Episode Summary: This episode is a segment of a past episode in which Deborah Drummond, co-creator of ‘They Did It Tour’, shares with our hosts the joy and the many benefits of working while walking.

Deborah does most of her work while being active, whether walking, hiking or swimming. This practice is a great way to exercise, save money and time, and be more productive.

In this segment, Deborah shares some practical tips on inviting her business partners, staff or clients to join in her walks. 

From beautiful Vancouver in Canada, Deborah Drummond is an Ultrapreneur⭐️#1 Int'l Best Selling Author/Speaker/Anti Aging Expert/Media Mastermind/Ayurveda/Mom and co-creator of ‘They Did It Tour’, 2 women rocking and walking 8 marathons in Ireland to raise funds for the music industry.

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Deborah.

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So we are excited to have you on, uh, the

carbon sessions today, , because we like

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to have conversations with people, uh,

around the world, about things that we can

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do to help reduce the carbon footprint.

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And one of the things

you and I were talking.

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was, , working while walking, and I wonder

if you wanna talk about that a little bit.

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So instead of driving, instead of

maybe even going to a restaurant,

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just actually just getting together

and walking that meeting, whether

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it's by earbuds or together.

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So yes, we're exercising, we're doing

great stuff, but we're not, it doesn't

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take anything extra to, to do that.

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And literally, that's how I

do as many of my meetings as.

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It's just walk.

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I call it a walk and talk.

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It's just this walk and talk.

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And do you walk outside in our

beautiful Vancouver rain, are we walking

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inside on a treadmill or what are you

doing ? So yes, I do live in Vancouver.

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I do live in the rainy city of Vancouver.

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And every time you see

it, it's got a range up.

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But you know what?

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As a Vancouver rate, like literally

born here, the rain doesn't bother.

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. Um, and we do walk in the rain cuz

if you don't do something in the

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rain, you're staying a lot inside.

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But I also , I have the fortunate,

I live downtown and I, you know,

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live in a con condominium that

does have also exercise facility.

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And so I, you know, I'm doing a big walk,

like I'm walking across Ireland, so I'm

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now in that gym, uh, three days a week.

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And I actually go with friends

and we actually do treadmill

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and we do exercise together.

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And then we all, I also do.

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So we have a pool and I, we, we

literally will swim and have meetings

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and we'll talk a little bit, then

we'll do a lap, and then we'll

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talk a little bit and we do a lap.

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So just try to mix, mix

those two things together.

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Happens quite a lot.

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But yes, rain is not a deterrent here.

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. That's great.

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Um, Debra, this is Brian.

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So nice to meet you, uh, and

excited to be here with you.

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I'm, I'm curious, so I do, I, I'm

a big fan of the walk and talk.

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I was excited to join today's

session and, and hear about you

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and this pattern you've been.

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I've got some clients and colleagues

that it's normal practice.

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Like they know what it's about

and they're like, oh yeah,

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like I stand up for my desk.

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I'm like, let's walk and talk.

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Right?

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And they like get into it.

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And some clients will even do hike

and talks and we'll like, yeah, our

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planned meeting is we go once a quarter

and we go hike this hike together.

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So for some people in my life,

that expectation is sort of hard.

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I don't know how it got

built in the first place.

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, how do you, how do you broach that with

someone that you're just getting to know?

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Meetings are often, you're getting

to know someone in the first, on

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the front side of a relationship.

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Do you bring this up early in the

relationship and the conversation?

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Yeah.

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And how do you tips on setting

that kind of expectation?

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I think because, um, I come from

an entrepreneurial background

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and so do most of my clients

and colleagues that I'm talking.

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and, um, particularly with

the fact that not a lot of us

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have gotten together lately.

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Um, so depending on who I'm

talking to, one, I can go at

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it from an economic standpoint.

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It's like, Hey, you know, let's not

go and, you know, have lunch again.

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I'm sure you have lots

of lunches with people.

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I'm sure.

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Lunch again.

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And, um, why don't we layer, and

people really love that word layering.

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I mean, because you know, if you're,

if you're, I don't say the word B

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and ends with Y and there's an S

in the middle, it's not something.

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Our team doesn't allow each other to say.

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So, you know, in my very abundant,

passionate, fulfilling life, , that leaves

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little room in my schedule, I'll come at

it from like, You know, let's, let's not

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spend 50 bucks on lunch today and let's

just go exercise and let's just talk.

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Let's just talk what

we need to talk about.

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At the same time, some people are like,

yeah, why am I going to sitting in my

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house driving and sitting in a restaurant?

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So I'll kind of come from an

exercise standpoint or from a.

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, you know, let's save

some money standpoint.

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Or the other thing is I'm not getting

enough time to go out there and exercise.

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I'm finding that I'm sitting at

my desk all the time, you know,

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you don't live that far from me.

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I think it would be really easy.

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Or look, why don't we

just go and walk and talk?

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And they're like, it's, it's con,

it's like a new concept, right?

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They're also trying to

find time to exercise.

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They're also trying to

find time to get out.

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But no one's just really approached

him with the idea, or especially

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when I go, I've got a hot.

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I've got a hot tub, I've

got a pool in a hot tub.

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When's the last time

that you went swimming?

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And they're like, I don't

know, like 20 years ago.

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And I'm like, well, why don't

we just do our meeting there?

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It's super fun.

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And they might think it's a little

obscure, but when I'm like, well,

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when's the last time you exercised?

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And look, it's super cool and you

know, we can just come to the house

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after and have a drink or something.

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But, you know, not a martini,

but it just, it's just different.

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And people are thinking, I

think they're trying to find

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creative ways to get together.

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And I also think that they're

trying to find ways to save money.

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Most people will go exercise if they're

looking at the walk is exercise.

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If they make a commitment

to go with somebody.

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And so I'll go, oh my gosh.

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Great.

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A lot of people also know that I'm

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and I'm like, look, I've gotta get

in as much exercise as possible.

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I had a friend, for example,

last Saturday, you know, and

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he's like, Hey, let's hang out.

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I'm like, well, unless you're prepared

to walk, I'm not really into hanging

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out right now cause I have to use

all my time to trade for this event.

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Super important to me.

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He's like, okay.

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And literally he was like,

As we were walking, I'm like,

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come on, you can do this.

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And he's like, I gotta go.

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He had to go shopping.

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And I'm like, okay, let's walk

downtown, get your things and walk back.

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And we came back.

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He, I'm like, good, right?

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He's like, yeah, that's fun, . You

may never call me again.

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But um, so I just injected in a way

that it's good for us, it's gonna save

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money and one of those two things work.

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That's awesome.

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Do you, do you have clients or colleagues

that are sometimes come back to and.

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They've taken this and carried it

forward and they're instigating it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So the guy that I was just talking

about, I mean, I've been, we've

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been friends for a long time and um,

so he now is doing the same thing.

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He likes to hike.

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He doesn't like to huff

and walk long distance.

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He likes to, to hike.

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But I think that a lot of people

are, are finding that because, It is

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really just doing something that we

probably all did during the time that

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we couldn't be so close to each other.

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Um, you know, depending where you are.

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Some places I was, we were pretty

locked down here, and so people

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would walk and talk, right?

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Because anytime you had a chance to

get out and walk, so people were doing

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it with their earbuds in, um, and so

why not do it with somebody, right?

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Because I think it also helps in

terms of that, you know, we're trying

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to recover from being lonely for a.

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