This week’s guest is Josh Young, Chief of Staff at New Story Charity.
New Story is focused on looking for innovative ways to solve the global housing crisis and homelessness. New Story Charity is the first such organisation to be part of Y Combinator. In 2018, they built their first 3D printed home and since then have built over 3000 homes in 4 countries. Looking for a place to give? 100% of donations go to the actual building of homes.
During college, Josh was a two sport Division 1 athlete and double-majored. He went to work on Wall Street right after graduating and you’ll hear why he moved on from that career and went to work on the State Senate campaign for Barry Finegold before getting accepted to Harvard for grad school and eventually taking his role at New Story Charity.
Losing his dad at a young age affected how Josh has lived his life and the role he has played in his family. We talk a bit about that too. He shares advice that I think a lot of people need to hear during what has been a time of transition. Listen up!
Note from Rabiah (Host):
Josh is one of the kindest and most centred guests I have had on the podcast so far. I have so much respect for the discipline and though he has about how he lives his life and how he has pursued his path. Let me know what you think and if you feel like it, send a donation to New Story Charity. I did.
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Find Josh
New Story Charity: https://newstorycharity.org/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joshua_lc_young
Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/joshua_lc_young
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Mentioned in this episode:
Y Combinator: https://www.ycombinator.com/
Barry Finegold: https://www.barryfinegold.com/
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Rabiah Coon (Host):Hey everyone.
Rabiah Coon (Host):So my guest is Josh Young.
Rabiah Coon (Host):He's Chief of Staff at New Story Charity.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Thanks for being on Josh.
Rabiah Coon (Host):How are you doing?
Josh Young:Yeah, it's a pleasure to be on.
Josh Young:Thanks for the invite I'm doing well and you?
Rabiah Coon (Host):Doing fine.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Thanks.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And where am I talking to you from?
Josh Young:I am in Atlanta, kind of a layover between where
Josh Young:I was and on my way to Mexico.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Are you going to Mexico.
Rabiah Coon (Host):for work?
Josh Young:Yep.
Josh Young:We have a community we're building down there a few actually.
Josh Young:So I'm really excited to check it out, work with our local partners.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Amazing.
Rabiah Coon (Host):So why don't we just dive right into what is New Story
Rabiah Coon (Host):? Josh Young: Yeah, for sure.
Rabiah Coon (Host):I'm the Chief of Staff at New Story.
Rabiah Coon (Host):We are a nonprofit organization that is focused on pioneering
Rabiah Coon (Host):solutions and global homelessness.
Rabiah Coon (Host):That's our mission to look for innovative ways to solve the housing crisis globally.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Our focus is on new innovations.
Rabiah Coon (Host):So each community we build, we have a different concept we're trying to prove.
Rabiah Coon (Host):All of that goes towards lowering the cost of construction, increasing
Rabiah Coon (Host):the speed of construction all while maintaining or even increasing
Rabiah Coon (Host):the quality of homes being built.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And we're bringing it to the world's most vulnerable families when typically
Rabiah Coon (Host):innovation reaches them last, if at all.
Rabiah Coon (Host):That's amazing.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And I mean, just so in talking about homelessness, I mean, that's something.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Is a problem.
Rabiah Coon (Host):I grew up in California.
Rabiah Coon (Host):It's a big problem there.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Everyone knows about San Francisco.
Rabiah Coon (Host):I think it's like famous for, for that.
Rabiah Coon (Host):But then I'm here in London now.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And there's definitely a problem here too.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And more of a, I would say more socialized country, right?
Rabiah Coon (Host):And so I think around homelessness too, there's a big stigma around people
Rabiah Coon (Host):because there's the mental health aspect, maybe the possible substance abuse
Rabiah Coon (Host):aspect, but then also there's just people who lose their jobs and stuff that, and
Rabiah Coon (Host):for any of them, no one really deserves to not have a home or to be unhoused.
Rabiah Coon (Host):So what, what for you, I guess, do you say maybe if someone, if you tell
Rabiah Coon (Host):someone you work with the homeless and they kind of make a derogatory
Rabiah Coon (Host):comment, or do you hear that?
Rabiah Coon (Host):I mean, I do.
Rabiah Coon (Host):So I don't know if you do, but I I'd be curious.
Josh Young:Yeah, for sure.
Josh Young:I mean, there's always going to be someone with the perspective that
Josh Young:they're in that situation for a reason that they have some control over which
Josh Young:most of the time is not the case.
Josh Young:Specifically the work we do, we're focused in Latin America where we're building.
Josh Young:There's a few reasons I could get into, but there, there is simply no path to home
Josh Young:ownership, one of the reasons being that 70% of the population in El Salvador and
Josh Young:Mexico, where we build, they're unbanked.
Josh Young:So there are, there's no access to affordable loans, especially
Josh Young:long-term housing loans.
Josh Young:There's not opportunities for land ownership and identifying who actually
Josh Young:owns the land and the documentation.
Josh Young:So really what we're actually pivoting towards is just making affordable housing
Josh Young:possible for families who, you know, have some level of income, are working towards
Josh Young:making a better life for their family.
Josh Young:And how just having the opportunity to be able to buy your own home at an
Josh Young:affordable rate is something that's unheard of in a lot of the world.
Josh Young:So, I mean, housing affects more people than any crisis other than arguably
Josh Young:climate change, which affects everybody.
Josh Young:But the housing crisis, 1.6 billion people in the world live
Josh Young:homeless or in inadequate shelter.
Josh Young:That means ground floors dirt floors, tin walls, tarp roofs.
Josh Young:Just something that doesn't provide dignity and respect.
Josh Young:And we are working towards bringing that total number down, but
Josh Young:unfortunately it's actually going up.
Josh Young:So the UN is projecting that number to grow to 3 billion by 2030 part
Josh Young:partly because of natural disasters, different economic situations.
Josh Young:But the number's going up, so we realized we needed to do things differently.
Josh Young:And that's kind of what New Story was set out to do.
Josh Young:So named New Story for two reasons, a new story for families who
Josh Young:are receiving the gift of home, the beneficiaries of housing.
Josh Young:And two, a new story for nonprofits.
Josh Young:So a nonprofit that operates with complete transparency.
Josh Young:We guarantee and promise that a hundred percent of all donations
Josh Young:go towards construction costs.
Josh Young:None of it goes towards operations.
Josh Young:And, on top of that, we are doing things that are innovative.
Josh Young:Typically non-profits play it safe.
Josh Young:They don't take any risks, but when you're working with something as prominent and
Josh Young:global as housing crisis, you need to do things differently it to, change it.
Rabiah Coon (Host):That's great.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And thanks for sharing all that.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And especially those stats around homelessness, because I think everyone
Rabiah Coon (Host):becomes aware of what's going on in their community and what they
Rabiah Coon (Host):see in their community, but that's not necessarily like the full view.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And then culturally it is different in other countries like, if you're
Rabiah Coon (Host):talking about Latin America.
Rabiah Coon (Host):But even if you look at the U S the housing market is so
Rabiah Coon (Host):insane at this point, right?
Josh Young:Absolutely.
Rabiah Coon (Host):I don't know.
Rabiah Coon (Host):I mean, I don't know how people can afford anything
Josh Young:And there's lots of predatory practices, not just internationally,
Josh Young:but domestically too, like everywhere, the people are taking advantage of
Josh Young:the most vulnerable population so th you know, just being able to offer
Josh Young:opportunities where someone can have a path to home ownership for generations.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Amazing.
Rabiah Coon (Host):I know what one of the innovations is just because, and I just full disclosure, I
Rabiah Coon (Host):heard Josh on another podcast and I was like, I got to get this guy on my podcast.
Rabiah Coon (Host):So that's how he's here.
Rabiah Coon (Host):But you were talking about like 3d printing.
Rabiah Coon (Host):So can you talk about that innovation and then any other one, but that's the
Rabiah Coon (Host):first one, just cause I know about it.
Josh Young:Yeah, no 3d printing is easiest, easily.
Josh Young:Our flashiest innovation, like it makes people go like, hopefully
Josh Young:you can 3d print an entire home.
Josh Young:Honestly, one of the things that drew me to new story, or at least
Josh Young:caught my attention when I joined.
Josh Young:But yeah, 2018, we went viral for creating the world's first 3d printed community.
Josh Young:So we led the the research and development of this product.
Josh Young:And in 24 hours, a printer can completely.
Josh Young:A 3d printed home.
Josh Young:So it it looks a lot like soft serve ice cream.
Josh Young:It comes out this cement mix layers on layers.
Josh Young:And then you put on the roof afterwards.
Josh Young:The algorithm leave space for doors and windows, electrical
Josh Young:outlets that you put in afterwards.
Josh Young:And it's crazy.
Josh Young:It's absolutely insane.
Josh Young:And I'm going to brag on New Story a little bit.
Josh Young:I'm really proud of of the organization, but we were one of the first non-profits
Josh Young:to ever be accepted and graduate Y Combinator, which if you've never
Josh Young:heard of Y Combinator is the premier startup accelerator in the world.
Josh Young:They produced Airbnb and Door Dash and Coinbase, a long list of for-profit
Josh Young:companies that everybody's heard of.
Josh Young:And then we were the first nonprofit that they devoted time and resources
Josh Young:to, and that really solidified our DNA.
Josh Young:We were accepted into Y Combinator for the innovation for nonprofits that
Josh Young:we completely separate our operations budget from our home building budget.
Josh Young:So, operations from impact and our operations are funded by a private donor
Josh Young:group that we call the builders, but they donate to the things like they pay
Josh Young:for my salary, different events we host.
Josh Young:Things that enable New Story as an organization to grow.
Josh Young:And then that expands our work.
Josh Young:And they're part of the journey in that way.
Josh Young:And that allows us to promise that a hundred percent of all donations
Josh Young:go directly to home building costs.
Josh Young:Being in Y Combinator, that really just solidified our DNA.
Josh Young:We had to do the same course and held to the same standards as all these
Josh Young:for-profit tech companies that were thinking about things so differently.
Josh Young:And we did the same, even though we were a nonprofit, we were doing that same thing.
Josh Young:And that inspired us to take a risk on 3d printing, which
Josh Young:ended up being a huge success.
Josh Young:But originally, you know, a lot of people were saying you're a nonprofit just
Josh Young:worry about doing things the typical way, be safe with your money, blah, blah.
Josh Young:But because of this builder group, that funds opportunities for us to take risks.
Josh Young:So they fund R and D on things.
Josh Young:They paid for the 3d printing.
Josh Young:That enables us to do things in that way.
Josh Young:Take bigger risks.
Josh Young:And since then we have been named one of the most innovative
Josh Young:companies in the world, four years out of our six year lifespan.
Josh Young:We were featured in an Apple TV documentary and we were featured on
Josh Young:the front page of the New York Times.
Josh Young:And even most importantly, we've built, over 3000 homes
Josh Young:in poor different countries.
Josh Young:And, completely changing the lives of close to 15,000 people so far.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Amazing.
Rabiah Coon (Host):That's really cool.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And just so I want to go back to the 3d printing now.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Everyone listening may not have seen a 3d printer.
Rabiah Coon (Host):I've seen one.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And like, I have a friend who makes toys or whatever,
Josh Young:yeah,
Josh Young:yeah, yeah.
Rabiah Coon (Host):but to scale that to a house, is it
Rabiah Coon (Host):building the whole structure?
Rabiah Coon (Host):And also maybe can you just explain the process the best you can I guess?
Josh Young:Yeah, for sure.
Josh Young:So it's a mostly cement mix.
Josh Young:There is a percentage that is proprietary that basically we
Josh Young:have these engineers onsite.
Josh Young:They stay on site the entire time while the 3d printer is printing.
Josh Young:We played, paid for the research and develop.
Josh Young:To make this happen.
Josh Young:And yeah, we displayed it at ASW.
Josh Young:And it's up to all U.S.
Josh Young:Building codes, but all of the walls and like parts of the
Josh Young:foundation are 3d printed within 24 hours, you can do an entire home.
Josh Young:We pride ourselves on using all local labor and all local
Josh Young:materials in our communities.
Josh Young:So, you know, we don't want to be in a position where helping hurts and
Josh Young:we're taking jobs from construction people within that community.
Josh Young:And we pay everybody at a profit.
Josh Young:So not only are we empowering people to receive homes, but we're also.
Josh Young:Empowering the economy to thrive so complete community buy-in we
Josh Young:even sometimes train new people to have these types of skills.
Josh Young:So then they can get construction jobs after as well.
Josh Young:And the 3d printing still leaves room for we buy the material.
Josh Young:To make the cement mix.
Josh Young:And then we also have laborers who do the doors, the windows, the roofing,
Josh Young:the painting, all that type of stuff.
Rabiah Coon (Host):That's amazing.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And so when you guys have the home printed, I mean, as you
Rabiah Coon (Host):mentioned, it looks like soft serve.
Rabiah Coon (Host):I mean, if people haven't seen it, it just does layers like
Rabiah Coon (Host):building up basically a 3d printer.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And so do you have to, like, I guess you have to finish all the
Rabiah Coon (Host):walls off to and stuff, right?
Rabiah Coon (Host):Or do you just have like Lincoln log cabins looking?
Josh Young:They do.
Josh Young:I think they look really cool.
Josh Young:Lincoln log Cavaney there.
Josh Young:We don't flatten it, so it is kind of rolled.
Josh Young:It looks a little bit, It has a unique kind of look to it.
Josh Young:Yeah,
Rabiah Coon (Host):But the material is insulated and like enough?
Josh Young:Yep.
Rabiah Coon (Host):It's so cool cause it seems even from a sustainability
Rabiah Coon (Host):perspective, then you're not using like wood, for example, that is finite
Rabiah Coon (Host):resource, as we know, and things like
Josh Young:Yeah.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Huh.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And then as far as, so I'll just say, and I've said on the podcast,
Rabiah Coon (Host):so people will probably are tired of hearing about it, but that's how it is.
Rabiah Coon (Host):I hope they're not, I hope they're inspired, but I've been in this
Rabiah Coon (Host):Public Leadership Credential program at Harvard Kennedy.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And one thing we learned about is leadership building for change and,
Rabiah Coon (Host):and part of that's like going into the community and understanding the community
Rabiah Coon (Host):and understanding what the environment you're working in and the culture there
Rabiah Coon (Host):and the norms and stuff like that.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And so it sounds like with you guys doing the whole job
Rabiah Coon (Host):creation thing, you guys do that.
Rabiah Coon (Host):So is that part of your work that you're doing is because you could just go in
Rabiah Coon (Host):and start printing homes, but what if they don't want homes or something?
Rabiah Coon (Host):Right.
Josh Young:Oh a hundred percent.
Josh Young:So probably the thing I'm most proud of at new story is our innovation within.
Josh Young:Serving.
Josh Young:So we have a lean participatory design process is what we call it.
Josh Young:And it's simply, we interview all the families who will receive homes.
Josh Young:Before we start construction, we make sure that we are building on desirable land.
Josh Young:We build homes that are appropriate for their culture
Josh Young:that they want, that they need.
Josh Young:And then they get to be a part of the design process, not just the homes,
Josh Young:but of the community in general.
Josh Young:We've found that this has so many tremendous benefits.
Josh Young:And one of the reasons actually, we got named as one of the most
Josh Young:innovative companies in the way.
Josh Young:Like it seems so simple.
Josh Young:Like the compared to 3d printing, like this is just ask like, you know.
Josh Young:Treat people with dignity and respect as people and allowed them to tell
Josh Young:you what they need, what they want.
Josh Young:So we host this big process where all the families come, every person
Josh Young:gets to share their worries, their concerns, their hopes, and their dreams.
Josh Young:And together, we design a community that works for them.
Josh Young:So I'll share two quick examples, one you know, a nonprofit where.
Josh Young:And they went and built homes in Africa and this particular village, they, they
Josh Young:just built homes without asking first and they put toilets in the house.
Josh Young:And in that village, you didn't go to the bathroom inside your house.
Josh Young:An outhouse separate.
Josh Young:So literally nobody wanted to move into these homes.
Josh Young:And th th that, it's just such a simple thing.
Josh Young:Like if they had talked to anybody, they would have known, oh, we
Josh Young:don't put a bathroom in the house.
Josh Young:We'll make a separate room outside of the house that's for a bathroom.
Josh Young:And then, you know, another example is the Mexican government set out to be.
Josh Young:2 million homes and in early two thousands and to their credit,
Josh Young:they did build 2 million homes, but they focused on building just
Josh Young:as cheap as they possibly could.
Josh Young:That meant building on undesirable land and using building materials
Josh Young:that weren't made to last.
Josh Young:So within a decade of those 2 million homes over 800,000
Josh Young:are abandoned they're oh yeah.
Josh Young:They're too far away from the cities where people need to go to work, there was no
Josh Young:public transport kind of to, to go there.
Josh Young:The, the, there were no schools in the area and.
Josh Young:They just didn't provide a, a true community for, for
Josh Young:these families to thrive.
Josh Young:So they ended up having to abandon this dream, like a safe quality home and
Josh Young:that, you know, kind of squat outside the cities, like it was starting over.
Josh Young:And it's just really sad to see that process unfold.
Josh Young:So.
Josh Young:You know, one of our things is we'll never sacrifice quality for cost cutting.
Josh Young:Although our, one of our focus is cutting costs, not at the expense of quality
Rabiah Coon (Host):Yeah.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And that's, I mean, it's funny because these problems occur in different
Rabiah Coon (Host):sectors, like I'm in technology.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And I'll see, for example, people wanting to cut a feature, but it would
Rabiah Coon (Host):be useful for the users, but then it's saving money, but then you're
Rabiah Coon (Host):taking away something they could use.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And especially when you look at accessibility of
Rabiah Coon (Host):websites and stuff like that.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Right.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And it's very similar to what you're seeing in the housing
Rabiah Coon (Host):and the physical space.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And, and then at what point are you not serving the purpose of the client or the
Rabiah Coon (Host):benefactor of the charity or, or whatever?
Rabiah Coon (Host):So it's good you guys look at that.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Is this like your, one of your first jobs out of school, basically?
Josh Young:I started out as a, I went right to Wall Street after school.
Josh Young:So I did sports and academics.
Josh Young:Excelled.
Josh Young:And that's literally all I did.
Josh Young:Binders on kind of took advice from mentors.
Josh Young:And everybody said, if you excel, you go work on Wall Street.
Josh Young:That's what you do.
Josh Young:And then, you know, different movements in my heart.
Josh Young:I ended up switching to move in with a mentor and work on his
Josh Young:political campaign in the States.
Josh Young:And we won that campaign and got introduced to a tech CEO.
Josh Young:Ended up taking a job there and then got accepted to Harvard grad school
Josh Young:right before the pandemic started.
Josh Young:So I actually met New Story's CEO, on their last day in office before
Josh Young:the pandemic shut everything down.
Josh Young:And we just really hit it off.
Josh Young:It was also during a, a time in my personal life where I was just
Josh Young:like feeling moved and looking for where I was being called to next.
Josh Young:And, when the pandemic happened, there was just so much chaos and something that
Josh Young:the entire world was struggling against.
Josh Young:It was within that chaos, a unique opportunity to lead and to love.
Josh Young:And I wanted to do that on the front lines, not in grad school.
Josh Young:So I ended up declining going to Harvard grad school to join New Story full-time.
Josh Young:It's funny too, because the CEO and the board just decided to do a hiring freeze.
Josh Young:So like he, I remember emailing him cause he's like, Hey, can
Josh Young:we put this off for a while?
Josh Young:Like we just did a hiring freeze and like, oh, no worries.
Josh Young:Like, I'll just go to grad school.
Josh Young:Kind of like we're both in flux.
Josh Young:And then he ended up calling me right after he goes, you know what,
Josh Young:we're going to hire you anyway.
Josh Young:And so we both kind of took a big risk on each other, like him, him
Josh Young:hiring someone with the biggest uncertainty of our lifetime and
Josh Young:then me declining grad school.
Josh Young:So, it all worked out because now it's, it's been a great ride.
Josh Young:So far..
Rabiah Coon (Host):Yeah, that's incredible, incredible timing.
Rabiah Coon (Host):So then I'm going to make you dive into a little bit of what you
Rabiah Coon (Host):just skimmed through right now.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Let's talk about when you were in school.
Rabiah Coon (Host):So.
Rabiah Coon (Host):you were playing football and you did wrestling and you
Rabiah Coon (Host):were doing well in school?
Josh Young:Yeah.
Josh Young:I mean, it's something I'm super proud of is leading that type of disciplined life.
Josh Young:And honestly, one of the most fulfilling times focused on a very clear goal.
Josh Young:Had teammates.
Josh Young:I still wear a bracelet that says I am second on it for a couple of reasons.
Josh Young:I am second to; God comes, first family comes first and then my team comes first.
Josh Young:So I'm kind of needs of the collective over my personal preferences is
Josh Young:kind of how I, I viewed that.
Josh Young:And when I was younger, So I look, we lost our dad at a really young age.
Josh Young:I was six years old and my two younger brothers kind of look to follow my lead.
Josh Young:So I took that very seriously.
Josh Young:And that it basically, if it wasn't gonna help me in sports or helped me
Josh Young:in academics, I ignored it completely.
Josh Young:So, I mean, I wouldn't recommend that necessarily.
Josh Young:I think it's important to take risks, but not at the expense of ruining something
Josh Young:that, you know, you know is good.
Josh Young:So, as someone who felt the responsibility of leading and doing everything on a
Josh Young:good path, I decided not to take any risks and I focused on school and sports.
Josh Young:My younger brothers, one of the most proud things of my life is that
Josh Young:they got into Ivy league schools.
Josh Young:One is just graduated from Columbia University.
Josh Young:He was a football wrestler there.
Josh Young:And then my youngest brother is a Harvard undergrad.
Josh Young:So just kind of focusing on setting a good example for them.
Rabiah Coon (Host):I'm sorry about your dad, by the way.
Rabiah Coon (Host):That's something, even though it was when you were six, it's still
Rabiah Coon (Host):not something to not acknowledge.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Right.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And so I'm really sorry you went through that.
Rabiah Coon (Host):I'll share with you, I mean, I've lost my brother.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And part of that has led me to have service be a bigger part of my life.
Rabiah Coon (Host):I don't have the religious aspect that you do, but we can talk about that, but
Rabiah Coon (Host):I have that kind of mindset as well.
Rabiah Coon (Host):So I like that.
Rabiah Coon (Host):I'm second.
Rabiah Coon (Host):That's actually really resonating, but I know too, part of what I do is sometimes
Rabiah Coon (Host):serve others kind of to honor him.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And do you find that that's part of what you've done with your dad?
Rabiah Coon (Host):Or how, how has that shown itself.
Josh Young:For sure.
Josh Young:Most of my adolescent time was spent emulating things I
Josh Young:thought my father did, you know?
Josh Young:It just kind of doing things that would make him proud.
Josh Young:I still, to this day, that's kind of what I think about what
Josh Young:what's gonna make my dad proud.
Josh Young:Yeah.
Josh Young:And in is a huge influence on my life.
Josh Young:My mom is one of the most influential people.
Josh Young:Ever and like you would, her personality is so bubbly, so kind.
Josh Young:And she was my biggest cheerleader still to this day.
Josh Young:Like she'll still retweet all my tweets and like comment
Josh Young:on all my Instagram posts.
Josh Young:Like anything I put on LinkedIn, like she's the first person
Josh Young:to be like, oh my gosh.
Josh Young:And share it with all her friends.
Josh Young:And you know, one time she asked me, Josh, let me know if it's
Josh Young:too lame if I'm commenting on like your Twitter and whatever.
Josh Young:And I'm like, are you kidding me?
Josh Young:Like you're one, you gave everything to me, you provided
Josh Young:me with every opportunity.
Josh Young:When we were younger, she worked two jobs so that we could have somewhere to stay.
Josh Young:We all four of us shared one bedroom and you know, if anything's the opposite of
Josh Young:lame, it's what you have done for me.
Josh Young:So I'm proud, like you're sharing my tweets, like you're proud of me.
Josh Young:It's the opposite of lame.
Josh Young:But it it's, we didn't have a lot growing up, but we always had each
Josh Young:other and that love was enough.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Yeah.
Rabiah Coon (Host):That actually made me well up too so that, not every guest
Rabiah Coon (Host):does that, Josh does a good job.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And that's amazing about your mom.
Rabiah Coon (Host):So, you went to school and you did what you did there and focused and did well.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And then you went to Wall Street.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And so what, how was that for you going and being really what you
Rabiah Coon (Host):thought was successful at the time?
Rabiah Coon (Host):I mean, that was probably right.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And it was successful, not just what you thought, but it is successful, but then,
Rabiah Coon (Host):then going, this isn't resonating with me.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Can you talk a little bit about kind of that, because I think
Rabiah Coon (Host):that's, to me very interesting.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And to know how you got into what you're doing now, from there?
Josh Young:Yeah, for sure.
Josh Young:So with being a two sport Division One athlete and I also double majored.
Josh Young:I majored in business and then I double majored in philosophy for fun.
Josh Young:There wasn't a whole lot of time to think about goals
Josh Young:outside of my immediate things.
Josh Young:Like I want to win the next football game.
Josh Young:I want to put on 20 pounds.
Josh Young:I want to, you know, like there's very disciplined life choices you can
Josh Young:make for very straightforward goals.
Josh Young:I want to win this match on this day so I have to do this, this, and
Josh Young:this to prepare myself for that.
Josh Young:Once sports were a non-factor, grades are the same way.
Josh Young:Like you study, you put in the time you get a good grade at the end, right?
Josh Young:Once I graduated then there was a lot more time to think about what goals am
Josh Young:I making for myself in a longer term?
Josh Young:So, you know, still ambitious, but my drive was never money.
Josh Young:So I found that on Wall Street, the drive for success was purely money
Josh Young:. Like that was the factor of impact.
Josh Young:And it didn't resonate with me at all.
Josh Young:I wanted to make a positive impact in the work that I do day to day.
Josh Young:So it wasn't happening on Wall Street despite like being successful.
Josh Young:I had to reflect on, is it more important that I to the outside world
Josh Young:seem successful or like internally that I feel like I'm doing good work?
Josh Young:And ultimately I will knew I needed to be doing other work.
Josh Young:So within six months I actually switched to, the man's name is Barry Finegold.
Josh Young:He's a state Senator up in Massachusetts.
Josh Young:I moved in with him and his family and helped run his political campaign.
Josh Young:So he's a former Franklin Marshall, a football player.
Josh Young:He, he became my mentor and he's like, If you're interested in making an
Josh Young:impact, why don't you try politics?
Josh Young:Like come, you can live with me and my family.
Josh Young:And I said, sure.
Josh Young:So I left my job.
Josh Young:I moved to Massachusetts and that was that let's, let's make an impact together.
Josh Young:So, you know, I'm very much moved by my spirit.
Josh Young:It's different opportunities.
Josh Young:If I I'm always looking for a way to learn and to grow.
Josh Young:So, that's what led me to my position here.
Rabiah Coon (Host):That's really cool.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And it's good to me just not that you're asking me for feedback, or I have to
Rabiah Coon (Host):give you feedback, but good that you, that you figured that out because
Rabiah Coon (Host):that's the kind of thing where, and what I try to talk about on this podcast
Rabiah Coon (Host):a lot is just about, you know, not basically not being afraid to say yes.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And you said yes, because that's a big risk to go work on a State
Rabiah Coon (Host):Senate campaign, first of all.
Rabiah Coon (Host):To move into someone's home, but also to leave what everyone's
Rabiah Coon (Host):working for, which is a lot of money because like, are you nuts?
Rabiah Coon (Host):So for me, if I do something like that, I'm following something.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And for you it's, you're led by something which is more your faith, right?
Rabiah Coon (Host):But how do you.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Do you relate that to other people who maybe if they say, well, they
Rabiah Coon (Host):don't have that same faith, but they're still led by something
Rabiah Coon (Host):like, how do you feel about that?
Rabiah Coon (Host):And also how is that resonating for you and what you're doing?
Josh Young:Yeah so, the biggest advice I could give to someone,
Josh Young:especially early in your career.
Josh Young:Don't worry about title or your salary.
Josh Young:It is all about putting yourself in positions to learn and putting
Josh Young:yourself in position to get different opportunities presented to you.
Josh Young:So if you're not learning, if you're not being pushed, you need to find
Josh Young:a new place to, to work, right?
Josh Young:I think that a lot of times, especially because of the way academics is set
Josh Young:up, people are driven to one thing or another based off of things that
Josh Young:shouldn't really matter in the longterm.
Josh Young:So I think that although, yeah.
Josh Young:I mean, well, for going from Wall Street to a political campaign
Josh Young:was a like 90% decrease in salary.
Josh Young:Um, but the, you don't have to do anything that dramatic.
Josh Young:But the opportunities doing that definitely spring-boarded
Josh Young:my career afterwards.
Josh Young:So.
Josh Young:I don't think I necessarily get into Harvard grad school if I don't take risks.
Josh Young:And maybe in some people's eyes, take a step back.
Josh Young:But I'm more concerned about writing a long-term story.
Josh Young:So you might be able to work yourself up very quickly to making six figures,
Josh Young:but there might be a plateau right there, and you're not learning.
Josh Young:You're not growing.
Josh Young:You're not preparing yourself to be something greater, right?
Josh Young:And that you need to be able to reflect on that.
Josh Young:And if you need to take a salary decrease, or if you need to take
Josh Young:maybe what some might feel is a title that's not a promotion it might be
Josh Young:better for your long-term prospects.
Josh Young:And especially when you're early in your career, the $10,000 that you
Josh Young:might have in one position compared to another position doesn't matter.
Josh Young:It's much more important that you have an opportunity to do something that other
Josh Young:people aren't doing or getting a, an experience that other people wouldn't get.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Hmm.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Yeah.
Rabiah Coon (Host):it's very, very wise really.
Rabiah Coon (Host):but it's easy to follow that once you realize it, right?
Rabiah Coon (Host):I mean, that's the thing like once yeah.
Josh Young:I mean, it's, it's, it's harder to recommend to
Josh Young:somebody who has dependents.
Josh Young:So it there's a whole lot of life factors that play play into this.
Josh Young:But for someone who has just graduated college or, you know, early to mid
Josh Young:thirties, even sometimes a think.
Josh Young:Definitely.
Josh Young:If you need to take a step back to be spring-boarded forward,
Josh Young:that's usually how it happens.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Yeah.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And what was the grad school?
Rabiah Coon (Host):What was the degree you were going to do as a business?
Rabiah Coon (Host):Or what, what were you gonna do?
Josh Young:I was gonna so Kennedy school and the MBA program have a
Josh Young:dueled dual degree type of thing where like you can't get three years in four
Josh Young:years in three and they're connected.
Josh Young:They're connected.
Rabiah Coon (Host):With the public policy or public
Rabiah Coon (Host):administration one?
Rabiah Coon (Host):Okay.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Yeah.
Rabiah Coon (Host):So that's the program I'm in is their credential that's basically.
Rabiah Coon (Host):18 months that you're doing the, the intro to the public pol...
Rabiah Coon (Host):That's cool.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Oh, see, we were almost, I mean, I'm like fake Harvard at this point, but
Rabiah Coon (Host):yeah, we were almost in the same,
Rabiah Coon (Host):same similar programs.
Josh Young:I mean, I still want to, at some point go to the Kennedy school.
Josh Young:It so much cool stuff happening.
Josh Young:And I spend time with my brother.
Josh Young:He's a undergrad.
Josh Young:So, I can, as an accepted student, I can get into a lot of talks that are pretty
Josh Young:exclusive, but just awesome opportunities.
Josh Young:It, it's pretty unreal the stuff that comes through Harvard and
Josh Young:that you can take advantage of.
Josh Young:So, you know, if my goals allow for it, I'd love to learn there still
Rabiah Coon (Host):incredible.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Well, good.
Rabiah Coon (Host):So as far as one thing, I, I talk a lot about on this podcast, besides
Rabiah Coon (Host):what we, what we've done which is your path and how you got to some where
Rabiah Coon (Host):you're passionate about and service is what are you doing outside of work?
Rabiah Coon (Host):Because you're a non-profit you're, I mean, you are in a space that it's not,
Rabiah Coon (Host):maybe not necessarily life or death, literally, but it's really it's life
Rabiah Coon (Host):and it's providing a gift to people.
Rabiah Coon (Host):How do you, what do you do to balance that especially after coming
Rabiah Coon (Host):off of very intense academics and things that you did before, too?
Josh Young:Yeah.
Josh Young:I love to compete in, in, in anything.
Josh Young:So from board games to pick up basketball.
Josh Young:One of my favorite games is Catan.
Josh Young:And that's my, that's my like detached from the, from things
Josh Young:trying to swindle people in trades in Catan and, you know, like, Yeah.
Josh Young:I, I spent a lot of time with my brothers or, or other friends doing either
Josh Young:athletic competition or board games.
Josh Young:I'm not much of a video gamer, although any time Super Smash
Josh Young:Brothers comes up, I'm ready.
Josh Young:Like I played, so I've played so much Super Smash Brothers growing up.
Josh Young:And but other than that, don't really play much video games.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Yeah.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Cool.
Rabiah Coon (Host):So at least you keep yourself balanced basically?
Josh Young:Yeah.
Josh Young:More or less.
Josh Young:I mean, I also like to work out like, I mean, it's still part of my routine.
Josh Young:It makes me feel good to get a workout in.
Josh Young:So, that helps.
Josh Young:And then obviously my faith is one of the most important pillars for me.
Josh Young:So, being able to dive into that, or definitely watch church services
Josh Young:more online now than a ctually attending in person, but yeah.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Yeah.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Yeah.
Rabiah Coon (Host):I mean, that's how things went, which I think is good.
Rabiah Coon (Host):I mean, I think it's good that in different ways, one thing is like
Rabiah Coon (Host):people were able to technologically connect like you're stable to do
Rabiah Coon (Host):that and do what's important to you.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Awesome.
Rabiah Coon (Host):So Josh, I mean, I normally I'll ask, like, do you have advice to share?
Rabiah Coon (Host):But you already shared advice.
Rabiah Coon (Host):So.
Rabiah Coon (Host):I think that we'll just kind of go into the fun five questions.
Rabiah Coon (Host):So it's the questions I ask everybody just because I'm nosy and want to put
Rabiah Coon (Host):everyone in some kind of control group.
Josh Young:Cool.
Josh Young:Sounds good.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Okay.
Rabiah Coon (Host):So the first one, what's the oldest t-shirt you have and still wear?
Josh Young:Oh I still have a wrestling long sleeve t-shirt
Josh Young:from my youth program days.
Josh Young:So fifth grade, it, my mom bought it like super big so I
Josh Young:could wear it for a long time.
Josh Young:It has Young on the back and we were league champions.
Josh Young:And I still wear that shirt all the time to workout or even go to bed.
Josh Young:And it reminds me of some really good memories growing up wrestling,
Josh Young:but again, that's something I haven't thought about in a while.
Josh Young:Good question.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Well for mom to buy it that big, because I
Rabiah Coon (Host):imagine you were not your height or
Josh Young:Oh, no.
Josh Young:no.
Josh Young:I mean, she sh she bought lots of things in men's larges that
Josh Young:when, you know, when you're young, you don't even care that much.
Josh Young:But now I can still wear it.
Josh Young:So,
Rabiah Coon (Host):Yeah.
Josh Young:it's really cool.
Rabiah Coon (Host):But we all wore these big clothes.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Like I have some t-shirts I had in junior high.
Rabiah Coon (Host):I, I definitely gained something from them, but Yeah.
Rabiah Coon (Host):those so funny.
Rabiah Coon (Host):All right, cool.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And then this one is if everyday was like, Groundhog's Day
Rabiah Coon (Host):cause that's what it felt like for last couple of years.
Rabiah Coon (Host):What song would you have your alarm clock set to play every morning?
Josh Young:Oh
Josh Young:Probably a worship song.
Josh Young:Maybe something upbeat by Kirk Franklin.
Josh Young:Like Smile would be a good one, I think.
Josh Young:Yeah.
Rabiah Coon (Host):All right.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Good.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And I have a Spotify playlist, so I'll add that to it.
Rabiah Coon (Host):It might be my first worship song, actually.
Rabiah Coon (Host):So
Rabiah Coon (Host):that'll be yours.
Rabiah Coon (Host):All right.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And then coffee or tea or neither?
Josh Young:Tea.
Josh Young:My mom used to make us, me tea every morning and put milk in it.
Josh Young:And yeah,
Rabiah Coon (Host):That's what you do.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Do you put the milk first or after?
Josh Young:After I'd I don't drink coffee, but I still, I do love tea.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Okay.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Cool.
Rabiah Coon (Host):So can you think of something that just makes you like laugh so hard you cry or
Rabiah Coon (Host):just cracks you up when you think about it or some incident that happened lately?
Rabiah Coon (Host):I just, again, I told you I'm nosy.
Josh Young:Oh gosh.
Josh Young:My youngest brother can make me belly laugh, like no other.
Josh Young:So we would have dinners when we were younger and my grandpa would, would
Josh Young:get so upset cause we would literally not stop laughing and like sometimes
Josh Young:food would come out of our mouth.
Josh Young:Like every once in a while milk would come out of our nose and he would
Josh Young:always kick out my youngest brother.
Josh Young:be like, all right, Joe, you have to go to the den.
Josh Young:And he be like, no, Pap, please I'll be good.
Josh Young:But it was like so sad, but so like looking back on it just so funny.
Josh Young:Cause he wasn't even trying to be funny sometimes.
Josh Young:just being himself and we, we would lose it.
Josh Young:And he can still make me belly laugh, like over little random things, but
Josh Young:I can still picture him being this cute little kid who just his older
Josh Young:brothers won't stop laughing at.
Josh Young:And then he has to go in time out.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Josh, that was so us too, the three of
Rabiah Coon (Host):us and my mom would get mad.
Rabiah Coon (Host):I mean, my sister and I, my sister was a guest one time we were talking about,
Rabiah Coon (Host):she was so mad at us and it was amazing
Josh Young:Yeah,
Rabiah Coon (Host):And only your siblings can really make you
Rabiah Coon (Host):laugh like that, like in that way.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Yeah.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Oh, cool.
Rabiah Coon (Host):That's great.
Rabiah Coon (Host):All right.
Rabiah Coon (Host):And last one who inspires you right now?
Josh Young:My mom, she she's always going to be a huge inspiration to
Josh Young:me, just the way she carries herself.
Josh Young:And she's actually getting back in the gym.
Josh Young:I mentioned to you before the podcast recording started, but
Josh Young:I bought her a trip to Italy.
Josh Young:So, we're taking her there and she's super excited about it and wants to
Josh Young:be in her best physical shape so she can enjoy it and do all the hikes
Josh Young:that she wants to do and stuff.
Josh Young:So, she's been crushing it and like for a big portion of her life, as she
Josh Young:was raising us, she didn't have time to take care of herself the way she should.
Josh Young:So I'm proud of her for finally getting to do that, but also just her, her
Josh Young:selflessness and the way she just empowers people and makes people feel like they
Josh Young:want to be their best self on her.
Josh Young:It's something that inspires me.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Ah, that's a great.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Cool, well, and if people want to find you and find the charity also, where
Rabiah Coon (Host):do you want them to look for you?
Rabiah Coon (Host):And I'll have that in the show notes, obviously, too.
Josh Young:Yeah.
Josh Young:Well, new story, charity dot org (newstorycharity.org).
Josh Young:You can learn a lot about our organization.
Josh Young:My Twitter and Instagram handles are both Joshua underscore, LC
Josh Young:underscore Young (joshua_lc_young) just my full name and yeah, that's,
Josh Young:that's where you can check us out.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Okay.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Cool.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Well, Josh, this has been an absolute pleasure.
Rabiah Coon (Host):I really love talking to you and thanks so much for being on more than work.
Josh Young:Yeah, thanks.
Josh Young:I really enjoyed it too.
Josh Young:Thanks for having me.
Rabiah Coon (Host):Thanks for listening.
Rabiah Coon (Host):You can learn more about the guest and what was talked about in the show notes.
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Rabiah Coon (Host):You can find him on Spotify at Joe M A F F I A.
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