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Bonus Episode: The Value of Jane Addams
Bonus Episode5th April 2023 • Chainsaw History • Jamie Chambers
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Podcasting duo Jamie and Bambi are back at it, diving into the ValueTales series with The Value of Friendship: The Story of Jane Addams. Join them as they explore the baffling portrayal of a social reform powerhouse, questioning the book's focus on a terrifying imaginary friend named Marjorie instead of Addams' groundbreaking work. Listen in as they highlight Jane's significant contributions—including Hull House, child labor laws, and women's suffrage—while lamenting the missed opportunity to showcase her as a truly inspiring and influential figure.

Get ready for a wild ride as Jamie and Bambi uncover the unsettling aspects of this peculiar children's book, all while appreciating the real Jane Addams and her impact on history. Don't miss their candid thoughts and insights on this bizarre take on a feminist icon's life story.

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Hello and welcome everybody to the bonus episode of Chainsaw History.

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This time my sister and I are doing the Value of series where we talk about the children's

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books that our parents inflicted on us when we were kids.

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And they're really bad.

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The idea was to be biographies of inspirational heroes, largely from American history, but

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not always.

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And they were meant to teach us the values that we were supposed to know as good Americans.

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Citizens.

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Yeah.

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So, digging these out of the closet of doom, we now are bringing them to you and reacting

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to them again after not having looked at them for a really long time.

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So what have you brought me today?

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I have brought you the Value of Friendship, the story of Jane Addams.

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Jane Addams?

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I already know that name.

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We talked about Jane Addams a little bit when we covered Frances Perkins.

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Yes we did.

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All those like 5,000 years ago.

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So I didn't know a lot about this lady.

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In fact, when I first just looked at it, I thought it was like an Addams president's

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wife or something and I had zero interest.

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But it turns out this lady is actually pretty fucking badass.

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The forgotten member of the Addams family.

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She just looks like this school marm on the cover.

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Yes, and it's done very directly.

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She's in a very horrible red and pink gown that is some kind of like...

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But she's smiling.

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Periodly ambiguous because it doesn't really tell you much.

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It could literally be from a hundred years ago or five hundred years ago, no one knows.

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Her smile seems sort of self-conscious.

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So this one was read or written by Ann Donegan Johnson.

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She's the same shitty lady who wrote The Nellie Fly.

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Oh boy.

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So she's already like, feminist heroes.

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Let's talk about them.

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I'm also taking a shit on them.

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Buckle up.

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Let's find out what we learned about Jane Addams.

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So we'll start out like all true biographies with Once Upon a Time.

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A little girl named Jane Addams lived in a lovely house in a town called Cedarville in

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Illinois.

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Jane was a thin little girl and her back wasn't quite straight.

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She had to carry her head tilted to one side.

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Whenever she looked into the mirror, she sighed.

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I wish I weren't quite so homely, she said to herself.

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Now, they don't say in this book, but when she was four, she contracted tuberculosis

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of the spine, which caused her curvature and health problems.

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It kind of...

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So she got like...

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Plagued with her whole life.

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So scoliosis essentially hit her and she had all these other problems and stuff, but she

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wasn't as...

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So at least in this storybook version where she's like, Dear diary, I'm ugly.

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That sucks.

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I wish I could be pretty like a real girl's supposed to be.

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Yeah.

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Well, apparently that's one of the things that is historically accurate.

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She was really...

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Especially as a child, she didn't want to embarrass her father by being seen with him.

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Kind of sad and dark.

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That's really fucking sad.

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Yeah.

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But they brighten it in this book because...

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So they go on to tell you that Jane's mother died and her family didn't think that she

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was homely and too thin and ugly, but everybody else, it's implied.

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Just the world, honey.

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Just the world.

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No, but not us.

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Just everyone else you'll ever meet will react in horror to the sight of your face.

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Sorry.

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So instead of talking about some of the cool shit that she actually did, they're going

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to give you an antidote about her eating breakfast and going on a trip with her father

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in the wagon.

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And this particular day, her father, who, by the way, it was a fucking pretty big deal.

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He was a founding member of the Republican Party.

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He served as an Illinois senator.

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He was a friend and supporter of Abraham Lincoln.

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He was very rich.

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He owned large timber, cattle, flour, wool, all kinds of refineries.

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He was also the president of the Second National Bank of Freeport.

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This is a reminder that...

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He is a rich fucking dude.

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And it's a reminder that, you know, once upon a time, Republicans had slightly different

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core values than they do now.

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Than they do in today's world.

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So yeah.

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So yeah, they like being talked about.

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They love talking about how they're the party of Lincoln, would they want to be the party

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of Jane Addams?

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Because I know some of the shit she was up to, and I think it's pretty cool.

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I think it's funny as hell.

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So going on, she and her father this particular day, instead of driving through the town,

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they went into this kind of shantier, shittier, poorer part of...

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Shanty town.

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Yeah.

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Lovely.

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We've never gone this way before, said Jane.

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Father, what's the matter here, whispered Jane.

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Why is everything so ugly?

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Like me.

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These people are very poor, said Mr. Addams.

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They can't afford nice houses and pretty clothes.

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Jane thought about this for a moment, then she smiled.

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When I grow up, she announced, I'm going to build a big fine house like the one we live

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in.

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I'm going to build it near all these ugly little houses, and the children can come play

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in my yard, and I'll be their friend.

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Okay.

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Darling.

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I mean, it's a little kid.

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Yeah, well, it gets more horrifying from here, because she goes home and she starts talking

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to her doll, which is fucking nightmare.

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Jesus Christ.

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No, you didn't need to do that.

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All right, we are definitely putting this picture online.

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It is horrible.

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And I am sorry for the emotional trauma, because that is Jesus.

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Annie Wise, the clown, would shit his pants.

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I don't know why.

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This is her favorite doll, and she pretends to talk to it, because, you know, all of these

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need pretending.

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Oh, and it even says, dolls don't really talk, she said.

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When I'm listening to you, I'm pretending, aren't I?

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Because it's always a good idea to ask yourself questions about your sanity.

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Am I crazy?

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Am I crazy?

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No.

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Am I pretending?

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Isn't that darling?

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Am I crazy?

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No, no, no, it's all it's all fine.

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It's all fine.

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It's just pretend.

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So she's so she's butt ugly and raving lunatic as a little girl.

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Her favorite doll is something out of fucking nightmares.

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And you know, when she's sitting next to the like, you can see a teddy bear, but it's sort

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of like, it's got a thousand yard stare at the teddy bear seam some shit.

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It's pretty disturbing.

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Please flip the page.

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But yeah, so she told Marjorie that she wanted how she wanted to help the poor children when

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she got older.

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I want to harvest the souls of the poor for my doll.

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Oh, God.

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Continue.

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So anyway, she got a new mom.

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Yay.

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Yay.

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Yeah.

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Rich dudes never seem to have a problem replacing those wives, do they?

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No, and apparently, again, not brought up in the book, but Jane's mother died during

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her ninth pregnancy.

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So yeah, it's like, maybe could you stay off my mom for once and I could have cat her for

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longer?

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Yeah, well, that didn't happen.

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So he marries a widower who had who also had children.

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She was ready for her 12th pregnancy.

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Yeah.

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So she had the new Mrs. Adams had two sons of her own, Harry, who was 18.

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And he seemed terribly grown up to Jane.

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But George was just Jane's age.

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He was an open, friendly little boy, and he liked to share things.

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So they went on childhood adventures, and she didn't notice how like miserable and ugly

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and in pain she was when she hung out with George.

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He made her feel good.

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Okay.

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So anywho, Jane and her new stepbrother go on many adventures and he doesn't think she's

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ugly and she doesn't realize that she's miserable and in pain all the time and I'm legally born.

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It's fine.

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And then she would also, you know, talk to her imaginary doll friend.

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And so she grew up in a pretty happy household.

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And one of the Adams children had the disappearance of small pets and the bloodstains and the

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doll were never spoken of.

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No, apparently they just sang songs and played guitar and had family games and it was how

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fucking wholesome wholesome as shit all the time.

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Great.

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And so being rich is awesome.

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Okay.

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And then to quote the book, but life wasn't all parties and plays for Jane.

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There was schoolwork too, and there were quiet times when Jane sat alone with Marjorie and

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read books from her father's library.

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She should not take this doll with her everywhere.

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It's very upsetting.

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Do not fill this doll's head with dark knowledge.

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Do not.

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Such a big book for such a little girl, said her father one day.

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Was it the Necronomicon?

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Probably.

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But that's all right, Jane.

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I like to see you reading.

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In fact, I'll give you five cents for every book you finish.

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What an offer whispered Marjorie.

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You love to read anyway.

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You'll make lots of money.

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So Jane, her interest in reading was lucrative and she made a bunch of money off of her father.

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So long before Pizza Hut started bribing kids to read, Mr. Adams was on it with a nickel.

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And this is what, this is like a nickel back in like, we're still, are we still, we're

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in like the early 20th century or late 19th century at this point?

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Yeah.

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Hold on.

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Let me flip to the back real quick.

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So you can see the...

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Yeah.

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She was born in 1860.

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Okay.

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So we're still well in the 19th century, so five cents ain't nothing.

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No, it's not.

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But then again, she's a rich kid, so.

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Yeah.

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She's a super rich kid.

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But now she is.

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She's like all purple.

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A shiny nickel for reading a book.

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That would have bought me one and a half Jolly Ranchers when I was a little kid.

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Yep.

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She would go on to read that Jane grew older and taller.

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She wasn't so thin and she was very bright.

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In fact, she was so bright.

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She passed the entrance exams and was accepted as a student by Smith College in New Hampshire,

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Massachusetts.

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Nice.

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Very nice.

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But her father wouldn't let her go because he was on a trustee at the Rockford Women's

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College.

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Oh, he's like, no, no, no.

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There's not the right college, young Jane.

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Yes.

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She went to the Rockford Feminine Seminary College.

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Oh, the Women Religious College.

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The Women Religious College.

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So instead of getting an actual degree, she went to this women's college, but she made

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the most of it.

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And she actually went on to do cool things with it.

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So yeah, because this is the part where I actually know a little bit about her life,

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but keep going.

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So yeah, she went off to college.

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And does she take her terrifying doll with her to college?

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Apparently, because there it is right here in this picture.

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She didn't have many friends.

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Well, except for she does, Jamie, because this is where the story takes a hilarious

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turn.

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Okay.

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Jane had many classmates in seminary, but before long, she had a special friend too.

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A girl named Ellen Gates Starr.

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A special friend, you say?

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A special friend is how they phrase it.

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Yes.

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Apparently these women were notorious lesbians.

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But of course, we're not going to say that here.

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That's her special friend.

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She's definitely jumping into college the way lots of women jump into college.

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Yeah, the Christian Missionary School.

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Yep.

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Where you learn more than the missionary position.

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Oh, yeah.

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Or at least these two ladies did.

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Woohoo.

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Good for them.

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Yeah.

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They made lifelong friends.

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I bet they did.

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Yep.

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Jane studied very hard, and she took math and science courses and that frightened most

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of the girls.

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Oh no, math.

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Oh no, the math.

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And she earned good grades.

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When she finished her regular three years at seminary, she got permission to stay a

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whole extra year and take advanced courses.

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Gosh, really?

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And she took her examinations and qualified for a college degree, so she got her for real

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college degree like she wanted.

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All right, cool.

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You did it, Jane, called her imaginary doll friend who shouldn't be here to begin with.

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I knew you'd find a way if you really tried.

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I knew if I killed all of your enemies along the way, you'd succeed.

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Oh.

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Right.

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Keep going.

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So good.

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She's a college graduate, and now she's ready to make her mark on the world.

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So Jane decided she wanted to go off to women's medical college and to become a doctor.

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Oh, nice.

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There were not many of those.

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Yeah, because I want to say it was the women's medical college in Philadelphia, and it was

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one of the few in the country.

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So it was basically her and Dr. Quinn, and that's it.

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Yeah.

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Well, it depends on your fictional literature, Jamie.

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There's lots of females.

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Yes, I do understand this.

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Yes.

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For real life, she wanted to become a doctor, but then a very sad thing happened.

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Oh, no.

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We hate sad things happening.

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Is your doll burned in a fire?

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In August, just as Jane was getting ready to leave for medical school, John Adams died.

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So she lost her daddy.

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So the nice, rich dude.

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Dude is gone.

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However, again, don't mention it in there, but at her father's death, she inherited the

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equivalent of $1.4 million.

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In 19, or 2016 money.

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Okay.

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So not too shabby, a little mess, a little thing, a little starter money to get started

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in life.

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A little $50,000 inheritance at the turn of the century ain't bad.

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Yeah, for her for real.

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So she got some for real money after Daddy Warbucks died.

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So what's she going to do with this newfound wealth?

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She cried as if her heart would break.

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Oh, Marjorie, what will I do?

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She sobbed my wonderful, handsome father.

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He was the best friend I ever had.

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I will miss him so much.

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Not a lot of jokes to be made out of her being sad about her dad dying.

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I mean that Yeah, and crying to her imaginary friend agreed your dad dying sucks.

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Mm hmm.

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Unless you're one of those people had a really shitty dad.

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But you know, I get it.

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She said her dad's gone and she all she has left is this soul devouring.

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Homunculus that she did.

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She keeps around with her.

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Yeah.

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So September came and Jane left for Philadelphia.

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Soon she was busy with her work at medical school.

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There was still an empty place in her heart, but she didn't have time to think about it.

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But then trouble came that she had to think about Jane's old problems with her back returned.

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Oh, that's

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yeah, so Jane started having really bad problems with her back.

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And so she decided to go to see her stepbrother, Harry, who is who was a physician.

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Or he got to become a doctor.

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He got to become a doctor.

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She was going to become a doctor.

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But and apparently, there's a whole like this whole Adams family blended thing.

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They lots of doctors.

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Yes, lots of doctors.

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So you need an operation, Harry said after he examined Jane,

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I can fix what is hurting you, but it will take a long time to regain your strength.

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Oh, God, you were you really want spinal surgery in the very early 20th century?

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Yeah, it worked out for though.

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Oh, good.

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I'm glad it helped.

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And while she was recovering, she decided to take a trip to Europe.

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Okay.

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And so her she went with her stepmother.

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recovery from back surgery.

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So international travel is just the thing.

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Yeah, well, apparently, it's like this was almost like over six months past the surgery.

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So she's into the healing stage.

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Sure.

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Okay.

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So once she was moving about, you're spending some of that, you know, on a boat.

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So she packs up goes on a boat with her stepmom.

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And so they tell you all about the boat trip and landing in Ireland.

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And some of her and they went to Ireland and Scotland and England.

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Nice.

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Yeah.

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So she traveled the world and she apparently traveled the world for a couple years.

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I recommend travel for young people.

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So so far, so good.

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Yeah.

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So young Jane and her stepmom are are off having adventures.

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Sweet.

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Seeing castles and eating bland British food.

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Yep.

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And then quote from the book.

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They saw great buildings and beautiful fountains and green parks.

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They saw narrow mean streets to where haggard unshaven men and thin hungry women lived.

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They saw ragged half starved children.

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They even saw a market where wilted half rotten vegetables were auctioned off to these poor people.

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What is this poverty thing?

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We don't have that back in America.

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They did.

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She was she was exposed to poverty that once and then she was like these poor ugly children.

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And her parents were like, well, never gonna let her see that part of town again.

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And now suddenly her dad's dead and they were like, go over the road.

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Oh, this is a thing everywhere.

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Yeah, it turns out sometimes things suck for people.

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So apparently, instead of talking to her real life stepmother who was with her,

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she talked to her imaginary doll.

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It was terrible, she told the doll.

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Those people were spending their last pennies on cabbages that weren't fit to eat.

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Oh, Marjorie, I have to do something for the poor people.

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I don't know what, but I can't let them go on like that.

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So Jane was really affected by poor people.

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I got to do something about this whole poverty thing.

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So she spent two years in Europe.

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She traveled to many countries.

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She saw people in need of help and friendship.

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And so when she returned home, she wrote to her good friend Ellen.

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I feel like such a failure, she told Ellen.

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For years, I have thought about helping needy people, but I really haven't done a thing.

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And so then she remembers this place she saw in London.

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It was called Toni B. Hall.

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It was in the slums and it was, quote, it was called a settlement house.

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And it was very much like the house that Jane had dreamt about when she was a child.

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It was a nice place to sit down among dirty little cottages.

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It was a place where poor people could come and enjoy themselves.

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So she was like, that motherfucker stole my idea that I had when I was a little kid.

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I'm going to go burn his house down.

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No, she was like, I want to have one just like it.

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So her and her friend, Ellen, they go to Europe together.

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They go on a lesbian adventure to go check out.

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Lesbian European adventure to go check out the house that helps the poor people.

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Excellent.

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That could be a really like fun and possibly hot movie.

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Could be, although if you like feminists, turn of the century feminist.

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Turn of the century feminist lesbian progressive adventures sounds actually like, yeah.

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You're like, it's hot, give it to me.

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When Jane and Ellen returned again to America, Jane had made up her mind.

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She would have a lovely big house right in the middle of the slum.

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She would invite the neighborhood people to her house and she would

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share with them all the things she had learned at school and on her travels.

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So she goes and she looks at these houses because she decides she wants to do it in Chicago.

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I can't help but notice that the houses have faces.

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Yes, the houses have faces and they're very sad and they have mustaches.

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These are indeed sad houses and old.

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These are old sad houses.

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Big noses and beards and mustaches.

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Yeah, it's horrifying.

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The slum is the scariest place imaginable.

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Do not take a psychedelic and read this book.

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It will fuck you up.

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Okay, so they look and look and then they finally find a house that is suitable for their needs.

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Not a sad house.

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Not a sad house, but a happy house.

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It was run down.

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Oh, there it is, she cried.

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It is just what I've been looking for.

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Oh, stop.

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Stop right here.

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Mr. Pond stopped and stared.

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At that house, he said, why that's the old hole mansion.

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It's pretty run down.

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But it's a lovely house and it can be fixed up.

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Tell me about the holes.

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Will they rent me?

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So she went and she talked to Miss Culver, who was the lady who owned the house.

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And she agreed to rent the house to them for a mere dollar a year.

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So she was like, we like, we like the cut of your jib.

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I think we like the work you're going to do.

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So we're just going to give you this for dirt cheap.

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Pretty much.

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So Holstead Street was an elegant one.

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My cousin Charles built at that house, she said.

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So they decided, okay, so the old lady, she went to go visit this old, this old bitty,

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and she decides to rent her the house and also later becomes one of the sponsors of this house.

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Right.

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So Jane agrees to pay for all the repairs that it needs.

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And she agrees to pretty much rent to her rent free.

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What are you going to call the place?

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It already has a name, Jane said.

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It's Hull House.

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Yep, and this is the part I know about.

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So these two ladies start fixing up this house and building up the neighborhood

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and bringing all her lovely, expensive furniture.

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So yeah, I just want to say, was she really on her hands and knees doing all this work

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or was she mostly using her money to get people to do this work for her?

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I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure she did a lot of it.

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I mean, that would, from what I know about the real woman,

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she would track that she got her hands dirty.

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This woman got her hands dirty quite a bit in real life.

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I just didn't know if like this stage.

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Yeah, I mean, they show her on her hands and knees scrubbing the floor.

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So and what I could gather on her Wikipedia page, this tracks with who she was.

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It tracks what I know about her, which is later in life.

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Yeah.

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I know more about her when she was like middle and later age.

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Yeah, this is her her humble beginnings.

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So she starts lavishly furnishing this house so she could

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um, have a nice place for the neighborhood together.

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Jane did her shopping in a little grocery store down the street,

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and she told the grocer that she hoped neighbors would come visit her.

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As she came and went from the grocery store, she spoke to the children.

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She asked if they would like to come and play at her house.

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The children were polite, but they were very suspicious.

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Yeah.

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Why does this old lesbian want to talk to me?

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But anyhow, eventually this lady shows up with her children.

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A dark haired young woman stood on the steps.

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She had a baby in her arms and a little girl clung to her skirts.

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The grocer said, You might help me.

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She said her voice was low and soft.

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She spoke with an accent.

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Jane knew right away that she was Italian.

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I have to work, said the young woman.

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If I miss work, I will be fired.

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My friend who takes care of my children today, she is sick.

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I have no place to leave my baby.

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And you're my little girl.

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You do have a place, said Jane.

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You can leave them with us, but we'll be glad to look after them.

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After all, we are neighbors, aren't we?

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So Jane started with just kind of like babysitting.

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So I'll babysit for immigrant worker women, because that idea that I always,

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I always laugh whenever people talk about how it's like in modern times, you know,

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after World War II, and, you know, and women started having jobs,

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and then this idea of having, you know, a two income household,

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it's like you're talking about middle class and up.

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Poor women have been had jobs and been working their ass off

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since the beginning of civilization.

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So it's like these, these poor immigrant women had horrible jobs,

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working long hours for nothing.

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Oh, yeah.

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And it gets worse from here.

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So they kind of, the book kind of just makes it seem like it was a nice,

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happy place that they kind of babysat.

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Take care, we're running.

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Yeah.

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I see a little boy dressed up as a knight with a sword.

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Yeah.

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So yeah, they started recruiting more people.

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Their friend Ginny came to stay and help with them.

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Abduct more children.

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Soon other friends came and there were other projects at Hall House.

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There were clubs where the older children could learn sewing and cooking and dancing.

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There were games for the older boys, so they wouldn't get into mischief.

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There were plays and songs for everyone.

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Hall House was the beginning of what Jane had dreamt it to be,

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a place where the people came to visit and relax,

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to get to know one another and enjoy themselves and learn interesting things.

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Okay, and that's all well and good.

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But let me tell you a little bit about this house.

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Yeah, I mean, I know a little bit about Hall House and what it was like, what its mission was.

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Yeah, well, now granted, again, this is the beginning of it.

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But in its heyday, the house had 25 residents and was visited by about 2000 people per week,

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which is a good numberly amount of people.

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The women at Hall House were well educated and committed to labor unions,

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the National Consumers League and the suffrage movement.

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Hall House included a night school, clubs, a public kitchen, an art gallery,

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a gym, a public library.

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Hall House used its methodology to study things like overcrowding, truancy, typhoid fever,

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cocaine, children's reading, newsboys, infant mortality and midwifery.

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Midwifery, midwifery, and newsies.

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Yes, and newsies, because they wanted these kids to stay out of trouble.

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And so again, she's talking to her imaginary friend.

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You've done so much for them, Jane, said Marjorie.

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They've done just as much for me, Jane answered.

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They've accepted me.

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I'm a real neighbor now, and that means a lot.

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Now I can harvest their souls for my dark master.

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Mm hmm.

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So time goes on and the whole house became better known and people in wealthier areas came to work.

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So more and more people came in.

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And in December, when the cold winds rustled through the corners

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of the street, gifts began to arrive at Hall House.

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We're going to have a marvelous Christmas, cried Jane.

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Look at the turkeys and the potatoes and barrels of apples and boxes and boxes of candy.

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Won't the children love it?

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So they're getting ready for Christmas.

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They have all this extravagant shit.

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They're really excited.

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And so they decided to have a party.

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Two days before Christmas, there was a party for the girls.

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They all came.

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Jane thought they looked very tired, but was glad to see them once again.

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They sang carols and they exchanged little gifts.

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And then it was time for supper.

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Jane had planned everything carefully.

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There was sandwiches and cookies and there was hot chocolate.

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And of course, there was plenty of candy.

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After all, boxes and boxes of sweets had been sent to Hull House.

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But then Jenny Dow frowned and Jane looked puzzled.

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The girls won't touch the candies.

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They didn't seem very happy about the cookies and hot chocolate either.

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Finally, Jane and Ellen and Jenny learned what had happened.

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The girls had been working in the candy factory nearby.

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14 hours a day, six days a week.

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They had been sitting in a crowded airless room, wrapping caramels.

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They were sick of the sight and sick of the smell.

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This just reminds us of our bleak, horrible lives.

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Yes, actually.

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At first, they see the kids wrapping candy and eating candy happily,

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which I'm sure that's exactly what happened.

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Yeah.

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Everybody knows those factories were just great for the 10-year-olds who worked at them.

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Yeah.

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So anywho, Jane didn't like this for shit.

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This child labor is bullshit.

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Child labor is bullshit.

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So Jane and her friends began to write letters and legislator about what had happened.

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Laws have to be passed against this sort of thing, Jane said.

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Children have to be protected.

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No, that's just interfering with the free market.

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Yeah.

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And they said that the factories wouldn't like it.

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And she said, fuck the factories, child labor bad.

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So she actually went and passed and went and changed labor laws.

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But don't you worry, those labor laws are being loosened right now.

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Oh my God.

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The children, the immigrant children who are working at the meatpacking plants.

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Oh yeah.

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Like they're like, those were the good old days.

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We need to get back to them.

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All right.

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Anyway, back to this adorable children's book.

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Yes.

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So they kind of gloss over it, but yeah, Jane and her colleagues founded the juvenile protection

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agency or I'm sorry, juvenile protection association.

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In 1901.

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The GPA, JP, JPA.

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I see a trash cat.

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So she passed new labor laws and she was very happy.

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And the factory owners were not happy.

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Yup.

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Now that that's taken care of, maybe I can do something about the garbage in the streets.

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Said Jane it's unhealthy and it smells terrible.

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She's just here to solve one problem at a time.

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The garbage men simply aren't doing their jobs.

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So Jane being Jane got a job as the garbage inspector for her area and started making

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them clean up the streets.

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It's like, are you lazy assholes?

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Lazy assholes.

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And so, yeah, she became a garbage inspector and, um, would take no shit from no one.

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And the streets got cleaner and health conditions improved.

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She made the garbage men her bitch.

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Pretty much.

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After that, Jane never stopped fighting.

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She worked all her life for the poor people who were her friends.

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It was because of Jane that the first playground was built into Chicago.

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It was because of Jane that more schools were built in the city.

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And it was partly because of her, that women got the right to vote, which by the way, that's

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all we get for the suffrage movement.

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That's not like, that's not that a noteworthy accomplishment.

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No, not at all.

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Jane had very advanced ideas for the time.

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She even tried to get people to organize country camps so that city children could have a vacation

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in the open fields and in the forest.

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In time, Jane became, became famous people in other cities, copied her ideas and began

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to build settlement houses in poor areas.

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Senators and prime ministers and princesses and princes came to visit whole house and

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to talk to Jane once, even the president of the United States.

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So apparently, she was a supporter of Teddy Roosevelt and was called the mother of social

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work.

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Yep.

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And as we discussed in our epic two-part Francis Perkins series, a huge influence on, on Francis

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Perkins.

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Yeah, she was a pretty bad-ass lady.

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And I am horribly disappointed that this tale doesn't end with her, you know, accepting

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Jesus and tossing her satanic doll into a bonfire.

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Now she didn't need to accept Jesus.

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She was a member of the social Christian movement.

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Yes, I'm actually aware of that in real life.

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I was making a joke about the horrifying doll in the kid's book.

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Yeah, no, actually, the Christian social movement is one of those things that people

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don't talk about much, that once upon a time, there was a very strong movement in American

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Christianity that was all about the Bernie Sanders style of getting things done.

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Yeah.

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And again, this woman was totally bad ass, but she also had some really shitty ideas

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about eugenics and prohibition.

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So no one's all good ever.

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Well, there is all that.

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But I did love that they called her first, they mentioned her first lesbian lover, but

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the sex, she actually had a second one who she later referred to as her wife, like they

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were considered themselves a married couple.

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And that was Mary rosart Smith.

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But again, we're not getting that little antidote in the children's book doesn't want to talk

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about her lesbian adventures in all it really doesn't imagine that instead we just get the

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fucking clown doll, we get the fucking clown doll and we don't understand the clown doll.

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And we'll close out with, you may decide that it's important to be able to give friendship,

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it's also important to be able to accept it, just like our good friend Jane Adams.

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Okay, well, okay.

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So the first part that I'm going to say in the historical facts, it says Jane Adams was

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born in Cedarville, first of all, her name was Laura James Adams.

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Her first name was actually Laura, but went by her middle name of Jane.

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So that's the first thing that they cut out.

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Okay.

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Any other notables from the biography?

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Honestly, they didn't give a biography like they did in the last one.

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It's literally just a sum up of what they already told you in the book.

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It's just like more of this is just this more of the same.

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The only thing they all Jane soon found that there were needs of the slums, which were

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that there were needs of the slums, which settlement houses could not meet.

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Children were working in sweet shops.

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So Jane sweatshops, maybe.

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Yes, sorry.

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Well, no, they did work in sweet shops.

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They did work in sweet shops.

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But yes, it actually says sweatshops.

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But I read it as sweet because they were in the candy factory.

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I was like, first, I thought I was wasting, I actually corrected you.

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And then it may not be corrected because it was a sweet shop.

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It was a sweet shop and a sweatshop.

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It was both.

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So she changed.

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She fought for child labor laws.

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Um, and like I said, they glossed over her.

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They have the whole women's suffrage thing.

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They glossed over that because maybe the people who wrote the book and think that was maybe

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quite as a big deal.

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People were being injured in factories.

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So she urged Congress to pass laws governing safety conditions.

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She campaigned for American education, day nurseries, better houses, better housing and

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women's suffrage.

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Her fame and influence spread.

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She became a recipient of the first honorary degree ever bestowed on a woman by Yale university

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and president Theodore Roosevelt called her America's most useful citizen.

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Nice.

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In 1931, Jane was awarded the Nobel peace prize.

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She died four years later on May 21st, 1935.

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She was almost 75 and still a resident at a hall house and a friend to her neighbors

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on Halstead street.

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Cause that's the value of friendship.

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Cause the value of friendship, not the value of working your ass off for shit.

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I believe it.

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I said that.

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I mean, it's like the value of friendship.

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There's really not like a single strong overriding friendship with the friendship of her and

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her doll.

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Yeah.

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I mean, again, she had strong friendships.

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I mean, she was told, I mean, they, they glot it's her special friend, Ellen, which

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is the value of lesbians is really what we should get out of this.

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Lesbian progressive lesbians rock.

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And we need more of them.

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Yeah.

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I mean, she was totally cool.

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One of the things about hall house that I remember was this whole idea that everything

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wasn't just about giving material aid, but it was literally about giving dignity and

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quality of life and enriching the lives of poor people and letting them know you're allowed

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to have as rich a life as it shouldn't just be all you do as work.

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And then you, then you sleep and then you die.

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And it was awesome.

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I mean, they provided night schools for the adults, educational opportunities, also social

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activities and encouragement for, for the wealthier people to come and actually like

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socially mingle with the poor people in a way that wasn't at all normal or a thing in

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the regular.

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No, when it humanized them and it also, they taught trade so they could get higher paid

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jobs.

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There was a sheer networking thing.

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It's like eventually some of these poor people could meet wealthier people who could give

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them opportunities to realize, Hey, there's a lot of value in these people.

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So it was, it was a number of levels of what was going on with the settlement houses.

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And she, you know, she was the one who started them here in the United States.

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Yeah.

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She was a really bad-ass chick who was really just reduced to talking to her imaginary psychotic

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doll, the ugly, crazy woman of this book, pretty much as opposed to the bad-ass lesbian

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who helped women get the right to vote.

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Yeah.

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Oh, well.

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Well, I guess we did it.

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We, we covered another one of these damn books.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I can't wait for anyone to actually scroll through and see the pictures of Marjorie

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that's all, it's so unsettling.

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We will show the horrifying doll.

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The horrifying doll is really the most horrifying thing I've seen in these books so far.

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And they've been pretty scary.

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