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Lower Your EMF and Radiation Exposure NOW with Veronica Ciandre | S2E074
Episode 743rd September 2024 • A Call For LOVE • Linda Orsini
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In today's world, invisible environmental stressors like wireless radiation and EMFs (Electromagnetic Fields) can have a significant impact on our well-being. But you don't have to feel powerless.

Join us for an insightful conversation with Veronica Ciandre, who shares 10 practical tips you can implement today to lower your exposure to wireless radiation and other EMFs, helping you to increase your vitality and protect your health.

In this episode, you will learn:

  • The impact of electromagnetic radiation on your health
  • Symptoms and management of radiation sensitivity
  • The difference between electromagnetic fields and radiation
  • Effective detoxification techniques
  • How to address 5G and cellphone radiation exposure
  • Practical tips for reducing radiation and EMFs in your daily life

Veronica also reveals a powerful truth: changing your mindset is key to reversing symptoms. She even shares a healing affirmation that works like a mental reset button, empowering you to take control of your health.

Don't miss this essential episode on holistic healing and protecting yourself from harmful environmental stressors.

Linda's Links

Emotional Freedom For Self-Empowerment Course

5 Keys To Elevate Your Life PDF

Who Am I? Meditation

Veronica's Links

Instructions for Sole Water https://sowegrounded.yolasite.com/salt.php

www.iloveisola.com

www.facebook.com/iloveisola

www.instagram.com/iloveisola

www.instagram.com/veronicaciandre 

About Our Guest

Veronica Ciandre is a "Wearable Medicine Maker" and the creator of iSOLA Jewelry, a line of jewelry inspired by the Golden Ratio. She is also a "New Narrative Coach," a role she embraced after being diagnosed with severe Electro Hyper-Sensitivity (EHS) in 2010. By transforming her own personal narratives, Veronica successfully reversed a range of neurological symptoms and elevated her life to a higher level. Now, she is dedicated to guiding others on a similar journey, helping individuals and groups to turn their words into powerful medicine that shifts their emotional state and heals the areas of life they wish to transform.

About Linda:

Have you ever battled overwhelming anxiety, fear, self-limiting beliefs, soul fatigue or stress? It can leave you feeling so lonely and helpless. We’ve all been taught how to be courageous when we face physical threats but when it comes to matters of the heart and soul we are often left to learn, "the hard way."

As a school teacher for over 30+ years, struggling with these very issues, my doctor suggested anti-anxiety medication but that didn't resonate with me so I sought the healing arts. I expanding my teaching skills and became a yoga, meditation, mindfulness, reiki and sound healer to step into my power and own my impact. 

A Call for Love will teach you how to find the courage to hold space for your fears and tears. To learn how to love and respect yourself and others more deeply.  

My mission is to guide you on your journey. I believe we can help transform the world around us by choosing love. If you don’t love yourself, how can you love anyone else? Join a call for love. 

Website - Global Wellness Education

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Linda Orsini:

Welcome everybody. Welcome to a call for love. Today you will learn about 10 things you can do now, right this moment, to reduce or even lower your exposure in your home to radiation, waves and EMFs. And I am with Veronica siandre. She has been actually in my life for quite a while, because I met her at the yoga conference in Toronto, many, many years ago. And what she is is she is a beautiful woman, but she's also a wearable medicine maker. And you're going to say, what is that? Because that sounds really cool. And trust me, it is what she does is she makes gorgeous, healing, beautiful jewelry. And I am going to, if you're on YouTube, you're going to look at what I have here. I place all of Veronica's, and I make malas, but they are not quite as spectacular as yours, and I have my malice and bracelets, and this beautiful how light and black Tibetan Quartz around my neck. And it is healing. They are not only beautiful to look at, to feel, but to even wear. And that's what she is. She is wearable medicine maker. She's also a narrative coach, and both were activated in direct response to a diagnosis she had a severe electro hypersensitivity in 2010 it is quite a story she shares, and by successfully alchemizing her own personal narratives. Veronica was able to reverse a long list of neurological symptoms and jump to a higher level timeline. She's well equipped to guide others on a path, and has taken such great gains in this area, she now inspires individuals and groups to do the same by turning their words into the ideal medicine necessary to shift their emotional state and heal the areas of life they choose. So welcome Veronica, welcome to A Call for Love.

Veronica Ciandre:

Thank you so much for having me here. Linda, lovely to be here.

Linda Orsini:

Yeah, it's a, actually, I and then I went to Tulum with my husband for a visit. And then I met Veronica, and we went to an all night Gong sound bath.

Veronica Ciandre:

Yeah, it was a gong puja, yeah, Gong puja night long. Yes,

Linda Orsini:

amazing. On along the ocean. I mean, what an experience that was. My husband was like, Okay, we're at a resort, and you're leaving me for the night. He's such a good sport, though, and then I just took off to to spend the night in this beautiful Gong puja.

Linda Orsini:

So in any case, yeah, today, what we're going to talk about is this PDF that you had created. You created a masterclass, and it was very, very impactful and powerful. I have some friends who actually experienced this, as well as myself, especially if you're highly sensitive person and really in tune with vibration and the environment. So what we're going to do is we're going to go through the list of 10 things, and then I'd like you to share with us your expertise, expertise and how you can help us, help us make those shifts, those changes, so that we can heal ourselves. Okay, all right, so what's number one? Well, first of all, maybe before that, let's talk about radiation, the difference between radiation and EMFs.

Veronica Ciandre:

Oh, scientific, yeah. So electromagnetic fields is something we've been exposed to for much longer, in all of our lives. Radiation is something I'm not even sure if I can tell you exactly when it came about, but according to the research, we have been affected long before radiation existed, when it was just electrical exposure. We have been experiencing something that I believe they used to call neurasthenia. Neurasthenia was something people were experiencing when they started installing all of the power lines. There was no radiation as yet, and that was, I believe, in the early 1900s and then once they added radiation on top of that, the symptoms sort of expanded, went, sort of just got larger and deeper. What my experience has been is that there's a very huge umbrella of symptoms that fit under any one of these that we've been experiencing for very long time, but the name keeps it's like the names, like moving on a on a board, they keep changing the name, but it's all from the same thing. Radiation is generally more impactful than electromagnetic. Genetic fields. But once you've been diagnosed as sensitive, you're often affected by both, and so the aim is to decrease your exposure to both, but especially radiation. Yeah,

Linda Orsini:

I think it's under the same umbrella. I think if you are sensitive to wine, you're going to be sensitive to both.

Veronica Ciandre:

You are but, but still very different, like I would, you know I would, I would sleep on an electrical wire before I would sleep on anything that's giving out radiation. It's much more powerful it has so, yeah, I wouldn't say they're the same. They're similar, but very there's a lot more people sensitive to radiation than two electromagnetic fields, but once you become sensitive. All of it can sort of all fit into one basket.

Linda Orsini:

Well, thank you for making that clarification, because that's that's a clear statement. So number one is the computer, which is a biggie, and what you've said is, do not use laptop while charging. Do not use while on your lap. Turn off Wi Fi and Bluetooth and computer preferences when not in use, and working offline when possible.

Veronica Ciandre:

So the first and most important thing when it comes to our computers or our laptops is to buy what's necessary so that you can hardwire your computer. That's the most important thing that you could possibly do is hardwire it, which is really just getting the right cable so that you can plug it into the back of your Wi Fi router, you will actually have the option to turn off the Wi Fi, depending on the router and how old it is, so that there's no Wi Fi in your home at all, but you do have a cable leading to your computer so that you're now hardwired. That is the biggest shift you can make. But if you're not going to make that shift, the least you can do is turn off the Wi Fi on your computer. It's usually that little, that little icon in the top corner. You can turn that off if you don't need to be on the internet. It makes a very big difference. Sometimes people think, well, there's Wi Fi all around me. You know, when you press that drop down and you get like, 20 different Wi Fi people in the neighborhood. That could be so but the difference is, all of that Wi Fi is around you. When your computer has its Wi Fi turned on, it's now coming from your computer towards you. Your computer becomes an antenna, whereas when it's off, when the Wi Fi is off. Yes, it's coming from the neighborhoods, but you can control the neighborhood, but you can control what you can control, which is turning your own computer into an antenna that's radiating at your face. So if you can't hardwire, at least turn off the Wi Fi when not in use, and especially when your computer's off. And then last was, yes, using it while it's plugged in, while it's charging, just increases the electromagnetic fields that are coming through your computer, the dirty electricity, and especially if you're sensitive, you will start to notice there are a lot of people who are actually having experiences that are not aware that it could be coming from that whether it's your head, your fingers and hands going numb or tingling, heating up or cooling down. For some people, their face heats up, their ears might heat up, or they might just start to feel dizzy, headache, just a number of things which can move into full body, but that's all I'll say for the computer. Oh,

Linda Orsini:

my goodness.

Veronica Ciandre:

There's got so many more to go,

Linda Orsini:

terrifying. Oh, wow. All right, I oonknow I have a friend who really cannot have, like general Wi Fi. She plugs in, she plugs in all the time, and she says it makes a huge, huge difference. It's crazy. And you know, I have to just say, as an aside, we have a place up north, and they were the whole neighborhood was ecstatic when we got 5g because it meant that, of course, our internet was faster. And if you're working up north, it is very convenient. But I was like, crying. I was like, oh my goodness, here I am in this beautiful nature on the water, and I'm still subjected to all this.

Veronica Ciandre:

It's like this. There are very few places in the world now where you can get away from from it, you know? It's just, it's the way it is now. But it's up to us now to uplevel our own systems, you know, yes,

Linda Orsini:

well, you know what? We do have some control, and we can empower ourselves. And that's really great. I'm good. This is going to be such a great, helpful list. Okay, number two, the cell phone. And so my family, I drive them crazy because I use the speakerphone for many reasons, but you have said, use the speakerphone and avoid holding it against your skin. I agree when it gets hot and I place it by my ear, I just know that is not a great idea. And turn off Bluetooth, GPS and other apps when you're not using them right. And this is I did have an argument with my as. And Gord about this, because he has his alarm set on his phone, and he put it right beside his head while he slept, and after many a battle, we now place it in the bathroom.

Veronica Ciandre:

Okay, okay, and he didn't want to, like, even just put it on airplane mode,

Linda Orsini:

um, I just didn't want it around at all. Yeah, and so. And you know what the funny thing is, is that we actually wake up before the alarm goes off. Mm, very rarely does it, you know, ring in our ear. But now I have this little bird chirping, so it's not so bad, but I don't want to have it in the same room.

Veronica Ciandre:

Yeah, yeah. It's best. It's best. I mean, I mine's in the same room, but it's usually I have to get up to get to it. But I have all my data turned off. I have privacy turned off. I have Wi Fi turned off, and I have it on airplane mode so there's nothing coming through. Generally, at the end of the day, for me, it's everything is off.

Linda Orsini:

So you're just looking for the time, then

Veronica Ciandre:

not even it doesn't need to be that close to me. I mean, I don't. It's not like I have a nine to five and I have to get up at the very specific time. I always also get up before an alarm goes off. But if, if, if it's going to alarm, I still leave it across the room, because, you know, if I wake up and it hasn't gone off, I just don't get up unless I want to, so I keep it across the room, but everything is turned off. Yeah,

Linda Orsini:

that's that's really interesting. What about just an aside? What about a digital clock across the room?

Veronica Ciandre:

A digital clock across the room is better, and an analog clock is even better, like just the really old fashioned ones. The unfortunate thing about them is they often have a loud tick, like tick tock. And I remember when I, you know, that's what I had for years, and the sound of it was just so loud. But a digital one is better. But back to the phones. We didn't say anything about the phones. If you have a cell phone, there a lot of people, especially if it's an iPhone, if you go into their app section, they've got like, 150 to 200 apps. And what I always find when I look at someone's phone with them is half of them, they don't know what they are and they never use them, but every single one of them is looking for a signal all day, just in case you want to play, you know, whatever, Candy Crush, whatever, it's always looking for a single so there's a lot of things in a phone, like my phone next to your phone could look exact. Could be exactly the same phone, but one could be putting out more radiation than the other, simply because of all the things that are turned on. So I never have my GPS turned on unless I'm actually looking for somewhere. I never have Bluetooth turned on unless. And I just never use Bluetooth, but you don't need to turn it on unless you're actually trying to connect with something else in your home or your environment, which I would not recommend, but that's what Bluetooth is for, and most people have it on all day long. It doesn't need to be on all day long unless you're always trying to connect with like a mini speaker, for instance. Like that's just the most the most popular thing, I see people connecting to as many speakers, but sometimes they're connecting to their fridge or their television or the lights or all the smart things in their home, the smart things in their home. And so keeping as many things off as possible is one way to lower your exposure with your phone, all by itself. And then also the same way you can hardwire your computer, you can hardwire your cell phone, show you right here. So this little doodad here, like goes into my phone, and then you see the bottom where the plug that that we're used to going into a router. You plug that one into this side and one to the back of the router, and then you switch your phone over. You can turn off your Wi Fi and your data. And so I can be hauled all day with my phone and there's no radiation coming from it

Linda Orsini:

is that, no, you're holding up an iPhone, but that's for every phone Correct.

Veronica Ciandre:

Yeah, you just have to get the right one of these that has

Linda Orsini:

the attachment attached those people who listening can't see it, yeah, yeah. Okay, well, that's super interesting. I'm going to have to write a list. Okay, number three, internet connection, so turn off or unplug Wi Fi router when working offline in You had said that before. Yeah,

Veronica Ciandre:

that's sort of sort of gone over that with a lot of the newer routers. You can't actually turn the Wi Fi off anymore, right? I literally have become like a like someone from Bell, Canada, or some electrician whenever I move into a space like I will, I'll look at that router, I'll figure out what, what, how I can turn off the Wi Fi and still have connection. And I pretty much always do the newer ones. You can't turn off the Wi Fi. You can hardwire, but you can't turn off the Wi Fi. And there's still a huge benefit, because at least it's not coming from your, you know, your computer face. It could be a long cable, like all of my cables, I'm going to say they're about 50 feet long, and so my rifle Wi Fi router could be in another room, and.

Veronica Ciandre:

What homes are. Radiation is attracted to two things, water and metal. We are a huge percentage of water and then a lot of people's beds have metal coils in them. That's just like a just like a landing pad for radiation. So you on top of a metal bed. It's just a perfect storm. So you want to try and sleep on a bed that has no metal in it, no metal frames, no metal coils, like so foam mattresses or feather mattresses, or wool mattresses, or futons, anything without metal you want to try not to be sitting on metal or sleeping on metal, or having a lot of metal around you in that room, because radiation is attracted to it, and then it reradiates off of the metal. So that's what creates a sleeping sanctuary.

Linda Orsini:

Oh, my goodness, it sounds like a lot, but,

Veronica Ciandre:

but none of it all has to be done at once, but there's always things you can do immediately.

Linda Orsini:

And you know this is helpful, because our bed, one of our beds, it lost its life expectancy. You know, it was the time to replace it, so we replaced it with a foam mattress. And personally, I love it much more.

Linda Orsini:

Yeah, so that's a good thing. It does sit on a metal like the frame of the bed has a metal rod from headboard to footboard, just one metal rod, one on each side. Yet sometimes

Veronica Ciandre:

that's it's not it's not impossible to avoid that. But that's not as bad as literally having, like, a wrought iron bed. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, we used to have those. Yeah, so many people, I love those beds. So it could be much worse. And so, like, it's relative, it's better, like two rods are better than a whole bed that's based in the, you know, the rails and the legs. And it could be no

Linda Orsini:

better. You do better. I'm gonna write that up on, I think that may have come from, yeah, okay, number six, body, detoxify the body by earthing, grounding, love it and oil, pulling, Soul drinking, clean water, good nutrition. Yeah. Let's talk about that one that is just really so powerful,

Veronica Ciandre:

yeah? So this one, what you know, what I've tried to do with all of these categories is really just sort of pack a whole bunch of things. Like, it says 10 things, but really, in those 10 things, there's like, five things, right? And so with this one, with the body, I mean, if someone's already electro sensitive, they're going to have a natural desire to ground, even if they don't know why. And so grounding is really, there's so many ways to do it. You can just do it through visualization, walking on sand, walking on grass, walking on Earth, walking on concrete, a little less so. But even that is better than you know, than not. So doing that as much as possible, wearing shoes that don't have rubber soles, really helps you to connect with the earth. It was very noticeable when I was unwell. The difference between wearing rubber shoes and actually when I wore leather sole shoes, especially if I was driving a car, I could feel the the the magnetic, electric and magnetic waves coming from the car through the soles of my feet if I was wearing leather soled boots. So it was very it was such evidence to me that leather you're connecting with whatever the frequencies are below it, whereas rubber blocks it. So if you want to ground wear rubber shoes, you know, rubber soles or, sorry, if you want to ground leather soles or bare feet, if you want to not be connected to, like, say, your car when you're driving, it's actually better, better to have on rubber soils, right? Because, as someone who drove a lot back then, the effect it would have on me to be driving and be and be exposed, it could almost make you fall asleep, depending like, there's so many different things that could happen, but it was very obvious to me when I would forget and start driving with leather soles on, I could feel the frequencies coming through, so it's good evidence that leather soles help are more grounding for you, and rubber soles prevent that another thing with your body is wearing less metal. So when I started making jewelry, it was so that I could stop wearing all of my silver. I loved my silver jewelry, but I would no longer wear I no longer wear any metal circling my neck or my wrist. I still wear my rings, um, but you won't ever see me in a full metal bracelet or a necklace, because it was very notice of noticeable to me when I was extremely sensitive, especially if I was around a lot of radiation, it just adds to it just amplifies whatever you're around. Because metal is conductive, so if it's going through the metal, then it's just kind of re radiating around your wrists and so avoiding metal in your home and on your body is really. Rate, and then the last one is something about detoxing. So detoxing is, yeah, just finding a way to detox heavy metals. So yes, I spoke about doing Soleil drinking, which you can google Soleil drinking, and then oil pulling, which can also that's actually become really popular since then. I started doing it in 2010 or 11. But now a lot of people know about Soleil drinking and oil pulling. Google, those, they're amazing. I think those two things drinking the best water you can I became, I used to call myself a water whisperer back then. And yeah, so those are all things to

Linda Orsini:

do with the body. Well, Oil pulling is, I know a little bit about that. It's, it could be a little bit much for some people, but let's just take a second to talk about solely drinking, because I actually did that for quite a while. And then, you know, with all these practices, I would have to quit all work to do everything. So I bring something new in, and then the old one goes out, but the old one was and so I'm so glad you're mentioning this again, because I'm going to reinvite it into my life, but just quickly, Soleil drinking.

Veronica Ciandre:

So Soleil drinking is when you drink a liquid that is made using Himalayan salt or a sea salt of your choice, and you make that by dropping the big chunks, usually it's those big ones, into a jar of water, preferably a glass jar, and you allow it to dissolve for at least 24 hours. If after 24 hours, there's still it's all dissolved, you need to put some more, some more chunks in and let it sit for another 24 hours. And what you want is for the salt to dissolve as much as possible, leaving some solid and what that means is the salt and the liquid are now the same chemical compound, but one's in solid form and one's in liquid form. So it no longer melts, so it dissolves that water becomes what they call Soleil. And you take one teaspoon, teaspoon of tablespoon in a glass of fresh water first thing in the morning, and you drink that, and your body absorbs it in a way. It's not like salt water. Some people think salt water is the same. Salt water is really good for you, but it acts like a broom where Soleil, it nourishes all of the cells in your body. It raises your vibration for 24 hours. It replenishes damaged cells, especially in the brain. And when you're exposed to radiation, if you just had a visual for radiation is doing it's like it's it's radiating your cells, like even the fact that it's called a cell phone and cell towers and our bodies are full of cells. We are cell antennas, right? And so when radiation is passing through us, and for those of us who are sensitive, we have a very distinct feeling and experience of it passing through us. It's like it's it's like it's burning up yourselves, it's radiating yourselves, right? Which comes with a very long list of potential physical symptoms. But drinking Soleil actually repairs damaged cells.

Linda Orsini:

I did read that. Do you still have that on your website? I

Veronica Ciandre:

have it. I have it on a different website that actually I never talk about because it's such an old website. It's called, you can write this down. It's no,

Linda Orsini:

I'll put it in the show notes, and then people connect, but it's solely s, O, L, E, correct,

Veronica Ciandre:

yes, yes.

Linda Orsini:

And you know, it's so interesting because I did that. I was doing that for quite a while, and I'll tell you, I put the teaspoon of Soleil liquid into water, and when I drank it, no word of a lie. I felt, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, all in my body. I was like, I was just so surprised pleasantly. And I was like, wow, wow. It was like my body was clearly deficient in it. Yes,

Veronica Ciandre:

yep, it really is. Oh. And then the other thing is that it, it, it has something like between 80 and 90 minerals in the salt. And so it's, it's replenishing your body from the minerals that are literally getting radiated, like getting burnt up by the radiation. It's like, it replenishes it. So it's like drinking crystal water.

Linda Orsini:

I bet you so many people are going to do this. And, yeah, fast, easy, it's a great it's a it's a great thing to add. Alright, number six, I believe, is, oh no, we did six. Number seven, emotional, so Well, this is what a call for love is, right? Practicing self love, letting go, acceptance, Shadow Work. I think we'll pass that through because we're on time. But of course, as a call for love listener, that is always, that's

Veronica Ciandre:

the word, yeah, that's when I when I teach about what I did to reverse the symptoms. There's three portals. And. Of them are just about the emotional part, right, which is really about coming back to love. And I think the two simplest statements I have when I'm teaching about this are forgive everyone and everything and love everyone and everything

Linda Orsini:

so beautiful and forgive. I always say forgive. It's to give forth, yes, Yep, yeah. How can we? How can we be in a state of you can't hold love and anger and resentment in the same space, so let's let love like outshine the other.

Veronica Ciandre:

Yeah, and it's very difficult to heal sustainably when we're holding on to something, because that one little part will start to to mess up what the good work that you've done will be contaminated by the anger or the lack of forgiveness that we hold. Yeah, I

Linda Orsini:

actually have a course emotional freedom that does talk about that. Yes, perfect, perfect, beautiful. All right. Eight is the mind, oh, my goodness, to talk again, another, another topic of a call for love, of course, to toxifying the mind through prayer, mantras, affirmations, meditation, big on that, breath work, you know, raising your frequency, which I also, I'm just going to say there I have a document, five keys to raising your vibration, okay, based on force power versus force. Okay, yeah, it's really a beautiful thing. So I'll put that in the show notes as well. But what do you have to say about the mind? So,

Veronica Ciandre:

so, so that part, that would be the most important thing that I was able to do to reverse my symptoms. If you took away everything on the list and I had only one option of what I could focus on, it would be my mind. What I was able to do is I was able to reverse my symptoms. I did those other things physically, although not knowingly. I wasn't like, Oh, this is what I need to do to heal. So I was just doing whatever, you know, and then after I saw what I did and could put it into a system, but the ability to change my own mind around what was happening to me was the most powerful thing that I did. And it's actually a different download that I offer when I do the master class. I'll tell you the affirmation, though, and they can listen and write it down really quickly, but it's all it's an affirmation I created through guidance in meditation. During it, there's a whole other story, and it says exposure to microwave radiation and other forms of electric and magnetic frequencies confirms my body's natural ability to maintain radiant health, strength and vitality, and reminds me that my body is God's body, and all is well, no matter the environment, the exposure, my genetic makeup or what happened yesterday. Now, believe it or not not, that became the most important affirmation, and literally, when my body went into fight or flight, because I either because I saw a phone or because I felt a phone phone, I would literally just focus until I committed it to memory. I would take it out and read it, and it would bring my body back to center. And so changing your narrative around various areas about what's happening to your body, and this is any kind of healing when we can change. You know, what is that? That he says when you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change like it's that same thing. Now with this, interestingly, when you have something that you can't see or hear, people don't really think it's a threat, right? It's I can't see it, I can't hear it, I can't feel it. It must be nothing, right? And it requires tools that also are outside of time and space. And so whereas the physical things that I mentioned on this list, those are like third dimensional things, the emotional things are fourth dimensional things, the mental things are fifth dimensional things. And the same goes for 3g 4g and 5g and now that we're at 5g and eventually moving higher, you need more fifth dimensional tools that makes sense. Absolutely. The conversation, the

Linda Orsini:

mind is so powerful. It's, it's just like, and it's the only thing we have control over. I mean, it is exactly we can exercise it, I always say through meditation, absolutely. All right, so number nine, yes, support. If you're sensitive, seek advice or support and awareness alternative health professionals, naturopaths, environmental health clinics. Yeah, it's just like there is a lot of support out there. Yes,

Veronica Ciandre:

you know, actually, my experience was not that back then, because so many people just sort of rolled their eyes at the thought. I mean, I still meet women, mostly women, and I've also met men who are dealing with this, and their partners are just kind of like, like, still rolling their eyes because they can't imagine what it is, because they can't see it, hear it, or feel it, it just sounds like they're crazy. So finding support is not simple or easy, but it's important to do just one person who trusts and believes you doesn't make you feel. Like you're crazy, and then moving so that you have some kind of support from whatever system you adhere to. Now that the the mainstream medical system not so great, because they will often just still treat you like you're crazy, and they'd sooner medicate you then give you the right kind of support. But if there are environmental health clinics in your in your sphere, it's a good place to start. Or any, anyone who practices natural medicine, who understands something about this, or even finding, like I do, coaching in this area. So finding someone, there are now more people than there used to be online who are offering support around all of this. Yeah, I

Linda Orsini:

think in the natural realm, absolutely for sure. Yeah, it's so funny because one of my brothers says to me, and it just really startled me, he says, If I pinch you, I can't feel it. And so it's true, what our experience is, the other person can't feel it. So if you are even in a home, and I have a friend who is in a home where she's experiencing all these effects and the others aren't. Is it's hard to get them on board when they're not experiencing it? No,

Veronica Ciandre:

it's very it's very difficult. I've seen it for years with different people. It's very difficult to get people on board, you know? So sometimes it leaves people with unfortunate choices. You know, I've known people to move just like I know one person who moved as far north in Ontario as you could possibly go. I think it's about seven hours north, like almost at the tip, northernmost tip, where no electricity, no Wi Fi and no electricity, even in her home, leaving her family behind because no one understood, and it felt like it was killing her, you know, and so she just completely separated herself from anyone or anything who didn't understand. Yeah,

Linda Orsini:

off the grid. That's what I always say, off the grid. Yeah, that is, that's when we really need compassion,

Veronica Ciandre:

right?

Veronica Ciandre:

breathe, yeah, that's the last one. Is really just that breathe and remember that this too shall pass. I literally had to remind myself over the two years that it took to start feeling and living more normally again. I literally just had to keep reminding myself that this too shall pass and to breathe daily, regularly, no matter what,

Linda Orsini:

that's a call for love. Oh my goodness. Like, you know, even though we're not experiencing it, can we really hold space for other people? Yeah, it's, it's, well, maybe this, this episode, will certainly help. And of course, the information that you have this PDF, I will also put the link in the show notes, and it's through your information. So number 10, beautiful, breathe,

Linda Orsini:

and deep longer breaths out to calm your nervous system. Now people listening hear you so vital and healthy, but that wasn't always the case. No

Veronica Ciandre:

no. Before this happened, I was vital and healthy when it happened, I everything about me was like a different person, like a much older person. Now this was, this was over 10 years ago, right? And so when it happened to me, I was just before I turned 50, and my body moved like I was 80. And there were other people who were dealing with the same, same symptoms, and for whatever reason, now we don't know what it feels like to be 80, for some reason, that was the number we all pulled in like it feels like I'm 80, and at this time, I was in my 40s, my late 40s, and so at the time, my hand eye coordination was gone, so my symptoms were chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, arthritis, heart palpitations, short and long term memory loss, severe tinnitus, I think I said, insomnia, and then my hands shook if I went to pick up a glass, my hands were sort of it was like I was always trembling inside, even if not on the outside. And I literally felt like I had just aged a whole lot. Every one of those symptoms have been reversed, every single one of them. And for some people, Dr Magda Havas, who is probably one of Canada's, like, leading experts on this whole subject, she's in a she was an associate professor at Trent University. She calls it the rapid aging syndrome, because she said people who have no idea this is happening, they just think they're aging. And sometimes it can happen, like in a space of weeks or months, all of a sudden they go from living a normal life to just seeming really elderly. And people think, Oh, they're their 60s, or whatever it is, you know, and I'm now in my 60s, and nobody would ever guess that I'm in my 60s. 90s, right? I move. I'm a spry as I was before this happened to me, but not during. During I just, I was just slow and in pain all the time.

Linda Orsini:

Were you in pain in your joints?

Veronica Ciandre:

Yeah, all of my joints, everything. I just felt. I felt old. I had symptoms of arthritis, symptoms of fibromyalgia, which is different than having those things, right? But I had the pain. I had the pain of fibromyalgia, which was just kind of, you couldn't really identify where it was, just sort of in your muscles, just, it's just pain. Still can't even it was like it was in your muscles, in your arms, your legs. It's just pain in your body. Headaches, that the memory loss was incredible. I was unable to spell words that I've been selling spelling since I was like five years old. Couldn't spell and that's all. It's all back to normal now, right? So

Linda Orsini:

that's that's very empowering and hopeful for people to hear that. You know, we can reverse these symptoms if they take the action steps, and it takes a little bit of commitment and a little inconvenience,

Veronica Ciandre:

yes, until it becomes until it becomes normal, that's the hardest part. Is to change habits. And one of the things I always say to people is that the fear will kill you before the frequency does so. It's important to become active, but not fearful. We've been living with it for this long. Don't become afraid all of a sudden because of what you've just heard. It's already there. It hasn't killed you, right? If you're already feeling a lot of symptoms, then yes, you're probably going to get become really diligent and do a lot of this, and that's important. But if you're not and you're feeling well, take your time and make the changes that you can so that you stay that way, but becoming afraid will go against the granny

Linda Orsini:

Absolutely. Well. Thank you for sharing all these really valuable, valuable insights and and I do ask, you know, each guest on the show, I think you have mentioned it, but you know, a call for love is always living in mindfulness, purposefully living through your higher self. So if you feel yourself depleting, how do you shift into loving kindness for yourself and others?

Veronica Ciandre:

So what I have to do is I choose to slow down and sort of pay attention, like stay off my phone as much as you know what I mean, as much as I can, and pay attention. And then in the places where I can see that I'm feeling sensitive, I actually have an array of recordings that I have done using Sol fagio frequencies that will just remind me of what I need to remind myself of, whether it's loving myself. There are new narratives. Basically, there's a body of work that I do that's called Sound of I Am, and then I'll start listening to them, I will sleep with them, and it just completely reminds and reconnects neural pathways of the truth of who I am, and that, for me is I can't live without I mean, I have a daily meditation practice, and I will often just extend that to, like, three hours long. I'll just stay in connection with source for longer than usual.

Linda Orsini:

That's so beautiful. My word this year is I am. And I listened to it from Dr Wayne Dyer. He has a I am on YouTube, but that is my number one source. Now, really remember dropping into who I am, so I'm not all this surrounding and what I'm wearing, although I do love my healing jewelry,

Veronica Ciandre:

it supports you. It's not responsible for healing you. But no, I am. Is a really, really huge part of my work, like huge part of my work, better just

Linda Orsini:

saying that we share that commonality. That's, but you know what? It's, it's, it's very it's old, yeah, well, it's, yes, it's

Veronica Ciandre:

an old, it's an old, powerful. They say that, as you know already, that they're two of the most powerful words in the universe. And so when we reconnect to that that work, we're really reconnecting to the source of who we are. And so a lot of my work ends up based on that

Linda Orsini:

I am, that I am right. Oh yes, true.

Veronica Ciandre:

And then the fact that I'm an Aries, so in I don't know if you know all of the birth signs, yes, a couple of words, like quote and mine. For Aries, it's I am. Oh, beautiful. Aries is the I am represents the head. And, you know, sometimes we need to settle into just being, but, um, but yeah, so it's always been close to me.

Linda Orsini:

Yeah, I always say that. And when I guide meditation, you know, who are we? Actually, there's a meditation on akofa love. Who am I? But it's not even our breath, it's the energy of our breath, you know. So we are the energy, the one source like that unites us all. Yes. Yeah, beautiful. Well, I thank you so much Veronica for sharing these really important tools for us to empower ourselves to live more consciously and healthy right taking control of what we can and making those shifts to live better.

Veronica Ciandre:

Yeah, well, thank you so much for having me. I really love sharing this information, and it really is just like what you just said. It really is about controlling the environment that you can control. You can't what's outside or next door or coming from the neighbors, but you can do, you know, clean up this as best you can. And that's, that's, that's all you can that's all you could do, all you need to do, yeah, on the outside, yeah,

Linda Orsini:

well, and then there's always the inside, which we did. So thank you everybody for listening to a call for love, just wishing you good health and empowering yourself to make those changes that resonate with you. Thank you. Thank.

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