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Second Sight (1989)
Episode 1629th May 2026 • Matinee Minutiae • DJ Starsage & Matt Burlingame
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We’re diving into the wacky world of “Second Sight” today, a delightful romp from 1989 that pairs a psychic detective with his skeptical partner on a wild chase to solve a disappearance. The main point? It’s all about the chaos that ensues when the supposed psychic powers of Bobby, played by Bronson Pinchot, clash hilariously with Ray, the grounded ex-cop portrayed by John Larroquette. As they navigate a tangled web of kidnappings, mistaken identities, and absurd situations, we’re left wondering if Bobby’s visions are the real deal or just a stroke of luck. And trust me, the humor is as rich as a vat of ice cream - yes, there’s a scene involving that too! So grab your popcorn, kick back, and join us as we unpack the comedic genius of this quirky film, along with all the nostalgia that comes with it!

Takeaways:

  • In this episode, we dive into the wacky world of 1989's film 'Second Sight', where a psychic detective and his skeptical partner navigate a chaotic case full of twists and turns.
  • We explore the humor and absurdity of the movie, which features mistaken identities, eccentric suspects, and a hilarious ice cream-related mishap that leaves audiences in stitches.
  • The dynamic between the characters, Bobby and Ray, highlights the classic buddy cop trope, where one is a believer in the supernatural while the other remains grounded in reality.
  • Through a series of comedic misadventures, the film not only entertains but also prompts us to reflect on our beliefs about the supernatural and the power of friendship.
  • Did you know Bronson Pinchot, the star of 'Second Sight', also played Balki in 'Perfect Strangers'? We discuss how his quirky characters have left a lasting impact on 80s and 90s pop culture.
  • As we wrap up, we share our thoughts on the film's nostalgic charm, making it a perfect watch for those who enjoy a mix of comedy, mystery, and a dash of the supernatural.

Takeaways:

  • In this episode, we dive into the wacky world of 1989's film 'Second Sight', where a psychic detective and his skeptical partner navigate a chaotic case full of twists and turns.
  • We explore the humor and absurdity of the movie, which features mistaken identities, eccentric suspects, and a hilarious ice cream-related mishap that leaves audiences in stitches.
  • The dynamic between the characters, Bobby and Ray, highlights the classic buddy cop trope, where one is a believer in the supernatural while the other remains grounded in reality.
  • Through a series of comedic misadventures, the film not only entertains but also prompts us to reflect on our beliefs about the supernatural and the power of friendship.
  • Did you know Bronson Pinchot, the star of 'Second Sight', also played Balki in 'Perfect Strangers'? We discuss how his quirky characters have left a lasting impact on 80s and 90s pop culture.
  • As we wrap up, we share our thoughts on the film's nostalgic charm, making it a perfect watch for those who enjoy a mix of comedy, mystery, and a dash of the supernatural.

Transcripts

DJ:

Oh, hello there. We're having a sidewalk sale. Two for one on rentals. And, well, we're trying to pedal our Betamax collection. Don't tell the boss. We want an upgrade.

And, yeah, the best we can do is just to make them disappear, and then she's got to replace them.

Matt:

Well, they're Betamax. They're always going to be in style,.

DJ:

Just like her wardrobe.

Matt:

Yeah. What are these disc things?

DJ:

Oh, I was gonna say these. Those look like coasters.

Matt:

Oh, no, I don't think those are gonna catch on, though.

DJ:

It is definitely the heyday of spring, and summer is just a stone's throw away. In fact, if this were a video podcast, you'd be doing the. Call me, call me, call me anytime you want. Because I'm blonde, Blondie.

Matt:

Oh, your hair's blonde?

DJ:

I had a little accident with the bleach. Little. I was cleaning the pool at the trailer park, and it spilled. All right.

Matt:

It's so blonde that when I came on, I went, oh, my God, he shaved his head.

DJ:

I know. Just don't confuse me for any of those Children of the Corn.

Matt:

Those are fun.

DJ:

Yes. Well, we just can't. We can't. We just can't have too much fun. We got a job. Play this. Okay.

Mystery Announcer:

e travelers. Today you are in:

The fall of the Berlin Wall became the defining image of the end of the Cold War, with people literally tearing down the barrier that had divided east and West Germany for decades. At the same time, the Exxon Valdez oil spill devastated Alaska's coastline and became one of the worst environmental disasters in U.S. history.

, and Brie Larson all born in:

Sadly, the world also lost entertainment legends, including Lucille Ball, Bet Davis, and Monty Python star Graham Chapman.

DJ:

1989, Huh?

Matt:

What were you doing in:

DJ:

Well, I mean, at least we got to go a couple of baby steps forward.

Matt:

Yeah.

DJ:

89. Well, I'd become an uncle already, and I was beginning to figure things out for myself. Which adult.

Which adult magazine magazines I preferred and that sort of thing. Yeah, and, I mean, there were reasons that I would stay up all night and sometimes sneak into the. The den.

That's what we used to call those places where we had basements and there was an extra room for a tv. And it was usually carpeted and had paneling in those days.

when:

But, Matt, I. I hear tal you got a better idea about that?

Matt:

Oh. Oh, I see. You didn't ask me what I was doing. You just went into wanting to know what movies were going on.

DJ:

Were you behaving.

Matt:

Were you.

DJ:

Were you behaving yourself around those times?

Matt:

Actually, around that time, I was taking classes to. For film and television acting, and I was doing. So I did this monologue from Rambo, First Blood. Oh. And see, that's. I got lots of.

Lots of laughs when I told them what I was going to be doing.

DJ:

Mm.

Matt:

Because I thought I was just gonna go like this. But turns out the last. The last monologue from that movie is intense. This powerful that the.

The instructor of the class said that I almost made him pee his pants. So anyway.

DJ:

Well, at least you didn't attempt to fall down and stitch yourself up.

Matt:

No, no, but it's a very powerful movie anyway. Yes. Moving on. Let's say what else I was doing in that year. That's right. It was the year that Batman was released.

DJ:

Oh, yes. Tim Burton.

Matt:

Yes. Michael Keaton and Jack Nicholson. And over acting.

DJ:

And quite fun comic books put on the silver screen.

Matt:

I know. I actually liked Michael Keaton as. As Batman. Yeah. But the whole. Yeah. Anyway, it was. It was interesting.

Indiana Jones, the Last Crusade, which was a lie, which was Harrison Ford and.

DJ:

Sean Connery Jr. Jr. We call the dog Indiana.

Matt:

Yeah, exactly. You were named after the dog. All right. It was Lethal Weapon two Time. Mel Gibson and Danny Glover. That's a. That's at least one.

One or two movies before he went insane. And then we have look who's Talking, John Travolta and Christie Alley. I have to admit, I actually watched that movie many, many, many times.

DJ:

I. I mean, the first one was quite enjoyable.

Matt:

Yeah.

DJ:

After a while, there were too many trips to the well.

Matt:

But, yeah, once they got to where the dogs were talking, I'm like, okay, that's a bit much. Nobody believes in talking dogs.

DJ:

I was waiting for the sequel where their body parts started talking.

Matt:

Yeah, right. Look who's talking now. It's Grandma and Grandpa making armpit songs. Yeah. All right. And then. Oh, look, honey, I shrunk the kids.

The first one, the original, once Again. Okay, what's the theme about all of these movies? They all had a hundred sequels.

DJ:

Us.

Matt:

Yeah, honey, I shrunk the laundry.

DJ:

And I can't be sure, but I know that eventually Rick Moranis ended up semi retired from acting.

Matt:

Yes.

DJ:

Raising his kids.

Matt:

However, from what I understand, he is coming back to reprise his role in.

DJ:

Is it The Schwartz is coming.

Matt:

Yes. It's lovely. Oh, gosh. All I can think of is Meatballs. What's the name of the movie?

DJ:

Spaceballs.

Matt:

Meatballs. Spaceballs. I don't know. They all get sweaty.

DJ:

Well, but thankfully the latter doesn't have Bill Murray in it.

Matt:

Oh, see, I don't mind Bill Murray, as long as he's not talking. Anyway. Yeah, There you go.

DJ:

1989. Okay. We're in that neighborhood and I still see some shoulder pads as I look out the window here. They're not quite as many.

Matt:

And.

DJ:

And.

Matt:

Right.

Do you remember when on Dynasty, when was it Crystal and Alexis would, like, get out there and they'd start hitting each other with their shoulder pads. It was knock each over like weird, weird animals.

DJ:

Can you imagine? I wonder if the person who created the smart boxes that we have was a fan of Dynasty.

And if they were a fan of the other lady more, maybe our boxes would be prompted by calling her Crystal.

Matt:

Crystal. Oh, Crystal.

DJ:

Yeah, Crystal Light.

Matt:

Crystala. Okay. Actually, it would be interesting if they actually named it something that people didn't say on tv.

DJ:

Oh, right. Or radio or. I mean, yeah, I'm triggered. I don't know about you. Yeah, well, I suppose the, the. The.

The man in the basement there had a fit that we were talking too much and handed us a tape. I guess we should figure out what it is we're going to be talking about today. Let's hit that button.

Mystery Announcer:

Today you're watching a quirky comedy starring Bronson Pinchot as a psychic hired to find a missing heir whose eccentric visions clash with his skeptical partner, played by John Larroquette. These visions lead to chaotic clues, absurd humor, and unexpected twists as they stumble toward solving the case with unpredictable results.

It's:

DJ:

Oh, Wes.:

Matt:

At the end of the movie where. Where they were like they turned to the screen, they said, oh, my God, Harry.

DJ:

Well, not really a spoiler, but we're tilting at windmills there, aren't we?

Matt:

Yeah, no, that was a little. Little throwback to our vibes, huh?

DJ:

And there may be more comparisons in the discussion to come here, but it's spring and the weather is nice. And then of course, that means that those lovely little children are outside playing their rock music again.

Matt:

The.

DJ:

The past is present and you're gonna want more. Put that movie back. It's not. Your mama said you can't watch that one.

Matt:

Like they have a mother anyway.

DJ:

Oh, right. Okay. Just like all, all productions, there are presentations. This movie that we're discussing today, Second Sight is a movie.

And of course that means that at some point in time someone put pen to paper, or typewriter, if you will, because it was still the 80s watch.

Matt:

Vibes and said, let's do that with.

DJ:

A guy, right, that, that kooky guy who can do accents.

Matt:

Yes.

DJ:

And then the lawyer from the nighttime court drama show there. We'll put them together in the same.

Matt:

Sexy, tall lawyer, Don Larra.

DJ:

Yeah, Setting things up here you've got three acts to every play and the same for the screenplay of a movie. The story behind the story. Now the first act here, the setup and the problem. Now Second Sight follows private detectives Bobby and Ray.

Now this kind of sounds like, like a southern movie.

Matt:

Bobby, Ray.

DJ:

That too. But I was thinking that it was going to be like flower children and their road trip that summer.

Bobby and Ray, played by John Larroquette and Bronson Pinchot, who are hired to investigate the disappearance of a wealthy man's fiance just before their wedding.

And the twist is that Ray claims to be psychic, relying on bizarre visions and supernatural hunch to solve crimes, while the skeptical Bobby tries to keep their struggling detective agency grounded in reality. Should be noted that Bobby is the one with the gift. That's Bronson. Bitten chose character. And he's.

He's long haired and he's wearing loose clothing all the time because you have to have natural fibers touching your skin, not no synthetics, because that blocks the. Well, for lack of a better term, should I say it vibes.

Matt:

Exactly. And what was it, that hair? Oh my gosh. I mean, obviously, I guess they wanted to make it. He had to be kooky. He had to be like a.

A stereotypical kind of guru type. But I was like that hair girl. I know a couple drag queens that would kill for that hair.

DJ:

Well, I mean, the hair was fine, but I, I was just glad where there's a couple of buttons undone.

Matt:

Well, I mean, Bronson was quite an attractive man for his. For in. Back in the day. Not, not attractive now. It just. I always thought he was very, very cute and I loved that he had a lovely hairy chest as well.

But yeah, I was a big Fan of, Of his back then. Now when I watch the movie, I think. But yeah, I. I loved Perfect Strangers and, and, and all that stuff because he was just fun and different and.

And there's a little part of me that. That said gay, gay, gay, and took many, many years later before he finally came out and said, yes, yes, gay, like we knew. But yeah, anyway.

But I thought, I thought these guys were a good pairing, actually, because in John Larroquette's delivery of just being whatever, deadpan just really brought it down. It was a good, good dichotomy of the two, especially with Bronson's over acting everything. And it's.

DJ:

It's not established in the very beginning, but it's not quite halfway through. But it takes a little bit to establish the fact that Ray, played by John Larroquette, is a little bit bitter because he's an ex cop.

He got thrown off of the force and now he's trying to make ends meet doing something else. And the closest he can do without being a officer of the law is try to figure things out for money.

And with a little bit of help from the great beyond, perhaps even if.

Matt:

He tries to deny it.

DJ:

What about the rest of that setup there? And what about the problem, Matt?

Matt:

Well, the problem is that their investigation, it spirals into chaos involving kidnappings, eccentric suspects, mistaken identities, and increasingly absurd situations. True. It's true.

And the central problem, of course, becomes whether Rey's supposed psychic powers are genuine or just making everything far more complicated. And I think that, I mean, there's much genuine about it. I mean, how can you be like, spot on like much and somebody actually denying that?

Because it's not like he's sitting there doing that like the, the readers do, where they're like, we're gonna sit and talk to the dead. Is there anybody who knows a. I'm getting a picture of a rose and it's like, oh, how vague. I mean, these were like, spot on. Yeah.

Remember the one where he. She was. She was getting the, the lottery numbers from him. That was hilarious. She's like, it's a problem. I'm like, whatever, do it right.

DJ:

Yeah, that's.

That's an interesting predicament in the story there because the whole time this policeman, well, former policeman Ray, is collaborating, coordinating, whatever you want to call it, with Bobby, their boss, Preston. He's trying to get Bobby and Ray to work together because Ray doesn't necessarily believe that Bobby has a gift. He's not sold on it.

And the beginning of the movie is spent like Any other movie introducing you to the stories, of course, you get their first job, or what we see as their first job. And it explains how they operate. Bobby's got this gift, and essentially he's turned into a human Ouija board because there is a.

An item stolen at this art gallery. And he just sort of pivots between suspects like a pendulum, like a Ouija board. And then eventually it's like hunting dog boing.

We've got the suspect here.

Matt:

Right.

DJ:

That is the beginning of the story. And the problem. And not to mention the fact that once they get.

Get this assignment where this gal who's going to be married has a problem because, well, there were some thugs involved and she's easy on the eyes, and she seems like maybe she's got eyes for Bobby.

Matt:

Yeah, but whatever.

DJ:

And perhaps after we discuss some of the cast here, we'll present part of the problem that you didn't know was part of the problem. One of the people who was part of this. This investigation here, a lady who's played by one of our leading.

Well, actually, she's not a lead, but one of our main cast members. She plays a nun. And. Well, she wasn't always a nun, but we'll get to that issue.

Of course, there takes a lot of folks to put together something like a movie, a bunch of talent. And Matt is going to talk to us a little bit about the man behind the camera, the director who is in charge of the story and the look.

Matt:

Well, you mean Mr. Joel Zwick.

DJ:

Yeah.

Matt:

Well, he, of course, is a director born in America, and he was best known for actually helming Second Sight, and you will not believe this.

s born in Brooklyn, New York,:

You're never gonna believe that. Right, right. Strong artistic background, and he actually studied at Brooklyn College.

Now, before moving into film, though, he had a very successful career, which he built directing theater and television, including episodes of Full House, Family Matters and Perfect Strangers.

DJ:

I'm shocked.

Matt:

I know, right? And it's kind of funny.

I mean, not only that Bronson Pinchot is part of that, but the whole Full House, family matters, Perfect Strangers and all that. And this movie is similar to, like, something that you would find on, like, tgif.

DJ:

Yeah. You know, I have a theory that this movie could have Been more successful if it had been a TV movie?

Matt:

I have a theory it could be bunnies, but. Yes. No, I actually, I agree with you.

I thought something kind of similar to that, because knowing that he directed a lot of shows like that, I mean, you can definitely see the. The correlation. But anyway, he was actually married to a psychologist known as Dr. Janice or Candace. Oh, Zwick.

And he was also a longtime educator who taught film and directing at several universities. After he did his big two hits and some television stuff, he went on to teach others how to do it. That's pretty cool, huh?

DJ:

Well, I bet you anything that since Mrs. Wick is Dr. Zwick.

Matt:

Yeah.

DJ:

Is Candace. I bet you anything if you called her Candy, you. You probably wouldn't be making friends with her.

Matt:

Candy, my darling, you hurt my teeth real bad. Tell us about the. The lead actor here. Unless there's something else that we need to do.

DJ:

The high man on the totem pole. Their first billing in this film is Mr. Bronson pin show.

Now, it should be noted that second sight actually came out while Perfect Strangers was airing. So this was not a pet project. This is not something that was supposed to launch Bronson's career. He'd already been on the little screen. There's.

Now this is his chance for people to see him do something else.

Bronson Pinchot is best known for playing eccentric, balky Bartokomas, which was basically inspired by the Greek islands and kind of like the characters on other shows like Sophia on the Golden Girls. She came from the old country.

Matt:

Yes.

DJ:

And he. He was a simple country boy. Of course. They made him, what, a sheep herder?

Matt:

Yes. And on the show. How did he get to New York?

DJ:

Oh, he hitchhiked.

Matt:

Well, after being on a little boat, he basically sailed the ocean on this tiny little boat, got to New York, hitchhiked to Chicago. Why? Because he had a cousin and nowhere else to go. Because why else would you go to Chicago?

DJ:

Exactly. I mean, he was born in New York City in 59 and raised in California. He could have been a baby flower child.

He attended Yale University, where he graduated magna cum laude. Yes, I had to. I had to practice pronouncing that correctly. In theater studies, he was a thespian.

Pincho quickly gained attention for scene stealing comedic roles in films like Risky Business and Beverly Hills Cop. Like myself, he was a little bit of a clown. He tried to grab the attention, and he certainly did it.

I'm surprised you would think that somebody of his. Of his background would have been like in the Groundlings, but maybe Right, Yeah, but he could have been adjacent.

Maybe they knew each other from similar waiter, waitering gigs. But he had seen stealing roles in Risky Business and Beverly Hills Cop. And beyond acting, he developed a passion for historic homes in Pennsylvania.

And there, there was a reality show that. I'm not sure where it's on, but you could find it. And you could see him working on old houses.

And this became the focus of the reality show, the Bronson Pin show project, because everyone's got a project named after them, of course. And he's also an accomplished audiobook narrator with numerous award winning performances.

Matt:

Yeah, he didn't narrate any of my books. Whatever.

DJ:

I just don't want him narrating the menu at the diner because then that would turn into Bibby Bopkas.

Matt:

Oh my God, that's my favorite episode. I still remember that. That and the, the ski. Remember the skiing episode where they were using.

They were like leaning from side to side and looked like they were gonna fall over. Some fun stuff.

DJ:

That's kind of a page out of a Star Trek acting method there.

Because whenever the ship was being attacked or whatever, people would have to lean and then they would turn the camera and make it look like everything was moving. Yeah, I bet you they do that for skiing too.

Matt:

Well, on the, on this episode that I think they, they were leaning over. They were like leaning over really super far and it was like. And you. I'm. I.

It was like a Bewitched episode where you're like, I can't see the strings, but I know they're there. Wait till the, wait till the hd, then you can see the strings.

DJ:

The strings are all in his contract. I bet you he wanted all the green M&M's.

Matt:

Actually, from what I've heard, from what I've heard, he went from being like, really cool into being a tyrant. In fact, the, the. You remember the one that, the girl that played his girlfriend.

DJ:

Oh, yeah. Was that Jennifer? I, I forgot because.

Matt:

No, Jennifer. Jennifer was Larry's girlfriend. Marianne was Marianne's girlfriend.

And, and I don't know if it was you and I or somebody else that was discussing it recently, but she, she did an article, she did an interview where she said that he just, he.

He was a tyrant to her and really treated her badly on the show, which is really sad because I always thought he was kind of a good guy, but I guess fame went to his head for a while.

DJ:

And they say that that's true of some aspects of show business or at least in the old days, because that's an age old argument amongst cast members of Star Trek the Original Series. In the old days you used to have people who got first billing on the show and that was the star.

But I, I don't know for sure that it's the quote unquote rule. But nowadays you have like the star and then everybody else is in alphabetical order.

Matt:

Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean once they're all like, oh, we're the stars, we can't, we can't be replaced because we're the stars.

And they said, said, guess what we did to Tasha Yar.

DJ:

Right.

Matt:

You could be next. And then they all like, that's why the start.

That's why the Next Generation cast all gets along and loves each other because they're like, we don't want to be Pasha.

DJ:

Well, that and Dr. Crusher. She got voted off the island for having original thoughts.

Matt:

Well, actually I just read an article about that, how they replaced her because they didn't think that she fit in.

DJ:

Right.

Matt:

And then they had Dr. Pulaski come in and then there was such a fan uproar and the second runner of the show loved Dr. Crusher better. Season three they brought her back because the fans and because, well, Gates McFadden.

DJ:

Is just that fabulous.

Matt:

It was, yes, Herman believed in her.

DJ:

But a little bit of trivia, Matt. What movie Gates McFadden starred in when she was no longer appearing on Star Trek the Next Generation?

Matt:

Well, what I, I did that rings the bell, but it is not coming to me.

DJ:

I will give you a big hint. Oh, Alec Baldwin played only in the first installment.

And then the rest of the sequels had Harrison Ford in the lead role and it was about, about a submarine that they were looking for.

Matt:

Not Red October.

DJ:

It was Gates.

Matt:

I knew she did a movie.

DJ:

Gates McFadden played Alec Baldwin's film wife in Hunt for October. And only that movie, in fact, I don't. Yeah, in the very next film they, they replaced her. But of course they also replaced him.

Matt:

Well, yeah, we all know how that turned out.

DJ:

Mr. Bronson Pinchot has over a hundred acting credits, if you can imagine. And of course, I'm surprised.

Matt:

They're probably all like, oh, he's opening the new Wimpy's Bar.

DJ:

Well, as we say, that's just the ones we know about. But of course, Perfect Strangers, he played Balki, Beverly Hills Copy played Sarge, and then True Romance, Elliot Blitzer.

Matt:

I know, right? I didn't even realize he was in that.

DJ:

And then the Langoliers, he played Craig too. Now Langoliers was a Stephen King novel.

Matt:

Yeah. Have you. Have you seen that, though?

DJ:

Oh, yes. We'll talk about that a little bit more in a bit here. And then, of course, he was in Risky Business, and he played Barry.

Now, some may not realize this, but more recently, and this is a handful of years ago now because we're always on the. The cusp of pop culture news here, but a handful of years back, they did a. They did a Netflix version of Sabrina.

And, oh, yeah, Bronson Pinchot played the school principal in that.

Matt:

It was cool. Once I realized it was him, I was like, oh, my God, it's Bounty.

DJ:

Yes. And he might be drinking blood this time, a la Armin Shimmerman and Buffy. But hey, at.

We've got our nerd lunch boxes out here, and we're stacking the deck and trying to see which one of us is the bigger nerd. Now, out of all of those hundred acting credits Bronson Pinchu has had, I've seen about five.

And I will say that as things go, I tend to call things my favorite with an actor when they get more screen times. Yes, he was known for Perfect Strangers, but he shared the screen with other characters. So I pick things that they've got more time.

And I liked him best in the Langoliers because as we've said a time or two before, it takes moxie to play a villain. Well. And when you don't like a character and you believe that person's like the character, that actor has done their job.

Matt:

Yes, Queen. It's like one of those things where it's like, if you re. If you really freaking hate a character, and.

And then you're like, okay, the reason I hate is because the actress or actors doing such a good job with playing it. It's not like Kelly Cuco or I just can't stand her. And she ruined the last season of.

DJ:

Charmed and the Priceline commercials.

Matt:

I don't. I can't stand that one. Anyway. Sorry, can't like everyone. Anyway. That's pretty cool. Oops, I lost my place. There we go. Okay. Yeah, like, you.

You liked the langoliers and. Yeah, and it does take. It. It takes talent to play a good villain that you hate, and it takes one to make that you love to hate. Anyway.

Okay, so I've seen around 13 his projects. Yes, Queen. Like I said, I was kind of a fan boy for a while, and I'm.

DJ:

I'm glad that you didn't get picked up for digging that sandwich or the dumpster that time.

Matt:

Yeah, sounds for me, anyway. But yeah, Perfect Strangers was probably one of my favorites. But I'll tell you, I tried to watch it a couple years ago, bro.

Her season at least does not stand up. I was like, oh, this is chewing scenery. But there was but the physical, the physical comedy between them. Wonderful. Anyway, of course I loved him in.

In Beverly Hills Cop. I. That's the character that I was just like, oh, my God, he is funny. But one that he did more recently was actually our flag means death.

DJ:

Oh.

Matt:

And he, he played the sadistic, music loving pirate captain called Edward Ned Low. And yeah, he was a violin playing pirate who goes on murderous rampages after discovering that Blackbeard broke his consecutive rating record.

Oh, rating. As in like, how many times he's rated something? Anyway, he was. I. He was crazy.

Like, it was so good crazy that I actually had to look up who played him because I'm like, who is that? And then realized it was him. Oh, brilliant. Very fun guy.

DJ:

We're arriving at about the midway point in our show. We're gonna take a brief break for some ads, some jingles, some nostalgia from days gone by.

Something that reminds you of:

Like Matt and I, every time we peek out that window once we hit the play button on the vcr, it's just a blast to the past.

Matt:

Hold on for one more day.

DJ:

I was reading a fan discussion group and somebody once said that they thought Denise Crosby was in Wilson Phillips.

Matt:

Well, the thing that I thought was funny about Wilson Phillips is like, they put the two up front and they were all dancing everything. And then there's poor Carney who's got like 20 pounds overweight or whatever, and they're like hiding her behind pianos and stuff. Oh.

And she's just like. She's like, just hold on for one more day. And like, they're by the beach and. And like, she's behind this huge boulder. Hold on for one more day.

DJ:

It should have been like the carnivals where they have the cutouts and that you pop your head in.

Matt:

I wouldn't be surprised if they did back then. Yeah, they're like, the other two are in bikinis and she's like, in the. This full, like, tablecloth. She's making a coat, Right? She's.

DJ:

She's sweating bullets. Yeah, but her coat. But her bandmates get to bear skin. Chow, chow, chow.

Matt:

Purina Catch o. Still going.

DJ:

Nothing outlasts the Energizer. They keep Going and going and.

Matt:

Daddy, daddy, smell my flowers. Oh, my sinuses.

DJ:

When sinus trouble strikes, reach for Nazotine. Only Nazotine has fast action thing. You can all watch as n. Like.

Matt:

We said, nothing outlasts the energizer. They keep going and going.

DJ:

Who could ask for anything more?

Matt:

Ask him if it has a five speed transmission like Isuzu. Does it have a five speed transmission? I'm going to check on that.

DJ:

Ask him if it has a bigger payload than Isuzu.

Matt:

Ignore him. Or M. Does it? Not exactly, no. Ask him why it costs hundreds more than Isuzu. No.

Mystery Announcer:

Now, generous factory cash could mean big.

DJ:

Savings on a pickup. During Isuzu's sale into the 90s,.

Matt:

They said it wasn't humanly possible. But now you can have all the.

DJ:

Power and excitement of Nintendo right in.

Matt:

The palm of your hand. Introducing Game Boy.

DJ:

It's portable, it's in stereo, and its games are interchangeable.

Matt:

Plus, Game Boy comes with the outrageous new game Tetris. And for head to Head competition, use.

DJ:

The revolutionary video link and blow your opponent away. Game Boy only from Nintendo.

Matt:

Now you're playing with power. Portable power.

DJ:

Okay, well, we are in the middle of the discussion that. That's the. All the goodness conflict and the rising actions. Of course, once we've introduced the.

The beginning of the story, the setting and the problem here now things get complicated because just like the bibby bapkas, when they've been sitting for a while, things start to rise and that's when they're about to go in the oven.

Matt:

So in seconds, just make sure you roll it slow.

DJ:

It's an island song, really, if you think about it. In Second Sight, the conflict escalates as Bobby and Rey's investigation becomes increasingly chaotic and dangerous. Can't have one without the other.

It's like Jesus and Rey's supposed psychic visions lead the detectives into bizarre situations involving kidnappers, criminals and misleading clues. What else can you throw in there?

Well, Bobby struggles to determine whether his partner's supernatural instincts are genuine or completely unreliable. Because at one point they try to dress him up. Because you say that you can, you can, you can dress somebody up, but you can't take them out.

They dress him up because they've got a job to do and they want people to respect their agency. And then of course they get there and everything goes haywire because he has to wear natural fibers. It affects him.

I guess it's kind of like when, when, when you're a person who's not going to be in A modeling spread anytime soon. It's important to us to have natural fibers because if your skin can't breathe.

Matt:

Oh, yeah, it's. It's like. It's like when you see a model on screen and she's just beautiful and perfect and, and everything.

And then you see her when she's not modeling or any makeup. They don't comb their hair. You're like, oh, my God, girl. What is. What's wrong with her? Yeah, she's a hot mess. She never.

And then next thing, she's like on the COVID of Vogue or something.

DJ:

Huh. They. They dressed him up and they tried to take him out. And then of course, that all went screwy. Not to mention the fact that it was in a church.

He was running around in his underwear. And it wasn't even anything exciting either. It was just plain old boring boxers.

Matt:

I know, right?

DJ:

It makes me pine for the good old days of spring break mtv, when men used to actually wear speedos, but that was the 80s, you know? Anyway,.

Matt:

Little lift and tug.

DJ:

I mean, some elastic. As they dig deeper into the disappearance. Because there is a disappearance here. One of the. The church there goes missing.

They uncover layers, just like the Bibby Bop cousin Marscapone, and you've got some Philo Doe, you know, layers of deception, double crosses, and eccentric suspects connected to the missing fiance. Well, the rising action builds through fast paced comedic misunderstandings. And at some point there is some dairy because there is a vat.

And I've forgotten all about this until I rewatched it recently. There was a vat of ice cream in a restaurant and somehow it gets lifted and.

Well, we'll talk about that a little more in a bit here because one of the characters in Second Sight, that's sort of off camera, if you will, He's. He's an embodiment. Involves some ice cream there. The rising action builds and mounting pressure from wealthy clients and criminals alike.

And the growing possibility that the detectives may be in far over their heads before solving the case. So the pretty gal who had her car hit, she goes missing. They. The. They.

They actually, through Bobby's powers, tracked down the folks that actually threatened the young lady's life and they ended up in their hideout somehow. And of course our. Our pretty young thing is going to end up there all tied up at some point. And.

Well, I guess we should at this point mention that her mentor, her. Her friend there is a nun, and she is sort of. The character's name is Sister Elizabeth.

Sister Elizabeth is the nun, the representative of the church that was riding in the car when this young lady. And I'm looking for her name, it's not Priscilla, don't think it was. Anyways, do we remember the girl's name? Maria. Yes.

Sister Elizabeth is in the car with Maria.

Matt:

How do you solve a problem like Maria?

DJ:

And well, come to find out. And this is where we take a page out of another movie's book.

Bobby, who has that gift, Bronze and Pinchas character, he's got a spiritual guide on the other dimension and guide in the spirit world. Exactly. By the way, how hot it is to buy goobers when you're out of your body.

Matt:

When you eat fast, you don't gain weight. Right.

DJ:

The spiritual guide. Well, he's got a little thing for the nun there, because. What did he say? Now? I'm saying this because. And do we know that.

Remember the name of the spirit guide?

Matt:

It was a guy, wasn't it?

DJ:

de in the movie Second Sight,:

Matt:

See, this is what happens when you drink when you're watching a movie.

DJ:

Right.

Matt:

Or you're like me and got really distracted.

DJ:

See the name of the spirit guide, Murray Bronson's. Pinchot's character, Bobby has a spirit guide whose name is Murray.

And he gets rather upset when John Larroquette's character Ray seems to be paying attention to Sister Elizabeth. Doesn't he, Matt?

Matt:

Yeah.

DJ:

And what happens? What does he tell her? Literally none.

Matt:

You get away from her.

DJ:

None of that. None.

Matt:

None of that. Okay, yeah, that's coming back to me.

DJ:

That was sort of an out of body experience, Bronson Pinchot's character, because up until now there was no reason for his spirit guide to intervene and take control of his physical presence. But now someone who he's crossed paths with during his lifetime has appeared in the means of our. The way of Sister Elizabeth.

Matt:

Do you remember when he lifted the table in the restaurant?

DJ:

Yes.

Matt:

Like, that's the thing is like he's. He's a psychic, but apparently he's got so much energy coming out of him that he's also got telekinesis to be able to like do stuff like that.

DJ:

I mean, from the way things were explained, Bobby, played by Bronson Pinchot, was a sort of a simple man.

And John Larroquette's character was practically every other scene trying to talk to him about women because he was concerned that he wasn't getting any. If I mean.

Matt:

Yeah. Which was something that was very important in the late 80s.

Remember when they were pushing, they were like, oh, my God, you're 14 and you're still a virgin. Oh, my God, what's wrong with you?

DJ:

I mean, by the time Mary was your age, she was already a mother, apparently.

Matt:

Anyway.

DJ:

Yes, none of that. Nun and the spirit guide.

Murray tells Ray, played by John Larroquette, to watch himself because he doesn't want him getting close to the nun, or at least the woman who became the nun. And we find out later that Murray was involved with the nun before she took her vows. And there. There happened to be a.

A night of passion where he went to the store and she was craving ice cream, which. Which was interesting and funny at the same time because in the scene in the restaurant, there is a vat of ice cream that's lifted. And do you.

Do you remember what she said as she started to. To taste the ice cream off of John Larroquette's shoulder? I think it was. She's like.

She was wondering if it was her favorite, which is what Murray went out to get that night. Rum raisin.

Matt:

That's right. And.

DJ:

And of course, Ray says, no, it's pistachio. But it wasn't a big budget movie.

Matt:

No.

DJ:

And I was not expecting Star wars level special effects, but it was actually kind of cool the way they did the effects for when Bobby, AKA Bronson Pinchot, was levitating things and moving things.

And my hubby is a film fanatic, and he told me that it's a very old technique that they did with films before, even the green screens and the blue screens and what they actually called sodium dissolve, which was a popular technique Disney used in things like Bedknobs and Broomsticks, where they interwove animation with live action back in the day. But they basically drew on the film cell manually with sort of day glow colors like you would see in the music videos of the time, like, wham.

Matt:

Oh, yes.

DJ:

It was a little retro, but it was also sort of really cool because you're like, oh, my gosh, he's lifting that with his mind powers and ooh, it's glowing.

Matt:

Ooh, right. Yeah.

DJ:

Things got complicated. And like I said, Murray wanted Rey to stay away from Sister Elizabeth, but she was. She was playing a little hard to get, wasn't she, Matt?

Matt:

Oh, she was. She was. She wasn't gonna let anything. Anything interfere with her numbness because she.

DJ:

Had some unfinished business. She felt guilty that Murray met an untimely demise because she sent Mountain to the.

Matt:

That's Right. It was all her fault.

DJ:

Yes, because that's just the way we are. We blame women for our problems.

Matt:

Well, that is the ice cream. You gotta have your ice cream. I get killed ice cream. Yeah.

DJ:

I mean, if I had to choose between rum rays and pistachio, I think I'd probably have pistachio. Although I. I think there are members of my family who would probably choose rum Ray raisin.

Matt:

I don't know if I've ever had run raisin myself.

DJ:

I don't think I have either. But are you one of those people who can't stand raisins?

Matt:

No, I like raisins. I just like them in moderation and not in my cookies.

DJ:

I thought that's where this would go.

Matt:

Yeah, I don't like them in my cookies, but. But other places they're fine.

DJ:

Maybe we'll just sneak them in because we understand that you appreciate British things. And over there across the pond, they don't call them raisins, they call them currents.

Matt:

That's right. Got currents in my ears.

DJ:

Matt. There was another member of the cast part of this production, this presentation, and this was a guy who entertained us on TV as a lawyer for some.

Some time. Tell us a little bit about the guy who played Ray, the former policeman.

Matt:

Well, his name was John.

wn in Losian. And that was in:

DJ:

Oh, I bet you he. I bet you he knows Ellen then because she's from Nolan's.

Matt:

Oh, I don't know, she may have been them anyway. But yeah, he actually developed an early love for music and acting while growing up in the French Quarter.

And before finding television fame, he actually worked as a radio DJ and appeared in theater productions. Oh, my goodness, how tacky. And then. But he went on and he's enjoyed a very long career in comedy and drama and notable roles.

Ben and Cookson. Cookson from:

Didn't he have a. Isn't he like an. A heir? Didn't he have a. An alcohol problem? Yeah. Or am I confusing him with Kelsey Grammer?

DJ:

No. Well, I do believe that John Larrocat has woven that into some of his characters that he's played because it's part.

Matt:

Of his personal life right Now, I have watched him on the new Night Court, which I only watched one season of. And I mean, to watch the other others, because I, I liked it, but I thought he, he was doing really good. I mean, he's. He's what?

Oh, my gosh, like 77, something like that. I, I'd still, I'd still, I'd still go there anyway. But, yeah, yeah, he's. He's a very. Yeah, very accomplished actor.

And he's done a number of things by. Actually, the top five things that he's done for 90 plus acting credits in his career. Night Court, of course, the John Larroquette show, where he.

He was John Hemingway, which doesn't make sense because it was the John Larroquette show, but whatever. And then Stripes, he played Captain Stillman, second side, of course, which. Okay, I'll give him that. And then he played a character called.

Called Carl Sack on Boston Legal. Huh. Yeah, I know, right? But, yeah, long careers. How many of his amazing 90 credits plus have you seen?

DJ:

Well, I should say that Night Court was a favorite of my dad's. I watched quite a bit of that.

And anyone who's listened to Matinee Mnuchin for any amount of time knows that on a past show, we discussed his 90s film with Kirstie Alley.

Madhouse, I definitely have seen that, but I've seen six of John Larroquette's works, and I would have to say that amongst my favorites are the aforementioned Madhouse. And then he was also in a series which I believe is on tnt.

That's one of those independent channels, but it's based off of a movie that was done a number of years ago called the Librarian. And it was made into a series. So John Lyricat became a member of the cast of the series the Librarians.

And they were basically people who had knowledge about other events because, well, they had this vast library and it sometimes included artifacts, sort of like Warehouse 13. But it had an amazing pilot episode. And I do. I believe Bob Newhart was in the pilot episode along with Jane Curtin.

So they had a rather big send off on that.

Matt:

And then they, they. They did like his supernatural stuff and things.

DJ:

Oh, yeah. They.

They were constantly having to figure out how to save the day because some artifact or some book got into the wrong hands and they had to bring that back to the. The collection that they print from getting into the wrong hands.

Matt:

I think I like watched part of one of episodes of that, but I might watch more. Okay, very cool. Well, I've seen about 21 of his projects.

I know I was surprised and some of them that I didn't even know it was him because I didn't really realize who he was until Night Court. But yeah, my faves are probably Night Court. That and because he's just so good. And that was one of my favorite shows.

Harry Anderson actually sent me personally autographed craft letter and everything because Barry Anderson's really, really cool. And then of course, Madhouse, which I know people will be like, how can you like Madhouse over like all these other things he did.

But I love that movie and I watched it numerous times.

DJ:

I think my favorite scene was where he is leaving the mail room at his work, finding out that his nephew was secretly smuggling drugs. He opens the box and there's this huge shipment of cocaine in there.

The only way he could think of getting rid of it is by pouring it into his neighbor's new driveway. And it's. It's not like a pavement driveway, it's gravel.

Matt:

Right.

DJ:

But the guy was saying that that new driveway just cost me so much money. And, and John L. Adds to it. He's like, how about 40,000 em,.

Matt:

Right? The thing that got. Oh my gosh, that, that movie when they finally snapped and Clearing House, I love that. But. But the.

The thing that got me was the cat.

DJ:

Yeah.

Matt:

Oh, like every time. And I'm like, oh, there it is again.

DJ:

Well, oh, I. I loved how it ended.

And of course, spoiler for anyone who hasn't seen it, but for an animal lover, it was actually a nice touch because usually you don't get a happy ending when there's an animal in a story then.

Matt:

Right? And that's the thing is I was mortified to it. I'm like, I don't like this. And then I was like, oh, never mind. It's so good.

DJ:

It was adorable. Because the cat chose Kirstie Alley's character and her husband instead of their original family.

Matt:

Yeah. After all that poor thing. But yeah, that was a good movie. All right, well, hey, guess what?

DJ:

What?

Matt:

We actually had the end of this movie.

DJ:

Oh, no, don't say, I know.

Matt:

But in Second Sight, climax unfolds when Bobby and Ray finally confront the criminals behind the kidnapping and deception surrounded surrounding the missing fiance.

And you're not going to believe this, but the investigation actually spirals into A frantic series of chases, mistaken identities, and cosmic confrontations as the detectives race to rescue the victim and untangle the truth before more damage is done anyway. But basically, raised psychic visions appear to, of course, to help at key moments.

And though the film keeps the audience, like, guessing whether his powers are real or. Or simply lucky intuition. Come on. They're real, right? He threw a table. Come on.

DJ:

I mean, I. I saw the neon.

Matt:

I know. It's like, okay, at that point, if you don't think his powers are real, you're not paying attention.

But in the resolution, basically, the mystery is solved, of course, and the criminals are exposed, and the director duo emerges successful and bonded because, you know, their unusual friendship and partnership remain intact, as it should. But I think they became really good friends. I think John finally opened. Or John's character, Ray.

Sorry, finally opened up and said, yeah, those powers are real. Let's do stuff. Come on.

DJ:

I believe in you. Let's catch that money.

Matt:

Right.

DJ:

Hitch my start of your wagon. Or maybe the other way around.

Matt:

Yes. Queen.

DJ:

All right.

As they wrap it up and they resolved things, we have a moment there, which, as we were saying in the beginning, is a little bit of a spoiler, but they have a sort of a callback to an moment in Vibes now. I guess.

I guess it might be safe to say that if you're somebody who is not necessarily a believer in the supernatural, you have to ground things in moments of truth. And so, of course, somebody's going to maybe eventually lose their gift, because it's not a given that something is forever. So.

So Murray, in the end of the story, he no longer feels obligated to hold on to Bobby and be his guide because he's had a sense of relief. He's been reunited with Sister Elizabeth, and she's forgiven him for leaving, and he's forgiven her. So.

Matt:

Ice cream?

DJ:

Yes. I mean, there are better things to be getting killed over, but it better be that. It better be some damn good ice cream.

Matt:

I mean, that's right.

DJ:

It's got to be churned by. By people wearing lace in Vermont.

Matt:

Vegan cows.

DJ:

Vegan cows, yes. But, yes. Bronson Pinchot's character, Bobby, has a moment with Sister Elizabeth where Murray says goodbye. And it's a.

It's a happy moment because it's. It's a day where they're having a picnic in the park, and anytime there's a picnic in the park, everything's going to be okay.

Matt:

Unless you're in Elvira.

DJ:

Right.

Matt:

Is this seat taken? No.

DJ:

And then the Poor guy comes to in the middle of the act. But it just makes you wonder. I'm sure that there could. Well, okay.

There's probably not a big enough fan following for there to be fan fiction of second sight, but I, I can just imagine now that Murray is gone and he doesn't have his gift anymore, Bobby's actually gonna have to find a job.

Matt:

I'd probably keep him on his own. What do you call it?

DJ:

A gopher?

Matt:

No. Oh, gosh, sorry. My mind is going. Not a motto. Mascot. Yes. Keep him on as a mascot. Teach him how to fake his way through things.

DJ:

All right, Just shimmy your body and fake things. Make, make the noises. Make people think. Maybe you lost control of your, your functions.

Matt:

I'm, I'm, I'm. I'm getting something. Is there somebody here with a liver?

DJ:

You just had two kidneys stolen at a party. Oh, okay. I'm seeing a bathtub full of ice.

Matt:

Oh, gosh, no. It's horrible. Gives me the sques.

DJ:

That's how things wrapped up. They saved the day and the. The consultant from the great beyond was cleared of any guilty conscience. They were able to move on.

he future king clown in it in:

But hey, in the rest of the cast here, we've got some talent worth mentioning here. Yes, the lady who played sister Elizabeth, she had quite an accomplishment for herself in her career.

She was Bess Armstrong and she was best known for the TV series My so Called Life with. With our favorite doctor Easy on the Eyes from Star Trek Discovery. What's his name again?

Matt:

Star Trek Discovery.

DJ:

Yeah. Wilson Cruz. Wilson Cruz was on My so Called Life and Bess Armstrong was on my so Called Live. Yes, he was. I just said his name. What was it again?

Matt:

Wilson Cruz.

DJ:

Wilson Cruz was on My so Called Life and he played one of the first out gay characters on tv.

Matt:

That's amazing. I completely forgot about that. Yeah.

DJ:

And of course, Bess Armstrong is not only known for My so Called Life, but she was also in Jaws 3D, which they parried. In fact parodied in Back to the Future too. When they were in town in the future there. They had a. A hologram of JAWS 3D there. So.

So Bess Armstrong also played the missing fiance central to the mystery mystery in Second Sight.

Matt:

Right now you'll never believe that Stuart Pankin, a veteran comedic character actor recognized from Not Necessarily the News and Numerous other sitcom appearances. And of course, I believe he was the one who played the. The boss, the overseer guy. Yeah. And then. Oh, you're gonna love this next one, though.

Oh, yeah, yeah. John Shook, best known for macmillan in Life and several Star Trek performances, including Star Trek 4 the Voyage Home, when he was the evil Klingon.

And. But he's very familiar to both comedy, science, science fiction. I mean, he's. He's done everything. Even if you don't know his name, you know him.

Yeah, but I forget which party played well in the name of it.

DJ:

I was gonna say how horrible I am with faces and names. I thought for a moment that Bess Armstrong was in Star Trek 4. I mean, it was that 80s look they went for.

Matt:

Yes, they. They do that. It's hard for me to tell actresses apart, though. Who was next?

DJ:

Well, Mr. James Tolkien.

And not any relation to the man who wrote the Lord of the Rings books, but it was famous for playing stern authority figures like Principal Strickland. Bald guy, back to the Future.

Matt:

Didn't that guy ever have hair?

DJ:

I know. And he eventually got to be the sheriff in the. The third film of that series. He added his trademark intensity to the cast because he. Wasn't he the.

The big wig in the police force.

Matt:

In. In this one?

DJ:

In. In Second Sight? I think so, yeah, he was. He was the guy who had a fishing trophy on his wall in his office.

Matt:

Oh, gosh, I forgot that.

DJ:

That actually was. Was one of the single most fun moments of second sight. Even though there are lots of comedic moments.

That's the moment when John Larroquette's character gets his just desserts because he takes it out on his old boss and what? Let's just say the fishing trophy. That's a tacky thing in the room. The. The elephant in the room literally has an unplanned exit.

Matt:

She's not pregnant. Right. I think one of my. The moments that I actually went back and re.

Watched was the television scene where he's using him to change the channel on the television.

DJ:

Oh, when Bronson Pincher was being put through the Kama Sutra.

Matt:

Yeah. Okay. And then we have dominate, dominated. Dominic.

DJ:

Kobolowski. Wasn't that Uncle Buck's girlfriend?

Matt:

Oh, I had no idea. Although that was a really good movie that I watched a lot too. Later Beloved as Uncle Junior in On the Sopranos.

DJ:

Oh, yeah, the HBO series.

Matt:

Yeah. He was already an unconscious, accomplished stage and screen actor by the time that he. He did this film. Oh, I forget which part he was now. Horrible.

I I specifically tried to write down who they were, and I unlike almost every mark except for Bess.

DJ:

Oh, well, as we've already hinted, there were some leanings into our favorite sci fi franchise, Star Trek. I mean, I thought Sister, Mr. Elizabeth was the oceanologist from Star Trek, but John Larrocat, he appeared in Star Trek 3.

He was a Klingon officer, and he later reprised the role through archived footage and voice appearances connected to later Star Trek films.

Matt:

Yes, and again, the John. John Shook who was in Star Trek 4 right after, like, the next movie, the Voyage Home.

Oh, but he was also In Star Trek 6, the Undiscovered country, and later voiced Klingon characters in animated Star Trek projects. And then, of course, part of the Star Trek history.

DJ:

And then Mr. Tolkien, James Jim to his friends. Guests start in Star Trek the Next Generation as Captain Hayden in the episode the Pegasus.

And that's the one where Riker finds out that his old ship broke up the peace treaty because they were secretly operating with a cloaking device.

Matt:

Yes. And then he became two people. And is it Riker one or Riker two? I don't know.

DJ:

Right. Oh, poor Dean. Poor Deanna.

Matt:

Yeah, dm. And she'd be sucking. She's probably like, I mean, you know, for the price of one.

DJ:

She probably asked if she could be tested to see if she could tell the difference.

Matt:

Well, frankly, with Riker, I mean, he should be adventurous enough. He'd probably be like, let's throw away anyway, right? Well, let's see how good I am.

DJ:

Well, I. I never saw it because I wasn't of age, but back in the 90s, there used to be a graphic novel, aka a comic book called Sex Track.

Matt:

I don't know if I. That sounds familiar. I do know that there was a couple adult movies that we had to keep getting.

Hector, stop watching that had some Star Trek stuff on it, but. Oh, I don't know. I love that they do the costumes and the stories, but it's always boring. I'm like, come on. And I didn't really do that.

DJ:

Those tribbles were really merkins. Anyway.

Matt:

Oh, my God, I'm being eaten by tribbles. Oh, anyway, okay. Yeah, that. That's crossing the line. Hey, I got a question for you. Which character would you most want to hang out with and why?

DJ:

Oh, that is a good question. I don't think I'd want to hang out with Bobby because he doesn't seem to be very in control of his.

Matt:

Powers and he's not all there, man.

DJ:

I mean, he was Pretty. But I'm afraid I'd get struck by lightning if I hung out with him. Right. But Sister Elizabeth seemed to be someone that knew her way around.

I guess if I wanted to figure out how to navigate the Windy City, I might probably hang out with Sister Elizabeth.

Matt:

Oh, see, I probably hang out with Rey.

DJ:

Yeah.

Matt:

Because I like tall, broken men.

DJ:

Who are good with handcuffs.

Matt:

Oh, that's. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. But, yeah, they're. They're all kooky. I probably want to hang out with, like, all of them together and just watch the.

And be silly. But anyway, was there a character you wish had more screen time?

DJ:

Oh, maybe the boss. Preston is the. The. The agency certainly was about Bobby's talents because that's how they were different from others.

But I think that the boss should have had more screen time because, well, the characters needed to get along. He had to be in charge of the office, and we got a taste of that. But at a certain point, they sort of let him disappear into the ether.

They could focus on the main characters.

Matt:

Yeah. I don't know. It seemed at first like he was more of a handler than a boss, but just me.

DJ:

He got to lock up after they finished cleaning.

Matt:

Yeah, I. I think I don't have any. Anyone that I would say that I wish had more screen time.

DJ:

You didn't want Maria to do a solo like adventures and babysitting?

Matt:

No, no. I think they all did pretty well. Anyway. Did you see yourself in any of these characters?

DJ:

Oh, after the year that I had last year, and I. I'm trying to get over that.

Matt:

Yeah.

DJ:

Because I don't talk about it as much. I could certainly identify with Ray because you.

You set out on a journey in life and for a while you expect things to go a certain way, but then all of a sudden there's a rain on your picnic and you've got to figure out, how am I going to get back to the car, do I have my keys, and what else am I gonna do?

Matt:

Yeah, I. I don't know. I. I guess probably. I see my.

If I saw myself in any of them, it would probably be more the boss just trying to get everything under control and hurting cats. So cats and personalities.

DJ:

Do you have family. Do you have family under your roof that tries to take. Take advantage of your friends gifts?

Matt:

No, but I certainly have friends who are taking. Trying to take care of friends gifts, and they're nuts. But anyway, I. I looked up some film.

Tried to look up some film facts for this, but there really wasn't that many. Yeah, the one, the one that kept being talked about was that the, the clip on the TV series, which. Right, yeah, on the tv. In the movie, the.

There's a clip of Perfect Strangers playing. And in the clip, Larry Appleton.

This is Larry Appleton is calling for Balki and Bronson Pincho, who stars in the film, of course, is Bobby played Balky in Perfect Strangers. There's a little bit of a reference, a throwback there or whatever, but a lot of the stuff was just talking about somebody's their first time in.

In movies or this or that. There wasn't anything really stood out as interesting.

DJ:

But yeah, but yeah, they're the. What I read about this is that, of course, as we mentioned, Second Sight was made while Bronson Pinchot was in the midst of doing Perfect Strangers.

I think it was already on its second season. Seasons.

Matt:

Yeah, I mean, he was super popular.

DJ:

He was trying to keep a foot in each dimension there. One on TV and one in, in the film industry.

And I honestly, I. I remember seeing Second Sight shortly after it came out because it was one of those movies that I caught on like an HBO free weekend or something. But I don't, I don't remember Bronson Pinchot in another movie until the First Wives Club.

So now there is a movie that I want to catch now that I know about it. And I think it was done perhaps a couple of years after Second Sight. Bronson Pinchot was in a movie called Blame it on the Bellboy.

Matt:

Oh, yes.

DJ:

And he played the title role. But the reason, and this is kind of funny, ironic, is messed up, if you will, because here we are talking about Bronson Pinchot.

And oftentimes my interest in something is raised by finding out this director who did this also did this.

It's not necessarily anything to do with Bronson Pinchot, but come to find out Bronson Pinchot in Blame it on the Bellboy co stars, at least in some scenes with Dudley Moore. How much more 80s can you get than Dudley Moore?

Matt:

There was a movie that. I forget why it came up.

It was something that we were doing, something I was looking up for this that came up that I want us to maybe look at next season.

DJ:

Mickey and Maude.

Matt:

No, it was a. It's a little, little, little film that I'm. I'm just wondering how, how we're gonna feel about it called Soul Man. Let's see. Thomas Howell.

DJ:

Oh, I've heard about this, but yes.

Matt:

Never seen it. No. Oh, my God, that will be so fun to watch next season. Because I remember it and I remember really liking it.

But now I look back and I'm like, like, oh, that's horrifying. Right? Yeah. Do you know anything about it?

DJ:

Just what's been shared with me. So I can certainly see the intrigue and that is, that has possibilities. Now this is sort of off camera. Edit at it. Maybe not.

But we were watching YouTube the other night and we became aware of some projects that this and that actor have done in the past years. Now, of course you remember her from the Shining, Shelley Duvall, when she was also in Popeye with Robin Williams.

Matt:

Yeah.

DJ:

Did you that she was involved with television? She was.

Matt:

She actually did show or something.

DJ:

Yeah, she did producing and directing and she actually did several kid friendly shows. But in the, I want to say the mid-90s, mid-80s, she did a series for Showtime which was new at the time and it was called Fairy Tale Theater.

Matt:

Yes.

DJ:

And it actually ran for several seasons and had quite a peppered cast of people in it. I mean she had, she had Robin Williams on there, she had Paul Rubens, she had a ton of people on there. And I was just shocked to hear hear about it.

Now apparently the marketing wasn't all that great, so it's hard to come by. But there are very collectible sets out there in. Some people have put, if not entire episodes, good numbers of clips of it out there on the web.

But apparently it was really well done for its time.

Matt:

Excellent. Yeah, I, I've, I've heard about that, that show, but I don't think I really watched much of anything from it.

DJ:

Yeah, I mean it was one of those movie channels. Of course you only got it if you paid for the upper tier of things and we rarely did that.

Like I said, dad didn't even have HBO all of the year because that was his nuclear family thing was that if he couldn't be outside doing yard work, he is allowed to have HBO as a treat during the winter months.

Matt:

Sounds right.

DJ:

Okay, we are at the point where we're going to talk to you about some things you might enjoy. If you are the quirky sort that listens to matinee minutia and maybe you like things like second sight.

So I will go first and I'm going to recommend something from more recent years. But I'm often late to the party.

t like, like cutting edge and:

It's actually based upon a series of novels done by Douglas Adams, who is an author who wrote the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, which of course itself had been TV and film treatment treatments. But Dirk Gently is an eccentric, overly optimistic British holistic detective played by Samuel Barnett.

Dirk doesn't look for clues, analyze fingerprints, or interview suspects. No, no. Instead he operates on the fundamental belief that the universe is governed by the absolute interconnectedness of all things.

second sight, you might enjoy:

And despite the name, it is not an adult film star.

I will tell you that it takes a special kind of person to love this show because the character that's the lead in this is somebody who is supposed to be annoying.

You're not, you're not supposed to like him because he's quirky, he's weird, he has a different way of doing things and that's how these investigations work. He has a different way of thinking about things and he figures out the answers that others don't. Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency.

It kind of reminds me a few years back, there used to be a commercial for one of those mechanic garage chains. And the guy was standing outside with the customer and he was basically suggesting that he had a different approach to fixing cars.

And he would float his hands back and forth like you're doing an old fashioned scale. And he's like, I sense calipers. And I think the sign was someone or someone or others. Holistic automotive mechanics or whatever.

But something where you got the impression that they were there was like Benedictine monk music and finger symbols.

Matt:

Gotcha.

DJ:

A Matt, what do you think might be appropriate for somebody as special as us?

Matt:

I was trying to think of a, of a, a good one. And there's.

Well, after members of a team of scientists lose their, their cushy positions at a university in New York City, they decide to wage a high tech battle with the supernatural for money. And they stumble upon this gateway to another dimension. A doorway that will release evil upon the city.

t heard of this one, but it's:

DJ:

And for some of our movie trivia fans out there, maybe you're not of the generation where you grew up watching Films like Ghostbusters and Second Sight. And maybe you're just getting back to these movies because it's something that your mom and dad or maybe your grandparents appearance watched.

Matt:

Well, thanks so much for that.

DJ:

Well, but it should be noted though that Ghostbusters was produced by one Robert Zemeckis, who later brought us back to the future.

Matt:

Yes.

DJ:

And more importantly, I remember Ghostbusters being the first movie that mom and dad rented on one home video.

Matt:

Wow.

DJ:

And it was, it was an old fashioned referral too, because my aunt had gone to the theater with some friends that had seen it. Of course, we were like, oh, we've got a video store and we got a vcr. Let's rent it.

Matt:

Nice.

DJ:

Oh, well, how is, let me see here, how is that sidewalk sale of ours going? I sure hope that we have cleaned our shelves of those beta tapes to maybe make way for some laser disc or some more of those VHS's to come in there.

Matt:

But it doesn't look like many are selling. I don't understand why.

DJ:

Well, some of them are sticky. And I told Hector to wash his hands after eating those peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

Matt:

But you know, I, I took one of the laser discs and I put it in the record player, but it didn't play any movies. I don't know. I don't get it.

DJ:

Yeah, I'm not sure how that all works out. I mean, Jack is our technical guru. We'll probably have to consult with him.

But speaking of Cooter Jack and consultations, let's gonna break that fourth wall.

Mystery Announcer:

Next time on matinee Minutia answering a NASA message intended for aliens. A space being tries to contact mankind, but an American missile grounds his ship.

Scrambling, the alien inhabits the body of a woman's late husband and kidnaps her.

ials trying to kill him. It's:

DJ:

I wonder if we're gonna eventually get to the 90s because, I mean, there are a few things that I would like to see. And this vcr, it needs some fine tuning because we've, we've had our fair share of 80s. Not that I mind the 80s.

I mean, the shoulder pads did come in handy when you were a ditz.

Matt:

Yeah, it's just when we end up back in the 70s, I'm like, what is going on?

DJ:

Well, those bell bottoms were comfortable.

Matt:

Oh, George Burns and bell bottoms.

DJ:

Oh, oh, you wouldn't want George Burns smoking in the 70s there with all those synthetic fibers, huh?

Matt:

Wow, he was fun. I just. Pride season's coming up, so I wonder what we're going to be watching for Pride too.

DJ:

Oh, yes. Well, speaking of watching, somebody needs to watch over those. Those kiddos there. Oh, where?

Matt:

Go ahead and I'll sit here and watch the sale.

DJ:

Yes. Oh, well, I've got to go get some of that nap time spray. Have you heard of nap time spray?

Matt:

No, but I. I think you spray it on a rag. Right.

DJ:

Oh, my gosh. We'll. We'll end the recording and I'll have you look up those two things here.

Okay, well, everybody enjoy the last days of spring and be prepared for the rain. But more importantly, enjoy the out of doors there, because before long it's gonna be fall if we blink. And it's nice out still kinda.

But some of us have to be indoors for a good part of the year.

Matt:

Yeah.

DJ:

All right, well, see you next time.

Matt:

Bye.

DJ:

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Matt:

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DJ:

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Matt:

Oh, that's right. It's my duty to do that, right?

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