We're back in Westeros to talk about the adventures of Dunk and Egg. Andrea and Paul dive into a quieter Westeros as they cover HBO series A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms.

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Welcome back to kinfolklore.

Today we are continuing our journey through a Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, covering episodes two and three, Hard Salt Beef and the Squire.

These episodes move us fully into the tourney at Ashford Meadow and begin to raise the emotional and political stakes of Dunk and Egg's story.

Paul.

I'm Andrea.

And I'm Paul.

If episode one was about arriving at the edge of power, episodes two and three are about realizing how tightly that power is guarded.

This is where the romance of knighthood starts to wear thin and the cost of honor becomes impossible to ignore.

As a reminder, we will not be spoiling the Dunkin Egg novellas because that would spoil the show.

However, when relevant, we will bring in details from the broader Song of Ice and Fire television universe and books, including Game of Thrones and seasons 1 of 2 of House of the Dragon.

We will have a spoiler section at the end of this podcast for those of you who like spoilers.

And King folklore will have adult content.

And King Folklore with adult content is a matter of honor.

So if you're here for content about a very well endowed old knight.

Too well endowed.

Too well endowed.

Unfortunate girl making the most of her natural gifts, while the fuckboys of the realm celebrate her through song, but could not be bothered to use her real name, then hold on to your peaceable nature like Ser Arion Pennytree, who is.

Who has his not so hard beef.

Salt beef.

And let's go justice.

Justice for the artist currently known as Alice.

Please.

I have nothing to say.

I'm speechless.

Oh, my God.

When I saw that that was the name of the episode, I was like, okay, this is gonna be a hard salt beef joke.

There's no question.

There's no question about it.

All right, so let's talk about what happened in these episodes.

Episode two, Hard Salt Beef.

In episode two, this story really focuses on Dunk and Egg settling into their life at Ashward Meadow as the Targaryen family arrives.

Always a good time when the targs show up.

Yeah, on horses.

Now they're not rolling in on dragons no more.

They've been humbled.

Maegor is looking up from hell.

Like, how far we have fallen.

How far we have fallen.

Exactly.

So they walk around the tourney grounds and the two attend a puppet show led by Tansel Tanzel Too Tall.

Where later, Dunk awkwardly asks her to paint a new sigil for him.

The game is in desperate need of help.

We'll get there, but wow, it's very awkward.

It's a struggle.

Very awkward.

Throughout the Episode Dunk spends most of his time trying to find someone, anyone, who remembers Ser Arlan of Pennytree and will vouch for him as a legitimate knight.

He approaches lord after lord, and everybody is like, nah, doesn't ring a bell.

Prince Aerion Targaryen rolls up looking.

Just peacocking, just looking real extra.

Yeah.

Like, what are we doing?

Why are you rolling up like you're the king?

He's like, seventh or eighth in line.

You are the son.

He is the third son of the fourth son.

I know knighthood had.

Knighthood has fallen on really hard times.

Yeah.

You, sir.

You.

Yes.

So he's ordering Dunk around, mocking him.

It's just.

It's really.

He's not a nice guy.

Eventually, Dunk gains an audience with Aryan's uncle Peter, Prince Baelor, who is also Hand of the King and has many titles, titles, titles.

And also his brother Maekr, which is still my favorite part of that episode.

Giving me fucking, like, Daemon Targaryen vibes to show that Daemon's jeans have traveled.

Have they made it all the way down?

He's up there like, yes, yes, yes, sir.

We know you're grateful.

Now be gone.

Get out of here.

He's so funny.

But.

But him being humbled when they called, when they were calling out Prince Balor's arrival was the funniest thing I've ever.

I was like.

It tells me every.

It was like.

And his brother make or.

It was like, he's Jon Snow.

Oh, shit.

So basically, Prince Baelor remembers Ser Arlan and shows Dunk some, like, real consideration and kindness.

And, you know, his little brother treats Dunk dismissively because that's how he rolls, you know?

Dunk starts to think about what now that he.

He will be able to enter the list.

Oh, I didn't mention, and I should mention that Prince Baelor remembers Ser Arlan, which is kind of a big moment.

And so Dunk realizes that he'll be able to enter the list.

But then the first night of Joustin happens, and it's a lot.

It's a lot.

And he gets a little bit scared, but he is resolute.

The episode ends with Dunk resolving to prove Sir Arlan's worth through his own performance in the list.

Yeah, great stuff.

I mean, it's intimidating.

We'll get there.

But it's intimidating to see those.

Those folks, like, with all their shiny armor, you're just trying to, like, scratch your way in.

So we'll get to what that means.

But, you know, the next episode, the squire, the Episode also focuses on the daily life at the tourney.

I think this is going to be a running theme.

We're here for it.

Ed continues serving as Dunk Squire.

Training the horses.

Adorably training the horses.

Talking to the horse.

It was.

Oh, it was really adorable.

It was giving me like Geralt of Rivia again, like talking to the horse.

Like, it was great.

I loved it.

I absolutely loved it.

And Ciri, when Ciri talks to the horse and you know, he's completing the camp chores while Dunk prepares for the list.

And Dunk is offered a chance with all of this to fight Lord Ashford's youngest son in a fixed match for gambling profit.

Of course, he refuses.

At least that's how we read the scenes.

He is informed by Egg that as he is neither a knight of renowned or of high birth, he will not be allowed to joust on this day.

Pretty hilarious stuff from Egg.

Okay, so why didn't Egg say that to him last night?

Also, you got this man throwing up, feeling sick, nervous, thinking he could lose everything, including his life possibly.

And you didn't want to mention this little rule to him before, Smarty pants.

Also, why doesn't the bells go off here that this kid who like you found in a tavern knows that you have to be a knight of high renown and or high birth to be able to like get in the first day.

Nothing clicks here for Dunk.

Like, how do you know that?

Like, how the hell do you know that?

All you do is just stare.

It the same kid.

You mean who's in the background talking about killing the Blackfyrest?

Oh, yeah, right.

That's not suspicious.

Nothing's coming up and shouldn't even know.

Who the Blackfyres are.

And there's kids missing.

Like you don't think.

Anyway, Duncan's not the brightest tool in the shed.

Let's just call it what it is.

The squire episode also provides more historical context for the state of Westeros and the Targaryens.

The series is set more than 200 years into the Targaryen dynasty.

So this is gonna be decades after the civil war that we are seeing in House of the Dragon and still about 80 years before we hit Robert's Rebellion.

And so at this point in history, there's a lot of public resentment towards the Targaryens and it is openly visible at the Ashford tourney you're seeing.

We're gonna get into some of the comments that are made, but you know, there's.

And some of the things that happen.

But one of the things right away is that we see that the crowd boos Prince Arryon after he deliberately lances his opponent's horse.

He tries to say it was an accident.

Egg is not buying it.

I don't think the small folk are buying it.

And he cripples the riot.

I don't think his uncle bought it.

His uncle looked disgusted.

Of course not.

Nobody's buying Aryon's act.

Other characters make crude jokes about the Targaryens.

And a fortune teller tells Egg he will become king and die in a.

Fire, very matter of factly telling a small child that they're going to die.

Yo.

I would have been like, that's not anti Targaryen behavior.

I don't know what is.

Because she was like, oh, look at this little targ who just walked up to me.

Let me ruin your life.

Yeah, you're going to become king and you're going to die.

Why would she say that?

Why would she say that?

And the worm, she added flavor.

And the worms are going to eat.

It's a lie.

It's a child.

Oh, man, it's great.

I do want to say they borrowed a little something right there.

Like, I know that there's, like, a lot of, you know, fortune tellers and things like that throughout the lore, but the actual visual looks a lot like the Seer and Vikings.

Like, it looked.

I was like, holy crap.

Like, it was pretty interesting.

It was cool stuff to watch.

I was like, oh, okay.

I like how this show's pulling things from not like other influences from other shows.

You know, it's pretty cool.

So after the fortune teller tells all of this, we go to the nighttime where, you know, after seeing Prince Arryon assault Tanzel Too Tall, Dunk runs up in there, does what he has to do, punches Aryon, and is arrested by the Kingsguard as they're about to just, like, curb stomp my boy Duncan.

All right.

Duncan the Tall is about to lose all his fronts.

All his fronts coming out.

I was like, even though I knew that wasn't gonna what was gonna happen, I was still nervous.

I was like, I can't watch it.

Can't even watch.

I know.

It's crazy, especially when you see it.

I think everyone of our age has been ruined by American History X.

Like, they can't do it.

It's true.

So Egg stops them and stops Arian from removing all of Dunk's teeth by calling him brother.

The episode ends with Egg's declaration that he is actually Prince Aegon, son of Maekar, and The grandson of King Daarion ii.

Wow.

I mean, what a way to show up.

What happened to your hair?

I didn't want to look like you, brother.

These targs hate each other.

These targs hate each other.

Like, it's crazy.

They just.

Yeah, things go really well in the Targaryen family.

Aerion calling out Valar, who is third in second in line to the throne, trying to call him out.

You got Aegon literally wishing for his brother's death in the tourney.

Yeah, it was wild.

He was like, kill him.

Kill him, kill him.

I was like, damn, we've got a prophecy.

I mean, we just.

We're back.

You got all the targ things.

Warring siblings.

The only thing we're missing is real dragons, not puppet dragons.

And the dragons are still causing problems, as we'll get to.

Like, I can't.

I mean, like, goodness, even the puppet dragons are causing problems.

So let's start where we.

Let's start where we start.

There's a bunch of new characters that are introduced here.

So we have obviously, Prince Baelor, Prince Maekor, as we talked about in the summary, but we're also introduced to their sons, Valar, who we see joust on the first night of the joust.

It's Prince Baelor's eldest, as you just mentioned.

He's second in line to the throne.

And then, of course, piece of shit Aryan.

We're not going to.

We're not going to waste any time.

He's a lot.

He's terrible.

He's so terrible that when you search for the.

Because I've.

I did this today.

When you search for the various names of the Targaryens in this story, his appears the most.

And it's always people being like, yeah, that guy sucked.

You know, it's so wild, though.

Even as bad as he sucked so far, the threshold that he has to reach, which I'm sure he will reach to get to Joffrey.

Aegon ii.

Aon One Eye.

Like the level that you.

Oh, Aegon ii.

I'm thinking about the third.

I was like, no, no, Egon iii.

Easy on my Aegon iii.

But you.

You're talking about.

Yeah, he's trash.

The second.

Like.

Like.

I mean, like the.

The.

Where he has to go to reach that.

I mean, he's on his way.

Well, on his way.

Like stabbing a woman in, breaking her finger.

He's going to be another Maegor.

I miss Otto Hightower.

I can't wait till that show comes back.

It's so good.

And there's things I want to say, but I don't want to spoil House of the Dragon for anyone, but I have so much to say about these targs in respect to the relationship that they have to the targs.

We're watching House of the Dragon.

I will wait till the spoiler section.

Wait till the spoiler section.

So much to say.

All right, so we meet them and then the show is communicating quite a bit here.

I think it's showing a lot about Baelor Maekor.

It's a very short scene, but we really, as you said in the summary, we really get to see Baelor's ability as a Hand.

Who he is, is his kindness, how he has respect for people, the thought process that would lead to being a good king, if he ever was to become king, being the heir to the throne of, like, yeah, I remember all the people that I've battled because I need to know, like, who I'm going into battle with when I'm going to these tourneys in these games.

So he remembered Sir Arlan, not because he wasn't making it up.

And it felt very genuine.

You knew that he remembered him, had details and even gives shows.

What leads us to the Tanzel Too Tall stuff is that he even shows him, like, hey, you can't inherit.

You can't inherit, like, his sigil, so you have to make your own sigil.

But, like, even that process is really cool to see him, like, showing kindness, still staying within the law of the land, like, being.

Just being fair.

It was great.

Good stuff from him.

I really like Baelor so far.

Mm.

I think it's a really good contrast of the types of Targaryen characters that we tend to get in this series.

You get the types who actually care about, like, the responsibility, like Viserys.

Right.

Care about holding the kingdom together.

He remembered Ser Arlan.

Not just because they jousted and he, you know, he could have won against him, but he remembered him because he's not beneath his notice.

You know, you have his brother here acting like they shouldn't even be at this tournament.

Like, why are we even here?

Dad made us come.

This is.

We're in the middle of nowhere.

I don't even care.

Now, in fairness to Maekor, he's probably upset because his kids are missing.

That's upsetting.

Right?

But he doesn't even know how to be diplomatic.

And so I just think that you have the two types in these two brothers in this scene.

You have the two types of Targaryens.

We're kind of used to seeing the More I care about this.

This is an important responsibility.

I have a. I must be just okay.

Like, all that weight that's falling on Rhaenyra of, like, trying to do the right thing.

And then you have the side of the targs who just are like, we're above this all.

Like, why are we even here?

We used to have dragons.

We was Dragon Riders.

Yeah, exactly, Exactly.

That group, that, that attitude of, like, we are owed deference.

We are owed, like, we don't earn it.

We inherited this.

And I found that interesting because then later we hear Raymond be like, who are these weirdos and why are they even here?

Like, we don't want them here.

Go back to your weird empire.

Like, you don't even got dragons no more.

And he uses the terribleness of the Targaryen sons of Maekr's sons to make his point.

He's like, one of them was so useless, they sent him to be a maester.

Which reading that, that's almost pulled directly from the book.

Reading that, that was mean.

George, if you're listening to this podcast, don't put some respect on Maester Aon's name.

It's so rough to do Maester Amen like that.

Yeah.

But he's just like, they're all worthless.

They're all terrible.

We don't need any of them.

You know, it's it.

And he's not wrong that that's the impression that Aryan and Maker are giving.

Maker doesn't even stick around.

Like, he leaves to go find his kids, obviously, but he could have, he could have said that to people like, hey, I'm going to leave to go find my sons.

I, I, I'm happy to open the joust with you, but I'm gonna take my leave.

He doesn't even do that.

He just kind of leaves.

And he, I know that he's worried about his kid, but, like, let's, he knows Darian is in his cups.

Like, let's.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He does not think that boy is dead.

He knows he's in his cups.

No and nobody.

And, and I guess my question is, why is there no, I mean, would they not get.

Because how far they are away from the throne.

Would they not get King's Guardsmen to go with them anywhere when they're traveling?

There's probably not, right?

There's only seven, right?

Yeah, yeah.

Fear.

That makes sense.

I think the Kingsguard only, only protect the king, the queen, and then the heir when the family gets that big.

So they're the reason that there's two Kingsguard there, I think, and I'm just kind of making some assumptions and drawing conclusions, is because both Valar and Baelor are there.

Yeah, that makes sense.

So I want to.

That makes a lot of sense.

I want to go back, though, to what you were talking about, about, like, Raymond and the general sense of, like, I'm above it that you see in a lot of the Targaryens, the sentiment that's happening around, like, the tourney in Ashford, what Raymond says about the Sons.

But I also think he says something else that I think that it's kind of interesting they chose this time period about they come here and they make us fight their wars.

Right.

And die in their wars.

And I think when the Targaryens arrive with Aegon's conquest, they brought people to heel.

And it began with a war, and it began with multiple different battles in a war.

And over time, there's been many, many wars.

There's wars, obviously, the Civil War is one of them that we're watching House of the Dragon, but there's all the wars.

Like, we talked previous episode about some of the rebellions that have happened and the different things that have been put down.

I think that we're seeing.

I think it's really good that they're introducing this because we're starting to see the cracks in the dynasty that we always say, well, dang, what led people just to think, let's go and, like, let's go overthrow, you know, Eris II and let's.

Robert's Rebellion, it actually started.

It's actually been crumbling for quite some time.

And we're starting.

And we're hearing it in the dialogue and we're hearing that and how the small folk are responding to them and responding to the nobility as a whole.

Lord Ashford fucks his sheep.

Mm.

I'm sorry.

It's hilarious.

Lord Astra fucks his sheep is an all time great.

So I think what is your takeaway on the nobles and how they are perceived in this moment, in this kind of midway point between Robert's Rebellion and the dance?

So when we think about the dance, which is what House of the Dragon is about, that's roughly 80 years, roughly 100 years ago.

And I sort of think about all the time how people might have perceived this, that conflict now.

And it's a little bit more.

It's only about 15 years more time and we still are holding grudges.

We still talk smack about it.

But most importantly, we still.

We still think of what.

What was lost.

We still honor the people who died.

We, a lot of us still, like, we can name the relatives who fought in that war.

And that must be what it's like for the characters.

They fought this massive war that on the show has not gotten in full scale, but almost the entire kingdom is involved in it.

In the dance.

And then just 13 years before this, or I think 16 years before this storyline was the Blackfyre Rebellion.

So it's pretty normal for people to bleed for the Targaryens.

And often it's Targaryen fighting Targaryen.

So the Blackfyres are just an offshoot of the Targaryens.

So how many times, if you're a fasaway, how many people in your family have died so that the Targaryens could fight each other over an iron chair?

I can understand the resentment now.

Were my feeling.

Were my feelings hurt in the moment?

Yes, my feelings were hurt in the moment because I don't like nobody talking about my target babies like this.

No, I mean, we love them.

We love that.

We love the chaos that they.

That they bring on lots of different levels.

So I just wanted to, like, hit on that because I think that it really hits on another beat of this.

And it starts with, you know, I don't want to lose, like, another character will get back to him as, like, another new character that came.

But when that character's introduced, it's in the moment of Egg kind of acting out, doing his squire duties and building that relationship.

And so he comes across Robin Rylan, who is the maddest knight in Westeros.

I want you to put a pin in that.

Put a pin in that.

Right?

He's given a lot of Barrek vibes too, like, but put a pin in that.

Just from the look, not from his being, but just the eye patch.

I don't know.

Beric and Thoros of Myr were kind of chaotic.

They were very huge, chaotic energy.

Yeah, for sure.

But I think what I wanted is, as he's doing these squire duties and he's talking to this knight about, like, you know, the horse and kind of like all that stuff.

We're starting to see something develop here.

We're starting to see Egg live amongst the small folk.

He's starting to build a relationship with Dunk, but.

And that connection is growing really well.

But I also think we're starting to see, like, you know, that he's Starting to get a real education around what it means to be not in the nobility.

Nobody's treating him like a prince.

He's seen what it is to have to like, I'm hungry.

We need to go and get this food.

Or we need to figure this out.

How are we gonna pay for this?

Or just be in the shows and see how people are thinking and feeling and speaking about things.

So I find it to be really a great way that they've started to build a relationship between the two of them, but also show how Egg is learning about the realm as a whole.

Yeah.

And I found the sewing thing so endearing because Egg is not that much younger than Maester Aemond.

His brother is a few years older than him, and he's already at the Citadel.

Imagine the education that these young men have had.

And yet Dunk is able to teach him something, a life skill, something that he before would have had to call a servant to do.

He's able to teach him how to do it.

And Egg is delighted to learn it because he wants to be a good squire.

Both Duncan, Egg, to me, are.

So the reason they work is because they both want to earn something.

They want to get something out of this.

Like, Egg is eager to become a squire.

He probably would have had to wait years, years to be a squire before his dad would have let him.

But he.

He's willing to do it for this hedge Knight because he's so eager to be a knight, and he knows that he has to be a squire first.

And Dunk really wants to prove his mettle.

He wants to be.

Show that he's worthy of being there.

And he takes it to heart that Ser Arin, who was, in his estimation, actually not a bad guy.

Right.

And none of these highborn lords even think of him, even remember him.

And so I think this show is going to be an education for both of them.

I've only read the first book, so I. I can't speak to what happens in the second and the third, but I think they're.

They.

They both are going to get a lot out of the experience of being amongst the small folk instead of in the, you know, in the elegant rooms with the people who are all scheming.

Yeah.

And.

And that's in stark contrast to the.

What we've referenced before, which is, you know, everything that Maker is doing, just kind of being above it.

And also the blatant abuse of power that we see with Aryon.

Like, you know, he picks cruelty at every turn.

He picks, you know, like, kind of Underhandedness at every turn.

He is the classic.

Like, he is like, everything that a knight is supposed to be.

He is the opposite.

Not chivalrous, you know, not.

Not acting like, you know, cheating.

So dishonesty.

So there's, like, these things that, like, you just see that he has inside of him that are unchecked.

And we've seen these things before.

Like, obviously, we've seen this before in other Targaryens and other characters in Game of Thrones and, you know, look no further than his own family.

His cousin looks at him kind of like, oh, God.

His uncle looks at him like, oh, man.

Like, I'll just give you a quick nod.

Like, don't embarrass us out here.

And his brother hates him.

Could I just say a thing about Valar that he was so over it.

He was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Put on your little show.

Except I'm.

I'm actually.

Maybe we'll sit on the throne one day.

Like you.

Yeah, you're not going to.

Exactly.

He.

He handled that situation, I think, with, like, the.

In the best possible way.

And so I.

Even though we haven't seen anything really from Valar so far, I already am kind of inclined to like him.

Mm.

Mm.

Yeah, I really, like.

I mean, he was great in the joust.

He was.

He was.

That was a great scene, just the way it was shot.

Oh, my gosh.

I love that.

Yeah, it looked great.

It looked great.

It was so cool.

So, you know, I think.

And just the way he responded to Aryan, you know, I think lots alike.

You know, and Baylor's his dad, so a lot to, like, so far.

So.

Yeah, I think, like.

I think.

I think, like, the other thing I would say is what's up with the.

What's up with the alternative, like, sigil?

Like, what's up with that?

What's up with.

What's up with the.

The helm and the alternative sigil that my boy has?

Like, it's kind of crazy.

I don't know.

He's just doing the most, like.

Also, why are you naming yourself Bright Flame?

It's so weird to give yourself a name, let other people name you.

You're, like, so weird.

It's like, you know, it's, like, super duper removed from the throne, and he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Let me just.

Yeah.

What a character.

We're not enjoying him at all.

We're hoping that something.

So hopefully something bad happens, like, Game.

Only Game of Thrones can do.

So.

Yeah, I think, like, overall, what I would say before we go into the spoiler section is I did want to.

Talk a little bit about the gap, the gambling.

What is this all about?

Yeah, I. I don't know.

You know, I don't think that he's.

I think at this point, you and I talked about this a little offline now that you.

He's not going to end up jousting Ashford's son because he's just been seized by the Kingsguard.

So there's going to be some other things you can even see in the.

Before you can see that he's been imprisoned in the preview to the next episode.

That's dropping, by the way, if you're watching the show and you care about this at all, the.

The episode's dropping Friday because, you know, oh, right, football's happening in America.

I'm so glad you guys know.

But.

Yeah, because I forgot to.

To say that I.

Yes, the.

We will be able to watch on Friday, which I'm.

I'm actually kind of excited about.

Yeah, me too.

I think it's a better drop day for them for this show, honestly.

But, yeah, no, I think.

I think.

I think he's.

I think the only thing.

And I said this to you offline.

I think the only thing that they could be trying to do is calling into question Ashford's son's honor and the honor of Lord Ashford.

And so as he has to deal with whatever's gonna come next, these are not gonna be people that he trusts.

You know what I mean?

That could be the only thing, because it doesn't make much sense otherwise.

I don't think there's any way that he's gonna joust, this guy.

Yeah.

I'm curious to see where it goes.

I thought at first this was supposed to be, like, a moral test for.

For dunk.

But then I thought about it more, and I was like, but I don't think he's gonna.

He's imprisoned.

I don't think he's gonna be able to joust.

Like, even if Ed gets him out of this situation just by being like, hey, he's a good, good guy.

I don't know if he's gonna be able to enter the list, and anything that he does now is gonna be looked upon with suspicion.

So I was like, is he ever gonna get to answer this question?

I mean, you got to think they will do it.

Like.

Like, But.

But it doesn't.

I know.

It feels.

It feels.

It feels like they should.

I don't understand why they introduce it.

I mean, obviously, them introducing it, they're going to, like, they're going to bring it.

This.

It's going to come back some kind of way, otherwise they're going to get dragged.

So let's just see what they do with it.

I don't know what they're going to do with it, but they got to be.

It might.

It might be.

You might be right, that this is just to prove the Ashfords are not on the up and up.

Yeah.

I think that.

I think that's planting.

That will probably be the way.

I do love the character that they use, and maybe they just want another way to get him involved because he's hilarious.

He's so good, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I love that actor.

He's really, really good.

Yeah, I like it, too.

And I think, you know, this is really.

This is really the.

I guess some of why they may be introducing it is something that you and I have talked about and that, you know, this show is really going into, like, the value system, an alternative value system for Westeros, you know, a decency, protection, responsibility.

And it's, again, like you said earlier, it's a very big contrast to the cruelty and some of the other things that we've seen throughout in this world and also by certain characters.

So I think, like, you know, they're trying to maybe add another piece to that of, like, hey, this person is a decent person, you know?

Yeah.

I think that when we think about Game of Thrones, the characters that we love the most are honorable.

Right.

The ones that we think will do the right thing.

Ser Davos, Jon Snow, Ned Stark, Tywin Lannister.

Sorry I said the right thing, but actually, no, I'm glad you said that, because there are also characters that the audience wants to see thrive because they won't do the right thing.

Yeah.

And we root sometimes for the side of getting revenge.

Right.

Which is not an honorable thing to do.

Right.

But we, as the audience, we really indulged in some of the base tendencies of the characters in the world.

Like, Varys was a fan favorite.

Varys was a terrible guy.

Yeah.

Love.

For sure.

Love the dude.

But he was.

He was just as bad as Littlefinger.

Yeah.

But we liked him because he was aligned with our guys.

Right.

And so I think that this show is trying to do something else.

It's trying to center, like, what if the character wants to be good and actually is striving every day to be good in the system is what keeps them from keeping that promise.

And so the tension I think we're seeing here is that Dunk is Outside of this system that functions a certain way, he's the outsider.

But we want him to.

We want him to thrive within it.

And he's finding that that's actually really hard if you're also being a good person and that maybe there's no reward for that.

His mentor, who he looks up to, is forgotten.

Nobody even remembers who he is.

And I think that's.

And I think that's important.

And I think it's important there's no accident that Balor remembers his mentor and his teacher.

Because I think what they're telling us about leadership, even in a relationship with Egg and Dunk, is that in order to be a good leader, you have to be able to follow.

And in order to be.

And there's a level of humility in that.

And I think you can see it in Duncan, how he followed Ser Arlin.

You can see it in AEG and how he's so willing to be a squire even though he's of the nobility.

You can see it in Baelor that he was not above noticing those and noticing that maybe weren't on his level from a rank or from a hierarchy standpoint, but he still had a level of respect and care about who they are.

And that is a running theme around the characters that we're finding are being pushed forward as, like, honorable is that they're also humble and they're also connected to the plight of others.

You know what I mean?

What other people are going through.

And I think that's a point that's being made in this particular version of Westeros.

And I think it's pretty cool.

So I agree.

All right, so we will ask if you don't want spoilers for the greater broader A Song of Ice and Fire lore or any future implications of this show or House of the Dragon things that have not been shown on screen.

Now is the time to let yourself out of the.

Keep.

Let yourself out.

Just go.

Just get out of here.

Sing one of the many songs that you can sing.

You could sing.

Well, Reigns of Castamere hasn't happened yet, so don't sing that one yet.

You can sing a song about Alice.

You can whistle that song that's been happening in the background.

I kind of like that song.

It's got a nice little vibe to it.

Leave Alice alone.

Poor Alice.

Poor Alice.

It's not even her name.

I want to know the name.

Like Dunk.

I'm trying to figure it out.

I mean, like Egg, I'm trying to figure out what did they really name her anyway?

But let yourself out.

We're going to get into the spoiler section.

All right.

Do we think they're gone?

I think so.

I think if they're not gone, that's their own fault.

All right, so let's go into it.

So where do you want to kick off?

I want to talk about the prophecy, which several people said to me that this is not a spoiler because if you take 10 minutes and think about it, like, you'll understand it.

But I just don't.

I don't want to be that person.

So I want to talk about the prophecy and Summer Hole.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like it.

So the prophecy is, the fortune teller says, to Egg, you shall be king and die in a hot fire, and worms shall feed upon your ashes, and all who know you shall rejoice in your dying.

Jeez, way harsh.

Wasn't really that necessary?

First of all, will everybody who knows him rejoice?

That's what I was wondering.

Damn.

I know.

That's what I was wondering too.

It was kind of crazy.

That's kind of crazy.

That's a crazy take.

Way harsh.

So what do you think about their inclusion of this?

Because I, I don't know.

This feels like it's supposed to be like an Easter egg, but I don't feel like Summerhall is like a widely known story.

So I just, I felt that the, the Egon hints up until the reveal in this, in episode three were a little bit too heavy handed.

Yeah, I would agree.

I. I think there's an argument to be made that.

Introducing the Yul Byrne.

Will they.

They wrote this, we talk about this.

It's getting a little meta.

But you know, sometimes writers are in there writing because they know that there's chatter on the Internet or that it will draw people to the greater lore or the greater stories.

I don't necessarily love that, but I know that there probably were a bunch of people who were like, well, what happens to Egg?

Like, you know, and like googled it and looked it up and, you know, threw it in an LLM.

And I think, like, that's what they're wanting, right?

They want you to get deeper into like, oh, I'm going to research that and look this up and figure this out.

And so I think there's that piece of it.

But then I also think, you know, I also think that, let's just think about this in world.

Would you, as Aegon V, if you got that said to you when you were a kid and it was that startling, would you forget that and make all the choices that he made anyway and end up at Summer hall where.

Where Summer hall burns down and he dies.

Wouldn't there be certain things you wouldn't make those choices.

You know, I mean it.

It's like a little bit.

I didn't particularly love it because it's a little too heavy handed in the.

When George's whole.

George writes a lot when the people trying to pursue a prophecy, it becomes their downfall.

But this is actually a prophecy that I think Egg would have tried to avoid.

Avoid.

Right.

And the thing is, I can't say more because we don't know what happened at Summerhall.

All we know is that Summerhall is the Targaryens family.

I think I said this on the last episode, but it's basically their summer home there.

It's.

It's a castle that's outside of King's Landing in the.

In, I think the Dornish marshes or near Dorne.

Take Martha's Vineyard.

Sans dragons in Westeros.

Precisely.

Cold harbor, like that kind of vibe.

And I think from my recollection, the sun under whoever's at Dragonstone.

So the heir gets Dragonstone and then the next person gets Summerhall.

But basically in 50 years, exactly 50 years from this story, King Aegon V will gather his entire family.

Well, we don't know if everybody was there, but the majority of his family and the whole castle will burn down and there will be so few people left that no one really knows what went down.

There's like toxins, wildfire.

Oh, sorry.

No, I know Prince Duncan is there.

Was Sir Duncan the Tall there too?

Is he there also.

Was Dunk there?

In my mind, I think so.

I think he did die at Summerhall, but I don't remember.

So I was wondering.

No, actually with track though, yes, he did die.

It's a tragedy at Summerhall.

You're right.

Okay.

And this is also like a pivotal moment in the history of the show because Rhaegar is born in the.

Like literally in the.

During the fire his mom goes into labor and he is born amongst the ashes of this great castle.

And like the symbolism is beautiful.

Right.

Rhaegar, who is supposed to be the next generation of hope, is born amongst the absolute slaughter of the rest of the family's legacy.

And this is one of the reasons that Maester Aemon thought that he was the prince that was promised.

But we don't know really what happened.

So I guess we can't say that this is something that maybe Dunk.

I'm sorry, maybe Egg thought to avoid this Prophecy, he had to bring back the dragons and that's why he was focused on that and that's why Summerhall happened.

But I don't know.

I didn't like this at all.

But you know how I feel about.

You know how I feel about them introducing prophecy.

Yeah, no, for sure.

And, you know, it was like one of those things where they introduce it.

And it's funny the way that Dunk kind of responds to it afterwards.

Like, what are you worried about?

Like, what are you.

Like, whatever.

It's like it's not even real.

Right.

But I think that Egg takes it seriously because he.

I think what I like the part I did like about it and not.

And I'm with you on all of it, what you just said, but the part I did like about it was Egg's response.

Not that was that his response was.

Why would she say that?

Because in order he recognizes in that moment, in order for me to become king, so many people have to die that I care about and will die.

Like, you know what I mean?

Like, so he's already put.

He's a smart enough kid that he's put together.

Like, why would she say that?

Like, you know what I mean?

And so it wasn't the becoming king.

Most people, again, showing Eggs, like, humility, empathy, care.

Most people would have been like, well, I'm going to become king.

They would have missed.

They would have skipped the whole burn in the ashes.

People will hate you.

People in my family are going to die.

And just thought about, I'm going to become king.

Right?

And so especially in this world.

And I think, like, it's pretty profound that his.

His first reaction was like, why would she say that?

That's terrible.

You know what I mean?

That's terrible news.

I also wondered if this lady was supposed to be the Ghost of High Heart, which is believed to be the same woods witch that accompanied Jenny of Oldstone, also at Summerhall, and also supposed to be the same woman who gave Cersei her the Valonqor.

Valonqor prophecy.

So which the show like Game of Thrones never went into.

But it was the basically saying that her little brother was going to kill her.

And she always thought it was Tyrion, but it very likely is.

Jamie.

If we ever get winds of winter in a dream of spring.

But I won't go down that path right now.

And so I wondered if she was just supposed to be a nod or we're supposed to understand that this is the same person.

But I found the whole exchange very chilling.

It really bothered me, especially saying it to a child that young.

And there's so many examples in the Targaryen family alone where people pursued prophecy and it led to their destruction.

And then we have Danny, who doesn't know about the prophecy and very likely fulfills that prophecy in the very first book.

There's something beautiful about, like, the symmetry of it all, but it's, it's very upsetting to see Egg get that news delivered to him.

And I'm kind of curious what they're going to do of it.

Was it just kind of a hint to the audience, like, this is who this is, or was.

Are they going to.

Is it going to refer back to it later?

I guess that's what I'm really curious about.

I mean, it would be great.

I know that the showrunner is like having some delusions of grandeur right now of taking 10 year breaks and like coming back to the show, but it would be great if we had enough content like you and I talked about to actually find out the answer to like, you know, do time jumps, maybe recast.

Let's find out the answer to what the hell happened at Summerhall.

Like, you know, like.

But that would be, that would be absolutely amazing.

It's.

It's one of.

Because this tourney has a.

Like, like what I wanted to say when we were talking, I said, I'll wait till the spoiler section.

Like House of the Dragon and Daemon, Daemon coming out, Daemon coming and his children, him and Rhaenyra's children being the ones that really survive the dance.

And all of these people being the descendants of that line, of that portion of the line of the Targaryens.

Like, you see them show up, their personality traits show up multiple times.

You see Viserys, you see, you see these things happen.

But the other piece of it is there's also this.

There's also, in this moment, I feel like a need to reclaim some of their power that they're still holding that sentiment that they're feeling in the realm.

They're feeling like we need to reclaim some of the power that we lost because they didn't hold on to dragons.

They weren't able to hold on to their traditions, they weren't able to keep dragons alive in the realm.

And so this is what, this, that fact that they killed off a lot of the dragons and this tourney, and what happens in this tourney, which is kind of like, you know, pivotal, really shifts the history of the realm that gives us the fulfillment of the prophecy through Dany and, you know, like, on this pod, we just believe that that's what's being communicated.

Right?

Like that.

I just fully believe that that's what's being communicated in the books, in the show, especially in House of the Dragon with that whole montage.

So I just.

I think, like, this is a.

This is a very pivotal moment in history.

And those things, like this tourney, Summerhall, those things change the trajectory of the realm and lead us to Robert's Rebellion.

Mm, totally.

And I think that we can't talk about, like, Summerhall and Aerion and all of these things without really talking about this damn prophecy that they introduced in House of the Dragon, the prince or.

Princess that was promised.

Again, I had no problem with the prince that was promised.

I had.

I have problems with Aegon's dream.

Okay.

That's where I was like, oh, here we go.

And I swear, if I see that dagger, if I see the dagger, be prepared.

Paul, you think we're going to see the dagger in this show?

No.

Come on.

I think we could see the dagger.

My God.

I think it all depends.

Does Ryan Condal want us to see the dagger or not?

Oh, that's great.

Because somehow Joffrey got the dagger, so the dagger wasn't totally lost.

I think we talked about in our first House of the Dragon season that perhaps the dagger was found at Summerhall, but if the dagger was found at Summerhall, then the dagger is.

Is going to be.

Probably be at this tourney at some point.

So we see the dagger.

I'm going to.

I'm probably going to lose it.

I really won't.

But it is what it is.

But I think we.

We can't not talk about the Targaryen dreamers, because that was something.

One of the reasons I enjoy these shows that are not like the main show, and when I say the main show, I mean Game of Thrones is because they can kind of get us thinking differently about the lore.

And.

And House of the Dragon did something really smart, which is because there's so many Targaryens in that show, they gave us two dreamers.

Prior to House of the Dragon, the dreamers that we were canonically aware of were Dany and Maester Aemon.

Oh, and I guess we could put Rhaegar in there as well, because Rhaegar, it's very heavily implied that he, too was a dreamer.

So we have now the.

These shows, and plus the original text have given us five confirmed dreamers.

Dany, Maester Aemon, Viserys the First, and Helaena Right.

And Rhaegar and Aegon.

Aegon for the first Aegon.

Oh, six.

You're right.

I always forget about the Conqueror.

I always forget about the Conqueror.

Yeah, me, too.

Thinking about the con.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Aegon having that dream is what led them to come.

Yeah.

And plus, we have Daenys the dreamer who got them out of Valyria, so we have a few confirmed dreamers.

Right.

And then a passage that I've actually talked about on this podcast before, but I have always suspected that all of Aemond's brothers were also dreamers.

Certainly Aryan, but in addition to Aryon, Aegon V, which is Egg, and also Darren.

And so I just want to take a moment to, like, reflect on the fact that all four brothers were dreamers.

And that's, like, kind of intense.

And so I. I went and looked at the passage today because I was.

I wanted to, like, hear, like, see exactly what Maester Aemon said, because I remembered him and Sam having a conversation about this in the books, so.

In A Feast for Crows, on my version, which is the Kindle version, it was on page 431.

I remember Sam.

I still remember.

He was not making sense.

Remember what?

Dragons, Eamonn whispered.

The grief and the glory of my house.

They were.

The last dragon died before you were born, said Sam.

How could you remember them?

I see them in my dreams, San.

I see a red star bleeding in the sky.

I still remember red.

I see their shadows on the snow.

Hear the crack of leather wings, Feel their hot breath.

My brothers dreamed of dragons, too, and the dreams killed them, every one.

All of these brothers have the same affliction.

And so to me, having.

Having Egg had that prophecy given to him, and then knowing that he still did what he did, I just felt this, like, overwhelming sense of empathy for the Targaryen dreamers in a way that hadn't really hit me before, which is like.

It's almost like an affliction.

A few years after this tourney, Aerion is gonn Wildfire.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like, this guy's terrible.

I'm not trying to defend him, but it's.

It must be terrible to be tormented by what was supposed to be a great responsibility and a warning about what was, what was to come.

And it leads to your demise every time, and very likely to Dany's as well.

And also.

But also like that.

It leads to, like.

If we go back to the very first person we're talking about, like, you know, like, you know, with Aegon the Conqueror having the dream to come to Westeros, and then if we believe what happens in House of the Dragon season one, where he's talking about that they'll, you know, talking about the prince that was promised.

I kind of think that it's fascinating to see that even though these people are thinking that all these years later that they're going to somehow be able to avoid their fate or figure it out or whatever.

And it's all leading to the.

What was potentially supposed to happen, which was what we think is Danny.

Right.

Like, that's all even, like, because Danny, like by birth, should be so far away from the throne if everything doesn't go the way it goes all those years before and Summer hall doesn't happen.

Right.

So I just think, like, you know, like, I think, like, it's fascinating how it just kind of all lines up.

But, yeah, I'm with you.

I do feel.

I felt a lot of empathy for him.

I, I felt.

It's hard to see, you know, what's coming, you know, what's going to happen for him.

And, and, you know, they're, they're already telling us, you know.

Yeah.

So you tell.

You told me that you wanted to close out.

You told me that there's some theory.

I don't know this theory.

It's.

I know a lot of theories in, In A Song of Ice and Fire World.

This is one I do not know.

You're like, okay, I want to talk about this.

I want your real time reaction.

All right, let's go.

What is it?

What's this theory?

So there's a theory about the tourney at Ashford Meadow that connects to the original books.

Okay.

And involves a character that you're probably going to be a little surprised.

It is about Sansa Stark.

Fascinating.

Okay.

Okay.

So Lord Ashford's daughter is the queen of love and beauty at this point.

Torny.

Right.

And she has five champions.

And I'm just gonna name the champions.

We saw them in that, that first night melee.

She has five champions.

They were chosen before.

Right?

They were chosen by Lord Ashford before the tourney started.

So I'm just gonna name them and you tell me how you think this relates to our dear Sansa.

Okay.

Queen of the north, one is Lionel Baratheon.

Okay.

Two is Leo Tyrell.

Three is Ty Bolt Lannister.

Four is Humphrey Harding and five is Prince Valar.

How does that relate to Sansa Stark?

Yeah, so just take the first three.

I'm going with obviously, Tyrell and Lannister.

Yeah.

So that's where I went right away in my brain.

I'm thinking okay, it relates to Sansa.

I mean she has God, she has a lot of interactions with all those different people.

So House Tyrell is the so first let's go Baratheon.

House Baratheon is the house that she believes to be marrying.

It she's marrying into Even though that Joffrey's a bastard.

It turns out that they betray her family.

House Tyrell is the house that really saves her by having by distracting Joffrey away from torturing Sansa to some level.

And then House Lannister she marries Tyrion.

So to basically help in freeing her from the clutches of of the crazy king Joffrey.

So those so all three of those houses have some very strong connections to Sansa Stark story.

But what is the what's the prophecy piece or what's the theory?

So the the show did not set you up for success and the show has done a couple of things that have confused people.

And I'll talk about the other one after we talk about this theory.

Every single one of these characters that I have just named except for the fifth one Sansa has had some kind of marriage pact with at some point.

She is betrothed to Joffrey.

She is betrothed then to what's his name?

Willis Tyrell.

Tyrell Margaery's older brother.

He's in.

I don't.

He's not in the show but in the book he's.

He's the heir to the Tyrell title.

What is that man's name?

I think it's Willis.

I don't know.

Laris Tyrell is talking about.

No, it's is somebody else.

I feel like it starts with W. I'll look it up later.

And then she marries Tyrion Lannister.

And in the veil she is again promised to a Harding who we call the heir because he's about to he's like the next heir to the Vale.

Okay.

So Littlefinger has her essentially waiting in the wings to be married to this guy.

It hasn't happened yet, but that's Littlefinger's plan.

So that leaves us with number five, which is Prince Valar took Targaryen.

Valar Targaryen.

So that that could be foreshadowing that this dude that Sansa may or may not marry in the veil doesn't make it.

Or that the engagement is broke and that she marries a target instead.

Interesting.

It's just a theory.

It's been kicking around the Internet for like a decade.

At least I first became aware of it.

I don't know.

I Want to say maybe five or six years ago.

I don't even remember how I came across it, but it's always intrigued me because for a long time I was trying to figure out how she was going to marry Jon, because I was like, that's the only thing that makes sense, is that she's going to marry Jon, they're going to rule over the north together.

It solidifies her claim to the North.

And then I was like, aha.

Joffrey is not a real Baratheon.

It's about names, not lineage.

So actually, I think what might, if this is true, I think what might be next is that Littlefinger is going to have Sansa betrothed to Faegon.

I was about to say Faegon.

I was about to say Faegon.

Yeah, that made the most sense.

I think it would be terrible for her.

I hate that for her.

But I act.

If George is actually, like, foreshadowing here, I think that that's where.

That's what this would be telling us, that she is going, Littlefinger is going to betroth her to Faegon.

Let's go old school Targaryen.

And let's say that Dany has some Rhaenyra in her.

And when she shows up to the north and she lays eyes upon Sansa, she's like, you know what, Jon?

You go over there.

I kind of like your sister.

Like, let's go that.

Let's go that route.

That somehow she falls in love.

Maybe she falls in love with Dany in the books.

Maybe that happens.

That would be.

You know.

You know, there are actually Danny Sansa shippers.

I actually do.

Here's the thing I really didn't like about the final season is I actually do think Dany and Sansa would like each other.

Yeah.

Because I think Dany would feel very protective of Sansa right away.

Yep.

Me too.

Because Danny, at the end of the day, is usually a girl's girl.

Not always, but usually a girl's girl anyway.

So that's the Ashford theory.

It's just a silly theory.

I don't really think anything of it, but I'm sure it's one that George is aware of.

And so sometimes I think about whether George is delighted by this or he absolutely hates it.

I absolutely.

I like that.

I like that these theories are out there.

It makes you, like, kind of, you know, like, I didn't know that one.

That's one I'm normally like.

I mean, reading a lot about theories and stuff online with this world.

But, like, that's what I had no clue about.

And I'm happy you told me.

That's.

That makes me happy.

I just thought of that, like, maybe an hour before we started recording.

I got something I want to ask you.

I want to see that.

I'm happy you told me.

That's great.

I love that.

I have no.

I had no freaking clue.

And then I just have a little correction that also has to be in the spoiler section, because I've seen a few people super confused about this in the show.

Maester Aemon, when he's talking about his family, he skips a generation.

And I'm not sure why he says that Aerys II is the son of Aegon V. When he.

He's.

I think he's talking to Jon.

I think it's the same conversation.

That's the love is the death of duty conversation.

Yeah.

And he skips a generation.

And so I saw a few people talking about this online, saying, like, should we understand this to be canon in the show world?

That Daenerys is actually Egg's granddaughter?

No, I don't.

I wouldn't say that.

I also just want to say that a lot of the family tree wasn't fully developed until George wrote Fire and Blood.

And so we should just, you know, let's give some grace here.

Like, I don't know if this was a Dave and Dan issue and they just collapsed it to make it a simpler story or if maybe the family tree wasn't fully worked out and available to them, but I think it's not that big of a deal.

Justice for Jaehaerys the Second Targaryen.

Okay.

Justice for Jaehaerys.

Was Dune.

Even a good king.

You know, my targ.

Things get real iffy for me around.

Here's what I know about Jaehaerys ii.

What I know is, you know, of all of Aegon.

So Aegon, spending time with all the small folk, came to understand their distaste and their kind of, like, upset with intermarrying.

And so he decided to marry all his children to people in the great houses.

It was gonna help him politically.

It would solidify power.

It was a smart move.

And they.

Because they were putting him through it.

So he.

Yeah.

And then fucking the guy who he named after his favorite guy, like Duncan Jr. Duncan.

Prince Duncan Fucks it up with Jenny of Old Stone.

Rough.

Rough.

And then as soon as that happens, everybody's like, oh, it's a free for all.

There's no consequences.

There's no consequences, right?

In fact.

In fact, something that you all will find that I think people probably may know that are listening to this section, but if you don't know, I found interesting is that one of the people I believe that was betrothed to one of the sons was Olenna Tyrell.

And also Lionel, Lyonel Baratheon's son was also supposed to marry one of these targ children who were like, no, I want to marry my sibling.

No, I want to marry a commoner.

Right, Right.

So I said all that to say that the one thing I know about Jaehaerys is that Aegon made an exception in the case of Shera and Jaehaerys because they took to each other at such a young age and allowed the two of them to marry.

So they are both Targaryens, and that is what led to the Mad King.

So some of the sentiment around the small folk feeling that he was a mad king was because of their.

Also their sentiment about intermarrying and what it had done to Targaryens in the past and what they felt about it in the realm.

So that.

That's.

That's what I know about our boy Jaehaerys.

That's it.

He liked his sister.

I don't know anything about Egg's kids at all, except for the Jenny of Oldstone thing.

And even that is a little fuzzy to me.

And I knew that they put him.

They put Egg through it with.

They put him through it with the kids, with the marriages.

I mean, he was out here trying to make alliances, and they were like, no.

Yeah, they were.

It was rough.

And.

And that's where John said that I don't want it from that generation was like, I don't want it.

Yeah, but doesn't it.

Doesn't it trip you out that like.

Like, these fucking Baratheons and Targaryens, man, like, because people seem to forget that the Baratheons are also came over here at the same time as the targets.

Like, people just seem to, like, hand wave that.

But it's kind of just wild to me that even like that, that Robert is like, Robert's grandfather is a fucking grandmother, is a Targaryen.

It's just nuts.

It's just nice, though.

I fucking hate them.

I hate all these Targaryens.

And he's, like, out here, like, big mad at the whole generation.

Like, yo, what about your mom?

Like, literally, your mom.

Literally, your mom.

I mean, your.

Your.

Your grandmom.

Literally, your grandmom.

I mean, that's what he sort of used to claim legitimacy, right?

Yeah, not fully, because at the end of the day.

He won the war.

He won the war.

But he was able to say that if not for the corruption, you know, he.

He.

He got the corrupt side of the family out of the way.

So I.

The.

The Baratheons are basically like the Velaryons.

Like, they just.

They don't stray too far from the Targaryen family line at all.

No, at all.

For sure.

For sure.

They're the tinsel on the reef.

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