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"My robot had an accident on the carpet!"

Join us this week as we discuss the newest installment in Call of Cthulhu, "Dust and Blood".

Then, we discuss robots! And if you want to know about what happened with the accident (and yes, it did!) - check out this week's show!

Bill Sikkens, Bill Snodgrass, Gretchen Winkler

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Welcome to

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User Friendly 2.0 with host Bill Sikkens,

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technology architect.

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And this is User Friendly 2.0, as always

I am your host Bill Sikkens.

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Joining me my co-host Gretchen.

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Bill, welcome to this week's show.

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Hello there.

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Hello. So what's new and exciting?

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Gretchen, I understand you just started

hating the new Star Wars episode.

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Oh, really?

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Are you on something?

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I was traveling to an alternate quantum

universe that that was the case,

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so, you know.

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Oh, I wasn't watching acolyte, okay?

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I was watching all this amazing.

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Yeah, I'm not sure

there is a quantum universe where I had.

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Never mind.

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I better not say that

we will get some call. That

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the wall continues to be good and, it

definitely

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is something that, I've actually turned

Disney back on right now so I can see it.

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And we'll have to talk about it again

in a couple weeks.

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But, you're up the next two episodes,

so it is worth out there.

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And, Bill, I hear you have something

you're going to be telling us about today.

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Yep. Some Call of Cthulhu dropped

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recently, and I got, to review it. Cool.

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And for the listeners

that sent in questions

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on the last interview with that, I have

them and I will, take the hint for this.

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I forgot to give them to Bill,

but I'll compile them from this one,

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and then we can go ahead and go through

that a few weeks down the road.

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But we have I just,

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well, anyway, moving

right on playing with robots. Yes.

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I haven't played robots.

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And, we're going to be talking about that

in the next segment.

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We're doing a Stem presentation

or just get a Stem presentation

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here in Oregon

and wanted to get these robots up

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and running, which are actually prototypes

from something I was doing in the past,

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and we got it.

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But boy, it was fighting us

at every step of the way.

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So we'll be anyway.

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We'll be talking about that

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in the next segment,

because it's kind of an interesting story.

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All right.

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Well, before all of that,

let's go ahead and jump in.

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And what do we have in the news this week.

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All right.

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The blue light from your phone

isn't ruining your sleep.

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So I've heard of the blue screen of death.

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But now we have the blue light of death.

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Don't remember that years ago. Is it?

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So? Don't.

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Yeah.

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I have your phone before you go to bed.

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I was being sarcastic.

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I was trying to put two different things

together there.

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That is the blue screen of death

from windows.

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Never. Mike.

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So anyway, as Gretchen just mentioned,

it was covered,

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a few years ago now

I think it would be like 3 or 4, probably.

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I'm no longer than that.

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Yeah, yeah, it's.

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Jeremy was alive and actually the

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when we did that interview we were back

is still in the studio.

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So that would have been pre-COVID

actually. So yeah. Okay.

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So like six years ago.

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Anyway,

this idea that the blue light coming from

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your phone was why you aren't

going to sleep at night when you sit

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and use your phone or tablet

before you go to bed.

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And they came out with apps

that turned off the blue light.

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And we're doing all these different things

and study has come out now

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that that might not be all

that's going on.

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In fact,

that might not be what's going on at all.

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Reporting from the BBC on this.

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There have been more studies done on it.

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And the idea is that

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you might be dealing with something

where when you do stuff on your phone,

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it's causing all kinds of other reasons

why you wouldn't fall asleep.

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And it has nothing to do

with the frequency of the light.

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Now, blue light when you are outside

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is something that does trigger system

to say, hey, it's time to be awake now.

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So there is some truth to that.

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It's why when you go outside and,

it's a bright, sunny day,

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you feel like a, it's a bright, sunny day

and I can do that.

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But the amount of blue light

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being contributed by the phone

is very, very minimal, for one thing.

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So they've been looking into some of

the other things and are now seeing that.

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Well, you know, first of all,

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if you're doing something on the phone

that's going to keep you awake,

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you're playing a game or chatting

with somebody or whatever you're thinking,

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thinking, yeah, yeah, that's a little bit

different than reading a book

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or something of that nature.

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And one of the other things

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that was outlined here

is that if you're on a Kindle or a nook

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or some other kind of an e-reader

or even your phone or tablet,

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and just reading a book

that doesn't seem to have the same effect

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on causing you

not to be able to go to sleep.

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Now, I didn't see in the study

if they've actually compared Kindle, etc.

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to a book and to see

if there's an actual difference,

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they are off to do some research,

and I'm sure somebody has done that,

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but it's more having to deal

with the fact that it wakes you up

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when you're looking at something

and there's some headline

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that you're thinking about or upset about,

or you're trying to figure out

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how to play a game and, you know, that

kind of thing takes some concentration

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or chatting with somebody.

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And, you know, we're seeing a lot of

effects from these type of things.

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Social media,

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we've talked about this in the past

is now illegal for children in Australia.

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There's other countries

that are looking at this

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and probably following suit

because it's having some positive signs,

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some problems too.

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But you know, that kind of a thing.

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But all of this kind of stuff

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is not

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conducive to trying to relax

and go to sleep.

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So the blue light of death probably not.

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And there's

a lot of other things involved.

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And I'd say if you're really interested

into a deep dive in this,

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check out the BBC

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article that goes into a lot more detail

than what we could cover here,

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and is written by people to understand

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the psychology of these things,

which is not me. So.

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But at the end of the day, it is

interesting to see where this is going.

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I will give you the 10,000ft view

collusion in this, conclusion in this.

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And it's just this idea

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if you want to go to sleep and

not have a problem, don't use your phone

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within about two hours

of when you want to go to sleep.

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Even watching television,

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which is something

that is not recommended, is still better

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than some of the stuff

that would be on the phone.

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Unless you're reading

and that's all you're doing.

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If you have the discipline to do that.

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My problem is, if I'm on a device

and reading and a message

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pops up or something, I'm

probably going to look at it, you know?

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Yeah.

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Which is one of the nice things about the

Kindle or the nook is it doesn't do that.

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So, you know, you know,

those paper books don't do that either.

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Yeah, they don't do that either.

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And I still to this day, I like reading

an actual book, a paper book.

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But there are certain things,

if I'm traveling or whatnot,

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that having the Kindle or related is nice.

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You're not having to carry a book.

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But yeah, I don't know.

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There's still I still find that

I like that better usually.

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Unfortunately, being a little bit lazy,

there are times that I want to read

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something or hey, the new books out

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not want to wait for it to be delivered

because, you know,

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Amazon would take like two hours

to get it to me.

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So, then you have to download it

immediately to the Kindle,

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which is one of the other problems

in the modern world is we don't shut off.

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You know, the idea of something like that

is, we need it now.

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That instant gratification behavior and.

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Yeah, and it all contributes.

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So question

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if they're

saying the blue light is minimal,

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does that mean that it's not affecting us

with those people who go out there

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and buy the fancy, glasses

that, are yellow lenses?

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You know, reduce

fatigue is what they call fatigue.

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Yahtzee.

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And this is the thing

the BBC article did touch upon that.

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And I actually have a pair

of those glasses

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from back when this was a, you know,

something that was really going out.

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So what they do is basically,

use yellow phosphor

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and it's screens out the color

and that and it seems to be

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what they're talking about here

is there's a difference in fatigue

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versus something that's happening

to keep you from falling asleep.

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And that might sound a little bit weird,

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but it's kind of like the idea of I'm

so tired, I can't fall asleep.

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So there is still some science

behind the idea that using the yellow

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glasses will reduce strain on your eyes,

which is a good thing to do.

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I, I at least I would think.

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But as far as it being effective

is blocking

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blue light before going to sleep

and making it easier to fall asleep.

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No, there doesn't seem to be a correlation

there, so there's still a use for them.

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It's just not in the original use case.

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Yeah,

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well, Adobe fixes

an actively exploited Acrobat Reader flaw.

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You know, we're hearing about this stuff

a lot more.

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Chrome browser had this recently.

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And again

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what happens with these kind of flaws

is it creates an opening that a hacker,

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if they know about it, can run code

on your computer, which is a bad thing

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because they can get to your data

and stuff

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without you knowing about it, or introduce

viruses, or on business machines

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that are just malware or ransomware,

you know, all that kind of stuff.

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And,

the tracking number for this, for those

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that want to know, is CVE 2026 34621.

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And basically what you want to do here

is make sure that you have updated

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your Adobe Acrobat,

both the free and the paid versions.

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That affects the ones for the platforms,

for both Windows and Mac OS and all three

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cases, Acrobat DC, Acrobat Reader DC,

and then full Acrobat:

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So if you're on a Google or Google,

if you're on a, cloud subscription,

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for Creative Cloud with Adobe,

it should have auto updated.

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Now, I will tell you one thing

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that I have found that

that doesn't always happen immediately.

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So for something like this,

it would be worth logging

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into your Creative Cloud account

or your Adobe account.

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And there's a thing

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where you can get to the updates

and manually push the update through.

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Because again,

you're looking at something here

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that exploited, you wouldn't know what's

going on or that this is even happening.

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And let's face it,

a lot of us use Acrobat is kind of the go

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to standard for documents,

so it's not something that's unusual.

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All right.

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Artemis two trip around

the moon was a huge success.

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Now what?

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Well, you know, and I was reading the,

the thing on this is,

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everything went kind of according to plan.

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They didn't land on the moon.

Of course, on this.

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It was just more of a testing mission.

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But they did

get out the farthest that you need.

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Humans, supposedly have been out.

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Now, if you watch the original Star Trek,

you know, there's some humans that

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are beaming around and stuff in the 1960s,

but I don't think this includes that.

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So basically what happened

is they launched,

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the flight went pretty much

without things.

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They went around to the back of the moon,

had lunch with aliens.

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I hear artichokes was on the list.

Okay. Maybe not.

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I don't want to text.

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I like learned jokes.

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Yeah, I like artichokes, too.

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That wasn't the part that week.

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Maybe not the maybe the eight

hour jokes left to ask, but,

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and and then came back around

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and, got back

and there splashed down without a lot.

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So what's next on this?

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Well, Artemis three

and this mission will most likely

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include landing once again on the moon.

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And right now

there are bidding on the contract.

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Space X, as well as what is a blue,

not blue moon.

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I don't think it's what he called

the origin of blue origin.

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Thank you.

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I know it is blue Moon. Bezos. Okay.

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Interesting name, I guess. Blue horizon.

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So that does make sense.

And anything blue is better anyway.

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So, at the end of the day, these are the

two companies, among some others

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that are bidding on this because a lot of

this is being privatized now.

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But at the end of the day, what's going

to happen here is they are going to start

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doing some test flights

and get them ready to actually land again.

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And this time there are some ideas

of looking at actually doing a lunar base

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and what the requirements

would be for something like that,

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and it would be first colony off

Earth, you know, just

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where would they put it,

do you think on the on the lighted side

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or the dark side

of the dark side of the moon?

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I believe that was a Pink Floyd album

anyway.

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Yeah, but but the thing is, I thought

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there was problems,

like with Solar radiation.

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And actually the question is valid.

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And if you think back

to a couple of weeks ago

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we talked about this,

that they were finding areas on the moon

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that are on the light side

that seem to be blocking the Earth's

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magnetic field and some other things

from as much radiation.

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So in a perfect situation,

you would want solar light.

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You know,

because it can power things and whatnot,

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but you don't want to become radioactive

as a part of it.

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And unfortunately, you will not turn out

like Radioactive Man on The Simpsons.

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It doesn't work that way.

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So, you know, so

they're looking at some different things.

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I don't believe they've come up and said,

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this is where

we're going to build the base yet.

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But I think

all things are being considered.

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The other thing about the back

side of the moon, too, is communication.

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You would have to put

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in some kind of a communication

relay and all kinds of stuff.

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So there's more to do.

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If you were going to use something

like that, but it would effectively,

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I don't know if it stopped completely,

but certainly minimize

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the radiation problem.

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So we'll of course, be keeping on top of

this because it's an interesting thing.

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And it's kind of cool to be back

out there again, you know?

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Yeah, it feels better.

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There's something about the

the whole exploration of space

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in our area around us.

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I think we need to learn more. Yeah.

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Several dozen high value

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corporations hit by a new extortion

crew in help desk Michigan spree.

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So the Register's reporting on this.

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And what is going on is the bad guys

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have figured out this isn't even really

a hack in the classic sense.

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It's social engineering.

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Check out war games.

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You can see what that is.

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But a nutshell description of it

is it's the idea

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that you call somebody and you're able

to get information from them.

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So a modern phishing attack

would be an example of social engineering.

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You get a text from somebody

and you click on it.

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And that is now, you know, getting

private data in that kind of a thing.

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So you're kind of doing this in reverse

and trying to get information from

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the help desk.

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And it seems to be working.

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So the live chats and some of these other

type of things are causing companies

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like Google and others to sit down

and become more aware of it.

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Now, one of the things

that is an issue here

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is that for the most part, I won't say

everybody because I don't know,

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but for the most part, help desks

and call centers and stuff are outsourced.

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A lot of big companies do that,

and it might be

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that you're actually talking to somebody

on the other side of the planet.

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When you talk to the help desk.

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So being able to lock down on these

types of things

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can become more of an issue

in those type of environments,

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because a lot of this stuff

works by the person on the help.

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This is given a script

when you ask a question,

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especially if it's like tech support

or something, they go through the script,

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but there isn't really

a lot of training done on

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other things.

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So if you have someone savvy, call

and start doing these type of things,

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whether it's through phishing,

through some electronic thing,

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or even just the call itself or the chat

or whatever, it can be problematic.

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So it's going to be interesting

to see how this gets resolved.

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And it's just another thing to think of

if you think about a helpdesk

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and you're a customer or whatever

of the company that you're talking to,

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your information is available

to the helpdesk operator.

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So it is a valid source

to be able to get information like that.

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All right.

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Mono cab in Europe helps isolated

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places get transport.

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So kind of an interesting concept.

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This is being prototyped in Germany.

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And like here in Europe

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there are a lot of underused

or even disused railroad lines.

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And there's a lot of enthusiasts

just go on to YouTube

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and type in abandoned rail lines

and you'll find just tons of information,

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a lot of it's fun to watch too, you know,

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because you go places people haven't seen

and all that kind of thing.

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Well, but they've come up here

with is a kind of car.

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The monarch cab is called that

because it uses one rail.

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So this would work on regular lines.

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Just use lines, narrow gauge lines,

all that kind of stuff.

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And basically what it does

is it allows you to use these

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existing tracks to put product or people

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or whatever would be needed, to areas

that wouldn't be efficiently

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served by having a full railroad

going out to them,

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and especially in Europe,

a lot more than the United States.

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Trains are used a lot,

but like anywhere else,

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you have a situation

where it has to make financial sense.

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Unless you're Portland with Trump,

never mind.

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It has to make financial sense

to run your rail line.

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You know, and, at the end of the day,

something like

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this is a lot more efficient

because for one thing, you could use

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one set of rails for

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traffic going in both directions

because only use the one on the right.

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So that's kind of cool.

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The efficiency is much better

because they're lighter,

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you know, and that type of thing.

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So your fuel and all of

that is a lot less than what's used.

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And then you can also

have flexible scheduling.

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So unlike a classic train

where you're taking the train somewhere,

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this little tiny car could be set to leave

and come back as needed.

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But kind of an on demand train in a sense.

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Yeah,

that's what I got. The impression of.

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When I saw it, I was like, oh,

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so it's, you know, it's

kind of an interesting thing.

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They're not really deployed yet.

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It is being tested out right now.

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The other thing

is, is getting integration with,

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train lines that are still used so

you don't have an accident or something,

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you know, that kind of a thing.

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But these autonomous rail pods could

really be something that could be used.

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And even, on this side of the pond

in the United States,

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I could see having passenger rail service

available to places that it hasn't been

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just because it wasn't

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cost effective to do it for so long

using conventional trains.

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So, you know, it is really something

that is kind of cool.

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All right.

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We've got two other topics we're going to

get into in this segment at least.

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But before I want

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we do that I want to mention that,

Cyber hawk Rights of Heroes is out.

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And Gretchen, I have just got word back

from the publishers

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that your book is now on.

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All of your books are now available

for purchase on Amazon.

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Barnes and Noble, Walmart's

now carrying them, and pretty all right.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Go to walmart.com

and type in the name of your book.

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It's right there. Ready to order.

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So what what at what point do I

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it can I walk into a store and see them?

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Well,

you know that that's another question.

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I think the first place

you're probably going to see that is

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Barnes and Noble, but,

Oh, I got some information on that.

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But the kind of broader question

that you're asking there is, yes,

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there is a point

where that will be a thing

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where you can just buy it off the shelf.

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So, at least that's the direction

we're going.

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So, Gretchen,

congratulations to you on that.

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Oh, thank you.

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All right.

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Couple of questions that have come in

that are interesting and

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kind of a little bit weird

when you start thinking about them

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is the first one airline ticket pricing.

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Now we get asked about this all the time.

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And one of the rumors

that was coming up with this idea

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that the device you're using

will set the price of the tickets.

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In fact, we talked about this

a few weeks ago, and I decided

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to deep dive into this

and figure out what's actually going on.

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And I got to tell you,

I couldn't find any confirmation

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that when I was using an iPhone

or an Android phone

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or my ten year old tablet,

that that changed the price.

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But I'll tell you one thing

that did your location.

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If I went on and got ticket prices

sitting here in Oregon

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and I went on the VPN

and connected to a foreign country

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or something, in that case,

there was a huge difference in the prices.

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Same flight.

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And yes, you can book the tickets

either way, but where you are does seem to

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be the case where, the one of the places

I tried was a city in Mexico,

403

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and I found that

the same trip was about $80 less.

404

:

Oh, I was in there.

405

:

So then I vpn into a server that was just

outside of Beverly Hills, right?

406

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So it's more than Oregon.

407

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And this is all at the same time of day

and all of that.

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So, you know, it's

at least a controllable thing.

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So there is some truth to being,

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you know, vigilant about this.

411

:

Because again, when you buy and now

where you buy from does make a difference.

412

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So do a little research and figure out

what time of day is the best.

413

:

And maybe investing in a VPN on

some of the stuff, especially

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if you're doing a more expensive flight

and with flights going up.

415

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So much now, it is worth checking out.

416

:

You know?

417

:

So the second question that we get asked

a lot is on state government

418

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selling records, and this isn't the kind

you play on your phonograph either.

419

:

And there's a debate

that's been going on on this because it

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is making money for governments,

which is why they're doing this.

421

:

And it's the idea

422

:

that and this isn't the only department,

but I'm going to pick on it

423

:

just because it's

the one that seems to do it

424

:

the most is that, third

party can buy DMV records.

425

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And what can they get from the DMV?

426

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Well, your driver's license number,

your picture, your Social Security number,

427

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your home address,

you know, and all of the rest of that.

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The expiration date of the ID.

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Now, what could a bad

guy do with that information?

430

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You know,

431

:

when you think

of selling our Social Security numbers.

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What a bunch of idiots. Yeah, well, they.

433

:

And that and that is certainly one

side of the argument.

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And I think a very good side.

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Now to

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:

put this in a little bit of context,

there is a thing called the Driver's

437

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Privacy Protection

Act. It's a federal law.

438

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I'm not an attorney.

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There are others that can explain that

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better than I could,

but it does set down a framework for this.

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But it doesn't ban users.

442

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So what it says is permissible uses

can include sales to insurance companies,

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auto manufacturers,

private investigators, law enforcements,

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and then in some states, data brokers

and marketers.

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I'm not sure what the limit would be

if that last one is on your list.

446

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Is it would.

447

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But you know, come up with that.

448

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So your information isn't public.

449

:

Exactly.

450

:

It's just for sale

under specific conditions to the public.

451

:

Anyway, well, look, I mean,

452

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any idiot can go and register

a name of a business

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that has the word insurance in it

and pretend to be an insurance person.

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If, well, or just not even do that.

455

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Just get your personal information

and use it for other reasons.

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I mean, you know,

but I see what you're saying, Gretchen.

457

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It's like, you know,

there was a problem a while back when,

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they were looking into things where,

you want to order a controlled substance,

459

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not like a drug, but like mercury or

something, you know, that type of thing.

460

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Or, viral samples.

461

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This started

coming to light in the Covid era.

462

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Hey, dummy up some lever

head that says, you know,

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bills lab and send a credit card number.

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And in a lot of cases,

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the next day that sample was on its way

to you and nobody checked anything.

466

:

So I have there's also something

I came across personally

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where,

in order to get, a death certificate,

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you had to go through some extra agency

and they would charge you this fee,

469

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and then they would force you

to use a certain shipping.

470

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And and if you didn't do that,

then they, would charge you nothing.

471

:

But there was no guarantee that you would

actually get the the document you needed.

472

:

And that's the thing

about a lot of government agencies

473

:

and stuff related to that,

because you don't have the same level

474

:

and it's a monopoly

and that type of a thing.

475

:

So yeah, you'll run

into right into stuff like that.

476

:

And then this kind of goes

around the other day.

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So arguments in favor of it.

478

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Well by the government's revenue stream,

obviously

479

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fees are charged to record vault data

access or subscription subscriptions.

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That's nicely or always updated

on people's private information.

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And the other argument is,

is that, obviously data

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being sold to marketing firms that could

conceivably sell it to a third party

483

:

beyond that, you know,

and they say that they won't,

484

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but you know,

who knows what's actually going on?

485

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Yeah, I guarantee theft and stalking.

486

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And there's real world

examples of that kind of a thing.

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:

So anyway, that's what's out there.

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This is user friendly 2.0.

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We'll be back after the break

I you see him.

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He's from the future.

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He's got a really big computer

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and he uses it every day.

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And usually uses it in every way

you want to use it for.

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You know, I'm not sure because he uses he.

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Welcome back.

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This is user friendly 2.0.

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Check out our website user friendly

God show.

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It is your one

stop to find everything user friendly.

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And that includes Cyber Hawk cyber Hawk,

heroes.com is the website for that.

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Or as we were saying in the first segment,

check it out at Walmart, Amazon,

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Barnes and Noble

and anywhere else books are sold.

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All right.

503

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So let's dive right in here.

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Bill, you have a review

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on a book call of something.

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You better follow through live.

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Yeah,

I got, chaos zoom sent me over there.

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Latest, which is, call it Kathy Lou.

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Dust and Blood.

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It's, book containing two scenarios

that take place in Victorian London.

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The first one is about a group of people

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in a, dust yard, aka, trashy.

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If you don't know where the dust yard is

on this

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garbage dump.

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Yeah.

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And the second one,

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which is labeled

signs written Scarlet is a murder mystery

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which, ritualistic murders.

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Okay.

520

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Well, these sound like they would be fun

games to play.

521

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Tell us about you. What I mean

when these are actually playing.

522

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Bill, I know sometimes you do run

some of these campaigns.

523

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Currently,

I don't have the time to run this one.

524

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Of course, I just read through it.

525

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I found, the first one, Ashes to Ashes,

to be very good.

526

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It's, an introductory, as they put it.

527

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Even so, it's very simple,

very straightforward.

528

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Gets you involved

into how the mechanics of the game work.

529

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If you're a new player, or new lore

530

:

Keeper, which is a dungeon master

for those who don't know,

531

:

the second

one definitely jumps up the difficulty

532

:

by becoming much more open

ended, much more complex.

533

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Really

makes you think about what's going on,

534

:

makes you feel like an investigator

into a series of inside.

535

:

Oh, cool.

536

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I feel like Sherlock Holmes a little bit.

537

:

Me and the storylines

are actually really good.

538

:

I don't know these new ones.

539

:

I haven't seen them yet,

but I know in the past,

540

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I think they actually do a pretty

nice job.

541

:

There's depth to it, you know?

542

:

And, yeah, I think most people

like games like that that are better,

543

:

you know, there's more going on,

especially in the sense of what that is.

544

:

So this isn't just like this open world

and you make everything out.

545

:

There's actually a,

you know, a framework to it.

546

:

And within that framework,

a lot can happen.

547

:

And there's a lot that's been thought out

548

:

in advance and disagree with me

if you feel the opposite on this bill,

549

:

but it seems like been thought through

550

:

so that when you're dealing

with a given situation,

551

:

it's not like you're

having to just dream it up.

552

:

Yeah.

553

:

The setting that costume has created

for their Call of Cthulhu books

554

:

and, series, really does

bring in that, that H.P.

555

:

Lovecraft and other eldritch,

you know, and existential horror

556

:

and other kinds of things

really brings that into life in game.

557

:

So do you feel like you're pulled

into that era,

558

:

that time here, that late 1800s?

559

:

Yes. There.

560

:

The especially in this one.

561

:

Dustin blood.

562

:

Uses a lot of verbiage and words that,

563

:

you know, really

bring you into it and very,

564

:

Yeah, it just really does,

immerse you with it.

565

:

Cool.

566

:

So a question that came in,

and so I'm just thinking of it now,

567

:

so I might throw this out at you.

568

:

Is that series done like D&D beyond?

569

:

Is it electronic?

Do you buy physical books? Is it both?

570

:

You can buy physical and PDFs.

571

:

I believe there's a couple of sites

that are similar

572

:

to D&D beyond,

in that you can build characters.

573

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But I don't believe they're like

574

:

D&D beyond where you have to buy the books

and stuff for it and things like that.

575

:

You have to have that ahead of time.

576

:

Right? Right. Okay.

577

:

I just it's a curiosity

that we tend to get asked a lot.

578

:

And I think what it is is gamers

go into two camps.

579

:

Some, like the electronics

580

:

and some like the,

you know, doing it with a physical book.

581

:

And it seems like a lot of the different

publishers address that in different ways,

582

:

which is why I figured

I'd ask you on this one, because.

583

:

So it sounds like you can get it

electronically, but you would still be

584

:

playing a game with a character sheet

and that type of thing.

585

:

Yeah, it's designed for in-person

play more than online.

586

:

I haven't done it online. That's

the only way I've been able to do it.

587

:

And, sites like Roll20

handle it very, very well.

588

:

Okay.

589

:

And that's inset,

590

:

character sheets and stuff like that

that are set up.

591

:

You do have to have, you know, the

592

:

at least the starter set, worth of rules,

which is free.

593

:

But I also like that

594

:

what they do is if I buy a physical book,

595

:

even though I can't

get the exact PDF of it,

596

:

I can get all of the, handouts, character

sheets, pre generated characters.

597

:

I can get all those digitally

so I can print those out for people.

598

:

Okay.

599

:

All right.

600

:

So it's that reference type thing there

and that's it.

601

:

If somebody wanted to look for a game

online another question that's coming in.

602

:

How do they do it? A

you mentioned roll 20.

603

:

Roll 20 has a looking for group, system

where you go through

604

:

and you look at games and that are posted

by people looking for players or DMs.

605

:

There are a number of other sites

that do the same thing.

606

:

Other Reddits.

607

:

I've heard some horror stories

about the Reddits

608

:

and, let's just say that in general.

609

:

I mean, oh, really?

610

:

Yeah.

611

:

So they can be kind of harsh

on that social media.

612

:

Yeah. So like,

613

:

oh, I've just

I've just heard a lot of stories

614

:

that sometimes it's, it's quite a,

615

:

get a show to get a good group.

616

:

But when you do, you land one.

617

:

I did

618

:

I have been with this group for over

five years.

619

:

We met on Roll20.

620

:

They had an amazing friends,

621

:

I believe anybody can do it.

622

:

It just might take some time.

I had some bad luck.

623

:

I had a group that I thought was

really good.

624

:

Ended up being,

pretty bad situation for me.

625

:

Wasn't for me.

626

:

After I left that again,

I found another group,

627

:

and it was just a matter of trying and

628

:

definitely sticking up for yourself.

629

:

You'll like something's off.

630

:

Talk to your DM about it.

631

:

Or other players I have. Yeah.

632

:

If it's all about,

you know, D and D is better.

633

:

Yeah. No, daddy is better than bad D.

634

:

Yeah, it's very true.

635

:

I know I ran into that when I was first

looking for a cyberpunk campaign,

636

:

and I want the characters to be cyberpunk,

not the players.

637

:

And that is exactly what I ran

into the first time.

638

:

It's like,

okay, this is just not going to work.

639

:

And, you know, but the thing of it is,

it wasn't like, don't do it this way.

640

:

You just need to find something

that you're going to fit better.

641

:

And there's a lot of options out there.

642

:

So yeah.

643

:

So you have to find the right chemistry

with the right personalities.

644

:

Yeah.

645

:

Oh, yeah.

646

:

And, so but you would recommend these.

647

:

I would

give them a shot if they worked for me.

648

:

They worked for a lot of other players.

649

:

Again,

there are going to be bad situations.

650

:

So, you know, look out for yourself.

651

:

And, again,

no, daddy is better than bad DP.

652

:

Yeah, agreed. 100%.

653

:

All right. Cool.

654

:

Well, if you've played this campaign

or others, let us know.

655

:

User friendly? Not sure.

656

:

We'd love to hear back from you

657

:

and what your experience has been

and any ideas or advice.

658

:

Please feel free to comment.

659

:

All right,

so he has promised in the opening robots

660

:

now, this has been an experience.

661

:

And there's two parts of this

that we're going to cover.

662

:

The first one is actually a story

that's out right now

663

:

with Major League Baseball.

664

:

And kind of an interesting connection

here, because the stuff

665

:

that's been circulating is they are

replacing the umpires with robots.

666

:

Okay. And like a lot of,

667

:

you know, rumors and

668

:

different things like that that get out

there, this is partially true.

669

:

There will still be human umpires,

but what they are experimenting with

670

:

is using a

AI robot to call balls and strikes.

671

:

And one of the areas

672

:

where there's a lot of controversy

and can make the difference in a game.

673

:

Who wins and loses, is that so?

674

:

Basically, what they're looking at doing

this year is putting together

675

:

a system where the,

and this is, this isn't like brand new.

676

:

You've probably heard of this

because it's been done

677

:

in some other places in the past.

678

:

But what it is, is the teams

get two challenges,

679

:

and if they make a challenge,

then they go to the AI.

680

:

If the team wins the challenge.

681

:

So they still have two challenges.

682

:

If they lose it,

then they only have one left and so on.

683

:

So the idea.

684

:

So they can't keep stopping

every five seconds or anything like that.

685

:

But on the same token,

if there's been a bad call made,

686

:

they have the ability to go back

and see what the AI

687

:

robot says it should be,

and then that's what it would be.

688

:

So, you know, one of the areas I noticed

this kind of thing was in the Olympics,

689

:

this last set of Olympics,

there was a lot more use of this type

690

:

of technology and different things.

691

:

And even just watching it,

you could see it.

692

:

Different camera angles.

693

:

You could get the close ups, you could,

you know, see the flash, what does it

694

:

photo finish as they used to call it,

all these different type of things.

695

:

So it is a lot more immersive.

696

:

And it seems like because just when

humans are involved, mistakes can be made.

697

:

And if a bad call is made, it cost

you the game and you really did it right.

698

:

I could see where

people would want to have a check on that.

699

:

Yeah.

700

:

Now the question is, is

do they eventually go to a full,

701

:

system

where the machine calls every pitch

702

:

or there are certainly arguments for

and against that.

703

:

And I can understand

both sides of the coin.

704

:

But the interesting thing about it

is, and unlike a lot of new technologies

705

:

where they've used this in the past,

it does seem to be accurate.

706

:

In fact, in the research

I was doing on this topic,

707

:

I didn't one down anything was blatantly

what it called it wrong.

708

:

And here's the example.

709

:

I mean, maybe that exists

710

:

and I just didn't see it,

but it didn't seem like a problem.

711

:

So, you know, it's professional sports.

712

:

There's a lot of money involved,

713

:

and therefore there's a lot of ability

to invest in different things.

714

:

And who wins and loses

is a big part of that.

715

:

So you do want it to be accurate.

716

:

So I'm not a huge baseball person.

717

:

And I would love to hear from

some of our listeners that are because

718

:

is this a good thing or a bad thing?

719

:

And the other thing

is, is some of the rules.

720

:

They're coming up with this

try to speed up the game.

721

:

And it makes me think a little bit of Star

Trek Deep Space Nine.

722

:

They were constantly talking

about how well baseball was too slow,

723

:

so it went away,

you know, in the 24th century.

724

:

But some people were trying to bring it

back.

725

:

So, you know, is that really a thing?

726

:

And does it make it better

727

:

versus from a standpoint of a fan

to be able to watch a game

728

:

if you don't have things like extra

innings or,

729

:

you know, some of the other things

that would slow down the process,

730

:

just curiosity, question

a throw out there.

731

:

So that's the official robot story.

732

:

Now here's the unofficial

personal experience robot story.

733

:

So we just did a Stem presentation and we

do these with the high schools and stuff.

734

:

To promote the idea of the fact

that we need engineers

735

:

if we're going to continue

living in the modern world,

736

:

having people that understand

how that works is a good thing.

737

:

Plus, it's an area where you can make

a very good living and that type of thing.

738

:

You have to be someone that's

739

:

willing to constantly update your skills

as things change, that kind of stuff.

740

:

But at the end of the day,

741

:

there's a lot of places to plug into this

and a lot of ones that are kind of fun,

742

:

you know?

743

:

And for my own standpoint,

I am a programmer

744

:

and I actually do enjoy that.

745

:

But I like the other stuff, too,

that I've been able to work with lately

746

:

that have involved things

like exoskeletons

747

:

that, you know, allow you to run fast

and all that kind of stuff,

748

:

and the whole being able to fly

like Iron Man experience.

749

:

It's been a positive.

750

:

I haven't come up

751

:

with a bad side of that at all yet,

and I don't think I ever will.

752

:

But these are all things that come from

the idea of Stem.

753

:

So within that we have two robots

that were originally prototypes

754

:

for another project.

755

:

We were working on that

we wanted to show off and

756

:

this was

back in:

757

:

And after we were done with them,

they went on a shelf and sat behind me.

758

:

In fact, behind

where I am in my studio here.

759

:

If you see the video version of this on

anything,

760

:

you'll have probably seen them in

some of those views.

761

:

So this year it's like,

okay, we're going to get them up

762

:

and running, finalize them.

763

:

And that should be no problem.

764

:

Started about a month ago on this link

and I had plenty of time.

765

:

Was working on this

until the night before our presentation

766

:

because it's like they fought me

the whole way.

767

:

You know, it was it was just an odd thing,

768

:

you know, got them both back out

and dusted them off, literally.

769

:

And then I thought, okay, I'm going to

770

:

go ahead and fire

these guys up and see if they work.

771

:

The software is probably out of date.

772

:

There's a was actually a new version

of Python, which is what these run on.

773

:

So there certainly were going to be

some things I needed to deal with.

774

:

Right.

775

:

And I talked about this

in a previous show,

776

:

but the first thing that happened

is the batteries blew up.

777

:

And what had happened was is one of the

778

:

robots has six legs and it was running it

779

:

and it hadn't been recalibrated yet

or anything been sitting on the shelf.

780

:

So one part of one of the legs

got caught on the top of the frame

781

:

and started pushing down.

782

:

And normally what would happen

is it's more and more of a current draw.

783

:

So you want some safety stuff in there

784

:

so it doesn't burn out the motor,

for one thing.

785

:

And usually that's in your power system

where the battery will turn off.

786

:

That's part of the safety that's supposed

to be in lithium ion batteries.

787

:

Right.

788

:

Well, the batteries

I got turned out to be fakes.

789

:

I mean, they were real batteries, but

they were not what they purported to be

790

:

and had none of these systems in it.

791

:

So the thing starts smoking

and and kind of blows up

792

:

and it melts part of the frame

and all that kind of stuff.

793

:

And being in the world where we are right

now, where there's no more RadioShack

794

:

or equivalent to be able to go get parts,

it means you have to order everything in

795

:

and then the other part of it

796

:

that was kind of interesting is

I had a very hard time

797

:

finding if the batteries

I was going to replace them were for real.

798

:

So I decided, okay, I want to get a name

brand like Samsung or something.

799

:

You know, that we know produces batteries.

800

:

And you know,

Samsung has had a pretty good record.

801

:

They've just blown up

planes, washing machines and other stuff.

802

:

But outside of that

it's good battery, right?

803

:

But in all

seriousness, you get something like that

804

:

and I pick on them a little bit

805

:

because you know these things,

but it is a quality product.

806

:

And a company like that's going to sell

something that purports to be what it is.

807

:

Couldn't find them on Amazon at all.

808

:

In fact, I had to do some digging

and find a third party retailer.

809

:

Couldn't get them locally

because I would do that first anyway.

810

:

You know, nothing available

for the special batteries that I need.

811

:

And these aren't

just like a flashlight battery.

812

:

You need them so that they have

the ability to run all the motors.

813

:

That kind of a thing.

814

:

So high draw lithium, you know, of a

certain rating and all that kind of stuff.

815

:

So I finally did find them a week

and a half to get the new batteries in,

816

:

but also the parts to rebuild the frame,

the battery container itself,

817

:

and it melted. Okay.

818

:

So finally

819

:

all of this comes in

and I put it all together.

820

:

You have to power it up

for the first time,

821

:

and the control board burns out

822

:

Raspberry Pi, which is what's running it

again, smoking and all that kind of stuff.

823

:

And needless to say,

the stress is building

824

:

and building is really fine,

you know? Yeah.

825

:

Oh, it's like,

okay, you know what's going on now.

826

:

So, idea that came from

just putting my head together

827

:

with some other engineers,

is that probably when the battery blew up

828

:

and burned out something in the pie

and you didn't notice it?

829

:

Because when we did the soft power test,

it worked.

830

:

But as soon as I put it under load,

it started having problems, you know?

831

:

And that is the difference.

832

:

Sometimes components will test

good on the meter,

833

:

but still be bad

when you actually run power through them.

834

:

So that is a thing.

835

:

So it's like okay,

what are new Raspberry Pi now?

836

:

Fortunately those aren't

that terribly hard to come by.

837

:

It was like three days.

And I got that in here.

838

:

And I'm sitting there and I'm thinking,

okay, I'm

839

:

I'm putting fuzes on the battery packs

like actual fuzes in addition.

840

:

So that's it.

841

:

Got a backup safety thing.

842

:

So if that happens blow the fuze.

843

:

And also went in

and put some diodes and stuff

844

:

in to make sure it doesn't back bead.

845

:

You know just general stuff. Now again,

these were prototypes.

846

:

This stuff was done

in the final version of the prototype,

847

:

but it never made it into my prototypes

848

:

just because we didn't

get that far with this stuff.

849

:

So I'm testing the meter out and find,

you know, the grounds common.

850

:

But on the positive voltage rails,

there's a dead short coming from the

851

:

solenoid voltage into the power line

that goes into the Raspberry Pi.

852

:

Okay, what's causing this?

853

:

Look at the board.

854

:

And here there was something they call

carbon tracking.

855

:

And what had happened,

I think when the battery shorted out,

856

:

it caused the board to heat up.

857

:

So two of the traces on the board

had melted together basically.

858

:

And they were the power leads.

859

:

So if I put the new Raspberry Pi on it,

it would have gone boom.

860

:

Two, you know, and it was just kind of

by chance I even caught this.

861

:

So the next thing is

I can't get the PCB replaced in time.

862

:

So I'm cutting traces and bodge

and stuff together and then making sure,

863

:

you know, everything's working correctly

and all that kind of stuff.

864

:

And finally,

865

:

just this last weekend, got the thing

to boot up again and get the test small.

866

:

Now I still have ahead of me

all of the programing,

867

:

you know, and the different things

868

:

that need to go along with that

to actually make it work.

869

:

Getting the calibration done,

870

:

which is all the stuff that I should have

been doing three weeks ago, you know.

871

:

But I've decided I'm

not going to let this thing defeat me.

872

:

And so we're going to we're going to get

get there if at all possible.

873

:

And then I thought,

you know, it'd be kind of cool,

874

:

especially since this is a demonstration

for high school students

875

:

to have something like a PlayStation

controller to run the robot.

876

:

Right.

877

:

And we all can't find my PS4 hardware.

878

:

It's gone away.

879

:

It's probably in some storage somewhere.

880

:

So I'm going to go get another controller

look to get a either a PS5, controller.

881

:

That's all that's out right now

or an Xbox One.

882

:

Well, those are so complicated

now that they don't really work too

883

:

well out of the box for an application

like this.

884

:

I ended up using my Atari 7800

plus controller.

885

:

Very, very simple joystick.

886

:

It's got the directional pad

and two buttons and it worked.

887

:

But this is like the night before the demo

that I'm just getting the stuff

888

:

up and running, you know?

889

:

So yeah.

890

:

And this

all started because of a cruddy battery.

891

:

It all started because of a fake battery.

And yeah.

892

:

And, you know, we're

893

:

I brought you the solar lights

that were busted.

894

:

And wasn't that a situation

where there was ready batteries

895

:

once again, you know, and the end of it

is, is the quality control.

896

:

But I think more so than that,

these things are intentional.

897

:

Like with that, your, corrosion.

898

:

The circuit was corroded with the battery.

899

:

And, you know, when we looked inside it

and it's because the metal in the battery

900

:

and the type of metal in the wiring

are too, that don't get along.

901

:

That's why would they do that.

902

:

That's usually usually

903

:

you put the battery in a battery holder

and it doesn't do that.

904

:

But to save $0.02 they soldered the wires

directly to the posts on the battery.

905

:

And this is not a battery

that's designed to be installed that way.

906

:

It's, you know, positive negative

like a double A battery, you know,

907

:

a rechargeable version of it,

but they actually physically soldered.

908

:

So the solder is one kind of metal.

909

:

The battery is made out of a different

kind of metal, and the wiring is a third.

910

:

And it causes a reaction

that will cause corrosion like that.

911

:

So, what are we doing to repair them?

912

:

Well, we're battery holders

913

:

and we're replacing the batteries,

you know, that kind of a thing.

914

:

But one of the worries that I have about

this is there's a lot of Stem projects

915

:

out there where you can go on a site

like Amazon or whatever.

916

:

Barnes and Noble

917

:

sell some of this stuff in other places,

and you get to build a robot

918

:

and I'm looking at this,

and the fake batteries

919

:

look like they're the ones

that are included with some of the kits.

920

:

Yeah.

921

:

So it's like you get a situation either.

922

:

Can you imagine being a student?

923

:

This is your first time you're going

to try to build your own robot

924

:

and it doesn't work right

925

:

either because it catches fire

or there's some other thing going on

926

:

that's got a fake component,

so it doesn't do what it's supposed to do,

927

:

and the kids are not going to know it.

928

:

It's like, yeah,

it's going to be extremely frustrating

929

:

or even potentially very dangerous

and demoralizing,

930

:

and it might make them give up on

doing the whole thing in general.

931

:

So one of the things I've been thinking

about doing with this is,

932

:

and again,

Stem is something that I very much support

933

:

and I think it's very important

to have this out here in a way

934

:

that it's accessible is on these robots

and some of the other ones

935

:

I'm finding as well

post, page the user friendly website here

936

:

in the next couple of months

talking about some of the details on it.

937

:

I think what I'm going to do is order

the kits, just all of them,

938

:

you know,

or at least a cross section of them,

939

:

put them together and video

that when I put the videos up

940

:

and just go over what we run into and,

941

:

go through a process that we'll set up

to be able to test and see.

942

:

Number one of the components are real.

943

:

And the other thing that I've been hearing

rumors about,

944

:

I haven't experienced this yet myself,

but I'm probably will,

945

:

is that apparently some of the foreign

made boards and that type of thing

946

:

say that they have components

which don't actually exist.

947

:

And these would be things

like directional diodes,

948

:

prevent back feeding

and that kind of thing.

949

:

So the unit will work

if everything's fine,

950

:

but if something goes wrong

it doesn't have that safety things.

951

:

There should be fuzes,

you know, and some other stuff there.

952

:

Just very basic circuit protection things.

953

:

That number one, you don't blow up

what usually is a $200 or more product

954

:

to begin with if something goes wrong.

955

:

And number two, so you don't do something

like burn your house down. Lithium

956

:

fires are very difficult to put out,

and I almost had that situation here.

957

:

You know, but,

you did drop some stuff out.

958

:

And I guess I do have

the very unique thing that I can actually

959

:

tell everybody that my robot spider

had an accident on my carpet.

960

:

Quite literally.

961

:

Yeah. It did.

962

:

Didn't you have one of the eyes in your

in your office space?

963

:

Go, quick, call the emergency people.

964

:

Another part of it, too.

965

:

So, you know that work with AI

and I work with

966

:

I do check everything and use it

as a tool, not a replacement for me.

967

:

Although I think sometimes you wonder

if it could do that, but,

968

:

that kind of a thing.

969

:

I have a camera on, and you could actually

do that and feed the camera into an AI,

970

:

and it's monitoring what you're doing.

971

:

And I was actually doing this

for calibrating the legs,

972

:

because it's able to tell better

than I can from an overhead shot

973

:

what's right and what's not.

And then I did this and yeah.

974

:

Oh yeah. Freaked out.

975

:

Oh yeah. Oh that call 911.

976

:

You know evacuate the house.

Get off the planet.

977

:

You know,

it's like okay. Everything's good.

978

:

Oh yeah.

979

:

It it hadn't gone far enough

that it was an actual fire.

980

:

So I was able to deal with it

981

:

by getting it up off the carpet

onto a solid surface.

982

:

And then I had to go calm down my eye,

which is a little bit of a wrinkle.

983

:

I don't think we would

have had a few years ago.

984

:

And,

but, you know, at the end of the day,

985

:

and this is one of the things

about generative AI is

986

:

I think a lot of people would work and use

AI for building these projects.

987

:

It makes total sense to do it.

988

:

And there are some things there

that the AI can do, like the calibrations

989

:

and stuff.

990

:

Well, part of the learning process

for an AI

991

:

is now the

AI would know that this happened

992

:

and when it sees a picture

going forward of these and this is not

993

:

bad or is fake, it would actually be able

to point that out.

994

:

So there are some benefits,

you know, to doing things that way.

995

:

And we talk a lot about the,

996

:

you know, the kind of the downside

of all this stuff and that,

997

:

you know, it's stealing jobs of artists

and other things.

998

:

And it is doing that.

999

:

And it's something that we've discussed

the ethics and stuff in the past,

:

00:48:19,029 --> 00:48:23,667

but used properly as a tool,

it is absolutely amazing.

:

00:48:24,101 --> 00:48:27,137

But you have to still be involved

and you have to be

:

00:48:27,137 --> 00:48:30,140

the person that's actually

doing what you wanted to do.

:

00:48:30,173 --> 00:48:33,443

Not here, write a book for me or here,

write the software.

:

00:48:33,677 --> 00:48:37,381

But something like analyze this function

and see if there's any problems with,

:

00:48:37,648 --> 00:48:39,449

you know, security or something like that.

:

00:48:39,449 --> 00:48:42,452

You know, whatever the case may be,

or grammar check or whatever,

:

00:48:42,552 --> 00:48:45,555

those are two very different applications.

:

00:48:45,622 --> 00:48:48,625

And in some ways it's like the idea of

I have my skills.

:

00:48:48,625 --> 00:48:51,995

So would you want an autonomous table saw

just cutting your stuff out for you?

:

00:48:52,062 --> 00:48:53,430

Are you going to control it?

:

00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:57,301

Even if it's smart

and can fix the same idea anyway?

:

00:48:57,301 --> 00:48:58,135

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00:48:58,135 --> 00:49:01,772

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