Episode Summary:

Welcome back to Season Two of the Minding My Creative Business Podcast! In this live, in-studio episode, hosts ShySpeaks and Ronald Lee Jr. delve into the crucial self-development strategies necessary for creative entrepreneurs aiming to scale their businesses to six, seven, or even eight figures. We explore the essential traits of vision, intention, consistency, risk-taking, curiosity, resilience, and confidence. Tune in to discover how these qualities can transform your creative endeavors into thriving enterprises. This episode is packed with insights, real-life examples, and actionable advice to help you elevate your entrepreneurial journey.

Timeline Summary:

- [0:07] - Introduction to the Mighty Migrator Business Podcast Season Two

- [1:44] - Importance of self-development for creative entrepreneurs

- [5:46] - Developing vision: Mapping out your ideal future

- [7:33] - The necessity of consistency despite challenges

- [10:35] - Overcoming the fear of others' perceptions

- [11:43] - Embracing risk-taking in entrepreneurship

- [15:12] - Recognizing your value and taking the leap

- [19:05] - Cultivating curiosity to drive innovation

- [24:27] - Building resilience to navigate setbacks

- [28:19] - Confidence: Believing in your skills and products

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Closing Remarks:

Thank you for tuning in to this episode of the Mighty Migrator Business Podcast! We hope you found valuable insights and strategies to apply to your own creative journey. If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, follow, share, and review our podcast. Stay tuned for more enriching discussions and expert advice in our upcoming episodes. Keep creating and stay inspired!

ShySpeaks 0:07

What's up everybody? Welcome to another episode of the mighty migrator business podcast. I am your host Shai speaks, and I am your host Ron ironically Jr. and this is the number one podcast for creative entrepreneurs to learn strategy, structure and self development all in one place. And this is Season Two whereby we are live in studio, again.

Ronald Lee Jr. 0:33

These episodes I really do, I'm enjoying them as well like to be here face to face been able to kind of chop it up and have our discussions in person opposed to you know, on the screen. Yeah. All right. So here's the thing.

ShySpeaks 0:47

Today, we talked about being the number one podcast so far, I just said, that's the number one podcast for strategy structure. And here's the part self development, because self development, actually is one of the most critical components to becoming a six, seven, or even eight figure entrepreneur. I say that because in season one, we actually interview a couple of guests, and most of them, there are some like mindset, psychology differences, they have that I would say some of the none, six to seven, eight figure creative entrepreneurs that I know. They don't possess those things. And so we want to talk about what it takes. Yeah, right. What do you have to do in order to become like, what what type of development things need to happen with you to move from just a creative to a creative entrepreneur? Yeah, let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. So who do you have to become? Right?

Ronald Lee Jr. 1:44

So one of the things that I've noticed, with all of them, right, and this even, you know, as as, as me and you interact and engage one another, is the number one thing that I see is vision, right? They have to have a vision and see themselves being this creative partner, they have to see themselves in business, not just creatives. I think, as I've seen ourselves as a creative, that's easy that comes that comes from that for us, it's like the air we breathe, but to actually see yourself in the business space, see yourself doing things on the business and and learning about the business. And that once again, doesn't come natural for you. It's something that you have to put a little bit of energy and work into, but just having a vision for Okay, what do I want this creative enterprise to actually look like? Right. And one of the things that I noticed when I talked to the ones we interviewed in season one, and some of the people who I know in person who we've not had a chance to interview is, that's built out of desire, the desire to turn my creativity from just being monetized to the side hustle, I need to turn it from a side hustle into more money because I got kids or I'm getting older, or I don't want to work a particular job that's not going to allow me to be as creative as I want to be. So how can I make this thing full time? Exactly. That desire has to be first of all started up within you. And then once you have the desire, that's cool to just have the desire and then you get into the point of okay, what what did that? What does that look like? What was the vision of that? Yeah. And you don't stumble up on vision? No, no, it's intentional. It hasn't been intentional.

So a few years back, that was my word for the year was being intentional, because it's like, the great things that you want to accomplish. It doesn't just happen. Like you said, you just don't stumble across it, you have to be very intentional. So it has to be okay. This is what I want based off my desire. And based off what I want, this is where I'm going based off your vision. So let me be intentional about the things that I do. And let me be intentional about the things that I don't do. Because if it's not helping me to get closer to my vision, then why am I doing it? Right, man. So we're right now we already we've already given two tools to actually that you have to develop within yourself to become this successful creative entrepreneur. And that's vision and intention. I just want to like, almost as if I'm interviewing you for a second while you're coaching other creative clients, or movers or shakers, artists, whatever they are, what's something you do to help them be like, develop vision, they know they want to make money and they have the desire and they have the skill? How do you help them like, start like, getting vision? Like what does that even mean? What do you do? So one of the things I do right is I asked him about it's almost like because vision is the future right? It's not what you see CURRENTLY Right? Not what's in front of you. So what's the future like what do you want your life to look like? Right? What do you want? So if it was everything was ideal, right? Money wasn't a thing. What would the ideal life look like? So then they start to kind of map that out. Okay, cool. This is gonna be this this this this this right now? Then I asked them Oh,

Okay, that's what you want it to look like now, how can you use your creative skill set your creative ability to get there? Right, right. So then they start to kind of think about that. So actually break it down into passion, right? What are you passionate about? Right? So I'll have them kind of make a list of things that they're passionate about, then what are you skillful at? Have them make a list of what they're skillful at? And then what is a need? Right? What is something that where you can look and see that, oh, people need this, or this is something that that can support people. And then when I have this, I do it. It's like these little circles, almost like the Olympics, right? You see the little circles, and there's overlap. So where the three circles overlap, right? That's that vision. Right?

ShySpeaks 5:46

That's the sweet spot. That's

Ronald Lee Jr. 5:47

the sweet spot, right? So because when you list out that passion, you list out that skill set, you list out that need, there's going to be repeats on those, right? And that's kind of where it starts from. So then once you once you can identify that, that's it, then we start doing that future pacing, okay for you to lean into that. Let's let's talk about the fields, let's talk about the desires, let's talk about these things. And that helps them to start creating a vision.

ShySpeaks 6:12

Wow. So if you are watching this right now, and you're like, Okay, I already have vision, I already have this thing going this other creative endeavor. But I have this other thing that I want to do. And you almost treat it like you're starting fresh, and you're getting vision for that thing. Ask yourself, what would my day look like? When you say, Oh, my life look like I want to say, say what my day looks like? That's, that's easier on a in a in an ideal world? What would you get? What time would you get up? What time would you start working? What time would you start working? And what would you be working on in between time? Like in that time of working? What? What projects? Would you be working on? What what what would work look like that will be invigorating for you that will be passionate for you that you will feel like Man, this is great. And about how much money would you be making? From doing that type of thing? Yeah, that's when we say your life, start with your day. And then we can then get into what he said, future painting, you know, future pays, he reels coach, that is we're gonna paste that future out. And then we're going to be intentional about what we're doing to make sure that it's serving them. Alright, so that's good. Moving right along, right. Okay, so they got this part where they had the vision, they're starting to be intentional about the actions that they're taking in the prisons so that it can serve a future that puts them closer towards that vision. What do they need to do from there,

Ronald Lee Jr. 7:33

you got to be consistent. So it's one thing to have a vision, it's one thing to be intentional about the steps and the things that you're doing. But if you're not consistent, you can't expect to get results. Oh, because, and listen, we're both creative, right. And we know that creatives in general struggle with consistency when it comes to certain things, in certain things, when it comes to creating, I don't think I've ever seen a creative struggle with consistency and creating, unless they

ShySpeaks 8:06

have like, block creators block than that, they they're gonna just create because this is what they gonna do. But

Ronald Lee Jr. 8:12

when it comes to that business, though, when it comes to that business, because I don't feel like I don't want to. So you have to be consistent despite how you feel, you have to be consistent despite what it what the perception may be. Right? You did that. You gotta be consistent

ShySpeaks 8:31

perception may be okay, we got to talk about that. This is not in the notes to talk about. But we got to talk about being consistent. Let's say you sat down with a mentor, you sat down with an advisor, you sat down with a friend, you sit down with a coach, y'all came up with a vision, you came up with how you're going to be intentional, you start doing it, you don't want to be consistent, because it's like, I don't feel like it. But now you move past feelings, and you're like, I'm doing it. But then there's this other thing that you have to do. If you want to be successful, you have to move past caring about what people are going to think you say, the perception of what is it going to look like if I just keep being consistent on this, whether it's gonna seem like I'm being salesy, or it's gonna seem like I'm overdoing it, or it's gonna seem like I'm being too much, or it's gonna seem like I'm distracted from talking about this, or it's gonna seem like, listen, it doesn't matter what he's gonna seem like, because you sat down, you got clear on your vision, you said, you were gonna be intentional, you're gonna start doing it, you might as well go ahead and stay consistent, but you have to stop caring about how he's going to be perceived. Because I'm not saying don't care about how it's gonna be perceived at all. Because at the end of the day, we're serving people, and you're serving clients. But as long as that perception is happening, and it's actually reaching the target market that is supposed to reach you're helping the people you're supposed to help. Who cares about how consistent is am I posting too much? Am I sending too many emails? Am I following up too many times? Am I calling them whatever it is, that's that the thing that you're going to have to do to be consistent? You can't you can't worry about like, and sometimes we're not even worried about offending our clients and our costs. Emerson really we were concerned about people who not,

right, our peers, our family, people that said, That's not our ideal customer or client. And like you said, You got to get past that. Because they're not buying from you No way. You're not. I don't listen. I don't care if somebody that's not my customer or client don't like what I'm doing. Yeah, they like

all you do is talk about that, oh, well, because somebody who want to hear about that, want to hear somebody always talk about that. So again, is not not caring about the perception, but you making sure you're caring about the perception and opinions of people who matter.

So I had to stop, right? No, listen, I'm mad at you, because

you really can't. One of my friends told me that she was like, Sis, I realized that a part of reason why I'm not successful, or as successful as I want to be as a creative is because I care too much about what people think. And she said, she felt like God was actually trying to break that off of her of being too concerned. Like, I guess, delivering her from people, to the point where it's like, I can't even help the people who I'm supposed to help, because I'm worried about what the other people gonna think. Right? And so you got to, I know that for a fact, like, who cares what people are gonna think? Like, who cares? Like if they're not the ones that really mattered, and they don't matter? Okay, another reason why people are unsuccessful in in trying to push a creative idea or an endeavor into actually a creative enterprise, is because they're afraid to take risk, risk taking, you gotta embrace that, like, who and as that one is easier said than done, I will be honest and say that, right? It's way easier said than done. Or, bro, you gotta risk taking, I guess I gotta restate your story.

Listen, you share you as far as I share, man, let

me let me be brief, I knew that I wanted to have an event, right? I started with an event and I said, I want the event to be called civilized. And I want it to be a driving concert, and conversation. And it was during like, the pandemic timeframe. And people weren't going to events like that. But if you gather in your car, as many people can gather as possible, we're gonna have the doubt in where they can be on the radio, they can listen to the car, they'll see the stage, they'll see the backdrop, all of that is gonna be really cool. And it's gonna be like a three to four hour event. We're gonna have concerts, conversations, food, this then the third eye has so much faith and doing a three hour event. After the event, it went successful. And one of the people who were the sponsors for say, oh, man, I can see you doing so much more with that. Like, have you ever considered doing a full like one day festival? Yeah, I have not right now thinking about. And so it's a risk. Because what if I tried to do that I know how to program a two hour event, a three hour event, to program enough content for an entire day you I think we sleep on event planning, shout out to the grid of entrepreneurs, or event planners, because if you keep people's attention all day, and keep them engaged and making sure it's enriching them and is doing what it's supposed to do, that takes something so I'm like, Man, number one, I'm gonna risk Am I gonna like my creativity and my organization skills cannot do it. But the second thing is, this is by the cause way more money than a three hour event. If I rent a venue for a couple of hours, it costs one thing, but if I need to renew for a full day, that's what I'm probably gonna need the venue the night before. So we've loaded sound checks, all these type of things. So I'm gonna actually spend way more money on this, but I have the potential of reaching and impacting way more people. So what's on the other side? What's standing in between me reaching more people and have more impact is a risk. I took it though, ya

know, cuz that's, that's a part of the characteristic has been afraid of manure, it's been able to take those risks. Right? And this in my, I've had so many, right, I'm just kind of just thinking over the years. And just me, me coming into the space. Really, I think, for me, my first client was really me taking a risk, cuz I didn't have a I had a proven framework, right. But I didn't know what it was. It was just me just sharing just my information, my knowledge that I've accumulated over, you know, 20 years. I mean, me doing what I do, right? But it was like, now somebody's willing to pay me money for it. It was just like when there was I have to tell you like, Hold on. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Oh, like there's no risk. If I'm just sharing information from like a mentor standpoint, you know, no risk, but now you paying me? And so now you're expecting something from me. And

if I can't deliver on the result, if you don't, how do I know this person is going to get results. So now I have to took a risk on yourself. I took a risk on myself,

right? But once again it something clicked right. I'm actually going out. So I took this couple out to lunch. And they said they learn more from me in that lunch than they had learned their entire life for five years today. I've been doing music. I had manners and other people to deal with You know, working with them before, but it was like we learned more from doing that lunch setting. So that was kind of like, okay, now let me do this. Let me let me let me go ahead and do this because it's I have value. We'll be right

back after these messages. You know, coming into the mind in my creative phases. What's the iron is because it's us in different color clothing. I mean, listen, we've been doing a lot of talk, and we want to make sure that you have an opportunity to make a statement as well, because we've

seen people make statements with their athletic apparel. We've even seen people make statements as entrepreneurs. But one thing I haven't seen is somebody makes a statement as a creative entrepreneur. So what we've done is we have given you an opportunity to make a statement as a creative entrepreneur. Oh, okay.

Okay. So if they want to make sure that they're rocking that creative printer gear, where can they go get that? You

can go get that gear from? What's the irony.com? All right, I have value to add. And I know that if they do the things that I'm encouraging them to do, and teaching them to do, I know this is gonna benefit them. I know for a fact. So

wow, you know, what this is making me think about is oftentimes, on this podcast, we talk about strategy, and structure, we talk about pricing strategies, revenue structure, expanding your products, we launch it out and offer new services. And wow, that's cool to own a mathematical tip to add more funding into your business, I never really thought about how much of a risk it is like that you have to take in order to feel like I can add this extra service. Right? Yeah, I don't know, if I'm going to be able to do it. It's a bit of a risk sometimes to like, We're now about to let everybody know, we offer this new thing, like, and hopefully we can deliver on it right. And so it is a risk to expand. Even

the fact that so many meet me and you both employ people. Right? That there is risky, because there's like, at the end of the day, when it comes to stuff we eat last, I make sure my people eat. Right. So that's risky.

It is it is risky. Here's the thing, we talked about the risks that I took earlier, this is like we're talking about like $100,000 Worth, right? And then there's like, several people who have to be paid. Yeah, right. So there's a venue, that's $20,000 There's artists that are getting paid 10s and 15 1000s of dollars, like, I'm gonna have to make sure I can pay all these people and I'm saying, Yeah, I'm gonna be able to do it right. And so you'll never get to the point where you're paying people hundreds of 1000s Because I want to be able to say I owe somebody $100,000 salary. Yeah, you will never get that if you can't take the $10,000 risk. If you can't take a $5,000 $100 man, there's a project that I have I'm producing this is Ron Ron is producing a project, somebody's gonna pay you $3,500. And I need to be able to, like, pay a couple of people $500 And know that we're gonna get the money, I'm gonna, we're gonna do the deliverable, you got to get to there before you can get to the 1000, you got to get to the 1000 before you can get to the 10. Or you got to get to the 10,000 before you get to $200,000. And so you have this vision of you being able to be a millionaire, but you're gonna have to be taking risk along the way. So you can build up that tenacity within yourself that says, Yeah, let's go for the next. I'll tell you, it sounds different. So another thing that we feel that needs to happen when we're talking about developing as a creative into a creative entrepreneur with a creative enterprise and starting to hit that six, seven, we talked about eight figure amounts, we say eight figures, that's okay. And y'all can count right? And that's some figures. You have to actually have this thing called Curiosity. Why why why? Why are we saying that? Because

you as a as a creative funder as entrepreneur, you're a problem solver, right? So, me solving problems? I don't have all the answers all the time, right? So I have to go seek and find the answer. So I have to keep this level of curiosity like hmm, I don't know how to do this. But let me find out how to do this. Who can I find that knows how to do this right? I love that who not how approach sometimes we try to figure out how but sometimes it's been defined to who right but once again, still that curiosity you always ask them questions, right? I think I asked more questions and entrepreneurship than I asked than any other endeavor I started my removed my relationship was there maybe related to them asking but you know, entrepreneurship is a relationship with business. Yeah. So other people give it other people so you constantly asking questions and staying curious because I I want to know how

then we're talking to creatives when we think About anything that has ever been invented, inventions only come out of curiosity. Sometimes, I mean, it comes out of there's a problem that I want to solve, but then that person says, I wonder what it will be like if we were able to get it. Right. So invention in and of itself is only housed out of the idea of or the wheelhouse of curiosity and innovation. Yeah. Right. So you have to have that. So maybe you're doing business a certain way. If you stay curious, you can invent an entire business model. We talked about that in season one with the fairies family, they were curious of like, the husband was like, Man, how can I get it to the point where we're keeping our consistency, the same with our photography, and videography business, but at the same time, I wonder if there's a way and he was curious, and he did wind up developing, most people who have photography and videography, can't see themselves having an agency, but he figured out a way to have an agency model still deliver on the same quality that he wouldn't deliver if he had done it himself. But that only came out of curiosity. So, I mean, Curiosity is very, very key to developing something new, or inventing something new. Right? Or innovating what you already have one story right here. A friend of mine says that she used to work in the apartment industry and in the apartment industry. There came with the whole valet services where people you don't have to take your trash to the dumpster. All you got to do was leave it right there by the door in the apartments and somebody would come by take your trash out for you that entire that's like an entire industry where people go get contracts with apartments to be do do valet services in luxury apartments or not even luxury apartments. Well, you know where that came from? A guy was curious. He saw a woman, she had a baby and another little baby and she was taking the trash out by herself in trying to let lug the kids around with because I gotta take the trash out. But I can't they're too little to stay in the house by themselves. And the trash was poor. And he saw he said, Ma'am, it's okay, I got you. And he grabbed the trash. He said, I'll go back. I'll take it for you. Another day happened. He saw with the trash and he was like, I can't see you trying to take the babies and told the trash. I got you. Let me take it for you. He didn't told me so you know what? Start doing this. He said every day I'm gonna take my trash out. I'm gonna walk by your place just leave your trash right by your I'm gonna walk by my apartment to the dumpster. On my way. I'm going to just don't even I don't even want to see you out here struggling with the trash. He said, he left he said leave it right there by your door. He said I'm gonna come by and I'm gonna pick it up and take mine out. So he she never had to worry about her trash in my door too long. Because every day, he's gonna walk by and do it. And then curiosity kicked in. He was doing it for this lady for so long. And he said to herself, Hmm, I'll do that for her for free, because I just want to help this lady, but I'm pretty sure other people could need help. He said, I wonder if other people sent their trash out, will be willing to do it for like a pay just for the convenience. So he said, No, I wonder if the apartment community would build into their fee a little, a little pricing model like $1 per door. Maybe this is a 2000 door or 200? Or like whatever he's like, what would they $5 per door, whatever, per month. So people are willing to pay $5 a month for valet trash. And now they're not having to pay him directly. He said, I wonder if the apartments could tack it onto the rent of the people who want valet trash. And I'll go by there, pick it up. And now you're just You said I'm saying just because he was curious, I wonder if the apartments could build this into their subscription model, which is what apartment rent is a regular month lease. You know what I'm saying? And he was curious enough. And now that he rented apartments, obviously they say yes. And then they're launched the valet trash and eventually became mandatory for the entire community. And it's just built into the model. And so he's getting $5 per door every month, over and over. And all he has to do is just walking around. He got to be in he started throwing the stuff in the band rolling around. Now you got people pull up in cars. I mean, there's a whole industry now. But it all is birthed out of curiosity. I just want you to say I'm telling you, I'm telling you curiosity matters. Not anyone. See you learn something new every after

asking questions. Yeah, that's all you're doing. You're at home. I wonder if I

wonder if Yeah, now, okay. Okay. So that's that's the optimistic side of things. But there is another aspect of self development that has to happen as creative entrepreneurs, that is not what you will consider. It's actually an optimistic thing, but it's not. Most people won't think of it in that way. Because you have to have resilience. Definitely. And I say that because resilience means that you're you're being dried or you're going through something, things may be tough, but you have this ability to continue to endure through it and do it in such an excellent and brilliant way. Ah, that it makes it seem like you're not enduring, right? So resilience, resilience, resilience matter. So you got something to talk about, you know,

a lot of times when we talk about resilience, I tell people what helps you keep going, right? I'm just having a strong why, like, why are you doing what you're doing? Right? And in order for you to have that, that that why that's like your fuel, right? And that resilience, because you're going to, you're going to want to quit. You're gonna want to quit. I don't know about you. Yeah. But we've been several times this year with this. What's going on? 24? Yeah, I've already been like, Okay, I'm done with this.

Okay, so here's, here's the thing, why are you going to want to quit, okay, if I got a vision and this intention is my passion is going so great is because you you're going to be taking risk. And sometimes when you take the risk, it doesn't always work out. Exactly. It's not it's not easy. And it doesn't work out. That risk didn't work out. But that doesn't mean the whole thing is over. But you can be like, Man, oh, I took a loss on that. And I don't want to take another loss. You may not take another loss, you may actually win on the next go round. But you got to stay in the game to find out. But that's where you'd be wanting to want to like, I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. That's

it. This is I tell people this is fulfilling work. But sometimes not easy. Yeah. Right. It's, it takes it takes hard work, right. It's hard work. I love it. I love it. But it's times was difficult. Man.

We talked about this in season one, the difficulty and the resilience that we require to even have this podcast. We're in season two. Season One was rough.

What were the statistics, they don't get past what episode six was it was episode after average podcast

does not get past six episodes. Yeah, that means after six episodes, they say I'm out. No resilience. Now again. I mean, it could just be like, listen, they can't depend on the circumstances that I live in their lives. They can't afford to take another ale or they can a setback or delay or, and it just frustrating. I'm already frustrated over here. I don't need to be frustrated over here. I need a business where I'm alive over here because I'm sad over here. And so some people for various reasons just can't push through. But you're gonna need to have resilience, right? We would not be here in studio live, we did not have resilience. That's 100%. of fact, I remember we were doing one episode and it's something about it keep kept messing up. It was either the audio or video or something. I want to say we recorded one episode. Take number three, we record it almost like a 45 minute

it was three to four times we record that episode. That was episode one. Now we

could have quit. Right? Right. So but we stay resilient on it. Just because we didn't want to we just didn't want to be statistics. That was listen, as long as we get past six, we can get that seven or eight. We did it. But now here we are in season three. Yeah. Alright. So we want to make this one a shorter podcast and we normally do. So we're kind of speeding through some of the some of the things that we feel like you need for self development, you got vision, intention, consistency, you have risk taking, taking curiosity, resilience, and then we're going to leave you with one more before we wrap it up.

Confidence like you, you, you, you gotta have confidence in this thing. You have to have confidence in your skills and ability. You have to have confidence in your product that what I'm providing to the community. This is good, right? You have to have that confidence. Because if you don't you once again, you're gonna bite somebody, you're gonna fail, you're gonna get tired, you're gonna know you got to know what to say. What's your chess lesson? I am Ronald Gregory Lee Jr. I am a creative business strategist. And I know my stuff, and I

get results. Results. Listen, and you got to you have that confidence. And if you do not have the confidence that's gonna come across when you're trying to go b2c, which is business to consumers, people can tell you're not confident. I mean, I may be able to do your wedding properly with my videography. I mean, you want me to do a painting? I may be able to get it done. I mean, we'll see what we can do. Now they want you to know Oh, yeah, for sure. Now out of it, what do you want? Oh, yeah, we got that makes people feel confident to go ahead and patronize with you is gonna is gonna bleed through when you're going business to business and you're trying to maybe partner with another brand or something like that. People are gonna be like, yeah, oh, no, the business is like, you're not really confident your brand and it's not in the shining, you know, and we can tell

when, when when I charge when I went out when I booked my prices, right? The first couple of times, I was a little hesitant. I wasn't as confident with that price a little bit this because I wasn't confident. It wasn't my confidence. I was talking to myself, but I was like, oh, that's that's a little bit much. And when I presented it, they was like, Okay, we'll get back to you and heard back from the west side develop that confidence. It was like no, this is what it is. So what it cost, right um, Once again they feed off that bed at night. Oh, that's what you do. Oh, cool. That's what it is. So that day that confidence is key.

It is. I had this one poem that I said when I very first started doing artistry professionally, I said, I ran for reason i ROM and this time because I was designed for this season, you gotta know that I literally, I write and do lyricism for a living. I write words, like this is what I've made, like a life off of speaking, and rapping, and writing and all that kind of stuff. And so I ran for reason i ROM in his time, because I was designed for this season, there's something about me is is important, and it's imperative for right now. And I have to know that you have to know that what we're doing right now is with our business with our creative enterprise is necessary, man, people need this. I feel confident about the money my greatest pocket. That's reason why we didn't quit because I know that there are somebody who needs to hear from another six, seven or eight figure business on their own, the strategies that they're employed, they need to know what the structure is they need to know about self development, because that's gonna help unlock them.