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Episode 100: Taylor's Road to PA School Acceptance
Episode 10023rd August 2019 • The Pre-PA Club • Savanna Perry
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One hundred episodes. I genuinely did not think this would still be going, and I'm grateful to every one of you who listens.

For this one I brought on Taylor, who works with me and is also one of my favorite people. She's now headed to PA school, and her road there was not quick. She went back for coursework, applied more than once, and kept going after being told no.

I wanted her on for episode 100 specifically because her story is the one most listeners are actually living. Not the applicant who got in on the first try with a 3.9 - the one who kept adjusting and reapplying until it worked.

Thank you for a hundred episodes. Here's to the next hundred.

What we talk about:

  • Taylor's path to PA school acceptance
  • Going back for prerequisite coursework
  • Applying more than once and what changed each time
  • Handling rejection without quitting
  • Working at The PA Platform while applying
  • What she'd tell someone in the middle of it

Resources:

Free application timeline: https://www.thepaplatform.com/services/free-application-timeline

Pre-PA counseling: https://www.thepaplatform.com/services/pre-pa-counseling

CASPA GPA calculator: https://www.thepaplatform.com/pa-school-caspa-gpa-calculator

PA Program Map: https://www.thepaplatform.com/pa-platform-map

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Speaker A:

Episode 100 is here and it's honestly my favorite one ever.

Speaker A:

Welcome to the Pre PA Club podcast.

Speaker A:

If you want to learn how to become a physician assistant, you're in the right place.

Speaker A:

I'm your host, Savannah Perry.

Speaker A:

Let's get to it.

Speaker B:

Actually, let's get to it.

Speaker A:

I can't believe you did not.

Speaker B:

Hi, everyone, this is Taylor and I'm taking over for Savannah today.

Speaker B:

Just kidding.

Speaker A:

Alright, y', all, Taylor's probably gonna kill me and make me take that out, but I just wanted to put that in there to let you know how fun this episode is going to be because I'm talking to one of my best friends and I hope that you love it as much as I do.

Speaker A:

So here is me and Taylor.

Speaker A:

Hey, guys, thanks so much for tuning in to today's episode.

Speaker A:

And this is a really special, special one for a few reasons.

Speaker A:

Number one, it's episode number 100, which seems like a lot and means this podcast has been going on for a very long time.

Speaker A:

I know some of you messaged me saying how you binge listen, which I think is so cool and hopefully not terribly boring.

Speaker A:

But thank you so much for following along and listening.

Speaker A:

And if you aren't already subscribed, I think the hundredth episode would be a perfect time to do so on itunes.

Speaker A:

Make sure you're subscribed so you don't miss out on any episodes for feel free to leave a review and we will get to the winner of our review contest in just a few minutes.

Speaker A:

But I have a very, very special guest on today.

Speaker A:

Co host.

Speaker A:

Can we call you a co host?

Speaker A:

Sure.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker A:

So if you recall from episode number 15, which is a long time ago when I was basically begging people to come on my podcast, I had one of my very closest friends and my favorite coworker Taylor, on to talk about her job as a medical assistant.

Speaker A:

And then at that point in time, which I guess was a year or two ago, yeah, Taylor had decided at that point to pursue PA school.

Speaker A:

So we have a special announcement, but.

Speaker A:

Alright, so before we get into Taylor's big news, I did want to mention the sponsor of the podcast, my PA Resource, which Taylor actually used when she was going through applications because.

Speaker A:

Probably because I told you to, but yeah.

Speaker A:

So she had her essay edited and it's only PAs who edit.

Speaker A:

You can use the code futurepa for a discount with my PA resource, which you can also use that code on anything through the PA platform, including mock interviews, the PA School interview guide, and now the new PA School interview course.

Speaker A:

And all of that's linked below.

Speaker A:

The course [email protected] and it's been really fun so far.

Speaker A:

We have a lot of people in the Facebook group.

Speaker A:

People are posting their videos, practicing questions.

Speaker A:

So it's been a lot of fun.

Speaker A:

And then also PA school prep.

Speaker A:

So if you are about to start PA school and need a refresher on anatomy, physiology, med terms, that's something else you should check out paschoolprep.com and you can use the code futurepa for a discount on that as well.

Speaker A:

So let me see.

Speaker A:

I'm going to tell you guys if I can figure out how to do it all about the podcast giveaway.

Speaker A:

So last week I announced that because the course was coming out, we were gonna give away a membership to it.

Speaker A:

So I did choose a winner from the reviews that have come in.

Speaker A:

And so if this is you, send me an email with something that identifies that this was you.

Speaker A:

Usually you can kind of take a screenshot or your email or whatever.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

Morgan, Lynn Tin wrote.

Speaker A:

So helpful and empowering.

Speaker A:

I love the podcast.

Speaker A:

It has motivated me on days when I wonder if this is all worth it.

Speaker A:

It also emp.

Speaker A:

It makes me feel like I'm going to make it through and get that PAC someday.

Speaker A:

I've been listening since the beginning and can't wait to see where it goes after 100 episodes.

Speaker A:

So we're there.

Speaker A:

I think it's just gonna keep going.

Speaker A:

I don't know.

Speaker A:

But Morgan, email me at savannahepa platform to get your interview course.

Speaker B:

Congrats.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker A:

So Taylor, what is your big news?

Speaker B:

I got into PA school.

Speaker A:

I feel like I need an applause to add.

Speaker B:

So, yeah, very exciting.

Speaker B:

It is exciting.

Speaker A:

So Taylor's journey to PA school is honestly in every single way completely the opposite of mine.

Speaker A:

So if you've kind of listened to my process of how, you know, I went to undergrad, pretty sure I wanted to do something in medicine, became a pa, applied while I was in undergrad, got in, started school right away, all that jazz.

Speaker A:

It's great.

Speaker A:

People still do that, but I think there are also a lot more people who are in Taylor's shoes.

Speaker A:

Maybe didn't know what a PA was, happened into medicine by chance, and then ended up going down this path and finding out that it's kind of hard.

Speaker A:

So, yeah, so I'm gonna let Taylor just kind of tell you guys a little bit about her journey and how she got to this point, and then I'll chime in with some questions along the way.

Speaker B:

So I Graduated with a degree in public relations.

Speaker B:

Thought that I wanted to do something in pr, just like, for background for y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker B:

Moved to a new city after college, could not find a job in pr.

Speaker B:

Ended up getting this job at a dermatology clinic that I still work at right now.

Speaker B:

And they kind of trained me to be like, front desk reception.

Speaker B:

Then became a medical assistant.

Speaker B:

So all my training was kind of on site here.

Speaker B:

And that's how I first was introduced to what a PA is, because we hired one and I became her medical assistant.

Speaker B:

So I knew that when I started working, I did not want to be a medical assistant forever.

Speaker B:

Didn't know what else I wanted to do.

Speaker B:

But working with a PA really showed me, like, this could be something that I would want to do long term.

Speaker B:

I really liked just getting to shadow and work with a PA 24 7.

Speaker B:

Really just showed me all the ins and outs of it.

Speaker B:

So three years ago, I finally decided, like, this is what I wanted to pursue.

Speaker B:

Well, with my Mass Comm degree, I had zero math and sciences, so I had to get those prereq courses out of the way, had to do some shadowing.

Speaker B:

And I feel like all of y' all pre PA students out there know that there is a lot of stuff that goes along with applying to PA school.

Speaker B:

Each PA school is different, so trying to figure out how to do all of those requirements and take classes.

Speaker B:

So basically I was taking classes at a school here that had evening classes.

Speaker B:

So I got most of my biologies, anatomy, microbiology, even took a psychology course because of course, like, when you're looking at prereq, I took sociology because back in 10 plus years ago, I didn't know what I wanted to do, and I just took classes that I thought I needed, and it took human growth and development.

Speaker B:

I took a bunch of prereq classes to get my.

Speaker B:

To get all those for PA school.

Speaker B:

So my first application cycle was actually three years ago.

Speaker B:

I guess.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

The first time I applied and.

Speaker B:

And I'm trying to, like, I'm just gonna go through and tell y' all my story.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I, like, didn't realize that you could still be in the process of taking classes and still apply for school.

Speaker B:

So to be honest, looking back, I was probably a little too gun, like, trigger happy.

Speaker B:

I was excited.

Speaker B:

I was like, I'm gonna do this now.

Speaker B:

So I applied and I still had a bunch of outstanding prereqs.

Speaker B:

Probably like 5.

Speaker A:

You only applied to one school?

Speaker B:

One school, yeah.

Speaker B:

The school here where I live and so thought that I Could do a lot more than I was able to in a short amount of time, so.

Speaker A:

Well, I want you guys to realize Taylor is trying to work full time.

Speaker A:

Like she didn't cut back her hours.

Speaker A:

She's working five days a week and then finding classes that fit her schedule, which include going immediately from work straight to school, being there from, I don't.

Speaker B:

Know, like 5:20 to 9:20 at night.

Speaker A:

When you wake up and things involved.

Speaker A:

And so then, you know, still trying to somewhat maintain a life.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Also get shadowing and you're volunteering still, like she was.

Speaker A:

She had a lot and that's made me help, helped me to gain some admiration for people who go back and do this as a second career.

Speaker A:

I mean, college students, I know you guys do a lot too, because I was there.

Speaker A:

But I don't think you realize when you're in college, how much free time.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Oh my gosh, so much.

Speaker A:

And you will never have that again in your entire life.

Speaker B:

So make the most of it all you can.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Or at least like enjoy it.

Speaker A:

And so, yeah, so Taylor was taking hard classes and all this.

Speaker B:

So I thought that like I could take all of these in the school.

Speaker B:

That I was taking them out was on the quarter system.

Speaker B:

So it was a little bit easier to get more than one class in at a time.

Speaker B:

But I was like very eager to apply for BA school.

Speaker B:

Needless to say, I did not hear back from the school for an interview that first time.

Speaker B:

So I was like, okay, that's fine.

Speaker B:

Like I feel like I've heard several times that, oh, most people like don't get in on their first try.

Speaker B:

Which I was like, okay, like it's fine.

Speaker B:

Like I'm just going to try it again.

Speaker B:

So I kept taking classes and the last three classes that I needed were chemistry.

Speaker B:

If I could go back and do it again, I don't know if I would leave those for last.

Speaker B:

And just like, it's funny to look back with like time, like timing wise.

Speaker B:

Because if I would have started with chemistry, the school.

Speaker B:

So long story short, the school I was going to no longer offered organic chemistry when I needed it.

Speaker B:

If I would have started with chemistry, I would have been able to take it at the school.

Speaker B:

But that's another story for another day.

Speaker B:

But so I reapplied again this time last year to one school, to one school again.

Speaker B:

Same school, same school again.

Speaker B:

And I just had.

Speaker B:

I waited longer this that time too.

Speaker B:

So like, normally, I think this school application opened in July.

Speaker B:

I applied in September because I was waiting to take chemistry, applied again, had three pending classes instead of five, which I was like, oh, that's better.

Speaker B:

I'm gonna get them done.

Speaker A:

Talk about your chemistry experience for a minute.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

Online classes.

Speaker A:

This.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

So going back to when I applied and have like five like pending classes.

Speaker B:

And then I can't remember because it was like two years ago for some reason I couldn't get into chemistry at the school I was taking it at like timing wise or something.

Speaker B:

So I decided that I was going to take online chemistry, which, like there are options out there for you to do it.

Speaker B:

And this one that I did was like self paced, which I was like, oh, I can do this.

Speaker B:

Well, I was also like Savannah said, working full time.

Speaker B:

I was also taking two other classes at the same time and thought that I could balance everything.

Speaker B:

Well, I took online chemistry chem1, which granted I had not had chemistry since high school, it which was a long time ago.

Speaker B:

And needless to say, trying to balance all of that while teaching myself chemistry, which I'll be the first to say, math is not my strong suit.

Speaker B:

I have always kind of struggled with it.

Speaker B:

So me not realizing that chemistry is basically a math class too led to me making a D. And that kind of threw off my whole like chemistry schedule because like you have to make a certain grade in chem one to be able to take chem two and I couldn't.

Speaker B:

So that basically put me taking chemistry a year later.

Speaker B:

Because the school that I was taking classes at only offered the chemistry sequence in the evening one time a year, which was in the fall.

Speaker B:

I missed that.

Speaker B:

So I waited a year, took chemistry again.

Speaker B:

And that's what I was saying.

Speaker B:

They no longer offered organic chemistry.

Speaker B:

So I was like, I'll figure out some way to take it, finish it in the fall, like Kim 1 and Kim 2 in the fall.

Speaker B:

And then in the winter was like trying to figure out somewhere to take it.

Speaker B:

I was like, I'll take a break.

Speaker B:

I mean, I've been taking classes for a long time.

Speaker B:

Wanted to.

Speaker A:

This is like this year.

Speaker B:

This is this year.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

,:

Speaker A:

Come January:

Speaker B:

I probably like I had not heard in from for an interview from the school.

Speaker B:

So I was like, probably not gonna get an interview this year.

Speaker B:

So I was like, I need to.

Speaker B:

I only have one pending class left.

Speaker B:

I need to figure out how to take organic chemistry.

Speaker A:

And at this point you had almost every requirement except for organic chemistry or.

Speaker A:

And, or biochemistry.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So most of the schools I was looking at required organic chemistry, a few required biochemistry, and so more so required organic chemistry.

Speaker B:

So I was like, I'll just do that.

Speaker A:

And you'd started to branch out with schools, too.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And so this.

Speaker B:

This cycle, I was like, I'm going to apply to more schools because now I. I feel like I have a better application to submit more complete.

Speaker B:

So I find, like, one of the schools here offered organic chemistry in the fall.

Speaker B:

So, like, right now, when it.

Speaker B:

I would be taking it, and it was during my lunch break and the lab was at night.

Speaker B:

So I was like, I can make this work.

Speaker B:

Like, I wouldn't have to be, like, leaving work too early or too late.

Speaker B:

So when I asked to register for the class, I get this error message that says prereq required.

Speaker B:

So I call the school and come to find out this cl.

Speaker B:

The.

Speaker B:

It was a community college where I took my under or took my prereqs at.

Speaker B:

They felt like they were not up to standards according to email that I received, and just felt like you didn't.

Speaker A:

Get a full grasp.

Speaker B:

So they required anyone who was, like, transferring into this school to take the ACS exam, which is the national chemistry exam that I'm sure some of y' all have taken as a final.

Speaker B:

And so they required you to pass that in order for you to be able to take the next chemistry course of their school.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

And when I found this out, I was also studying for the GRE again, because then I was, well, let's back.

Speaker A:

Up to why you're doing all these.

Speaker A:

So going back to January, you had applied to one school hat in her back.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker A:

And so then we were.

Speaker A:

February.

Speaker B:

Yeah, February.

Speaker B:

So then I were actually at lunch, we were just talking, and I was like, yeah, I'm ready to, like, apply to different schools, I feel like.

Speaker B:

And Savannah was like, have you heard.

Speaker A:

Of this one school?

Speaker A:

They're starting a new program.

Speaker B:

They're starting a new program.

Speaker B:

It's in Atlanta, which is in Georgia, where we live.

Speaker B:

I want.

Speaker B:

I knew I wanted to stay close, definitely in the Southeast.

Speaker B:

So we, like, are eating lunch, and then we look at the requirements for this.

Speaker A:

This is where I get excited in gung ho, because I'm like, oh, my gosh.

Speaker A:

You meet the requirement.

Speaker B:

Yeah, so.

Speaker B:

So this school does not require organic chemistry.

Speaker B:

And I'm like, okay, well.

Speaker A:

And it was like, February.

Speaker A:

And I think their application cycle closed, like, March.

Speaker B:

March 1st.

Speaker A:

March 1st.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And yes, this is, like, the very beginning of February, because I remember I was like, oh, I can log on to caspa and do all this because the other school I applied to did not use CASPA and I had like semi made account on there and like played around but like never fully realized you have to enter in a lot all of your transcript what to power audio.

Speaker B:

Like if you're still like working on that you can do it.

Speaker A:

It takes a long time.

Speaker B:

It does take a long time.

Speaker B:

So I like get everything in with enough time to meet the deadline.

Speaker B:

I probably.

Speaker A:

Yeah, you got it.

Speaker A:

We found out like a Thursday and I think by Monday you had applied.

Speaker B:

So apply to the school.

Speaker B:

I few weeks later get an email saying that I have an interview.

Speaker B:

And I was like oh my gosh, like that is exciting.

Speaker B:

Like that's all you want when you apply is to get an interview.

Speaker B:

Because I like I feel like I've said if they just give me an interview like I know that I can be myself.

Speaker B:

Like I've.

Speaker B:

I know like this is what I want to do and I just want to show them that.

Speaker B:

And it's I feel like easier to do that in person in an interview than trying to make your application stand out.

Speaker B:

So interviewed at school the end of March and I really liked this about the school that I applied to is that they.

Speaker B:

It was a group interview which I really enjoyed.

Speaker B:

I thought I was not going to like it but it like takes the edge off.

Speaker B:

It does take the edge off.

Speaker B:

And I was like afraid cuz I'm like not one to like really speak up sometimes if it's in a big group.

Speaker B:

But they like were like okay Taylor, you answer this question or you go in this order.

Speaker B:

So it wasn't like I had to like fight people to like answer which was nice.

Speaker B:

But at the end they brought you back and they told you like yes you're accepted, no you're not or wait list you.

Speaker B:

And if you don't get accepted or get wait listed they tell you ways to improve upon your application.

Speaker B:

So I end up getting waitlisted which I was fine with.

Speaker B:

Like I was like this is my first interview ever.

Speaker B:

And like it's not a hard.

Speaker B:

No, that's great.

Speaker B:

And they gave me some great feedback.

Speaker B:

Number one was to take the GRE again.

Speaker B:

So I had a 298 the first time I took it which was two years ago.

Speaker B:

I took it on my birthday because I'm just going back to being eager beaver and wanting to get everything done in time to apply for the school.

Speaker B:

I honestly.

Speaker B:

And they asked me in the, in like the interview they were like how much did you actually study?

Speaker B:

And I was like, to be honest, like, not.

Speaker B:

Not too long.

Speaker A:

And they said they wanted 300.

Speaker B:

They wanted at least a 304 or 305.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker B:

So I was like, oh, okay, I guess I need to take the GRE again.

Speaker B:

And they recommended, like, different, varied, like, medical experience.

Speaker B:

Not just because all my experience has been in derm.

Speaker A:

How long have you.

Speaker B:

This job in:

Speaker A:

So eight years.

Speaker B:

Eight years.

Speaker B:

What.

Speaker A:

What was your hour estimate on your application?

Speaker A:

You know.

Speaker B:

No, it was like over 9, 000 hours because I've been working full time.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So that was up front, like two.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So I was working in front and then like 14, 000 as a medical assistant.

Speaker A:

I mean.

Speaker B:

I mean.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

When you've done that several years.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker B:

So, like, that's one thing.

Speaker A:

And your GPAs, we just looked at them.

Speaker A:

Your overall was a 3.51.

Speaker A:

Your overall and science are both a 3.51.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Which.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it's nice.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

And they wanted me to take like.

Speaker B:

They were like.

Speaker B:

And like, you could maybe take another class, too.

Speaker B:

But they didn't.

Speaker B:

In the classes they like, were like, you should take these.

Speaker B:

None of them were organic chemistry.

Speaker A:

But, yeah.

Speaker A:

So to note, they do not require organic chemistry.

Speaker B:

It's not one of their.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And that's like, one thing that I've, like, if I'm honest, like, is frustrating about PA schools is that there's not.

Speaker A:

A standardized at all.

Speaker B:

So, like, I thought I was going to apply to a school in Florida.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I thought I was going to apply to a school in South Carolina.

Speaker B:

And I'm looking and I'm like, oh, like this one school requires, like we were saying, like, biochem and genetics, and this other school requires you to be done with everything by September.

Speaker A:

You had taken other online courses.

Speaker B:

Biology.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Through.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker A:

And like, one school.

Speaker B:

Yeah, one school didn't like.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So it's just.

Speaker B:

That's one thing that is frustrating.

Speaker B:

And so I just recommend doing your research a lot, which is hard and time consuming, but yep.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

So I get waitlisted.

Speaker B:

Like, I'm like, this is a great experience.

Speaker B:

I'm excited.

Speaker B:

Honestly.

Speaker B:

No.

Speaker B:

Didn't think that I would get pulled off of this wait list.

Speaker B:

ared to, like, the next year,:

Speaker B:

So I was like, okay, I'm still going to apply to these other schools.

Speaker B:

This was the end of March that I heard that I was waitlisted.

Speaker B:

And the other.

Speaker B:

So Castro was, like, just about to open in April, and then the other school here, their application opens in July.

Speaker B:

So I signed up for the GRE at the end of June, and I took about a month to study, so.

Speaker B:

And honestly, I really just studied math because my verbal was pretty good last time.

Speaker B:

And I just focused on math and took that again the end of June, made a 310.

Speaker A:

Yay.

Speaker B:

Which was.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Oh, I was so surprised.

Speaker B:

I was like, is that really my score?

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker B:

And I feel like that's one thing too.

Speaker B:

Like, going back to retaking the gre.

Speaker B:

I feel like I did.

Speaker B:

I did better on verbal and math because I feel like I just knew it better.

Speaker B:

It's like, going in, you kind of don't know what to expect.

Speaker B:

And so I would recommend, like, if you have.

Speaker A:

It's an easy thing to improve.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And if you can do it, like, I feel like that was probably one.

Speaker A:

Of the things to me, the gre, well, first of all, I think it's useless.

Speaker A:

But second of all, I think when it comes to applications, it does open doors if you can have a good score.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So that was the end of June, the beginning of July.

Speaker B:

I sent in all my applications to these three other schools that I was going to apply to.

Speaker B:

Going back to organic chemistry.

Speaker B:

That's when I was, like, trying to sign up for organic chemistry in the fall because I was like, okay, I haven't heard back from this other school yet.

Speaker B:

I need to take organic chemistry for these three other schools I'm applying to, to be done in December.

Speaker B:

And that's when I found out I had to take the ACS exam.

Speaker B:

And this was, like, two weeks before I was taking the gre.

Speaker B:

And they were like, you can it now.

Speaker B:

And I was like, I'm already studying for one really hard test.

Speaker B:

Like, I can't study again.

Speaker B:

So I took the GRE the end of June, like I said, and then took the ACS exam for Chem 2, like, three or four weeks later.

Speaker B:

So I spent, like, four weeks kind of trying, attempting to study chemistry and take this test, and I pass it, which is, like, so exciting.

Speaker A:

I want to take it.

Speaker A:

I would not pass.

Speaker B:

At least it's multiple choice.

Speaker B:

So, like, a lot of it is more like, just concepts than, like, actually working stuff out, which I like.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

So I took that August 2nd, pass it the next.

Speaker B:

I had a week, I think, before I had to, like, pay tuition for the class and, like, get everything signed up and registered.

Speaker B:

So I did that Friday Two Fridays ago was when I was gonna, like, pay my tuition, go get my student id, all this stuff.

Speaker B:

Well, I get a call from an Atlanta number that afternoon from South College that I interviewed back in March, pulling me off the wait list.

Speaker B:

They got my GRE score back and they offered me a seat in this class.

Speaker B:

And I was like, okay.

Speaker B:

I was like, how long do I have to give you an answer?

Speaker B:

And it was Friday.

Speaker B:

And she was like, 24 hours.

Speaker B:

And I was like, okay, so at least had the weekend to, like, process everything, because that's a big change.

Speaker B:

It's a huge change pretty quickly.

Speaker B:

And I'm still, like, trying to process it because.

Speaker B:

Okay, so I found out and then, like, school starts in seven weeks.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Like, I always thought that I was, like, gonna know months in advance and be able to, like, take off for, like, a really long time and do all this stuff and, like, have money saved up and, like, have.

Speaker B:

Have a plan.

Speaker B:

It's funny.

Speaker A:

So.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And it's just funny how, like, things.

Speaker A:

Work out, which is funny because we joked about this.

Speaker B:

We did.

Speaker B:

I was like, I'm gonna go get an interview with a school here.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Like, and get last minute.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

I mean, you never.

Speaker B:

I was like, you never know.

Speaker B:

Like, and you never know.

Speaker B:

So if you're on a waitlist right now, like, don't give up hope, like, and see how you can improve and.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Improve upon your application or if they give you recommendations, do them.

Speaker B:

I think that's what I learned.

Speaker B:

Like, if they tell you to do something, do it.

Speaker A:

There's a reason they're telling you.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

I mean, it's not just them, like, making something up.

Speaker A:

Like, they want you there.

Speaker A:

They just want to see some effort.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And I think, like, yeah, they would reward the effort that was put in.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So I just got accepted to PA school and I will start in, like, six weeks.

Speaker A:

Yay.

Speaker A:

Okay.

Speaker A:

And so here's a conversation Taylor and I have been having because one of her things initially was like, well, like, I'm going to have to move.

Speaker A:

This school is more exciting, expensive.

Speaker A:

Is that a good decision?

Speaker A:

or cheaper that starts in May:

Speaker A:

But I mean, looking at it financially, when you're going to graduate, eight months sooner at the minimum than you would if you waited.

Speaker A:

And then that's crazy that a salary with that can, like, cover a year Of PA school, Obviously you have expenses, whatever, but, like, yeah, it just.

Speaker B:

And I think, like, so, of course, like, the second.

Speaker B:

The first call I made, it was to my mom, and then the second call I made was to Savannah because I was like, I just.

Speaker A:

I was sleeping.

Speaker A:

I thought she just had an interview.

Speaker A:

Really excited.

Speaker A:

I was like, all right, where are you going to live?

Speaker B:

What are you going to do?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And I'm like, oh, my gosh.

Speaker B:

Until we figure out, like, I think a lot of my, like, hesitation was just fear.

Speaker B:

And it's like, you're going to have those fears wherever you go to school.

Speaker B:

Like, because PA School is an unknown.

Speaker B:

Like, right.

Speaker B:

I've prepared.

Speaker B:

And I also think, okay, guys, this has been three years of me trying to get to PA school, and I have not let myself actually think, like, oh, my gosh.

Speaker B:

Like, there's actually school.

Speaker B:

Like, I'm about to start grad school.

Speaker B:

Like, I just think about this whole process of getting there and not realizing, like, oh, my gosh.

Speaker B:

So I think there's, like, a lot of fear in that.

Speaker B:

And just like, oh, my gosh, I have to move to a new place.

Speaker B:

And, yes, like, money, but, like, luckily, I don't have undergrad loans.

Speaker B:

And I'm like, okay.

Speaker B:

It's like an, like, the return on investment.

Speaker B:

I feel like it's gonna.

Speaker A:

And looking back, like, period of time.

Speaker B:

And everything for, like, all the schools I applied to and as many times as many classes I took.

Speaker B:

Like, I'm like, I don't want to tally up the amount of money that was spent, but I also want to.

Speaker B:

But then I also think of it as, like, investing in myself.

Speaker B:

Like, I.

Speaker B:

And, like, if this is what I want to do, like, it.

Speaker B:

I would be dumb to say no, right?

Speaker B:

Like, there are a lot of.

Speaker B:

And I think with any, like, getting into any school, there's going to be those logistics that are scary or unknown, but you have to work through them and, like, just realize, like, if your goal is to be a pa, like, you're gonna be a pa. Well, I.

Speaker A:

Also think the part about your story, too, like, we talk about, I think just in general, and this has been kind of been a lot of my conversation, no matter what route you take to become a pa, whether you're a traditional, non traditional, whatever, they're gonna be sacrifices, whether that's time, money, and I think for you, it was time.

Speaker A:

Like, yeah, she couldn't come to some of our, like, friend outings and events because she was studying or she had class and, I mean, trips and Things.

Speaker B:

I mean, because I love to travel.

Speaker B:

And so it was, like, hard to be like, okay, like, I can't do that.

Speaker A:

Right?

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And I think, too, like, I think especially, like, this summer, I.

Speaker B:

And, like, when I was, like, trying to take the GRE and then found out I had to take this other test, like, I feel like my story has been, like, jumping through one hoop after another.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker B:

Because when I took.

Speaker B:

When I tried to sign up for chemistry, the first time I had to take, they were like, you don't have a math prereq.

Speaker B:

So last summer, I had to study to take the CLEP exam for college algebra.

Speaker B:

So I feel like.

Speaker B:

Like, my story's been, like, something.

Speaker B:

One hoop after another to jump through.

Speaker B:

And I was just, like, frustrated one day, and I was like, why can't it be easy?

Speaker B:

And I look at, like, undergrad students, and I'm like, I am so jealous of y' all that, like, know what you want to do and, like, have everything.

Speaker B:

Like, have all your classes done.

Speaker B:

And, like.

Speaker B:

But then I'm like, okay, they have to sacrifice.

Speaker B:

Like, you have to find ways to get healthcare experience in that and shadowing.

Speaker B:

But I was just kind of like, why can't it be easy?

Speaker B:

And then I had to come to the realization that, like, life is not always easy.

Speaker B:

And I feel like I've learned so much through the hard things, too.

Speaker B:

Like, it's grown me as a person.

Speaker B:

And I think, too, like, I'm in my 30s now.

Speaker B:

Like, I feel like I've just learned so much more about myself that's gonna make me, like, a better PA student.

Speaker B:

I feel like just being mature and, like, just knowing myself better.

Speaker B:

Like, I study better in the morning.

Speaker B:

Like, I'm not afraid to say no either.

Speaker B:

Like, I know.

Speaker B:

I know my limits.

Speaker B:

I'm learning my limits more, so.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker A:

And all those are important things for PA School, too.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

But I'm excited.

Speaker B:

Am too.

Speaker B:

The more I think about it, the more I'm, like, really excited.

Speaker B:

And I'm also excited, like, because I've been taking all these classes, and now I, like, actually get to learn stuff that I want to learn.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And not, like, chemistry.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

You can tell I have a really, like, may not be a love hate relationship with chemistry.

Speaker B:

It's probably, like, a hate, hate, hate, hate.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So I'm just excited to, like, do that and also, like, just to focus my time fully.

Speaker B:

Like, I feel like I've, like, been balancing, like, three different parts of myself from, like, my.

Speaker B:

My real life and work and school.

Speaker B:

So now that I can, like, fully focus on one thing and not have.

Speaker A:

To, you'll probably feel like you have free time again.

Speaker B:

Oh, I'm like, oh, my God.

Speaker B:

For like a minute.

Speaker B:

Yeah, for like a minute.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

But so.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So I'm excited.

Speaker B:

So I'm excited all of y' all that are in the middle of this just, like, arrangement.

Speaker B:

Yes, there is.

Speaker B:

And, like, I kind of felt it.

Speaker B:

And then, like, I'm like, oh, my gosh.

Speaker B:

Like, it really is like.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And it happens.

Speaker B:

Like, I've learned a lot about timing, too.

Speaker B:

And just when, like, the Lord's timing is good, like, it's gonna happen when it's supposed to happen.

Speaker B:

So just encouragement for all of y' all that are in the middle of it.

Speaker B:

Feel like you're head is in over water or you're jumping through one more hoop.

Speaker B:

One more, like, person to shadow or, like, one more class to take.

Speaker B:

Like, stick with it.

Speaker B:

I think I've also, like, learned the like, like, hard work.

Speaker B:

It does pay off, like, those sacrifices.

Speaker B:

So just stick with it.

Speaker A:

And just.

Speaker A:

Everyone's story is different.

Speaker A:

Very different stories we have figured out.

Speaker A:

We are very different people, like, in general, if any of your enneagram.

Speaker A:

People.

Speaker A:

People.

Speaker A:

Taylor taught me about this.

Speaker A:

She's a nine and I'm a three.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And we just are very, very different in how we approach things and how we think about things.

Speaker A:

And so I think that's been interesting in this because, like, I would do things completely different than her, and she just thinks different than me.

Speaker A:

And I have to try not to be pushy and.

Speaker A:

But it's like, it's all good.

Speaker B:

It is good.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

It'll be interesting to see how that makes us different providers.

Speaker A:

I know.

Speaker B:

It's very interesting.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker A:

But it's fun.

Speaker B:

It is fun.

Speaker A:

I'm going to miss Taylor, but that's fine.

Speaker A:

I'll still see.

Speaker B:

We're still gonna be friends.

Speaker B:

I'm gonna be like, now, instead of, like, calling you about school and stuff or, like, I'm gonna be like, what do you do with this class?

Speaker B:

How did you study?

Speaker A:

That'll be so fun.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Well, that's Taylor.

Speaker A:

Tay the pas.

Speaker A:

Yeah, Pas.

Speaker A:

Tay the future PAS story and amazing.

Speaker A:

I know.

Speaker B:

We'll have to check in later.

Speaker A:

Yeah, we'll check in, like, after your first.

Speaker A:

Well, they're on the quarter.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Oh, my gosh.

Speaker B:

I'm also, like, really excited to have, like, a student schedule again and have, like, like a really long break for Christmas.

Speaker B:

I told my husband I want to.

Speaker A:

Go back to school, and he said, no, maybe one day.

Speaker A:

All right, we have to get back to work.

Speaker B:

We did that during lunch, and now we're.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I have all the time to talk, but.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker A:

Bye, guys.

Speaker B:

Bye.

Speaker A:

So, anyone who is about to start at South College, you are getting a gem of a classmate in Taylor, and I am so, so excited for her, and it's gonna be really cool.

Speaker A:

I mean, we've been colleagues as co workers, but it's gonna be different.

Speaker A:

You know, we can go to PA Conferences together now.

Speaker A:

And like I said, I'm just really, really excited for her.

Speaker A:

So show Taylor social media.

Speaker A:

I'm posting about her today on Instagram, and as much as I'm going to miss her, she's only gonna be a couple hours away, and I know I'm gonna see her still, so.

Speaker A:

All right, let me think.

Speaker A:

Okay, so next week, I have a big personal announcement for you guys, and I've got some cool interviews coming up, some questions, some from you guys, and then anything you want to hear about, shoot me an email, leave it in a review, send me a message on Instagram, let me know so that we can make sure all of your questions are getting answered, because it is interview season, y'.

Speaker A:

All.

Speaker B:

All right, bye, guys.

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