We.

Because we.

We're still in Rome.

Yeah.

And I'm.

I'm likening this conversation right now to our conversation earlier about us being the bridge generation.

And when you said the word thick and nasty about what it is, it's like we're literally the first front lines of this civilization just muck in my muck.

I've been having dreams about, like, just clawing away cobwebs and goop from my eyes.

That's what it is.

No, really.

That's what it feels.

Thick and nasty, bro.

Like, okay, literally, like coming out of the pod in the matrix, like, that's what it feels like.

Just the thickness of it.

You and I both.

I think we're at this time, but Moses showed us the way.

He didn't push us through it.

We.

We have to go through it.

No, you got to be conscious.

We've got to be conscious, and we're going through it.

So that way, the generation behind us that.

My son, your brother's children, the general, all the children behind us are just.

Oh, they could just walk behind us, you feel.

No, they gotta crawl their way out too.

Yeah, that's true.

I mean, if we're.

If.

If our intention is to give birth to gods.

Yeah.

There's.

None of them is gonna get through it easily.

Everybody has their own unique devils, their own sins.

Like, they got.

They thing that they got to deal with.

That's right.

We dealing with ours.

That's right.

They gonna deal with theirs.

That's right.

But we can give.

We can give them game.

Yeah, Give them game and then clear out some of the.

Make it easier.

Yeah.

For them than it was for us.

That's our job.

You give them the best head start that you possibly can.

That's right.

Yeah.

That's called generational wealth.

That is.

Yep.

Facts.

And we were given that.

You know, we were given the.

The blueprint for generational wealth by joining the Nation of Islam and having the teach.

That's.

That's a cheat sheet.

It's like, this is what you have to do to build a civilization for you, not be a part of the Roman civilization, which is for them.

No disrespect.

That's what it is.

They built their own civilization to suit them.

Yeah.

You can't get mad at them for doing what it is, what it takes to maintain and operate their own civilization.

I mean, if you could have people rubbing your feet and massaging your neck all day, you would.

Absolutely.

And so that's what.

That's what we do.

Building your palaces, doing everything, tending your fields.

Of course you would.

And all you got to give them is paper money.

I made this up.

They want it.

Cool.

They'll do everything for it.

And then give it right back to me.

That's right.

And then keep.

So, yeah, you would keep playing.

You would keep facilitating that game.

I'm not mad at that.

No, no.

I just don't want to play.

I'm not.

I'm just gonna clear the way.

Clear the way so we can keep going forward and have a civilization that works for all.

That's the kingdom of heaven.

That's what we're heading towards.

They weren't built to build the kingdom of Heaven.

They were built to.

To have the experience of what it is like to live as that and build a civilization on that.

Not even.

I'm not even hating.

That's.

That is their purpose, chaos.

And they're showing us what it looks like.

He.

There are.

They are the living example of what that chaos in us, what it looks like outside of us.

Yeah.

So we could then assess it, diagnose it, and learn from it and then build something with that fully out there and build something that is better than that works for all beings.

The part that works me up is, like, I'd be having conversations online, and people automatically assume that when I say they, I mean white people.

Yeah.

And it's like, why did you put yourself in that boat?

It's like, I'm talking about the people who are corrupt, who have done evil in the world, who have colonized, who have.

And you're saying, a.

You're not responsible for what your great great grandparents did.

But also, we can't talk about the effect that it's having on us today.

Like, why do you feel so guilty about it if you're not, you know, part of it.

That's right.

You know, and that, to me, that part is like, they know.

They know intrinsically, and they don't want to take responsibility.

They don't even want to talk about.

No, not.

No.

Not even talk about it, let alone take responsibility.

To be honest, my mindset is I take responsibility for that because I know why it happened and who.

I get it.

Like, so I can't.

Who's more responsible, the potter or the clay, bro?

I have to be able to be.

Well, man, that's a deeper level.

I absolutely take responsibility for it.

I understand that.

We created Devil.

Exactly.

And we gave them form facts, and.

We gave them rules and made them in our likeness.

And then.

And then we traumatized the hell out of them.

We sent them into the caves.

We.

Was that sweet.

It was not.

It was not a pleasant experience, bro.

We were not nice.

Not at all.

It was just like, no, y' all gotta go.

Gotta get up out of here.

We whipped it.

And because of what we did to them, they reverted back to Eating seen raw foods.

And they reverted back to like sleeping with animals.

All kind of crazy nasty, bro.

Yeah.

They went savage.

They went savage.

And then in that whole time in their back of the mind, they get back.

I don't even.

I don't even think.

I don't even think it was get back.

While they were in that condition, they lost humanity.

Go talk.

I think.

I think the get back came when they.

When they started regaining humanity and realizing.

And we had black supremacy.

He was like, those niggas is nasty.

Yeah.

And we treated them a certain kind of way once they came back into society.

That's right.

I think that's what created the get back actually.

Or you can make an argument that Yakub put the get back in their mind.

Not Yakub, Moses.

When he went to go civilize them from the Cajun hillside of Europe, it's like, okay, well, I'm gonna teach you a way to master them and I'm gonna give you technology or whatever we call it, you know?

Yeah.

So no, I didn't Yakub give him technology.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Facts.

No, it was.

Okay.

So the get back was from the jump.

It's like, okay, well, I'm gonna have a plan for you to go do what you got to do.

I created you to rule.

So the get back is get back was in their DNA.