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Are you a HOPE MAKER with Jenny Mulks
Episode 3221st June 2023 • Shining Brightly • Howard Brown
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HOPE is an AMAZING! A four-letter WORD and the FUEL to get you through tough times! In Episode 32 of the Shining Brightly Podcast Show (links in the comments) - ARE YOU a HOPE MAKER? My amazing guest is Jenny Mulks, a mom, cancer survivor, TEDx speaker and the founder of Along Comes Hope to help children with cancer and their families. She explains her driving passion to “CAN-SERVE” that she shares far and widein her coaching practice. Plus, we get a visit from “Hope the Bear”! Please watch, listen, download, share and review this INSPIRATIONAL show! Consider a donation to Along Comes Hope to support their mission. Keep Shining Always!

Mentioned Resources

www.AlongComesHope.com

www.JennyMulks.com

www.YouWillChangeTheWorld.com/instructors/jenny-mulks

EMAIL - Hello@JennyMulks.com

Phone: (888)-802-HOPE

About the guest –

Jenny Mulks Jenny Mulks is a mom, cancer coach, TEDx speaker, international author, patient advocate, philanthropist, and cancer thriver! She is the Founder and CEO of Along Comes Hope®, nonprofit organization serving children with cancer. Their mission is to provide service through financial assistance, emotional support, and advocacy for change, awareness and education. Jenny had a personal battle in 2006 with a rare and aggressive cancer called Cholangiocarcinoma, giving her only a short 6-12 months left to survive! Thriving against many odds, not only did she survive and thrive, it changed her entire life and career! She had previously been 14 years in Pharmaceuticals and a Regional Manager. After her miraculous healing with cancer, she left the corporate world to serve children with cancer. Then, she became an accidental Cancer Coach to adults! She began getting calls from across the country from newly diagnosed patients and caregivers for support and guidance. Because of this, she created the “Circle of Hope Cancer Support” guiding those touched by cancer with emotional, spiritual, physical, social, environmental and financial awareness and all things wellness. Jenny’s virtual sessions and guidance at the Circle of Hope Cancer Support serves all ages. AND…..It’s Free to all Along Comes Hope families of children with cancer.

About the Host:

Howard Brown is a best-selling author, award-winning international speaker, Silicon Valley entrepreneur, interfaith peacemaker, and a two-time stage IV cancer survivor. He is also a sought-after speaker and consultant for corporate businesses, nonprofits, congregations, and community groups. Howard has co-founded two social networks that were the first to connect religious communities around the world. He is a nationally known patient advocate and “cancer whisperer” to many families. Howard, his wife Lisa, and daughter Emily currently reside in Michigan, and his happy place is on the basketball court.

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Howard Brown:

Welcome to the Shining Brightly Show. It's your

Howard Brown:

host with the most a maestro of the mic. Howard Brown. So glad

Howard Brown:

to have you here. Listen, the sun is shining outside and the

Howard Brown:

sun is shining on this podcast because I have the amazing, the

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wonderful, Jenny Hope Mulks with me today. And you don't

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understand how thrilled She is a friend, a mentor and a coach

Howard Brown:

Jenny Welcome, welcome, welcome.

Jenny Hope Mulks:

Wow, what a great introduction, Howard,

Jenny Hope Mulks:

thank you so much.

Howard Brown:

So Jenny is the friend across the country that

Howard Brown:

we've never met. But I feel like I know, I've known her for

Howard Brown:

years. And we're going to tell you that story as well. But let

Howard Brown:

me tell you just a little bit about Jenny. And then she's

Howard Brown:

going to fill in some of the blanks. But Jenny, first and

Howard Brown:

foremost is a mom. She is a cancer coach, and a amazing TEDx

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speaker, international author, a patient advocate, philanthropist

Howard Brown:

and cancer thriver. But how we met is that she's the founder

Howard Brown:

and CEO of along comes hope. That's a nonprofit that serves

Howard Brown:

children with cancer, and their families. And their mission is

Howard Brown:

to provide a service and some financial assistance, emotional

Howard Brown:

support, advocacy, change and awareness through education. And

Howard Brown:

she helps families I mean, who does that it's beautiful. And

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Jenny had her own personal battle in 2006, with a rare and

Howard Brown:

aggressive cancer called now I'm going to pronounce this probably

Howard Brown:

wrong, but it's Colegio carcinoma, they do it right. Oh,

Howard Brown:

I did, giving her a short six months, six to 12 months to live

Howard Brown:

and survive. So we're both survivors. It's just awesome.

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And so thriving, as many odds she survived and thrived. And

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she changed her entire life and her career, and she'll tell you

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about that.

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She previously been a pharmaceutical rep and a

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regional manager. And after her miraculous healing, she left the

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corporate world to serve children with cancer. And that's

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just so noble. She's become the accidental cancer coach to

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adults as well and many families. So, Jenny, you have

Howard Brown:

really inspired me. And I just, we met just by mutual admiration

Howard Brown:

society, because I was going through treatment, and I had

Howard Brown:

found you and I'd reached out and the first thing I want to do

Howard Brown:

is just say, thank you, because you supported me, we've got to

Howard Brown:

know each other and all of a sudden in the mail, I get hope

Howard Brown:

the bear can you can help make an appearance.

Jenny Hope Mulks:

Did you mean you got somebody like this?

Howard Brown:

I did, And so for those that are listening, Jenny

Howard Brown:

is holding up the cutest cuddly little teddy bear with a heart

Howard Brown:

on it. Okay, and it actually has a paw that says a message what

Howard Brown:

does it say? Love? I hope is that took the bear, right? And

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then as a message I have my hope to bear as well. And she puts a

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personalised message to each person each child or adult that

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gets it and you know, even me okay at age 50 got a bear and

Howard Brown:

boy does that mean a lot. So I got hope the bear I have hope

Howard Brown:

and hope sits in in our bedroom on our bed and we love it and it

Howard Brown:

means a lot because I think of you all the time and I think of

Howard Brown:

the inspiration that you provide to that. So tell us a little bit

Howard Brown:

more would I leave out from from your great bio.

Jenny Hope Mulks:

Well, I love that you connect me with hope. I

Jenny Hope Mulks:

mean, what a huge honour right? To have an inspiring word like

Jenny Hope Mulks:

that that people go oh, that makes me think of you and that

Jenny Hope Mulks:

you have hoped the bear on your bed that tells me one that you

Jenny Hope Mulks:

keep hoping your heart every day but to you make your bed and

Jenny Hope Mulks:

that's

Howard Brown:

that's I do do that I'm a little discipline.

Howard Brown:

You know, Mama Nancy Brown said hospital corner. So I do I do?

Jenny Hope Mulks:

Absolutely. I get you. What did you leave out

Jenny Hope Mulks:

about me? Well, I probably the only thing that really long bio

Jenny Hope Mulks:

was that you left out that I wanted to be a whale trainer

Jenny Hope Mulks:

when I was in college, and I applied to SeaWorld. And they

Jenny Hope Mulks:

didn't call me back.

Howard Brown:

Oh, wow, that's a secret. I did not know that

Howard Brown:

Shamu is gonna get the get a coach named Jenny.

Jenny Hope Mulks:

I was like, like Coach whales, and then I

Jenny Hope Mulks:

coached volleyball, high school and college and then I'm like,

Jenny Hope Mulks:

why not coach whales. I guess I'm gonna coach cancer patients

Jenny Hope Mulks:

instead.

Howard Brown:

Well, first of all those that are just listening,

Howard Brown:

if you're viewing on the video, you'll see that she's wearing a

Howard Brown:

beautiful t shirt that show me your hope. So show me your hope.

Howard Brown:

And also also talk a little bit about the Circle of Hope.

Howard Brown:

Because that's the thing I think I missed.

Jenny Hope Mulks:

Yeah, so Circle of Hope is on the newer

Jenny Hope Mulks:

side. So since you and I have been catching up, we are in the

Jenny Hope Mulks:

early stages of getting it off the ground. So as you know

Jenny Hope Mulks:

there's only so much time in the day and when you are working

Jenny Hope Mulks:

with cancer patients and caregivers and the one on one

Jenny Hope Mulks:

coaching. There's not enough time to be able to help and

Jenny Hope Mulks:

serve everybody that needs help. So the Circle of Hope is a

Jenny Hope Mulks:

virtual platform that is free for all of my along comes hope

Jenny Hope Mulks:

families and it has access to everything wellness. So I have

Jenny Hope Mulks:

other coaches on there that specialise in, say yoga and

Jenny Hope Mulks:

meditation and trauma, yoga, grief, nutrition, tapping, Heart

Jenny Hope Mulks:

Math. So there's all kinds of different modalities of easing

Jenny Hope Mulks:

your angst, as well as gaining additional knowledge on how to

Jenny Hope Mulks:

treat ourselves better how to work through times that are

Jenny Hope Mulks:

challenging, and find that that peaceful space, I also am

Jenny Hope Mulks:

certified This is did not make it on my my bio. I'm a certified

Jenny Hope Mulks:

Cancer Care minister. And another one of my coaches that

Jenny Hope Mulks:

he's actually I coached him. And now he's coaching with me, we've

Jenny Hope Mulks:

got certified together in cancer care ministry, through city of

Jenny Hope Mulks:

hope.

Howard Brown:

Isn't that cool? not know that. That's new. So

Howard Brown:

oh, that's outstanding.

Jenny Hope Mulks:

We're bringing the spiritual aspect onto it. So

Jenny Hope Mulks:

it's a 24/7 platform, that you can go in and be a part of live

Jenny Hope Mulks:

fireside chats with myself, and whoever we have on is that guest

Jenny Hope Mulks:

coach that day, or one of our, our home coaches. Or you can go

Jenny Hope Mulks:

back in and have access to the archives as long as you'd like.

Jenny Hope Mulks:

Down the road, we also will be providing services that are

Jenny Hope Mulks:

discounted for anything wellness. So if you think of

Jenny Hope Mulks:

anything wellness, that's where we're headed with a circle of

Jenny Hope Mulks:

hope. And it's really two things that I thought of from when I

Jenny Hope Mulks:

had cancer and that my mom had cancer, you know, you know how

Jenny Hope Mulks:

it is you get on Google, and they start going down into these

Jenny Hope Mulks:

rabbit holes, and how much time it takes. So it's to try to

Jenny Hope Mulks:

reduce misinformation and myths and give you a one stop shop to

Jenny Hope Mulks:

be able to just think of yourself and all things

Jenny Hope Mulks:

wellness. Let your medical team be your medical team, I will be

Jenny Hope Mulks:

your circle of hope.

Howard Brown:

It's beautiful. And I want to tell you that I've

Howard Brown:

heard you use you know, because I've watched you speak before

Howard Brown:

and we've known each other now, at least seven years since I got

Howard Brown:

diagnosed and you created a word called can serve. Tell me the

Howard Brown:

origins of that and how that all came about.

Jenny Hope Mulks:

Well, that came about in the very early

Jenny Hope Mulks:

stages of my cancer diagnosis. What I was realising is when you

Jenny Hope Mulks:

listen to the power of words that they have on you, they can

Jenny Hope Mulks:

really impact you or to have energy words have emotion. Words

Jenny Hope Mulks:

have truth or lies, right. So when they told me I had six to

Jenny Hope Mulks:

12 months to live, I was being a good girl and obeying the

Jenny Hope Mulks:

doctors, I could literally feel my life force was diminishing.

Jenny Hope Mulks:

And I learned from being strong and working out five days a

Jenny Hope Mulks:

week, at least two bedrooms very quickly. And I could feel my

Jenny Hope Mulks:

light going out. And I was realising holy cow, I took that

Jenny Hope Mulks:

cancer that dark and limitless and scary word that's, you know,

Jenny Hope Mulks:

we were very handcuffing. And instead I'm like, alright, we

Jenny Hope Mulks:

need to flip this around. And when I when we created along

Jenny Hope Mulks:

comes hope I realised how I took cancer and moved it to can serve

Jenny Hope Mulks:

two powerful words, instead of these limiting this limiting

Jenny Hope Mulks:

word of cancer. So can serve because we can serve one

Jenny Hope Mulks:

another. And I truly believe we're here to do that. During

Jenny Hope Mulks:

our time of healing, we are receiving service most often,

Jenny Hope Mulks:

right. And that's hard to do. Sometimes it'd be a graceful

Jenny Hope Mulks:

recipient is a gift to those giving. But when we can also be

Jenny Hope Mulks:

in service and an acting in doing we can serve we're, we're

Jenny Hope Mulks:

serving, whether we're receiving or we're giving, that's what we

Jenny Hope Mulks:

need to remember,

Howard Brown:

there's so much synergy between us and you know,

Howard Brown:

as both being, you know, patients, survivors, advocates,

Howard Brown:

now you're added minister to the title. And you're right, there

Howard Brown:

is a darkness. And I think you can give that darkness, some

Howard Brown:

space, but you can't let it dominate you or else you know,

Howard Brown:

depression and bad things can happen. You need to be able to

Howard Brown:

take the light of others and help them lift you up. And

Howard Brown:

that's where we you and I are just like in lockstep there, you

Howard Brown:

know I wrote a book that basically is that you know, a

Howard Brown:

resilient guide to living a life to lift up yourself and lift up

Howard Brown:

others. So you and I are in lockstep there. So you, you now

Howard Brown:

have taken that and you are use that in your cancer coaching,

Jenny Hope Mulks:

correct? Well, like I said, in the bio cancer

Jenny Hope Mulks:

coaching became accidental, right was and I'm sure you get

Jenny Hope Mulks:

this all the time too, because no one I was a regional manager

Jenny Hope Mulks:

in pharma. Before that I was a sales representative. I'd been

Jenny Hope Mulks:

in pharma for a long time many disease states. So you know, you

Jenny Hope Mulks:

know a lot about medications. You know a lot about disease

Jenny Hope Mulks:

states, you understand clinical studies, but you also understand

Jenny Hope Mulks:

the medical system and how to manoeuvre around it through it

Jenny Hope Mulks:

when you're getting there. wall after wall with managed care and

Jenny Hope Mulks:

trying to get access to, to facilities that you know what's

Jenny Hope Mulks:

gonna be eight to 10 weeks. So I was getting these calls, and it

Jenny Hope Mulks:

became very overwhelming and I was realising Wow, they're all

Jenny Hope Mulks:

in the same exact position I was in from the beginning of, okay,

Jenny Hope Mulks:

we got to put our boots on, let's get to work figure this

Jenny Hope Mulks:

out. And so that's what cancer coaching does is it really helps

Jenny Hope Mulks:

us to align. Instead of just going into all the data and

Jenny Hope Mulks:

details, it's aligning the mind and body with the Spirit.

Jenny Hope Mulks:

Because when you're frenetic, your body's not going to be

Jenny Hope Mulks:

healing and sleeping and doing what you need to do to rid

Jenny Hope Mulks:

yourself of this, of this cancer. So that's where I come

Jenny Hope Mulks:

in, because I've been on both sides of the fence as a

Jenny Hope Mulks:

caregiver, and a patient.

Howard Brown:

Right, and a pharmaceutical rep. So you have

Howard Brown:

the medical backing as well. So when did the long come soaps

Howard Brown:

start? And also you started you focused on families and

Howard Brown:

children?

Jenny Hope Mulks:

Correct. That started 10 years ago, almost to

Jenny Hope Mulks:

the date. So April 1 2013. Yes, so God put it upon my heart,

Jenny Hope Mulks:

what kept being a calling a calling a calling to the

Jenny Hope Mulks:

children to serve the children. And when I was at MD Anderson

Jenny Hope Mulks:

Cancer Centre in Houston, one of my rooms overlooked these two

Jenny Hope Mulks:

tall, tall buildings across the way that illuminated at night,

Jenny Hope Mulks:

and it was Children's Hospital. And I just my little boy was

Jenny Hope Mulks:

four at the time. And today, he's 21, literally today.

Jenny Hope Mulks:

Congratulations, happy birthday. I know, thank you. And I

Jenny Hope Mulks:

couldn't imagine that being my child in that in that cold

Jenny Hope Mulks:

building with the glass walls and fighting for his life. Like

Jenny Hope Mulks:

I couldn't imagine that. So I really, I know that that's one

Jenny Hope Mulks:

of the reasons that God put that on my heart because I have such

Jenny Hope Mulks:

a great empathy as an adult going through it. I couldn't

Jenny Hope Mulks:

imagine the kids.

Howard Brown:

Ya know, it's hard. I, when I was 23, still

Howard Brown:

young onset, I would go sit with the kids in the paediatrics in

Howard Brown:

the Jimmy fund in Boston at Dana Farber Cancer Institute, too,

Howard Brown:

because I didn't have a place for me, either old or young

Howard Brown:

kids, and where does a 23 year old fit. So I can totally

Howard Brown:

understand that. And it's horrible that, you know, anyone

Howard Brown:

young onset or peds, kids have to go through this. It's, you

Howard Brown:

know, they don't even have to understand kind of why and what

Howard Brown:

they're going through and they're suffering, and they

Howard Brown:

families do need help. And it's amazing that you're there. What

Howard Brown:

would be some initial advice that you give to families. And

Howard Brown:

even if you talk to the kids, what do you say to them?

Jenny Hope Mulks:

Well, in the early stages of diagnosis are so

Jenny Hope Mulks:

important to really set the stage for not only yourself, and

Jenny Hope Mulks:

it's how you received the information from your your

Jenny Hope Mulks:

caregivers, or your providers, your medical team, but also

Jenny Hope Mulks:

sending that message forward. So you are, you're the platform,

Jenny Hope Mulks:

you as in the newly diagnosed cancer patient, you're the

Jenny Hope Mulks:

platform for how the others are going to behave around you. You

Jenny Hope Mulks:

can set a tone of fear, or you can set a tone of hope. You can

Jenny Hope Mulks:

bring God into it right away, that we've got a spiritual

Jenny Hope Mulks:

higher power here that's in control. But we can also make

Jenny Hope Mulks:

sure that no matter what we face in this journey, that we're

Jenny Hope Mulks:

going to thrive, not just survive. And that's really

Jenny Hope Mulks:

important, because how are you and I know, we're not getting

Jenny Hope Mulks:

out of here alive, no matter what we do, we can kick and

Jenny Hope Mulks:

scream, we're not getting out of here alive. But how can we make

Jenny Hope Mulks:

the best of every one of our days that we still have here.

Jenny Hope Mulks:

And that might be two 105 that might be 265. We don't know, or

Jenny Hope Mulks:

younger. So it's really important to when you're

Jenny Hope Mulks:

bringing the others onto your team, to have a mindset and an

Jenny Hope Mulks:

attitude of hope. And that we're going to do this together. And

Jenny Hope Mulks:

and remain positive.

Howard Brown:

I want to emphasise because I went through

Howard Brown:

cancer in 1989 and 91. It was analogue and then again now 2016

Howard Brown:

To today seven years, analogue and digital is very, very

Howard Brown:

different. We my dad brought home a book about cancer from

Howard Brown:

the library. With all the digital resources out there,

Howard Brown:

there's you know, way to do that. And you said something

Howard Brown:

really important about making sure that you can actually

Howard Brown:

receive and so in your time in need, okay, you need to be

Howard Brown:

selfish. You need to be able to be able to take help and give

Howard Brown:

people that other joy and share their light with you to help

Howard Brown:

lift you up in your time of need. I want to emphasise it

Howard Brown:

again. The second point is that through COVID Most people didn't

Howard Brown:

go get checked. You couldn't go hospitals were flooded and you

Howard Brown:

didn't go get your mammography, you didn't go get your prostate

Howard Brown:

checked, you did not go get a colonoscopy or a FIT test or

Howard Brown:

cologuard at home, you didn't go get your cardio check. You

Howard Brown:

didn't go to the dentist, skip their appointments. And so I

Howard Brown:

always you know, say that gotta go get screened. Because, for

Howard Brown:

example, if I would have been screened 10 years earlier, I get

Howard Brown:

screened at 50. And the age is 45. Unless you have actually

Howard Brown:

symptoms, okay, like blood in the stool, or cramping or

Howard Brown:

stomach pains and things like that. Or you have family

Howard Brown:

history, you can get screened earlier. But it's one of the

Howard Brown:

most misdiagnosed things as far as my colon cancer, there's

Howard Brown:

going to be 155,000 diagnosis 52,000 deaths this year, we're

Howard Brown:

not going to stop cancer. But you can if you get it early

Howard Brown:

enough, if you get it early enough you can and for most

Howard Brown:

things, if you get it, so keep up with your health. And so the

Howard Brown:

first thing and it's a big buzzword now self love self

Howard Brown:

care, but eating right, exercising, right, hydrating

Howard Brown:

right, getting sleep, okay, all that stuff matters. All that

Howard Brown:

stuff matters. It really does. So I want to talk to you,

Howard Brown:

because one of the things that in our previous conversations,

Howard Brown:

and actually what you did in being inside the last chapter of

Howard Brown:

my book in chapter 18, I just did a podcast called 18 equals

Howard Brown:

life 18 In Judaism equals high and find means life. And there's

Howard Brown:

360 pages, 18 chapters, and one of the things that we spoke

Howard Brown:

about and when we interviewed for being in the last chapter

Howard Brown:

was becoming a hope maker or hope taker. Okay, and again,

Howard Brown:

this is all trademark for you and all that, but it sits with

Howard Brown:

me. Okay, hope the bear sits with me. Along comes up. But

Howard Brown:

tell me how you came up with that and give people some

Howard Brown:

definition in some some something about that a little deeper?

Jenny Hope Mulks:

Course. Yeah, I'm glad you touched on that.

Jenny Hope Mulks:

That goes back again to your energetic surroundings. So being

Jenny Hope Mulks:

in the corporate world, and pharma was it's a very

Jenny Hope Mulks:

competitive field. I had a wonderful company, but sometimes

Jenny Hope Mulks:

it's never enough. I had wonderful support when I went

Jenny Hope Mulks:

out sick. I wonderful support before that. Things changed

Jenny Hope Mulks:

though when we got bought out. But point being, we can be

Jenny Hope Mulks:

around people that suck the energy out of us that do not

Jenny Hope Mulks:

help fill our cup, that are very negative, that are fear based.

Jenny Hope Mulks:

It's all these things that in it, there's a great way to

Jenny Hope Mulks:

decide if they're a homemaker or hope taker, how do you feel when

Jenny Hope Mulks:

you leave them? Do you feel regenerated and you know,

Jenny Hope Mulks:

vivacious and full of life and be like, Wow, that was so

Jenny Hope Mulks:

amazing to just have that great chat. I always feel like I want

Jenny Hope Mulks:

to chat with you. Or do you come home and you're like, oh, my

Jenny Hope Mulks:

gosh, I gotta go to bed. I need a beer or whatever. They're,

Jenny Hope Mulks:

they just suck the life out of you. Those hope takers, they

Jenny Hope Mulks:

really check chip and chip away at your spirit. And the hope

Jenny Hope Mulks:

makers, that's who ended up being my treatment team. I mean,

Jenny Hope Mulks:

when I walked into to MD Anderson, I've gone to five

Jenny Hope Mulks:

different doctors and facilities. When I walk into ma

Jenny Hope Mulks:

MD Anderson, everything there was hope filled from the guy

Jenny Hope Mulks:

that parked our car at valet, to the person that did my labs to

Jenny Hope Mulks:

whoever was greeting us at the front to the nurses to triage.

Jenny Hope Mulks:

And my physicians, it was amazing the energy there. And

Jenny Hope Mulks:

and hope is an energy. And being a homemaker. And I hope taker is

Jenny Hope Mulks:

an energy. So I recommend highly to surround yourself with hope

Jenny Hope Mulks:

makers, because they will make your life so much more complete.

Howard Brown:

Well I want to take it even further. Because

Howard Brown:

you and I are aligned that we are building a movement of Hope

Howard Brown:

makers because what I My Gospel is that we lift ourselves up. So

Howard Brown:

you take care of yourself, build that foundation back, and then

Howard Brown:

you go help others there's so many people in need, I mean,

Howard Brown:

random act of kindness act of giving, taking a walk, sending

Howard Brown:

someone a joke, but also filling your own cup and go into your

Howard Brown:

happy place. Mine's the basketball court. Others can be

Howard Brown:

cooking and travelling and art and yoga, but you can lift

Howard Brown:

yourself, lift up others, and then we join hands and become

Howard Brown:

this force multiplier for good and positive change. That's a

Howard Brown:

homemaker. And that's what we're building. That's the movement

Howard Brown:

and we are joined you and I tagged him on that for sure. So

Howard Brown:

now you did mention, you know, we there's lots of people that

Howard Brown:

are going through, you know, treatment when you get said that

Howard Brown:

cancer diagnosis. Some people say that that your survivorship

Howard Brown:

starts on that day doesn't feel like it, but use the word

Howard Brown:

thriving versus surviving versus thriving. And so why is it

Howard Brown:

important that you differentiate that?

Jenny Hope Mulks:

I think surviving is underplayed,

Jenny Hope Mulks:

because that can mean just kind of like trotting along. How're

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you doing today? I'm surviving right now. Thriving is taking in

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life taking in the beauty of that blue sky. Taking in the

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sparkle of your baby's eyes or the laughter that you hear on a

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playground. I'm when you're walking by the bird on hearing

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chirping outside, it's, it's your senses truly coming alive,

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and having this great appreciation for all the the

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beautiful things that God has created around us. And that's

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where gratitude plays into our healing and to our role. And I'm

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not just filling fluff, like, I really feel like when I was

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diagnosed, realising that all of a sudden, I could hear this

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clock ticking, because before that I took life more for

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granted. I assumed I was going to be here 110 years. And all of

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a sudden, I'm like, oh, that clock is loud. But the Greens

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became greener on the grass, and the blues became bluer in the

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sky. And that little bug that was walking by I actually would

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watch my son stop and pick it up. It was just, I was

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enthralled at watching life through him too. It's, it's

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truly a joy to capture life that way. So I recommend to thrive

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well before you have any life challenges, so that you can

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enjoy every step of it.

Howard Brown:

yeah, so also, you're you you you did a TEDx.

Howard Brown:

So, tell me, what was that? Like? What was that, like you're

Howard Brown:

able to share your message on a TEDx stage.

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It was such an honour, it really was to be

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selected as a speaker for this, obviously, for this platform,

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because it's worldwide. And I really felt like it was a

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message that that God wanted me to have out there. And he put

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most of the message on my heart, how to deliver it. Of course,

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afterwards, when you watch the video and stuff, you have so

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much so much that you want to critique about it. But it just

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needed to be from the heart and real and authentic. And I feel

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like it came off that way.

Howard Brown:

It was awesome. I hope the bear was a special

Howard Brown:

guest with you.

Jenny Hope Mulks:

Yes. And hope the bear left with all of our

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attendees to go home spread hope. And oftentimes, when I

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give hope to somebody like that, I'll I'll encourage them to

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spread hope forward. So you might be bringing it home, but

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you might be giving it to somebody else that you know

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needs that message.

Howard Brown:

Exactly. So listen, we're not this, this we

Howard Brown:

take cancer very seriously, it is complex. It affects so many

Howard Brown:

people more than the patient's the caregivers and your

Howard Brown:

families. And, but we're both trying to actually, you know,

Howard Brown:

move things forward and help people. And I don't know if you

Howard Brown:

know that I'm now the chairman of colon town of the board of

Howard Brown:

directors. So we're helping 10,000 folks that have

Howard Brown:

colorectal cancer, there are resources. So please seek both

Howard Brown:

of us out is a message that I want that we have big networks

Howard Brown:

and we can if we can't serve you, we know people who can have

Howard Brown:

all different types of cancer. So that's that's the major

Howard Brown:

message I want to push out to the audience and things like

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that. Well, this is the time we're going to put on my

Howard Brown:

sunglasses, Jenny, and you already are shining, but you're

Howard Brown:

shining even brighter now. So my light is shining to you. And

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we're going to do the shining brightly spotlight. So you're

Howard Brown:

going to tell people, I know you have something that you want to

Howard Brown:

give away. And you're going to do that. But also tell them how

Howard Brown:

they can get in touch with you do your giveaway, and then give

Howard Brown:

me some final comments. So we're going to take the show home.

Jenny Hope Mulks:

Absolutely. I have a wonderful, heartfelt it's

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hard to work colouring book journal. So it's actually filled

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with poetry, with places to colour, places to work together

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through fear. And I've had such great feedback from families

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that have worked on together, as well as kids that just work on

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it on themselves. So there's going to be a link that Howard

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will put I assume in our show notes. Yes. And you can download

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the whole 87 Page colouring book for yourself if you would like

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done by artists that are working from the heart to donate back to

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a long time. So And speaking of donating to low income, so if

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you would like to support our children with cancer, you can

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text the word hope maker 244321, you just text that I'll send you

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a link. And you can make a tax deductible donation to our

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mission, which we would greatly appreciate. And you can find me

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as both a cancer coach and about a longtime. So at my email,

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Jenny jenny@alongcomeshope.com Or you can call me at 888802

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Hope H-O-P-E.

Howard Brown:

That's that four letter word we love. That's

Howard Brown:

right. It's amazing. But all this will be put in the show

Howard Brown:

notes all will be put on the links and on social media. So

Howard Brown:

give me some closing, closing statements that you want to

Howard Brown:

make.

Jenny Hope Mulks:

First of all, I want to congratulate you on

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spreading hope and shining brightly throughout this world.

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If there's anything that these last few years have taught us is

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that we can make a difference one at a time as we ripple that

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energy through this world and you are doing it. And I'm

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honoured to be a part of doing it with you. You can count me in

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all the way, Howard. The last thing that I would like to say

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is you are never alone. Everybody that's out there

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listening, do not make this journey alone. Cancer is a team

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sport. As a caregiver, you can really go down hill if you're

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not taking care of yourself. I'm here to support you, Howard's

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here to support you. Reach out if you have questions. If you

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have friends that have been diagnosed anything, please just

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share our information. Because we don't want you to walk this

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journey alone. It'd be my honour to escort you through it.

Howard Brown:

I love that. And it is a team sport. So thank you

Howard Brown:

for listening or if you're watching the shining brightly.

Howard Brown:

So this is all about inspiration. And Jenny, you

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inspire me and the work that you do. And we join hands and do

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this together. And so people you can get a hold of me at shining

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brightly.com There's great information about the book which

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Jenny is in and the final chapter and also my speaking for

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podcasting and any stages live and virtual, as well as there's

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cancer information and screening information in there as well.

Howard Brown:

Plus, there's there's discussion guides on survivorship,

Howard Brown:

mentorship and interfaith, they're very interesting free

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downloads that you can do that as well. There. So I will close

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the show by saying that if we choose to shine brightly, just a

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little bit each day for ourselves, for others and for

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our communities. The world will be a better place. Jenny, I'm

Howard Brown:

honoured to have you and thank you.

Jenny Hope Mulks:

Thank you so much, Howard.

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