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⁠Embracing Video, Facing Fears, and Building Consistency
Episode 515th June 2025 • The One Small Change Podcast • Yvonne McCoy
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In this episode of The One Small Change Podcast, host Yvonne McCoy sits down with Nina Froriep, a dynamic entrepreneur who pivoted from a decades-long career in filmmaking to become a digital LinkedIn video coach for service-based business owners. The conversation explores her journey toward location independence, the value of authenticity on video, and the courage required to embrace change—no matter your age or stage in life. Packed with practical tips for overcoming video fears, building a personal online presence, and leveraging small shifts for major transformations, this episode is a must-listen for anyone craving more fulfillment and freedom in their work.

Guest Bio:

Nina Froriep is an accomplished filmmaker turned online video and LinkedIn coach. After years working globally on film and video productions, she now empowers service-based entrepreneurs to step confidently in front of the camera, harnessing video and live content to authentically showcase their expertise. Passionate about storytelling, reinvention, and helping others grow, she is dedicated to teaching professionals how small shifts—like deciding to work remotely—can create entirely new paths in both business and life.

Chapters:

00:00 "Embracing Life's Relativity"

03:36 Reinventing for Location Independence

07:32 "The Queen Agers Movement"

10:44 Authentic Connection Over Appearance

14:48 Authenticity in Professional Settings

19:13 Embracing My On-Camera Self

22:25 Experiment and Learn from Mistakes

25:34 LinkedIn Engagement Strategy Tips

27:23 "Small Change, Big Transformation"

29:54 "Change: Simple, Not Easy"

Quote from Guest:

“What matters is that what we say and what comes out of our mouth is helpful to those people who we want to attract into our ecosystem, our orbit, into our businesses.”

Links:

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For more information, please visit: https://clockwiseproductions.com/ 

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Oh, everybody. Welcome to the one small change. I

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am so thrilled that you are sharing this journey of exploration

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and transformation with me. And I'm your host, Yvonne McCoy,

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and I bring almost thirty years of entrepreneurial experience and a

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passion for discovering growth through the power of seemingly

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small change. And you are gonna be so happy this week

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because joining us for this journey,

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we're gonna be talking with Nina Farib. And she's gonna share

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how a smaller unexpected decision sparked a remarkable

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transformation either in her personal or her professional

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or both. So, Nina Hi. You and I

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have already been yacking it up. Yes. So we're

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wound up and ready to go. Yep. Definitely. I am I am so

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happy that you took time out of your busy schedule to do this with me.

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Thank you so much. Of course. I you know, and

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I've actually followed you for a long time, never actually spoken to you personally.

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So this is a particular joy for me.

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So tell us a little bit about yourself, and what is the change that

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you wanna share, and what kind of impact did it have?

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So I'm I'm a filmmaker turned

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online digital LinkedIn coach. I focus on

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video and lives because, obviously, there's sort of that history that

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comes with me, from being a film producer.

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And, so to nowadays, I help small business

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owners mostly or actually exclusively,

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entrepreneur, service based entrepreneurs. Because as service based

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entrepreneurs, we are the face of the company. We are

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who shows up on our social media platforms,

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to sell our brilliance, our programs, our offerings.

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So that's sort of the the niche that I, have created for

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myself as as a digital content creator and,

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and, coach. Oh, sorry

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about that. I forgot to turn

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off because you know this is live because I'm, you know, I'm I'm

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screwing stuff up. Oh, you

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mean the timer? Yep. Yeah. Yeah. So,

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anyhow, not to be distracted from the good stuff that we're doing.

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Yes. And so what was it that you know,

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obviously, your background led you to do what you were doing, but there's gotta be

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a reason another reason that you do it so well, that something happened

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that that was a turning point? Or I mean, there you

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know, you don't get my age without, like, several turning points. So,

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I think their most recent turning point was or really big

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turning point or, well, you want small ones or big ones?

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Whichever one you wanna share. I think relative, isn't

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it? It's all relative. Of course, it is. And and big big is always yeah.

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In in in, globally speaking, everything is relevant,

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relative. So, I mean, you know, the the I think what

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really happens, and I think it's also an age thing, where at some point

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in my life, I just realized that you can either

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keep doing what you're doing because you've been doing it for so

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long and it feels comfortable and you know what it

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is. And, it might, you

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know, string you along until you retire. Although,

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as entrepreneurs, we never retire, really. We just, you know, clock

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out and die, I guess.

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But, or we reinvent ourselves. And I

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was at that point, where I was like, I'm too

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young. I'm, you know, too I I was old enough to start thinking about retirement,

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but too young to retire. So I'm like, okay. Do I

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hobble along and become the old geezer in the corner somewhere at some point,

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or do I reinvent myself and make make that change?

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Right? And so I decided in good Nina fashion to

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make the change. And I think the one small thing

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that led to all the massive change that came with it

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was my desire to be location independent.

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I've been a whole career glued

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to a desk somewhere in a office

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of a client, even with my own company

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because we were shooting all over the world, all over,

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you know, America, and I needed to be on set. I

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needed to be in the edit suite with the editors. I needed to be

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with the clients. So, it it was

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fantastic traveling the world, and I loved it. But then there comes a point where

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you don't wanna do that anymore. And I saw the Internet, and I saw the

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explosion of all things, that were now possible

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with you know, this was before we even did Zoom calls, but just that there

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was everything was now possible remote. And so the desire to

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be location independent was really strong, also with family in

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Europe, me in New York. So I'm like, okay. This is

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gonna be my lighting guide, my guiding light.

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I do need that drink really soon, Yvonne. We were talking about

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drinks earlier. And and it really was

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that small shift that and the desire that then

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really basically turned my company around, I mean,

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a full three sixty, because I just wanted to be location

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independent. And I am location independent now, and I run a completely

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different business, but I still I still work with film and video. Right? Or, I

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mean, film Mhmm. Said that but as a me as a as a storytelling

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tool. Yeah. Well, you know what's interesting about what you said and,

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you know, one of the things that when when I do my workshop that I

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bring out is, you know, I read a book about it was

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called the women's road

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to fulfillment or something like that. And it and it basically you know, you have

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childhood, and then she said motherhood. After motherhood,

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we most women, unless something happens to them physically

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or some traumatic thing happens, we all kinda go,

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is this all there is? Right. You know, I thought there would be more.

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I thought I would do more. Yep. Right? And so we

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all, I think, go through that. So what you went through is a very

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normal thing. And as you said, some people say, well, maybe I'll just stick

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it out. Right? And I had kind of

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not exactly a similar thing, but I had a situation where when

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COVID came, that was kind of my thing. Like, I was

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working with non you know, executive directors of nonprofits. Mhmm.

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And, you know, when they when COVID came, they shut

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down. I mean, they had no funding for their staff, so they had no funding

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for me. And I was like, okay.

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It was like watching the sinking of the Titanic. It was quite traumatic.

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And I was like, okay. Am I gonna build this

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again? Yeah. And if I do, what's

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gonna be different? Right. Right? And it was like, I wanna build a

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business that I really like doing what I like

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to do that I can do for whatever period of

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time I wanna do it. Yep. So, yeah, I absolutely relate to that. And

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I would say to people, it's never too early to look at

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that. Right? I think most of us use

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outside influences to make that happen where we don't

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say, okay. What is it that I want? And I think as women

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and and since you're talking about this, there's this whole movement out of Britain called

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the Queen Agers, and, that sort of women,

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it's also it's not just an age thing. It's generational thing. You

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know, women who are now 50 and up, sort

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of being at that point, as you said earlier, where kids are out of the

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house, a lot a lot of them lost their

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corporate jobs during the pandemic. Right? And and are,

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like, at a point where, like, we still are full of energy. We still have

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many years of being super productive very often, and I see that with a lot

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of my girlfriends. These women are the the main

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breadwinners and financial decision makers in the household.

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And it's like, where do I go with all this energy? What do I do

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with myself? I'm only 50. I'm 55, whatever. I still wanna

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have that really strong encore, yeah, before I'm a corpse.

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Right? So I think that there is this whole generation

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of of women who did the dutiful thing,

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taking care of the husbands and children and the the bosses and the clients and

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the team and all that. And now is at that time where it's like,

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yay. You know, we can we can make changes, and we can actually

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we're we're holding the purse strings, so why aren't we aren't we calling the

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shots. Right? And and I think the other thing is because

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I think I'm older than you are. Yep.

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Is our parents are living longer. Yeah. Do

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you know? So, you know, my parents live to be 94.

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And I think I think there's in our brain, there's, like, we we we think

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that there's gonna be a period of time when we won't have to take care

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of parents, we won't have to take care of kids, and we can really focus

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on ourselves. And that's getting pushed back further and

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further and further. So if you don't make the decision to make

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that space for yourself Mhmm. You're gonna be really

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old. Yeah. Very true. Very true. Happens. And, you

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know, I I I'm glad my parents lived that long, but I

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I coulda used a few extra years on my

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own. Do you know? Yeah. So yeah. So,

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if you were to talk to entrepreneurs today, what would be what would be some

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of the lessons and some of the things that you think that they could

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do? So there there are two parts of this. Okay. You can pick

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either part. So there there are the life lessons that

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you've seem to have a wonderful handle on, but there's

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also the video. So for those of us that maybe are in their

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fifties, sixties, or seventies and have not really done

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video were not brought up I mean, I remember when I took my first

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coaching course, it was by telephone. Wow.

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Yeah. Me too. Yep. Yep. Do you know? I had to buy myself a little

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one of what they call the executive toys to play

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with because I'm a visual person. So the phone did absolutely nothing

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for me. Oh, I'm a good doodler. Yeah. For that reason. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. So let's talk about video.

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Yep. Showing on

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video at when you're not spring chicken anymore. Yes. That's

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right. Absolutely. Absolutely. Been there, done

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that, and I know you have as well. So, I mean, the I think

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the biggest the biggest thing to just keep

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reminding yourself of is, you know, this is not

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media in the sense of we're a skinny little model, you

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know, that is anorexic and as you know, lives on

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on champagne and cigarettes. We are real people. We

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are, you know, we're shooting these videos to connect

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with our clients and with our audience. They wanna hear what

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we have to say. They could not care less

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what we look like, whether we're skinny or not, whether we're beautiful

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or not, and beautiful is in the eye of the boulder anyway. And if we

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are, you know, whatever, have a big nose and have a small nose, it does

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not matter. What matters is that what we say and what comes out of our

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mouth is helpful to those people who we want to attract

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into our, into our ecosystem, our orbit, into our

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businesses. So it really is about having

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that clarity of message and and making sure that we

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give value to the people that we want to have listened to

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us. And then it doesn't really matter,

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what we look like. I mean, I always say show up professional, show up the

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way you would show up to a client meeting in

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person or on Zoom. And the rest is

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just you being you and, hopefully, attracting the right kind of

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people because you are being you. Because you don't want,

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like, a a bad date experience, right, where, the person shows up and they're,

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like, not who they were in the dating profile at all. You don't

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want that happening with your clients either because that's just icky. Right?

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People people buy from people. People want to

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preexperience you, and that's where video is

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fantastic because it not only shows people who you

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are, it also is sort of like a a self selection tool.

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Mhmm. If you don't like my nose, you don't like my voice, you

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don't like my mannerisms, you're never gonna sign up for a call with me.

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You know, you don't waste my time. You don't waste your time. It's perfect.

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So I I love and if you do like me, it sort

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of builds that trust. Because psychologically, when somebody sees you for

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the second or the third or the fourth time on video and then eventually on

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Zoom, we now have created, sort

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of a, like a, yeah, trust and and and

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familiarity where we're like, oh, we know Nina. And then when we get on a

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Zoom call with her and she looks and sounds the way she does on her

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videos, there's this immediate, like, wow. I like her. Oh, wow. This

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is I trust her too. Tell me the truth or whatever what it

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is. Right? Well, you know, the the experience that I had like that was

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I had one of my clients be my wingman on a workshop I was

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doing. Mhmm. And I had, you know,

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fiddled with this thing, and I had it timed out, and I, you know, I

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had the slides and, you know, the whole thing. And when we got off

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afterwards, she said, I don't know how to tell you this,

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but the person that presented that workshop is not the coach

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I love working with. Oh.

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And I was like, oh, that's interesting.

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Do you know? And and so now I you know, it's like,

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the way I am is the way that I am. Right? You gotta you

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gotta have to because you don't wanna have people have a bad experience. Right?

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Yeah. Well, it you know, it's like you go through the you know, you go

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through this thing and, you know, you're all polished. And then the next time they

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see you, you're not polished and you're in different way. It's like, well, who is

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this person? Yeah. Right? And so, you know, what I say to people

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is, you know, the best the best thing to

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do is be the way that you don't mind being every day. Yeah. If you

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don't wanna wear makeup every single day and you're gonna be on Zoom calls,

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then don't wear makeup. You know? If you don't mind wearing

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makeup, wear makeup. Do you know? If you like to wear

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jewelry, wear jewelry. I mean, be the way you like to be, and you can

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do it on a regular basis, and it's not like, do you

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know? Yeah. And and it's it's not even the way it it I

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mean, it's I always say, like, it's too hard to be someone else or to

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be someone you're not all the time. Right? It's just it takes too much

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energy up. So yes, sure. If I'm going on a on a call with

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you, I will bother with some eye makeup, which you can't see anyway because I'm

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wearing freaking glasses. But, you know, I I'll I'll make an effort

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to look a little nicer than I just would if I just wore a T

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shirt and and makeup. But I'm still

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I'm still within the framework of how I will show up for a professional meeting

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with a client. Right? Right. Right. And so I think the other

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thing that people do not realize

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is there are certain things that you may not think are

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important that draw people to you. So for instance, we were talking about

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dogs. Right. You know, that's one of the things I mean, one of the things

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that I talk about and I weave into my post and my, you know, things

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that I do is, you know, obviously, it's the business.

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Right? And then the other things that I talk about is I talk about

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my dog, who I just took down the shore for the first

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time. I talk about my weight because, you

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know, that was a real big barrier for me

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to speaking because at one point, I weighed four hundred and forty pounds.

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Mhmm. I've lost over a hundred and fifth I lost almost 200. I kept off

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a 50 of it. Yeah. And video,

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you know, being on Zoom, you only do, you know, from the neck up, so

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you can kinda hide a little bit. But but, you know, even the other

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day, I was doing a post that said, you need to be yourself. And I

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was looking for an image, and I'm like, this doesn't make any sense. I'm telling

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people to be themselves, and I'm not putting my picture up there. Yeah.

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And so, you know, did that. Right? I

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talk about my family, and I talk about humor. And so, you know,

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typically, you're gonna find me cracking some, you know,

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weird kinda comment because I have a weird sense of humor. And if you

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don't like that, then you're probably not my client. Exactly. Same same here.

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I mean, if you can't get my Swiss sense of humor, then you're

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probably gonna be lost with me. You know, if you are a big drama and

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want lots of hand holding, please don't sign up for me. I mean, I'm just

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I have no patience for it. So, yeah, I think I think you're just doing

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yourself and your future clients. And and I love what you

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just were saying, with the topics that you choose to share.

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I I was like, when my clients are sort of nervous about the, you know,

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TMI, am I sharing too much or whatever, I'm like, in the

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beginning, you know, putting your big toe in the water, just

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just choose three, four, five topics that you talk about. Like, same

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with me. Got a dog. I talk about, you know,

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traveling forth and back between Switzerland and New York. And I just have my couple

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of topics that I stick to, and every once in a while, something else comes

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in sideways. But it it gives people the sense that they

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know me without needing to know everything about me.

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But the one who cares. Right? So, and and and it

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also keeps you sort of from getting lost in the TMI minefield

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of of, information that doesn't need to be shared. So

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so if someone has not used video very

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much, what would you

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what so we were kinda talking about, you know, you know, that kind

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of stuff. So you can, you know, give us a couple of tips so our

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videos are better and maybe how to get our toe in the water.

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Yeah. I mean, look. If you're nervous about being on video,

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do what we're doing. We're we're in video right now. Right? We're we're just having

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a conversation. Every time you're on a call with a client on

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Zoom, that is a video. So have invite a friend

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or a coach. Give them a a series of questions to ask you,

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and you just they ask you the question, you answer the questions. That can be

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a video. Right? So, put yourself in a

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situation where you know you're gonna be feeling comfortable and you

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know you're gonna get there. And then, I mean, if you wanna do

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videos where, like, short little snippet videos that are perfect for,

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social media, LinkedIn in particular, which is our our sort of area

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of expertise, you know, then then you just practice. And you practice

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the first ten videos, never see the day of light. And then maybe by eleven,

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twelve, you start getting used to seeing yourself, getting used to hearing

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yourself. I remember when when I started creating my own

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videos, and believe me, it was not pretty, although I was a producer. But I,

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you know, I didn't have a crew. I didn't have a budget. It was just

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me and my phone. Back then, actually, I I

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had a a a whole camera set up, which was never really

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helpful other than driving me crazy.

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And, you know, once you once you are used to seeing yourself

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and hearing yourself, that moment comes where you'd start

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disassociating yourself. And I remember I was editing a

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video of me. I've been doing video maybe for two or three months,

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and I was still fairly uneasy about it. And I was laughing

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at myself cracking a joke in the video, and that was the moment that was,

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like, one of those small moments, right, where I was like, boom. I now have

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learned to see myself as Nina, the person who

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represents clockwise and no longer icky 50 year old

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Nina who could be a lot younger and should have done this earlier in her

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career. And and that was really a big shift for me where I was like,

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okay. I can now edit myself without squir squirming.

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Well, you know, it's really good to hear you as a professional say

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that. Yeah. I mean, it was it was nasty. The first couple of videos

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were terrible, terrible, terrible, and no one liked them.

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And it it took me a good while until I found my

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rhythm and figured out that, you know, equipment be damned. It's

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never about the equipment. You know, you just you're you and your phone and a

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window is all you need. Right? Well, this

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this is what I wanna I always say to people. Do it before you're

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ready because nobody will see it because nobody knows you.

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Right? Yeah. And then and then there's that. Right? We're not it's not

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like we we have this idea that a million people it's not CBS. Right?

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We are we are on LinkedIn by ourselves most very

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often. And, yes, my first couple of videos on LinkedIn, if you

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were to scroll all the way back are probably pretty awful. Well

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and here's the thing that's really funny. I had a

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client that absolutely would not do a video. And I said to her,

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just make something on Zoom, put it on LinkedIn, you know,

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just to see. Just so you know what the you know, we were just going

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through the steps of how to do it. Right? So we have our our

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client call, and she goes, this is awful. I don't wanna do this. I don't

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you know, I wanna take it down immediately. And I was like, you can do

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that. That's not a problem. And it stayed up for about five

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minutes. And within that five she said,

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oh my god. Five people looked at this, and I actually had somebody who

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wants to connect for a job. There you go. Yep. So,

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you know, you don't know. You don't know. And yeah.

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That that's a great example. I love that. Yeah. And it you know, and

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I said to her, see, if you had taken that down in one minute, you

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would have missed a great opportunity. So the people who are ready

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for you now Mhmm. Will, you know,

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be drawn to the video that you do now. Yeah. Okay.

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They may not be your ideal client five years from now or even, you know,

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six months from now, but they are attracted to the way you are

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now, and you will be a great service to them. And you

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denying them this opportunity is a terrible thing to do.

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Exactly. So, yes. So

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get started yesterday. Yep.

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Play around with it. Make your mistakes early on is what I

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what I tell people.

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Dress the way you feel comfortable and can do on a

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regular basis, which does not mean that you can't

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get better. You know? Like, for instance, I know when I first started

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doing videos, I was wear wearing certain colors

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that, you know, if I looked at like, if I wore one color, I felt

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like I really looked good. If I wore another color, I you know? And so

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that is like, oh, okay. I can Yeah. I can make that

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change. That's not a big deal. I've got tops in a lot of different colors.

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You know? And and, you know, just

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can people hear you? You know, that kind of stuff that, You

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know? You don't wanna put all the energy into it and people can't hear

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you, you know, and and get you Video is actually more important than

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video. Yeah.

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So so I think the other thing is

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that when we talk about connecting, there's so much

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that you get from a video. You get the visual. Mhmm. You get the

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audio. You get the body movement. I mean, there are lots of ways

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that people can can, you know, kinda learn to trust

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you versus when you write something. Oh, I mean,

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there's absolutely no comparison. Right? I mean, writing, we've

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we lose the inflection. We use the humor. We lose

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everything. Right? And that's why I think emojis are actually very helpful.

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But, when you're speaking and and and

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hearing, hearing, and seeing, it's just also believing,

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right, and and and building that trust, which is so important. Well,

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it's funny because, I tend I I I'd say that

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I'm a speaker, and I write the way I speak. And I

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had somebody helping me with my marketing, and she was like, I don't know how

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to edit your stuff because it is just it is just, like, all over the

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place. It is, like, bizarre. It is and I'm like, but that's

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who I am. Yeah. That's that's the way I talk.

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So tell us before we run out of time, tell us about the

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freebie that you've got for us, and then, you know, we'll go

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from there for for the amount of time that we have left. Of course. Yeah.

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So we have the, an infographic, which is called

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the five steps to a perfect LinkedIn post.

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And it's a really lovely, one pager, infographic,

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which sort of shows you the anatomy of a LinkedIn

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post, what kind of media, you know,

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different media ideas, and and what to look out for at each of these

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steps to make sure that you're posting such that people actually,

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engage with you with your posts on LinkedIn. I had a

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marvelous thing that happened, and this will show you how

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unsophisticated I am when it comes to social media.

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I got a thing. It said, you had 350

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people notice your your post this week Mhmm. Which

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is the highest I've ever had Okay. And have no idea what

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to do with it. I don't know what it I don't I don't

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have a follow-up on what to do with it. No. I mean, what you really

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wanna do is just make sure that when you post that you go and

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see and this is why I have written the five steps

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because you need to have a call to action so people will

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engage with you. So every post that you put out, I look at who's

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liked it and who's commented, and you want to connect with the

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people that you don't know yet who've been liking and who's

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been commenting because that is how you grow your

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people organically on LinkedIn. So make

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sure that, you know, the people you don't know, the people especially who are second

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connections to you, that you write them a little note in the

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direct messages saying thank you so much for commenting on my post about topic x

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y z so they know you're not a bot. And, you know, what what

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was the most interesting thing about it? Or, you know, but whatever. Just ask them

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a further question to continue the conversation. That

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that is a great piece of advice. If you get nothing add else out of

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this, but there was a lot of gems in here. That

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is something that you can start doing tomorrow. Yep. You don't have to

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buy any equipment. You don't have to do anything else. You just have to look

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at what you've already posted. So that's fantastic. Okay.

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So I'm gonna ask you I'm gonna ask you my magic question,

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which is when was the last time you did something new for the first time?

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So I just signed up with the Art Student League of New York for

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drawing classes, And it's

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been a real challenge because the class is really

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advanced. And I am

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painting my little fingers into the ground or drawing my little fingers

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in homework. So,

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I just started this month, and, I'm looking forward to continuing because it's

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it's a real challenge, and it's a lot of fun. And and I think that's

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what keeps us young and relevant. Yeah. Taking on new challenges

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and that kind of stuff. So just in terms of the commercial part of

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this, I hope

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everybody will subscribe and share this and be engaged with

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this on social media, especially share because

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Nina is a wealth of information. And the reason

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that I did this was I wanted people to have a chance

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to to meet people that they normally maybe didn't meet and to

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see that in order to grow, you don't have to have some huge thing

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happen. You can have huge growth from a small change.

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So I hope you'll continue to join me on the one small change. I

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hope that it will help you with transformation. And if you haven't

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listened to my first episode that explains why I'm doing this, and I also

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because I like to talk, I've also decided that I'm doing four episodes a year

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that I just get to talk, and it's gonna be and it's called the clarity

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it's called the clarity check-in. So the first one of those is,

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what last words what what what words of wisdom can you give

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us as we as we move on to the rest of our day?

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Not the sexiest thing in the world, but, everything that

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you do in your business, and I I would venture to guess in your life,

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is it's all about consistency.

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Oh. No. No. Quickly say it's

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not sexy, but it it is just posting on on on, you

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know, posting on LinkedIn, engaging with people,

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consistency, consistency, consistency just pays off in

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major dividends. It absolutely does. And the reason I

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went, was because I did a thing that said,

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consistency is, you know, it's simple, but it's not sexy.

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And the next day or two, so I saw somebody else's post that

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said, consistency is the sexiest thing ever.

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It's the same thing just said differently. Right? Right. Yeah. So It's it's

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the half half the glass half full versus the half glass

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the glass of, empty version, yeah, of the

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yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got it. So so, I

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I think that that is wonderful, and I have to add this one little tidbit.

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Consistency for an entrepreneur, which is hard to do because

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we we tend to be squirrels, and you get a client and you stop doing

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the thing that got you the client. Consistency will keep you out

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of that feast and famine. Yep. Do you know? And that is

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so important. So on that, I I I will stop there before I go off

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into another thing. So, Nina, I wanna say thank you so much.

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And and my last words as always is remember that change is simple,

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but it isn't always easy. Yep. And that it requires resilience

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and courage and a willingness to step outside your comfort zone.

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And so I hope that you guys will continue to join me

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with my fabulous guests that I've been having. And until next

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time, stay curious.

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