The Ellens* sit down with Oklahoma City Representative Mickey Dollens for one of their most unexpected conversations yet. Before politics, Mickey played college football at SMU, honored his late brother by trying out for the NFL, and competed on the U.S. Olympic bobsled team. The oil bust eventually pushed him into teaching — and a layoff pushed him into running for office.

Now in his 11th year at the Capitol, Mickey talks ballot initiative reform, education funding, economic diversification, and why he's teaching his kids to sort fact from fiction from faith. Oh, and there's a story about crashing a bobsled at 90 mph that you won't want to miss.