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The Options of Belief with Matt Walker
Episode 1112th October 2020 • Drop Into The Härt • Joe Hawley
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This week we have my friend Matt Walker on the podcast!

“I've had a life-long interest in the mysteries of life. It has drawn me to study various religions and cultures, not becoming an expert in any of them. When I was in my early 20s it looked like I was going to pursue an academic career related to anthropology. However, I also wanted to do something practical and helpful in my life. I began to do massage and bodywork in 2005 and became a Rolfer in 2014. This has allowed me to ply a trade keeping one eye on the mystery! Important influences into this area of my life have included Hakkoryu Jujutsu, the Gurdjieff Work, and biodynamic craniosacral therapy. I don't claim to be representative of any of that stuff though. An attractive idea for me has been the idea of a Master who practices in the midst of us regular people. When I apply this to my personal life, I see that I am NOT a master!!”

- Matt Walker

In this episode, we discussed:

  • Matt’s story and how he finds meaning in his life and how he finds comfort in not knowing what the purpose of life is 
  • Self reflection and presence - Finding ways to let go in moments when we feel triggered 
  • How we can use Human Design to understand where our behaviors come from and how they influence others
  • How Matt currently thinks about the concept of God, and what it might look like if there was no God
  • The destabilization of personality and the seductiveness of certainty in our lives

Tools and works discussed in this episode:

Human Design

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Quantum Coffee is a show that provides deep, powerful, insightful conversations with top thought leaders and experts in the field of holistic healing in all areas including the physical, mental, emotional and spiritual bodies. We curiously discuss esoteric topics, spirituality, alternative healing modalities, sacred plant medicine and psychedelics along with personal stories of transformation, healing and growth with the intention to share the wisdom, knowledge and personal experiences of the these leaders who are paving the way in order to inspire change, both personally and collectively, so that we may step into a new reality, together. 

Join our host, Joe Hawley, a former NFL starting center, who, after playing for 8 seasons with the Atlanta Falcons and Tampa Bay Buccaneers, went on his own journey towards healing. He is now on a mission to inspire others courageous enough to walk their own path towards self-realization, healing and growth. 

Inspirations for the show include Aubrey Marcus, Russell Brand, Duncan Trussell, Zach Bush, Jesse Elder, Deepak Chopra, Tim Kennedy and so many more. 


Special thanks to @londrelle for allowing us to use his track Gratitude as the intro to the show!