In this week's episode, I'm talking about how to make launch-size revenue without launching — and the real-life predicament that comes up on nearly every discovery call I take.

So many of the people I speak to have something demanding, non-negotiable, happening outside their business — caring for elderly parents, recovering from illness, raising young children. There's no shame in choosing to step back during that season if that's what's needed. But for most people, there isn't a backup plan, so the work still has to happen. And what a lot of them discover is that their 2–3K months, with the occasional surprise 5K month, don't actually hold up once you work out what they're earning per hour once marketing, admin and taxes are factored in.

This is where the advice from bro marketers falls apart. Cancel your holidays, work through your kids' childhood, hustle now so you can rest later — it's not sustainable, and it's not necessary once you understand the actual mechanics of getting to a consistent 10K month. That comes down to three things: a strong, hyper-specific personal brand, one clear premium offer with a defined client journey, and a simple offer suite underneath it — a freebie, a workshop, and eventually a mini offer — that does the selling for you without a live launch every quarter.

The takeaway: simplicity isn't a nice-to-have here. It's the whole strategy.

Highlights:

(00:35) - The real predicament behind so many discovery calls

(06:15) - Why "working smarter" beats finding more hours

(06:45) - The three things you actually need for a 10K month

(11:00) - Building a group programme without exhausting live launches

(13:00) - How your offer suite fits together (and why order matters)

(14:30) - Inside the mini offer funnel

(15:30) - The one word Polly wants you to remember: simplicity

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Welcome to Make More Money Without Selling Your Soul, the

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podcast for bold entrepreneurs ready to

simplify, scale, and reclaim their time.

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I'm Polly Lavarello, evergreen scaling

strategist and cushy business pioneer.

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Join me and my occasional guests as we

explore the themes of wealth, selling,

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and wellbeing, because building a business

that works for you changes everything.

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Let's dive in.

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Hello, and welcome to the show.

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Now, I wanna talk about how to make launch

size revenue without launching, and not

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in a really naff way, not like a, "Just

build this funnel and build that funnel."

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I wanna talk to you about the very

real-life predicament of so many people

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who get on discovery calls with me,

and here's what they nearly always

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say in one flavor or another, okay?

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So the common predicament is,

"I have something going on in my

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life outside of my business that

requires a lot of my attention."

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Sometimes that's caring

for elderly parents.

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In some cases, I have had clients who are

experiencing cancer or recovering cancer.

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In some scenarios, my clients have

children, and they are the primary

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carer So many different things, right?

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And not here, by the way, to dictate

what should or shouldn't do in that

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scenario,

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okay?

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I know in s- in some scenarios, people

choose to not work in that time.

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And if that is the avenue currently

exploring, please, I don't want you to

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feel any shame because ultimately people

are in a similar predicament to myself,

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which is there ain't no backup plan.

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A girl's gotta live, a girl's gotta

eat, a girl's gotta pay her bills.

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So while it would be lovely to be

able to put time and energy fully

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into these things, sometimes the

necessity to work is still there.

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But equally, we only have our one body,

our one health, our one life, and we know

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burn

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out if we do things badly, okay?

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a lot of the time these people come

to me and they are experienced.

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have

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clients who get brilliant results.

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But what they're also aware of is that

if they were to continue earning, let's

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say, 2 to 3K months and maybe occasionally

a 5K month that kind of comes out the

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blue, they know that for the amount

of time they need to spend marketing

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themselves, doing admin, doing taxes,

what they end up paying themselves

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hourly isn't really a reflection of

what the hours are that they work.

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And some people have a really horrible

reality check as to that they are earning

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less than they would in a conventional

job, and it's just not feeling worth it.

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So I guess are kind two

scenarios wrapped into one.

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The one where you're working so hard

and what initially felt like, "Oh, I'll

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feel good when I get to three, four, 5K

months," suddenly doesn't feel so good

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when you recognize that is involved.

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And also the scenario where your health

or your family's health or your family's

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wellbeing is something that is also

your responsibility on your mental shelf

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and your business needs to be running.

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And I think this is really important

to speak to because equally I've

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spoken to people who've never had to

think about any of these things, and

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they've been able to hustle and they've

told me, "Oh, I love the work I do.

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I don't even count the hours I do."

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And, um, you know um, and

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th-they

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know they love what they do.

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They don't wanna go back into an office.

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They don't wanna have a boss.

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They are really used to the freedom

and flexibility they have, but

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they would like some more money to

show for what they're doing, right?

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Because, you know, they're looking

at all these other people who are

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no more qualified than them, in some

cases radically less experienced than

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them,

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who are making more money and with

apparently a heck of a lot more

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ease, and it doesn't seem fair.

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In those moments, we just wanna

throw our toys at the pram, right?

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So I've given you the context here, right?

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And I'm giving you this context 'cause

this context matters because very

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often in this space, the advice we're

receiving are from bro marketers.

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I hate that term 'cause it's

very generalized and, um, don't

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know, and kind of simple really.

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But to kind

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of summarize

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what I'm referring to when I talk about

bro marketers, I'm talking about people

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who glamorize what it is to hustle.

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Cancel your Netflix subscription,

cancel your holidays.

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Your kids don't need to see you.

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They're gonna watch you working hard

and making money, and that's the

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best thing you can do for your kids.

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Quite a few toxic uh, things that can

feel reassuring in those early stages.

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And look, I'm not gonna pretend earlier

on in business there isn't what I

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refer to as the push before the cush.

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I

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always say,

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despite there being a

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push

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before the cush, it is really important

that we get ourselves out of that

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mindset, out of those habits, out

of those behaviors when we recognize

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we've achieved growth and to get

to the next level of scaling, it is

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not about working more hours 'cause

there are no more hours to be found.

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It is about working smarter.

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And a lot of people at this stage will

almost not feel safe in recognizing that

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more doesn't always necessitate more.

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It, you know, it is the whole

work smarter, not harder thing.

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I know it's a but it's mother effing true.

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Okay?

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So yeah.

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You know, and, and obviously

why are they talking to me?

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Because

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I am

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the woman back in 2020 who was two years

into being on Universal Credit with two

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children who were very young, um, at

infant school and, and, and younger.

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And, uh, so you know, I, I literally grew

my business within a baptism of fire.

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And I did burn myself out basically

at the very beginning of my business.

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I burnt myself out contracting before

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I even went

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all

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in as

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a personal brand.

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It

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was actually all in as

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a personal

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brand a response to Okay.

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So-

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What need to those

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may feel

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like 10K months beyond?

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me, it's so true getting to your 10K month

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is

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so much harder anything that.

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get 10K

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month,

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a lot of getting to the next 20K,

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30K month simply just refining upon what

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you have

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already and down on the that work.

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It

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becomes so

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much easier.

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But to get to that first 10K you

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require, require essentially three things.

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You

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require

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a

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strong brand And it

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really

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really, helps have hyper niche, just a, "I

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help women their

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health."

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That's not

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even a niche.

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What kind

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of women?

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What of

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their

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health,

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what

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is

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the results that desire?

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is the keeping

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them at night you promise them?

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Uh, one beautiful of is

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I have wonderful client

inside the accelerator

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who came

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to me

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and shared she loved

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being a witchy therapist wasn't

if was of or marketable, I

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encouraged

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her to double that niche

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and she went-- now got, 8,000 followers.

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I don't think--

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I'm not even sure she

1,000 when we started out

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working together.

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Um, I accurate.

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I know certainly was,

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um, much lower

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than

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8,000.

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Um, Um, you so

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many

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of

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us overthink our niche is.

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Our niche is

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very

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often we are

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stripped back.

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Who we

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are we're not hiding in

the shadow, we into light.

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And that

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permission slip

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for others who to work us.

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So a of our story a

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part the that we've part

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of

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and clients that

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we've

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supported.

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It's, it's

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some

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big mental

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gymnastic

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It's, it's ready.

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It's in front of

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if allow yourself see it.

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Okay, so

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strong personal

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brand is the first piece

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you need

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because,

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like say, that, that client, I've another

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client hundreds

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of thousands

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of followers,

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similarly has a hyper niche

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and

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has

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spoken repetitively about hyper

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niche that why

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his

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following is

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growing

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so rapidly.

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the why

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both of cclients

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are killing it

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is because they've not overthought

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it.

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They've

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not it, it.

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They've not of

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been "Oh, but should

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I

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re-niche should

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I

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pivot?"

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They've just gone in, okay?

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So niche, the brand really

important and of course, you your

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following,

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as you

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grow

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engagement,

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you

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need

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to have the piece, which what

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is clear

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client journey?

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Like, are

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they buying you?

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And

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at the very of that journey, genuinely get

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to 10K

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months

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one premium

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offer, I

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recommend

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that do that because that your and energy

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will be split between

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delivery, after your premium clients, then

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also marketing, making

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sure that you've a stream new

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clients coming

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in.

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selling, which following up with

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those

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leads

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and following up

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with conversations you had, those always

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be

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the people who gonna be to from And

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that

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is

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the thing many avoid

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early on in

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business.

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like, have of people

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commenting on content, but why

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is buying?"

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Have ever

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engaged any of

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them?

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early

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on in

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business, while your

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messaging

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isn't refined will down

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the line, you're

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not

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entirely

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confident about what it

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is your messaging that really hook,

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line, people

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in,

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conversations really

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really matter.

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in those conversations

inform messaging make million

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times

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stronger.

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Okay?

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So

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first

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line is

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strong personal brand.

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Second part

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is

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make you have an

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offer,

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and ideally

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I start with

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a 12-week premium

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offer, okay?

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12 weeks to

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desired transformation.

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If

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it needs eight, it be eight.

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8 12

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weeks.

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will much

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hand their money

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for something

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where, I that result by

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Christmas.

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I can see by

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the summer.

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I see

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that result

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Easter."

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Brilliant, it's much

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easier you

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to be able say,

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"Here

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are the steps we take to get there,"

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because three

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months, steps, and

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you

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won't have to do

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crazy

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mental gymnastic to there.

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okay?

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again, well

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actually I've episodes where I talk

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about express methodology process.

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go

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back one

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of you to know more

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about that.

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not talk that here

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I this

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top level help

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you what's gonna you to 10K okay?

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So you've got personal

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brand, you've the offer, time is

divided between marketing, selling,

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and

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client delivery.

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As learn more your clients

where are repeatedly

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supporting exactly same

thing, where you creating

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the same

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re- that you share time

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and

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time again, that

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will the basis of

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your group program.

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you can't 10K month a

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premium

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offer alone, group would

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be the

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next step.

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So not necessarily offer,

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right?

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group program.

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are you gonna your group program?

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How are you it

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without exhausting live

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launches

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every quarter

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that

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sense of "Okay, just sit

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here and my fi- fingers

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for the

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next three months," gonna have be on deck

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every single to

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launch."

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do

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we find that middle ground,

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okay?

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The

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middle ground is have

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a freebie

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that are signing up a

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someone in than 10

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minutes, essentially

walks people your process.

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then on the side of

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that, have a or

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better

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still have an

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invitation to

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a

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workshop

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that you

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are running

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that

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month.

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And

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I would

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have the

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freebie running in the background

a workshop I run at least

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once a

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month.

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running ads, maybe more regularly

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than

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once

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a

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month.

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And

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literally, when you those two

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pieces, the third piece, course,

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I'm

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'cause

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this is really you're at months you wanna

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go

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beyond,

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that where you

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want layer in

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your

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mini offer.

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me wrong, you layer in your

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mini offer

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on.

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have a lot of

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clients who have

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done very successfully.

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you

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do

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approach this

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order.

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Start with

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your offer, to group program,

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then reverse engineer to what

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your freebie your offer should be, okay?

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and

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that

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will

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also inform the

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basis your

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Like,

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the- these

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are not entirely

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separate These are

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all

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rooted clear

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client journey.

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Like, what somebody need know they

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can feel confident you for them?

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What different your methodology

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and process

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that they

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need

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to hear to feel to take the

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next steps?

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they feel confident next steps,

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is there or

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a offer that can

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go

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through

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to give them

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those additional touch points

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and

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confidence

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in in

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you?

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do have invitation wait

list a group program

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that can go

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and join if not quite or a financial

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position your one-to-one?

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And that is

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how simple offer suite

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gets be.

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offer,

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group

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program.

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And lot

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of

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my

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clients, program's scaling,

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they

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remove one-to-one altogether or

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they'll have some

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premium mastermind, whatever floats

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your boat.

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Basically,

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as

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you're making

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more money, you options, okay?

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at one

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point had I making 30K a my group

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alone.

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That, that was fun.

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so So- That is how it gets be.

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Use premium

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offer, your personal

branding, and list building

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to get a 10K

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month.

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then that,

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add the offer so when

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you're running ads to

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grow your

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list, you've

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got

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exciting,

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fresh, new

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beings

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excited your

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business, you have really

entry point them to into with

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your

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mini

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offer

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or workshop.

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Like, the two is amazing.

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full

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transparency, currently a funnel

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running

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that still my three everyday

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sales

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system.

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So

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people

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these three funnels that

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I'm about You maps

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so can

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learn

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how in your

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business.

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in

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fact, I'm in the

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show notes so you download that

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today.

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people who want install mini offer

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straight away, you download

the freebie, you get

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get,

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it's over a 75% discount on

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the mini offer system, is a process

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takes to launching 14

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days, and literally has everything in

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there.

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for ManyChat, a

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template sales page using

you literally just in,

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add your

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branding.

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got

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for what you put

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in.

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mean, I've made easy someone

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to go

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from idea to weeks, and

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I'm excited

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about it.

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So

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that's funnel.

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And on of that,

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I be running

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a workshop I people through actual

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case studies of what

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it looks like how they

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can implement in their own

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health wellness business.

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that's, I'm

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I'm

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literally about the thing that in my

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own business and so of clients, I'll talk

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about in

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September the

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workshop, doing successfully too

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I guess if

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you

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wanted to think

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about

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what are the

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core for you to take from

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this episode is simplicity is king.

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queen.

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Yeah, let's

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go with queen.

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Simplicity

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is

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queen.

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But yeah,

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is

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really important.

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Keep offer

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suite simple.

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yourself in of your

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ideal client.

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wants 15 different to work with you.

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wants be thinking,

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"Should I be

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doing their membership?

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mini offer or should

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I doing their group program?

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Or which

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group program I in?"

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is

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not More creates overwhelm, and a lot

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of people will be telling

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you

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they're They just clicking

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off, then a

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competitor

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will

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advertise with

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a clean, easy

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into with

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them, and you've lost them.

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Okay?

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So

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keep simple.

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Keep

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it really clearly connected

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to what your

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ideal client

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desires.

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all

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on

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social speaking a hyper-specific

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way hyper-specific human being can't seen

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in their content, is

happening again and again and

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again again.

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their,

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the

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velocity

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at

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which their media is growing unhinged.

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Okay?

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And

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at same

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time,

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number inquiries coming are

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also

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through through

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the roof

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because their

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content

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is so-- Like it's

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not even closely to work do,

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it is the

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work

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So someone

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likes their content they've

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got money and desire

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to solve the problem, there's a

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clean,

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easy into

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doing Okay?

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you're not ease right now,

of things working for right

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recommend download my guide

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to get clearer vision to what you

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need be right 'Cause only

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do I share

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my

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everyday sales systems

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inside this guide,

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I

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also talk about

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what to focus on and

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when, that really important

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when comes to business

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growth.

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Cool.

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I

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really enjoyed recording episode.

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excited you to it.

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And if

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you have

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any

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questions, hit in my

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DMs.

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around.

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