Timothy Schultz:

I am so excited to be joined here today with Dr. Joe Gallenberger, returning to the program for the second time. He is a clinical psychologist as well as the author of Inner Vegas and Liquid Luck, and he's into manifestation and consciousness. We're going to dive right into this. Joe, how are you doing today?

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

I'm doing great. It's good to see you again, Tim.

Timothy Schultz:

Thank you so much for taking the time. For people that aren't yet familiar with you, you take groups of people to Las Vegas to try to intentionally influence luck, to use energy and consciousness to intentionally try and win prizes, and you have some incredible stories. What do you do and what has happened?

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

It was under the workshop name Inner Vegas Adventure. I did 99 workshops out in Las Vegas. We're using what we call psychokinesis, the ability to affect matter with your mind and your energy to influence dice or slot machines as a feedback device to show that, in fact, we can influence and create our own realities in manifestation. The nice thing about casino is that we knew everything is objective. We know the statistics of what should happen on, for example, dice. When we go out, we can see if we're in the right condition mentally, emotionally, spiritually, if you will. We get feedback within seconds by winning that we're in the right zone, if you will. If we go into greed, fear, ego, usually the money is withdrawn and we know we're off path. It becomes a good training device.

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

A seven will come up once in every six rolls statistically on dice. We play in a way where we're aiming for doubles and we don't want sevens, for example. The last workshop in Vegas, we had a woman roll 48 numbers in a row with no seven. Statistically, that gets very unusual. On slot machines, I might aim for a royal flush and hearts on a video poker machine. I might know that's 160,000 to one by chance, and I've hit it several times in the first poll. When you do that, you're seeing that you're actually affecting the physical world quite strongly. It's the same energy we use for energy healing and for manifesting. Since COVID, those workshops are in suspension and then I reintroduced them as Inner Vegas Virtual. We have people from around the world. We've had five of them so far, starting off again this year. We've had Sri Lanka, Vietnam, Singapore, New Zealand, Australia, Saudi Arabia, all through Europe, Canada, US, people that come in. About half of them will go to casinos in their environments, but the other half will practice these things with relationships or businesses, family, working with lotteries, working with investing, those kind of things. The way the workshop is structured, we do Friday, Saturday, Sunday, learning, raising energy, and learning how to focus this for it to work. Then we have a whole week off where people practice it in their environment, the casino or home. Then the following Sunday, we get together and fine-tune things. That's working real well. We limit it to only 20 people on Zoom, so there's quite a bit of individual attention that's been able to be given. It's a lot of fun. I also work in university laboratories and at Monroe Institute. We've been doing a program called MC Squared for over 20 years where they've been collecting data through the University of Virginia. There, we're seeing statistical results also suggesting that psychokinesis is real, and that you can learn how to do it. We're studying the brain wave patterns and things that might occur when somebody's in the type of meditative states that makes this stuff work best. That's a long answer to your question, but it starts us off I guess.

Timothy Schultz:

Yes, and I want to dive deeper into all of this. Some people watching or listening to this are not familiar with what you mean when you say things like "We had the feedback." Before we even get into how this happens, what are people actually winning using their energy and their consciousness?

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

Say the person is a lotto ticket buyer of the scratch tickets in their hometown. What most people do is maybe one out of three times when they go to the store, they win. Often what they might win is if it's a $5 ticket, they win five or 10 bucks back. I have a meditation called Liquid Luck that a lot of people start my system with. What I'll do is give reports that they've won three $100 scratch tickets three weeks in a row or something like that. That's fairly unusual in buying those little lottery tickets. If they are playing lotto, they may win those small amounts. My daughter wanted to get me something nice for Christmas. Her finances are not great at this point as a young person, so she went and bought me one $5 scratch ticket. When I scratched it at Christmas, it was a $500 win. The odds of that are kind of low, so we have that. When we go to casino on a game of dice, depending on how much money they were betting, it might be reasonable to see them be able to make a $100 investment into $1,000 in a session, not every time but tending that direction. You can add as many zeros as you want to that, potentially. Same for slot machines. If they're playing dollar machines or 25 cent machines, they tend to be winning things beyond what we usually see. In one of my Vegas virtuals, for example, there were two people from South Africa. They came to Vegas after the workshop. In the first 20 minutes going into the casino, they put $20 into a slot machine. I think it was a 25 cent machine, and they won $5,000. It's not making people into mega millionaires type of thing. We've had some interesting talks about big lottery wins. I have met some people who've won lottery using the kinds of methods I talk about. By and large, the big lottery win is a whole different level of shifting your life, if you will. Where I live in North Carolina, for example, if I won $100 million tonight, I have to show my face and report my name and be on TV. With that, probably first I'd have to find security guards or put all my grandkids into safer situations and change my public appearance and where I live. To win a lottery like that, being it's so life-changing, some of these skills are useful and other things are needed beyond that to handle the unconscious, "If I really won, what would happen? How would I know who is my real friend? How much taxes would I have to pay? I've heard stories that it ruins people's lives. How would I address that?" There's a complex thing of emotion and belief that one needs to swim through. I know you've been successful when you were young. I've met people who won three million playing poker out in Vegas, and then they came and won a Florida lottery ticket for, I think it was six million. Over the last 15, 20 years, they've been making that into more than 10 times that by investing in real estate. I've seen people where the lottery win is very good for them, if you will. Another one, I think I told you last time, was a guy fell in love with somebody from Japan. He was in Ohio. She had to go home and he said, "Give me your address. I'm going to win the lottery next weekend and come get you." He won 21 million that weekend in the Ohio lottery, knocked on her door in Japan and said, "Hey, we can be together." They took it, I think, as the 20-year payout. They've just had a beautiful life for the last 20 years or so, enjoying that money. We start smaller. Mainly I got into this to show people that yes, your energy has great effect on the physical world, for healing of your own body, for helping heal others psychologically or physically. I'm responding a lot to the fact that in manifestation work, things like the movie The Secret talk about visualization, but to me, that's mental. The mind is really like the steering wheel of a car. It just sets direction where you want to go. I'd like to get a new car. I'd like to get a new job, whatever it is, but the car goes nowhere without gas. What tends to be missing in most programs is the very high, fine energy that, if you use it, makes this stuff work on a consistent basis. We use the energy of unconditional love. We think it's the most positive psychologically and spiritually. Often, there's still a playful attitude. If we take something like lottery, we say, "Hey, how about starting with Pick 3 or Pick 5, something simpler." Those only have 10 digits. It could be the ticket says 000, if it's a Pick 3, or 110. We say, "On your kitchen table, why don't you put a candle upright, kind of columnar candle anytime the number is one, that came up this week, and a donut for zero, like that. If this week 110 showed up on your kitchen table, it would be a candle, a candle, and a donut. Now you do that a few weeks and then you say, "What am I going to see on my kitchen table next week when the number is pulled?" We had one group that I'm aware of pay for sports uniforms for every school in their county from little grade schoolers all the way through high school, brand new sports uniforms and equipment, just winning off of that type of Pick 3 on a consistent basis. That's a way to start versus immediately try to grab 60 numbers out of the ether by intuition.

Timothy Schultz:

When you say put these candles on there and keep track of these numbers, I think I know what you mean because we've spoken before, but for people that are new, how does this work if someone wants to try this?

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

Using this as an example, psychically it seems intuitively that numbers can be challenging. What we're doing is changing the number one, say, into something that is more easily picked up intuitively. If a person likes candles and they have a lot of association emotionally to a candle, like birthday candles, lighting candles in the darkness, maybe they even have pine-scented candles they love the smell of, then if they were following Pick 3 results for a couple weeks, when they look up, if it was 111, they would put a candle. For them, they may smell pine when they think of what's the first target, if they like pine candles or vanilla or whatever it is. Another person might be visual and they see the bright light of a candle or the shape of it. Somebody else may have a feeling for it in some way. We're trying to pick something that the unconscious mind, if you want, or your superconscious mind could send you and you could receive that doesn't get garbled.

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

My Aunt Margaret used to make donuts for a table of 18 people while we played cards together, and I was three years old sitting on her lap. The smell of the donuts would be wandering through the whole place and I like the taste. For me, donut has a load, we call it, and that's why we're picking those things. Some are kind of weird. If I'm at a dice table and I want to roll 5, 5 equals 10, to me, that looks like a star system. In my area in the mountains in North Carolina, most people own Subarus because they're good on the roads that aren't plowed and in the mountains. The term Subaru is the Japanese word for Pleiades, which is a constellation of stars. When you see that logo for Subaru and those little stars, that's the constellation Pleiades in Japanese. For me, I might be at a dice table and I think to myself, Subaru, thinking of all the times my Subaru's been really a nice car for me. The dealers look at me and scratch their heads, what is he doing, but I get my 5, 5 equals 10. I'm finding a way to communicate with my own mind, with my own unconscious, maybe with my own angels. I don't know who. Is that making some sense?

Timothy Schultz:

Yes. That is very interesting. You can receive information in different ways. If you're enjoying this conversation and would like to explore these topics further, I put together a free guide called Seven Signs the Universe is Guiding You. It's completely free and you can download it using the link below, but let's continue.

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

I want to mention two things. With lotteries particularly, receiving information or intuition, to me, is a very elegant way of getting to where you want to go, which is to win the lottery or win a scratch ticket, what have you. Psychokinesis is affecting matter. In a lottery, say a $100 million lottery, one person may need a new kidney and somebody else wants to take care of their autistic child. Somebody else started a shelter for animals. There's everybody thinking all kinds of different numbers and that's not a coherent field. When you're wanting to create that 5, 5 equals 10 effect, that's psychokinesis. The challenge is to be very clear and coherent in your goal and then be able to let go. You have a strong energy, much like the wide open hope as a kid when you want a fire truck or a doll for your birthday, and then you let go. You don't over worry about it. It's an interesting skill, almost like dancing. You might have an intention to dance, but then if you begin to think, "Am I doing it right, are my feet in the right position, am I doing it all this way," you'll just get in your own way. Somehow you have to learn a little bit. It's a one, two, three step for the walls and then let go, and let your body take over with the joy of the music and the rhythm to get somewhere. Manifestation work, to me, is challenging because a lot of times, somebody wants something that's important. They've been out of work for six months and they need a job to feed their family, or they have a health issue that's causing them more and more difficulty. How do you let go when it's important is one of the things I teach a lot of. The main way is you go to your heart. For example, if you are feeling a lack of money, or a lack some way that way, you might think all the ways you're already abundant. As you think of the abundance of the beauty of nature and waterfalls and the books you've read and the friends in your life and the pets in your life, whatever it is, then you see this big sundae of abundance and you feel grateful. That moves you into your heart. Whatever you want right now is just the cherry on top of the sundae rather than coming at it from lack or tension or ego. In my Liquid Luck meditation where many people start, we imagine you being like a wizard or a magician. You're in your laboratory and you see a beautiful container filled with swirling golden liquid, and into there you put happiness, gratitude, abundance, compassion which gets you out of ego, feeling of praise for everything as it is, and then feelings of good fortune. Whenever you want to have a beautiful lucky day, you take a drink of this imaginary elixir that you've created in your lab as a magician, if you will. That's when many people have won these tickets, say, in the lotto when they go in to buy their scratch tickets or what have you, is they have practiced in meditation the feeling set of feeling abundant and grateful and happy, etc. Now I'm going to town and I'd like a parking spot and I'd like a winning lotto ticket. Then as I look over the scratch tickets, one glows. I buy that one and it turns to be a payer. It's an interesting way to live, and as people do it, it tends to go deeper and deeper. The more you do this and it works, the more you trust it, which helps it work even more, which helps you be happier being in the physical, which helps you be in the present moment, which gives you even greater power for manifesting. It's a very positive cycle, but what tends to be missing in most people's cycles is that feedback is too delayed and too unclear what I do. Then I might have to wait four weeks thinking negative before I got a cold, and I won't even connect my negativity to my immune system failing to keep the germs out. Or if I were looking for a soulmate, I might visualize that once or twice. Though it takes maybe a year to develop, I would get discouraged. A lot of people start even wanting what they put out as really what they don't want. They might say, "I'm really lonely. I'd like somebody in my life." That's pretty vague. You might want to specify that, or else what comes in may not be very elegant.

Timothy Schultz:

Let me pause you there. There's so many questions. You hit on something that I think a lot of people resonate with in that if you haven't achieved your goal or you're trying to manifest money or anything in life, a better relationship or a win in Las Vegas or anything, and this hasn't happened and you've tried and tried and tried and it just feels like it's not there and you get caught up in the timing of it because it hasn't happened, then how do you speed that up or deal with that the best way possible so that that's not something that's holding you back?

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

What I've designed, I feel, are products that first allow you to just transcend all the garbage that may be there in thinking or emotion or doubts or fears, just for a half hour, enough to break through that to say get a lottery ticket win on a scratch ticket. That's more than you usually do, just to say, "Hey, maybe this works." Then there's a home study course where we go into depth with coaching sessions with me as part of the course, for example, because most people have issues about power, risk, deservingness that can be in the way, and we are quick to make conclusion. In Vegas, for example for me, when I was a 20-year-old boy and I'm now 76, so it's been a while, about 21 you could go in a casino. I went there and I wanted the royal flush. That's the big epitome hand in poker. It's Ace, King, Queen, Jack, 10 of the same suit, and didn't hit one. After two times, probably the person begins to think, which I did, this isn't going to happen for me, or this can't work, or I'm not worthy, or whatever our shtick is, of thought. That went on for 20 years for me. Each year, it made it stronger that I'm not going to get a royal flush in Vegas. Then one time, serendipitously, a fellow had come along and used my home study course which is called Sync Creation. He was an entrepreneur and he had been betrayed by several people in businesses and he was discouraged. He was starting over. He liked my course, and it helped him do that. He invited me out to Salt Lake. He had a brand new Porsche, and he said, "Joe, once in your life, you have to go across the Bonneville Salt Flats at sunset and see the beautiful sunset. Here's my new vroom vroom car. Let's go." I think it was even a convertible. We went across at a high rate of speed, beautiful elevation of my energy because of the beautiful nature. When we stopped, we happened to be in Nevada, which I didn't know was that close to Salt Lake. Driving in a Porsche, you can get there pretty quickly. Right across the state line was a casino, and I walked in there. First pull, I got a royal flush. I had developed a thought, I'm never going to get the royal flush in Vegas. Now as soon as I wasn't there and I had an opportunity, it let me jump out of that belief system pattern. Things like that I'd call grace, serendipity, or help, but often people will have things like that happen. How many times would the average person say, "I am now a millionaire, I am now a millionaire," and the next day they are, before they'd say, "This is ridiculous." Maybe a week, 30 days. Some people could last or really stick to it. First of all, they're doing something that's highly mental. They're not feeling abundant. Second of all, they're getting failure experience quickly. The trick for me is to give a feedback system that actually works at the beginning when you need the encouragement. When that happens, then people can make some good progress.

Timothy Schultz:

The feedback system that you create, that's like the candles or ways of something where you think you're going to sense--

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

If your intention was to win Pick 3 this week, or by the end of the month win Pick 3, and you begin to put the candles and the donuts on your table faithfully for a few weeks and you're just watching, then you go and buy a ticket. Say you decided by looking what images will be there. It would be candle, donut candle. That's what it feels like. You go and buy the ticket 101, and it comes out that the winner that week was 110. At least you'd feel close. There's no nines and sevens and fives and all the other possibilities. That would be encouraging enough to say, "Okay, what could I amp up? Maybe my heart energy, my gratitude, my clarity of purpose. What could I do to get closer to exactly matching what it will be?" You begin to train yourself, much like you would in golf or tennis. I'm a pretty good shot, but I could do better type of a training.

Timothy Schultz:

If you're trying to amp up your heart energy or your chakras, or something where you referred earlier to stepping on the gas, if you're trying to do that and feel gratitude or these things, how do you do that?

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

Everybody will be different. I have the blessing right now of four grandchildren within 20 minutes of me, all under 10 years old. They came launching over to my house on Friday night this week, all excited about staying over with Grandpa Joe because I'm a pretty fun grandpa. We spoiled them rotten compared to at home in terms of treats and things. That elevates my excitement and my energy. I also love music, so I have a real fancy stereo system. That's one thing that was a goal for my abundance to be able to do. I also wanted to do it in a way that opens up my social relations and is good for many people. I ended up knowing the inventors of the speakers and giving him my meditations, and that helped his life. Then he gave me the speakers at a much cheaper price, that kind of cycle, and became a friend that I consider a friend for life. You have these interesting dances that you might do. For me, I get bored easily. If you told me I have to do 30 pushups a day, I would not be happy and I would be bored pretty quickly. In terms of the abundance, it might be kicking back with my good stereo and listening to the beauty of music to open my heart one day, next day taking a walk in nature, next day playing with grandkids. Pets are great for it. It can't be superstitious or rote. It needs to be vital and juicy. We even build that into our meditation systems where as you're beginning to relax, which people do at the beginning of most meditation systems, you think of a way you're grateful. You rely both relaxed and grateful. That quiets the monkey mind. That gets you out of ego. It raises your energy and you can be paradoxically quite relaxed and yet energized at the same time. That's what we're aiming for when we're doing our visualization of goals for business or for lottery or whatever it is, healing. They should teach this stuff in grade school and they don't, because kids have an easier time. We have to unlearn a lot.

Timothy Schultz:

I just want to make sure I'm understanding this correctly. If you're in this positive mindset of gratitude and just being excited and thankful and in this really good head space, then that precedes your visualization and your feeling as if you have achieved that what you want to achieve. Is that correct?

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

Yes. I would not even attempt to manifest when you're in a lousy mood or you're tired or you're feeling lack or grief or what have you. Sometimes, things have to be processed because the happiness needs to be genuine. One of my phrases is fear is expensive, love is priceless, choose wisely. I'm always monitoring, am I in fear or am I in love, if you will. If I'm in fear, I'm going to stop. I'm definitely not going to put money on a dice table in Vegas when I'm fearful. Talking out there to dealers over a 20-plus year period, I asked, "What's true out there, all these superstitions?" They said, the only thing we see true is scared money loses. In life, if you're more afraid of rejection than finding your ideal mate, If you're more afraid of being jobless than finding the ideal job for you in the universe, it's hard. To me, it's almost like a balance of scale of justice. If fear is 80% and desire is 20, you're going to get what you don't want. As the fear goes down to 50-50, not much happens. 60-40, things begin to happen with a lot of glitches and effort. The house gets built. Maybe you had to fire the first contractor and you had a big punch list when the second contractor finished, and you almost had to threaten a lawsuit. It finally got done but you're exhausted. At 70-30, things go smooth. 80-20, things begin synchronistic, serendipity. When you get to about 10% fear and 90% desire, including those good feelings we're talking about, then that's where we see miracle. Stuff just comes in, boom. The weird thing is, in your channel's focus, many people who win the big lottery say, "I knew." There's a place where it begins to be more, "I know I'm going to get the royal flush" or whatever it is, and then there's a joy in getting it.

Timothy Schultz:

Yes. It's very interesting how many people that have won major prizes that believe for one reason or another it was going to happen, whether they had a dream about it like I did where they intentionally tried to manifest it, or they follow their intuition and they believe there's more to it than just merely chance. Have you noticed with extremely lucky people that they do generally have this in common? Your book, Liquid Luck is the title. What commonalities do you feel with extremely lucky people?

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

Some are lucky enough to be born ebullient and grateful and happy. That's not me. My family has a history of depression. There's a lot of left brain in my family in terms of business executive kind of thinking, so I had a ways to go on some of that. Then what I see is the general culture tends to think the person is happy and feeling lucky because they've won, and what I see is the opposite. They're happy, feel lucky before they win, in general. It can't be whistling past the graveyard or stiff upper lip kind of stuff. It's got to be genuine. The first cultivation often is holistic. If you're eating crap food every day and your sugar and salt intake is huge, and maybe you're also drinking a six pack a night and whatever it is, you're going to be in a fairly toxic body and it's going to be hard to have that feeling of happiness there. Sometimes, medical problems have to be taken care of. Migraines or arthritis is so painful that it's dragging your energy down. Then you have the environment of your family. I was blessed there. My dad would say, "Son, anything you set your mind to, you can do as long as you have the passion for it and you stay in integrity." Other people say, "You're not going to amount to anything" or "I wish you were never born" or things like that, scale of that. Some people even with rough families have a nice teacher who gives them faith in themselves. You have that and then you have the general culture which right now, as we meet this time, I don't think we could say has vastly improved from three years ago when we had our meeting in terms of war and economy and politics and things. How do you deal with those things? I have a meditation called Ocean Heart. If you're coming in my life, Tim, it's like you came in my heart like a hand in water, fully enveloped, no resistance. If you leave, the water goes back to complete, perhaps losing a drop. With that Ocean Heart image, I can go through my brother's suicide, my parents' death, my brother's death, politics kinds of things that I might not agree with, hearing about other things that are going on, threat of an IRS audit if that came along. I've not had that pleasure yet and I don't intend to. Those kind of things, if you can image your heart as a vast ocean of energy and that you might have a surface storm there, but deep within the ocean it's still and it's filled with quiet and vastness than love, then you have a mental device that can help you surf the vagaries of culture right now and the stresses in life, and having been betrayed or having lost somebody or whatever is there. If you go through life feeling brokenhearted and fearful about what's going to happen next, there's work to do before usually this kind of manifestation will flow. I'm not saying necessarily that's easy. That's why we have some depth things to do that can help people, like the coaching and home study, Sync Creation and workshops where you get group support, but just even reading. Liquid Luck is a small book. Just reading that or doing the meditation, often people will see a shift, if things aren't too bad right now, to something more positive, and that gets them inspired to get going with it. I love your show because you show people some things are possible. That's a big one. I know a guy who wanted a job. I mentioned this last time I was on. I said, "What would you really like?" He said "A job about two months a year in beautiful weather," and we said, "Okay, go into meditation, put that out." He got a call from somebody from high school he knew. They sold him his business. By the end of the year, he had three advertising boats on the eastern shore of the United States. The season's two months long, but for most people, a job two months a year doesn't compute. If they've been in a job 60 hours a week, 50 weeks a year, the most they feel they could do is maybe find a 50 hour a week job or get a 10% increase in salary. It's like a golfer that's a 70s golfer. It's hard to become a 60s golfer when you're 70 because there's a set point. So much of what we work with in meditation is both energy and then working on the beliefs, and getting them to expand to include something like being a lottery winner or whatever it is. Lottery, I personally think is highly challenging. That's one reason I admire you a lot. I will often direct some people to say, "If you'd like a vast increase of money flow, if that's what you're aiming for, look at a way you could contribute to the world that the universe would applaud." I have stories of people who have an idea on Friday and they're millionaires by Monday on the web, because they've done something that took off that the world needed. If you can focus on what would give you joy, what you could contribute, that may be an easier path to a million dollars, let's say, than buying a ticket, but both are possible. Different people are built different ways. For many people, it might be, let me focus not so much on the money, but focus on what kind of life expansion I would like to be able to affect people in a more positive way. Then they turn around and go, "Hey, I now have 100,000 followers on YouTube or whatever. I can monetize this." I see that kind of thing. I wrote you another guy who was a retired military, if you'd let me tell the story. He had a disability check coming in that paid the rent and all that, but not much over that. Somehow, he accumulated a $58,000 I think it was, roughly, IRA that was a Roth IRA, meaning that it's not taxable at the end when you take it out. He got the intuition to go into silver futures, and he ended up with $20 million in six months or less, taking that and leveraging it through this futures market at a time when the silver market went crazy. I don't know how low it was, but I think it was maybe in their 30s or 40s, and it went over to like 120 quite rapidly. These things can be used in different ways in lottery tickets. It should be a way that's consistent with the person's personality, their goals, their supports, that kind of thing.

Timothy Schultz:

What's something someone can do that is watching or listening to this right now, an actual step they can take to manifest their desires, or one of the most powerful or effective things?

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

If you start with free things, things that are free, they could go and look at other videos of me online talking about this stuff, or go to my website synccreation.com. On the top left is a bar that says previous articles. There's manifestation tips, energy healing tips, tips for psychokinesis that they can read at the level of 20 bucks or less. Where I'd recommend starting would be the Liquid Luck meditation as a download. You put on headphones. It's about a half hour long. If you like it, there's a book to go with it. You can get it on Amazon or in a public library or on Kindle or Audible or whatever you want. You can start small. To be aware of some of the things we're talking about today, maybe listen to the program a time or two because I know I talk fast in my passion to get all the thoughts out of my head, things like "He mentioned diet, and I'm pretty stinky on that one. I'm not getting any exercise" or "I'm very depressed" to see whether they can begin to make some shifts there. Some of that can just be simple as, "Instead of watching all that broadcast news, I can cut that down a bit," or "I can ask at work if I could begin to have a little better support to do my job better" or something that goes on that would make you feel a little better, a little more human, a little less in the rat race. Depending on your situation, that could be a lot of things but starting a meditation practice with the technology we have now, which easily changes brainwave patterns into calmness, into creativity quickly. Rather than five years sitting there in discipline to try to empty your mind, it's worth doing that I think. Those would be some ways I'd start. There are so many different people I meet that are "I learn visually" or "I learn by reading" or "I learn by hearing" or "I learn by doing." Pick something that goes in the path of least resistance, of ways you learn easily, and meet this material some way that way. If it's tough for you to read a book and you never get all the way through it, don't start with a book. If 20-minute videos work real well because you have a 20-minute drive back from work to home, break it into that.

Timothy Schultz:

I love that. Thank you very much. For people that are really into manifestation, whether they're trying to manifest money or abundance or whatever it is, their dream life, their goal, you mentioned earlier The Secret. There's many people in our pop culture that talk about visualization. They do affirmations and they feel as if they are this beforehand and they put this out there. But in addition to that, a lot of what you're talking about today seems to be being in a positive state of mind, gratitude, letting go, and trying to get out of the fear and these things. With the conventional techniques that we hear about in our culture, are those still important too? How important or unimportant are those, putting out the intention and feeling it?

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

I think intention is important, but I don't put much stock, and for some people it may be that it's needed, in systems that are pretty rigid, like "30 days you've got to do it this way," or you can never use the word "I will." You have to use "I am," or you have to, have to, whatever it is. If you're using affirmations, for example, to me, most times your mind knows. Say your desk is all messy, or my desk is, and you say, "I no longer want a messy desk." That's a poorly put intention. The literature would say, I now see my desk in perfect order. The problem with that is part of your mind goes, this is not the current environment, and then you're fighting your mind with what is. Are you supposed to move into delusion? No, you're supposed to pretend. People get all hung up in that. I would say have the intention. Without a lot of effort, put it as clearly and as positively and succinctly as you can. I'm big on things like fear is expensive, love is priceless, choose wisely. I use an affirmation called "I have arrived" because I meet so many people that are seekers and there's this energy about seeking. I say, wouldn't you rather be a finder? To put that finder energy in there, I might use an affirmation as short as "I have arrived." That's my shorthand for, I've read every book, met every person, taken every vitamin, whatever it is that I need to, to move into a much fuller expression of my power now, my life flow now. I use things like "A lot of this is letting go." I say, when I surrender, all I'm doing is giving up the illusion of separateness. Rather than surrender feeling like defeat, I'm shifting that mentally to a feeling like when I surrender all I give up is the illusion a separateness means when I surrender it allows me to be much more aware of the oneness, of the flow, of a field, whatever one might do, even the help available from others. It's a natural antidote, that one phrase, to my feeling of having to do everything myself, to be isolated, to be efforting, those kind of things. I think a lot of the affirmation work and stuff is useful as antidotes to whatever your shtick is that gets in the way. For somebody, that could be procrastination because of fear. Somebody else would be kind of lazy because they've gotten into inertia, maybe because their energy isn't very good on a physical basis. Great to see the movie. I think it's useful to have the inspirational stories, like the guy working two months a year. Once you hear the story, you can go, "That's logical. That's possible. How would I like that? Maybe pretty good."

Timothy Schultz:

It sounds like the faith and the feeling of the oneness of being connected to this and letting go, because you have so much faith that you are part of this. Is that right?

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

I'm tripping a little on the word faith, Tim. Some people that I would deal with are pretty science-inclined, and they would look at this more neurophysiologically and/or physics-wise. There is a body of data now that's decades of information, say, on the psychokinesis that it's real, and it's what we call a Six Sigma event, once in a billion by chance. It would never occur even that often by chance. They may look at this in more of a physics model and a faith model. If you use the word faith not so much tinged with religion, which for some people has in the past poor connotation, more powerful you can have a knowing and a trust that you are connected, that tends to be very facilitative. For many people, faith is a good word. They've been raised in a way that they've been called to open up and believe things before they see them and then be able to see them, that you believe there is a God, let's say. That makes it easier to connect with that energy and pray and feel some return energy. I'm not denigrating that, but just knowing it's a little bit of a problematic word for some people.

Timothy Schultz:

With the physical aspect, you mentioned the heart energy and increasing or connecting that. A lot of people talk about the power of that and the importance of that, and some people in the neuroscience world at least will believe that it is very powerful, comparable to our brain. What are your thoughts on that and how do we enhance that?

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

HeartMath organization is probably most known for measuring the field of the heart, which they say is stronger than the field around the brain. The skull is a little bit like a shielding box, much like if you had a piece of electronic equipment made of metal. It shields some of the waves there. There is proof physically that there are more connections from the heart to the head compared from the head to the heart. What I think sometimes is missed there is one of the big magics in that is as you move into certain things, it's less easy to stay in left brain, overlogic, egotistical kind of thought. If I move into working with a chainsaw with my body, it's probably going to calm the monkey mind down because I'm focused on what I'm doing so I don't cut my leg. I get the nice cut through the wood.

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

Another place that really quiets the ego mind is moving to the heart, moving into the emotional self, into the higher emotions like joy and gratitude, unconditional love, those kind of things. One of the effects, to me, if I looked at this on a physical basis would be, it's under the left-right brain model. We're quieting the left brain, allowing the right brain which has more to do with present moment, unity feelings, things that are non-sequential, non-temporal, versus logical sequential language in the left. As the left quiets and the ego quiets and the right brain comes more online, there's more of a whole brain state or an integrated brain functioning. That said, I think the data's very strong that the mind does not exist in the brain. The brain is more like a radio tuning in stations, tuning in consciousness from extra physical places. There are people that would debate with me on that. Part of this, when we say open your heart and tune into the field, it allows the quieting of some of that linear sequential temporal time-space-confined thinking. When that lady was rolling 28 numbers in a row, say with no sevens or whatever it would be, by the time she hit 12 in a row, the mind starts screaming, "This is crazy. This is unusual. This shouldn't be happening. This is against physics." If you go to that brain, it's going to just bog you down. Instead, that might be chattering quietly in the background, but you're thinking about your grandkids or the fishing hole you love the most, or the beauty of your pets or whatever. That heart field will be stronger, if you want to look at it that way. As long as the ego is not a dictator, it can be there. It can be chattering. It just can't be the loudest voice in the room. We want the heart to be the loudest voice in the room, if you will.

Timothy Schultz:

When you are connected to this source energy, is it possible to get messages from this? The reason I'm asking this is because I've had lots of dreams in my life that have come true as things are happening or before they're happening, or intuitive hunches that then this person I was just thinking about all of a sudden pops up in my life. Many people know that I dreamt about winning the lottery very vividly. I had already won and it was so real. I was convinced it was going to happen, and then it did three months later, and I told people and so forth. My question is when things like this happen to people, how much is a message from the source energy versus how much is creation here? What is manifestation versus creation versus fate or listening to this other source? What are your thoughts on this?

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

Tough questions, Tim. The dance between intuition and PK, might be the way I'd put it, the act of creation with our energy versus intuition, both tend to be inextricably involved in both things. Say I wanted to go to the dice table and win whatever. I'm going to have intuition of what time of day, now is the time, which table, where to stand at the table, what to say, how to hold things. Intuition is constantly guiding, and yet I can see a funnel of probability narrowing into what's going to become real. That's intuitive as well. Then I can put my efforts to what's going to become real. When you have the dream, now you can taste the lottery. You have that, and that really helps that honing in. That said, it seems like time does not exist and also does. It's paradoxical. If I were on a ruler here and I'm walking one inch, two inch, three inch, time seems sequential, and inch four is going to be the future. I will see time that way, but I could be above the ruler and see the whole thing, and both are true. What we're seeing in physics would be something we call retrocausation. We can affect datasets that were done by a computer 30 years ago and no humans looked at them. We can decide we want more ones or zeros or whatever, and statistically have that effect. When we do experiments where I'm showing you pictures of Hawaii on a screen, computer's picking it. Nobody knows what's next, and then there's a disturbing picture. Your physiology will react a few seconds before you see the picture. That's where HeartMath comes in and thinks the heart knows. If you go to a bigger event like 9-11, there were people that for weeks ahead were anticipating that, were feeling ill. They had going-away parties, some of the people that died. Other people that morning said, "I'm going to go get a haircut," when they worked in the Pentagon and they've never, ever taken a day off to get a haircut, or whatever it would be. We've had people that are just ready to start at a red light. It turns green and they get an impulse to put on chapstick. There's all kinds of cars behind them. They reach for the chapstick. People start beeping. A tractor trailer comes through and if they had gone, they would have been killed. When there's a big emotional event like winning the lottery, I think they tend to echo back in time. I had a motorcycle accident when I was 21. For a week before that, I was filled with deja vu. I just kept knowing everything was happening. It got actually boring. I know exactly what the next person would say. Emotionally charged events potentially can send us back intuitive messages more easily than things that are kind of neutral. It may have something to do with energy, even called entropy. In remote viewing experiments, if you show people pictures of empty parking lots, that has very little energy. The person may be fairly inaccurate, but if you have them engage with a nuclear target, one remote reviewer, Joe McMonicle, has never been wrong. He's done a thousand studies on things. They haven't all been nuclear targets, but that tends to be high in entropy. People are higher energy than a piece of paper. That's a long answer, but it's a dance between -- if you're connected with source, going back to the way you framed it, you tend to be less egotistical, less involved in narrow boundaries of self. That I think does allow messages to come in more easily, and to be received and understood more easily. Say I was very mental on a given day and I go out and I'm late for a meeting. I get in my car and it's having trouble starting. Then I notice on the way that the gas light goes on, that I should stop for gas, but my mind is still very active. No, I'm late. I've got to get there. I've got to get there. My likelihood of accident is going up by the minute. In retrospect, if that accident happened, I could look back and say, "I got signs and thoughts that I am not in the zone. I am not peaceful. I am not feeling good. I am stressed. I am over intellectual right now and in my head. I didn't listen to them and X, Y, or Z happened," or the opposite. I'm in beautiful flow. When I think back, every time almost that I've won the little scratch tickets that instead of $5 I win back what I put in, I win $100 or $500 or $1,000, I've been in a pretty good mood before I even went in the store. People are different. Auditory, they might hear a voice, "Psst, come here big fella." They may see something glow. They might just know that this is the store to go into or this is the day to buy it. When I pick lottery numbers, for example, I pick numbers that have meaning to me. I use the Monroe Institute where I've worked for 35 years as a trainer. Focus level is their meditation way of describing meditations. Focus 10 is deeply relaxed, yet still awake. That has a feeling to it, so I pick the number 10. 12 is expanded awareness beyond the physical senses. I pick 12. 15 focus is beyond time, and I love going beyond that. I pick that, etc. On a ticket, I will buy those numbers. They're loaded with feeling. I'll pick one that let the computer pick because maybe God wants to pick it for me, putting it with a sense of humor, but the field, or something of my unconscious. I will pick them also intuitively which numbers are standing out today. I'll have three different tickets on the same piece of paper. One, always the same numbers that have a lot of meaning. Two, one that the universe picks, let's say, and one that my unconscious can intuitionally come in and pick. I play with both intuition and PK quite a bit.

Timothy Schultz:

One last follow-up question with this is you mentioned your motorcycle accident, that incident and some other things that aren't all as positive. I had a very vivid dream years ago. This is after I won the lottery. I had this new vehicle. Anyway, I had this dream that I was in this horrible car accident. It was so real and so vivid. I was supposed to go on this road trip the next day and I had this dream. I believed it was a message. It felt like one of those dreams that were very, very real. I went anyway because I thought I would just be extra careful. I went and then I was in this 10-car pileup in the middle of it, and there was nothing I could do. It wasn't my fault, but I was just sandwiched in the middle of this car pileup. I guess my question is when we have these experiences or you have this intuition that you listen to, you still are able to manifest your -- is it just meant to be?

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

It's an interesting question. I think some things are influenceable and some aren't, potentially. Most times if I had an image, I would be careful. My wife, when she walks in the woods here, she'll hear the word snake before she goes out. Let's say she walks 200 days a year. She might hear that twice a year, but on those days she'll be extra vigilant and she'll see the snake on the path. She hasn't been bitten, but she sees the snake. She might not have seen it if she didn't have the word. I've had times where I said, "I'll need to be extra careful driving." There's one intersection as I leave my area, people should be going 40. They go about 65. There's curves on both sides pretty close to where I enter. I usually look four times, but I'll even look an extra one, or you get a feeling and then I'll see somebody come zoom through. My brother went to a psychic once, and they said, "You're going to go on a plane tomorrow, aren't you?" He said, "Yes." The psychic said, "Don't," but it was her business. What he did is change the ticket to a different flight that same day, going to the same place. The original flight, some other people in his business went on that and they said it was the worst flight they ever had in terms of turbulence. I try to listen to those messages whenever possible, and yet you have to keep living.

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

An example here maybe would be the dice table. If somebody feels seven, which is the number you don't want, we'll say that and we'll give each other a hug. We'll think of grandkids, we'll do something. We'll shift the energy. We might even say "off on my bets," meaning the bets are in suspension, so we don't have to worry about losing money now for the moment, and then the seven doesn't come. Other times, there's a feeling with that. We can do all we want, stand on our heads, and that seven is going to come. Your dreams being a vivid way, I would listen to them. Hopefully, you didn't get hurt too badly in the thing and it was more frightening.

Timothy Schultz:

I wasn't hurt. The neck was sore and the airbags went off and the car was totaled, but I was safe. It was more emotional too.

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

It's emotional, yes. Monday morning quarterback, if you look at that, if you had a dream just like that, would you not go?

Timothy Schultz:

Now I would not go. No, absolutely not. It's one of the few times that I felt that I didn't listen. I did, but I thought I'd be extra careful.

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

Good. I'm glad to hear you're finally listening to yourself. As my mother might put it, you should hear yourself.

Timothy Schultz:

For anyone that wants to increase their intuition, what's the most effective and powerful thing that they can do tomorrow?

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

Moving into quieting the mind would be very helpful. Again, if they wanted to try a meditation download on my site, they could do that, the same as if they love nature, they could take a walk in the beauty of nature. They could sit in a room quietly and look at a candle and just look at the light. I would say if the mind then is chattering when they try to do that, to try to get the mind to calm down would be to move into the gratitude or joy or something like that, and that'll tend to open intuition up. Then they can ask a question. I would like if they ask a question and they feel they've received an answer to act on the answer, even if that means to journal the answer only. I think I may have told you this a couple years ago when I was on. First time I heard the word Starbucks, there was a big glow. Todd, my broker said, "I don't even know that company. They're going to make coffee shops. Never invest in that." Now, I would at least journal it so I could track it or buy one share if it felt safe, or 100 or 1,000 shares. If you begin to act on your intuition, usually people find intuition goes up 10 times as much as when they keep getting intuition and they never act on it. They can begin to ask, what's the best time to go to the store today if they want to avoid lines. Which teller in line? Which person could I help the most? Which person in a grocery store, if I smile at, will they smile back at me and the fact that I might help them with their day by doing that. You begin to ask a lot and acting on it. Within a month or two, your intuition muscles will be stronger when you see feedback that it works and that you're acting on it.

Timothy Schultz:

I love that. We are here with Dr. Joe Gallenberger. I really appreciate you being here today, and this is so interesting.

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

I love talking to you, Tim.

Timothy Schultz:

Where can people find your courses and your books and learn more about you?

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

Simple phrase is Liquid Luck. If you Google that, my Liquid Luck meditation will come up in my website. My website itself is called Sync Creation, synccreation.com. My last name, Gallenberger, is pretty unusual. If you Google Gallenberger, I'll come up. You can see me on YouTube and Facebook and all that good stuff, and under Sync Creation particularly for this type of thing. I'd say I've been on Coast to Coast 15 times or whatever. New Thinking Loud is a show I like on YouTube that I've been on quite a bit. Right now, I'm on Gaia TV in two different series, one about the Monroe Institute, there's about 10 episodes, and also one called Awakening Your Intuitive Intelligence. If they look for Gallenberger, they'll find me or a guitar player that is in Wisconsin with my same name. He's a good guy. He's family. It'll be pretty obvious which one you got.

Timothy Schultz:

With a name like that, he has to be a good guy. We will link to your websites in the show notes if you're listening to this, or under the video if you're watching this on YouTube, and also to the first interview with you from two or three years ago, which is also another fascinating conversation for anyone that wants to dive into that. Joe, is there anything else that you want to say today that I didn't ask or maybe I just don't know enough to ask or you just want to say?

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

At this point, I think our culture has become quite fearful. I really want a world for ourselves, for our grandkids, that could be the paradise we could have on this beautiful planet. That phrase I mentioned, fear is expensive, love is priceless, I'd really like people to start each day right now thinking that and then plan their day accordingly so they move more into lovingness. That can have a lot of discernment to it. It doesn't mean you have to be naive or swallow everything or always look the other way on things. There's a lot of stuff that's going on now that we're becoming so polarized about and ascribing negative motivation to that may not be, that it might be different points of view or what have you or misinformation. Tim, since you and I have been together, we had a Hurricane Helene in our area. On my road, both ways you couldn't get out. The road was destroyed. We were in a mountainous area. In our rural mountain conservative south area, it was Trump, Trump, then Harris, Harris kind of signs. Everybody got together. One person had a horse and could get on the horse and go up the mountainside and check on a 90-year-old person that was by themselves. Other people had water to share. Some people had generators for electricity. We all cooperated and got together. Humans want to be good to each other at a level where you can see the other person. I just don't want all the fear that's going on at the level where you don't see the other person, to begin to really sicken our democracy and sicken our relations with people and things. Just be respectful that fear is not the way to go to get where we want to manifest.

Timothy Schultz:

Fear is expensive, love is priceless. That is beautiful. Dr. Joe Gallenberger, thank you so much for joining here again today. It was such a pleasure.

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

It was good to see you.

Timothy Schultz:

You as well. I feel that we could talk for hours and hours. I really appreciate it, your time today and your insights.

Dr. Joe Gallenberger:

I hope it will be helpful and I look forward to our next talk.

Timothy Schultz:

Thank you.