Accepting Jesus as our Lord and Savior is only the start, why do we say
There must be a hunger to know Him, to seek Him, to have that
personal relationship with Him on a daily basis.
• Salvation is the starting gate. Reading, and abiding in His word to
find a further revelation of Him is another step.
• Paul had an initial meeting with Jesus on the road to Damascus,
but in Philippians he says: “That I may know him and the power
of His resurrection.”
• God is Love, and that is to be our expression to this earth.
• Psalms 51 “Create in me a clean heart, oh God.”
• Start where you are and seek the Lord, by opening your heart.
• Ask Him to show you what to do, how to do it. Then do it.
And without faith it is impossible to please him, for he who comes to
God must believe that He is, and that he is a rewarder of those who seek
And He said to them, “Why are you so timid? How is it that you have
Draw near to God and He will draw near to you.
“And everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does not act upon
them will be like a foolish man, who build his house upon the sand.
Looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great
God and Savior, Christ Jesus;
For today in the city of David there has been born for you a savior, who
is Christ the Lord.
13. “But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes He will guide you into all
the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He
hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.
14. “He shall glorify Me; for He shall take of Mine, and shall disclose it
1 John 4:7
Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone
who loves is born of God and knows God.
A Psalm of David. A prayer for Pardon.
“Return to your house and describe what great things God has done for
you.” And he went away, proclaiming throughout the whole city what
great things Jesus had done for him.
• If you are saved, you accept Christ as your savior and Lord, That’s
really the starting gate.
• If you read it (the bible) and you find a revelation of the Lord, you
are reading it right.
• Once you become a Christian your mindset has to change, you
have to love.
• And hey, the scripture jumps off of the page and where does it
land? In my heart.
• Paul knew that there was more to who the Lord was than what
was first experienced on the road to Damascus.
• The Lord knows exactly what is in our hearts.
To find an honest relationship with God the Father, Jesus the Son, and
the Holy Spirit beyond simple salvation. To know His love for us and
Ron: 0:30 Hello Podcasters I am Ron your host and on this
podcast the family discusses what comes after our initial Salvation
experience. Are there some things that we can do to initiate our growth
and maturity in our relationship to God? I am praying that those who
hear this podcast can open your heart to some of the steps that the Holy
Spirit is revealing today to God’s sons.
Allan: 1:00 This is how you have a relationship with the Lord.
It is that basic relationship that needs to be identified for so many. It is
no good to just accept Christ. There is more to who they are than just
believing that He exists. Maybe we should talk about the very basic
fundamental. What is the next step once you accept Christ as your
Savior or Lord and Savior which every way you did it. What is the next
step. If you’re just going to exist based on that, yeah you will be saved
but to what point. People are asking about healings. There asking for
miracles and there is a reason why they are not working today. It is
because people are not making the next steps. You know they’re just
expecting you know they will pray Oh God please heal this, person. Oh
God please heal the nation. Oh God please do this and you are telling
God what you think He should do rather than listening to hear what He
has to say and then expressing what He is saying. What His heart is at
Ron: 2:20 If you’re saved, you accept Christ as your Savior
and Lord, you don’t stop there. That’s really the starting gate in a walk
with God. From that point there needs to be a preparation of your heart
in seeking the Lord in definitely in abiding in His Word. And letting
that hunger increase in you. You may start out 5 minutes a day praying
in the Spirit or exercising tongues if you have that gift. Maybe you will
spend 5 minutes a day in the Word. I know it is just a beginning. There
has to be the foundation laid where there is a hunger and a pursuit every
day. I am a new Christian or a Christian. It doesn’t have to be a new
Christian. But I am not pursuing the Lord and yet I am praying for
miracles and signs and wonders. It is not going to happen because the
Lord, is not Santa Clause. He is requiring things of His people. He is
requiring a maturity. He is requiring a dedication. He is requiring a
depth of perception, revelation, all these things that don’t happen just
because you want them. They happen because you walk with Him
everyday and it is an exercise, it’s a drive, it’s a hunger and if you don’t
have that then you need to ask for it. Abiding in His Word, it’s so
important because His Word is where He connects His presence and in
His presence is how you get led. I want to be led. Get into His Word
where He can speak to you daily, and He can impart His nature daily and
He will. If you’re faithful He will.
Allan: 4:15 That is the real important part Ron because there
are so many different ways to read the scriptures. And I think the real
important one is, if you read it and you find a revelation of the Lord in it.
You’re probably reading it right. The Holy Spirit was given to teach us
and as we read and search for Him in the Scriptures. Don’t read it like a
story book. Don’t read it like it’s a fact book that you are trying to prove
a point. Don’t do that. Find the Lord in it because it is His expression to
the earth so that is what we want.
Ed: 4:53 The one thing is actually once you become a
Christian is that your mindset has to change. Because now you have to
love. If you don’t have that love and that love is an action. You start
acting on it with other people. You’ve got to love the people of the
world. You know, you don’t have to do the same things that their doing.
But the love that has to come from us, comes from God. And that is
what is going to change the whole earth. So, it is not a passive thing and
that unfortunately most Christians think that it is. If you cannot love
your neighbor how can you love God?
Dale: 5:37 I think one of the things that we’ve got to find is a
new definition for these words. And it starts, yes, with the definition
what does it means to love. And like what Allan was talking about
revelation. We need to have a new definition of revelation. A revelation
of God is just that. He reveals Himself to you and if that revelation is
true you’re going to be exposed to Him. Revelation is a relationship
with the Father. I would say, if I am studying the scriptures and I come
across an experience from reading that passage or that chapter. God
revealed Himself to me in that word. When He reveals Himself to you
He is initiating an experience, He is initiating a relationship and what is
your response. Psalm 51 is probably is the most complete simple
teaching how to have a relationship with the Father. My goodness I want
that. And it is amazing that one Psalm how much is in it. You can take
that thing and live in it and walk out the will of God for your life and be
pleasing to Him. That is the message that I would like to see this
podcast get out. Is an intimate one on one relationship with the Father
that is pleasing to Him. That we become a delight to Him. That yes you
can walk in completeness. You can finish. It is not just a throw it up in
the air and hope and pray that something will happen. That basic tenant
laid out in Psalm 51 is where we live. I open up the scriptures and I say
create in me a clean heart oh God. And hey the scripture jumps off the
page and where does it land. It lands in my heart, and I receive it. And I
thank Him for it because He revealed Himself to me and He gave me a
part of Himself that is mine.
Allan: 8:22 I really believe what we are talking about here is
what Paul’s drive was. That I may know Him and the power of His
resurrection. We all know that when He was Saul, if you will, he had
his salvation experience right. A little bit more intense than most
anybody else in the world. However, even though he had that personal
meeting it was not enough. He knew that there was more to who the
Lord was than what his first meeting revealed to him.
Ron: 9:00 You don’t come by that attitude as a light follower
of the Lord. In fact, I don’t think you come by that attitude on any
human level. It starts out with opening up to the Lord and let the Holy
Spirit walk you into it day by day. Because you’re talking about a
dedication that is not common to man but probably very seldom found in
Allan: 9:26 If at all.
Ron: 9:27 It is so anti human, and anti-carnal mind and antihuman nature, but that doesn’t mean it is impossible. It just means you
start where you are at and that is always my mantra in the morning. I
start whether I feel good, where I feel bad, where I wake up happy,
where I wake up sad. It doesn’t matter. I start where I am at and begin
to seek the Lord. And anybody can do that. You just simply open your
heart, and you start seeking God. To me that gets rid of all the excuses.
No one is going to come before the face of God and said it was too hard,
I didn’t know how to do it. He makes the way so simple. You just have
to want to. And it is a day by day walk so you may walk one day
wanting to. The next day not so much, that’s you. That is not Him. He
is still there in His fullness. It is up to you to open your spirit to Him
every day. And to me it is exciting because I am realizing first off it is
not even up to me as I continue with my walk with God I am finding out
that I may have started out with a lot of vim and vigor and a lot of
zealousness, and I think most Christians do, new Christians, they start
with real zealousness and that begins to change because as you are in
His word, He starts transforming you and it becomes, His drive, His
faith, His hunger. It is a pretty imperceptible change but what ends up
happening is you come into a revelation that Christ dwells within me.
His word dwells within me. Christ dwells within me and as I connect in
daily with the Lord in His word, in worship, He takes over my life more
and more. And it is really exciting because there is an initiative that we
can take. It is not just I will sit on my butt and the Lord going to lead
me, nah, it won’t happen. But if I take and initiative every day to
approach Him then He starts working His Lordship and His will and
everything in me. His worship, the cleansing that Dale is talking about.
You know, that doesn’t happen because I want it to happen or because I
am a good person, or I am going to worship, you know clean up my life
or any of that. We are not going to get glory for a blessed thing. It is
initiative we take by faith, and He takes over.Deborah::
us, and the Lord knows exactly what is in our hearts. You accept the
Lord, and the Holy Spirit comes into your life, you want to know more,
so you open up more and the way you open up is you ask. You ask the
Lord to show Himself to you. Ask Him to show you what you are to do.
And how you are to relate to Him and start doing it. Baby steps, more
and more that you do it the easier it will become. He requires more of
your time, requires more of your attention because He loves you and He
wants to know you. He wants you to know Him. It is all apart of our
walk with God.Outro::