The Fundamentals of Influence: Building a Dream Life with Corey Poirier



In this inspiring episode of Beyond The Pills, we welcome Corey Poirier, a multiple-time TEDx speaker, bestselling author, Forbes and Entrepreneur columnist, and founder of both The Speaking Program and bLU Talks. With over 6,500 interviews with the world’s top leaders under his belt and appearances on major networks like CBS, NBC, and ABC, Corey brings a wealth of wisdom on influence, leadership, and living life on your own terms.

We explore the fundamentals of building a dream life—what it really takes, why it's often simpler than we think, and how influence can be a powerful catalyst for personal and professional transformation.

Whether you're an aspiring speaker, a heart-led entrepreneur, or someone craving more purpose and impact, this conversation is your blueprint for bold, authentic living.

🔥 Inside this episode:

• Corey's journey from humble beginnings to global stages
• How to master the fundamentals of influence
• What 6,500+ interviews taught him about success and fulfillment
• The surprising truths about building a dream life
• Behind-the-scenes of TEDx, bLU Talks, and elite speaking programs

📲 Connect with Corey Poirier:

LinkedIn: Corey Poirier

Website: bLU Talks

💡 You were made for more—and it’s easier than you think when you know the path.

Welcome, welcome to this new episode.

Hello, hello, everybody.

My name is Josh Remini,

pharmacist turned healer.

And today's guest is someone

who's not only mastered the

art of influence, but has shared stages,

stories,

strategies that have impacted

lives all over the globe.

Corey Poirier is a multiple-time TEDx,

Mo Mondays, and PMX speaker,

host of the top-rated Let's

Do Influencing radio show,

and founder of both The

Speaking Program and Blue Talks.

I can't wait.

The best-selling author at Barnes & Noble,

Amazon, Apple Books, and Kobo,

Corey is also a columnist

for The Entrepreneur and Forbes.

and a featured voice on networks like CBS,

CTV, NBC and ABC.

He's interviewed over sixty

five hundred people around the world.

Top leaders spoken at

Harvard and has even been

featured twice in the world

renowned Entrepreneur on Fire podcast.

I love talking entrepreneurship.

So today he joins us on this

episode of Beyond the Pills

to share the transformative

fundamentals behind

building a life of your dreams

and why it may be easier than you think.

Welcome, welcome to the show, Corey.

Well, thank you so much, Josh.

I am super stoked, really, to be here.

It's amazing.

I love how organically...

the podcast guests are

flowing to me right now.

Like there's just this

natural vibe that's

happening when we're

talking about these

interconnected things about

empowerment and, and, and,

and transformation and

healing and this is a

beyond the pills podcast we

speak everything ancient

wisdom modern science for

true healing and let's just

get started like let's talk

about you what's your

origin story like you've

built this incredible body

of work I love reading

these bios it's like oh man

let's dive in on that uh

but you know tell us a

little bit about who you

are what you're doing and

and we'll go from there

Well, thank you so much, Josh,

for the invite,

for sharing that gracious bio.

I so appreciate it.

In terms of who I am,

You know,

it's interesting because these

days we place a lot of the

focus on just like my bio, right?

He's done this, he's done that.

What you do, yeah.

Yeah,

what you do versus who you really are

at the core.

And I feel like who I am at

my core in two ways,

like both sides to what drives everything,

I think.

On one hand, I mean,

it probably seems a little

hokey in some ways, but being a Gemini,

I feel like...

And I don't know if this is

the case for all Geminis.

That's why I say this.

So it could be just a coincidence.

But I have both sides to me.

So I have a very artistic side,

creative side,

and I have a very business side.

And so I think that in some

ways makes me – and this is

why I think maybe it's not all Geminis.

It makes me a bit different.

And when I say that, for instance,

when I started as a speaker –

Where I went,

where most people didn't go

at the time was I mixed both worlds.

So I would, for example,

my talk about customer

service was called getting

standing ovations from every customer.

And it was a Mary of how do

the Rolling Stones sell

tickets for five hundred

bucks and sell out?

And then how does a big box

store sell more than their

competitor by a landslide?

And what are the actual

things they're doing?

What are the four steps that

we can replicate or learn from that?

But what it was really doing

is marrying the business

and artistic world.

So that's one side of what informs a lot.

On one hand, I could be... And these days,

I've kind of put the

artistic side to the side a little bit.

But on one hand, in the past,

I could be writing a book

or writing a song or

playing guitar or playing

music or what have you.

And then an hour later, I could be...

writing a business bio or an

article for a magazine or

doing a video around business.

And so I think that made me different.

And then the shorter other

side to it is grew up in a small town,

raised by a single mother,

barely graduated high school.

I got a forty nine plus one

in a class I needed a fifty in, which,

by the way,

I know deep down means the

teacher gave me the plus

one and I probably didn't get forty nine.

I got like forty seven.

He bumped it to forty nine

and gave me the plus one.

So I'd always remember I

didn't really graduate legally.

Legally, I did.

But ethically, I didn't, I guess.

And then on top of that,

when I did graduate high school,

I didn't know the

difference between fiction

and nonfiction.

Didn't read my first book

till age twenty seven.

And my single mother,

I really believe because I

was raised by only my mother,

I took on a lot of those traits that like,

for example,

multitasking that they say

men are terrible at.

I may be.

took it on and still do and

even though I know it's not

the right way to do it I

know that focus is the

answer there's many times

when I find myself

multitasking and people

like how can you juggle

those two things and jump

between them and I think

it's because of having the

influence of my mother who

was also a multitasker and

so those I say those

because I think josh that's

who I am uh and I'm also uh uh

a father of two,

a seven and a four year old,

a common law wife.

And I grew up in that small town,

left for a long time and

came back and now live in

the small town again.

So that's, I think,

who I am versus what I do.

I love that.

I think it's important

because we're humans.

We're not like people that

have professions, right?

It's like, oh.

And speaking that as an

entrepreneur is really fun because

know I I tell I love the and

right the and I can do this

and this at the same time

I've been working through

that my whole life and you

know I think it's it's

interesting because you get

in the in the the room with

entrepreneurs and the first

thing they want to know is

like what do you do what's

your business and how much

are you making right it's

like all those things don't

resonate with me it's like

oh no who are you as a

person which is is so much

more defining of like how

how you show up in the world

and what you do, right?

Like what you do for people.

So I love that.

Cause I, I've been, I've been in the,

and I just, for me, it's funny.

It's like the same thing.

It's like you,

you're artistic and you have

all these things.

And then also you're very

business oriented entrepreneurs.

Like for me, it's like, I tell people now,

I was like,

I speak science and woo at the

same time I can do both.

And so there's not one or the other,

which is beautiful in this

world because I,

we're moving towards this

like non-dualistic kind of

way like how everything is

working in that way so I

love how people's people

have evolved and have

become in that space and so

that's pretty cool um

yeah it's just like you so

you've interviewed

thousands of leaders like

where did you come up with

this stuff right like

you're I I didn't read a

book until I was twenty

seven to being a

best-selling author right

and and being a an

influencer and all these

I've I've been speaking on

stage mostly for

pharmacists and wellness for a long time

So I really do follow

speakers and I follow the

process of speaking.

But when I'm hearing things

like Mo Mondays, TEDx, you know,

these big speaking gigs on TV,

like where did where did

that come from your voice?

I mean, it's a really good question.

And I think it's in some

ways fascinating to explore

because to your point, you know,

I lived a certain amount of

my life not in this path.

And, you know,

so much so that I battled

hypochondria and

generalized anxiety for

about four years in my early twenties.

And the irony of that, Josh,

is I was at the same time a

few years into a corporate

career that I was having

tons of success with.

So it's also funny sometimes

how one part of our life

can be in shambles.

And nobody knows that nobody

was the people I was

working with weren't

dropping by the walk in

center to see that I was

there every second day

because I thought I had something new.

They were just seeing this

guy super successful at work.

And I mean,

it's much the same as we can

see a CEO that seems to

have all the success in the world,

but the kids don't know his middle name,

that type of thing.

So there's that side to it,

meaning that probably

explains why I wasn't into

the personal development

world and all that stuff earlier on,

because if I would have been,

maybe that would have

helped me counter what was going on.

But ultimately, I was in sales.

So I was in the corporate world.

I was in communication.

I was starting down the path.

where I ended up but I

certainly you know I could

have easily stayed in sales

the rest of my career and

never went down this path

so I think this goes back

to the point about my uh

creative side so what what

actually started changing

things is I started record

like I had played music uh

wrote music since I was

twelve and started playing

at clubs when I was really young

And then just stopped.

Like, it was like,

I was terrified of the stage.

I didn't want to be, uh,

playing in front of people.

Like it was,

it just stopped completely

pulled in my tracks,

went down the corporate path.

And then I was living in

this larger city than when

I grew up in quite a bit larger,

like grew up in a town with.

At the time,

three thousand people barely

they barely called it a city,

but it really wasn't.

And I moved to a place with

seven hundred thousand people.

So it was like overnight culture shock.

And now I'm going around

selling photocopiers door to door,

driving in my car to walk

into people that don't even

want to see me.

And it was just a big culture shock,

which probably why,

even though it's having success,

why I was having the

anxiety and everything else

is because I was pushing so

much on myself at once.

But what happened is I met

this dude that was at my

office who wanted to, he had a studio,

like a home type studio.

And he wanted to start

recording music and

figuring out how to do that.

And I was like, oh,

I'd like to start recording.

finishing writing songs,

writing the rest of my songs,

playing some music,

all that kind of stuff.

And so I started over again

and I recorded a couple of CDs with him.

I went out and started

playing music locally.

And that I think is kind of,

it sounds strange,

but what sort of started me

down this path that I'm in now.

So then what happened is I did the music,

again, terrified being on stage.

And then I moved across the country again,

back closer to where I grew up.

And I wrote the stage play

that I put in a local fringe festival.

And halfway through the play,

one of the actors,

the lead actor actually, sprained his,

more than sprained,

broke his ankle basically.

And he kept doing the play

for the rest of the four-day run.

It was a seven-day total run.

And I had to write new lines

because now he needed more

time for costume changes.

So what happened was I

realized I was the only person,

other than the actors that

were already busy, that knew the lines.

So I had to write myself

into the play that I didn't

want to be in.

Like I was supposed to be

the writer and director.

And I didn't want to be on the stage.

Never wanted to be on the stage ever.

I wanted to be a

screenwriter or a stage play writer,

songwriter.

But what happened was I

wrote the play so that I,

this sounds crazy,

but I could have my back to

the audience wearing a big wig.

And I had like,

I think a Triple H wrestling t-shirt on.

Like I just didn't want to be seen at all.

And the funny part is the

actors were the only ones

that could see my face

because I was facing them.

So he was a busker.

playing music.

And I was like a person that

was like going up saying Claymore,

Bob Seger and throwing pennies at him.

Like that was my character, one of them.

And so I was sitting there

covered in sweat and they could see me.

So it was like the actors,

it was like for them,

it was throwing them off

because I was covered in sweat,

but nobody could even see my face.

Like, why was I covered in sweat?

Nobody could even see me.

They could barely hear me.

But at the end of the run,

I said to one of the actors,

do you know how I get over this?

Because this could happen again.

And he goes, dude,

I don't know if this is

what you're looking for.

But he said,

I signed up for the local

local stand up comedy

workshop at the university.

Did you want to come with me for that?

It's like two weeks.

And I said, oh, my God,

that sounds horrible.

But I said, you know,

I could maybe learn about

writing and stuff while I'm there.

So sure, I'll give it a go.

Went to the two-week workshop.

And then after the two weeks,

the guy running it said, hey,

we should do a local show

and then study the comics

and talk about what they

did right and wrong.

And so we were like, sounds great.

So we promoted it, filled the club.

About five minutes to show time, we said,

where are these comics at?

And he looked at us and said,

you're looking at them.

Oh, I didn't tell you.

You guys are the comics tonight.

So we found out with five

minutes notice we were

going to be performing stand-up comedy.

There were fifteen of us.

Eight walked out the front door.

I've never seen any of them

again in my life.

I was one of the seven

foolish that stayed.

I told this story that, which is true,

I went inside the bathroom sweating going,

where's the exit window?

Can I crawl out the window?

Because it was like the main floor level.

There was no window.

It was like barred shut.

I'm like oh my god I'm stuck

here so I was like maybe I

can walk at the front door

and I went and I leaned on

the stage like just like I

I sorry leaned at the bar

and I was almost like like

almost about to pass out

god I didn't know what I

was gonna do and then I had

this vision of uh me

sitting at the bar with an

older guy both of us next

to each other and some

young person performing

stand up on stage and me

going I was gonna do that

one day would it not have

been cool if I had that in

my life vision like if I

could say that that was

part of my life my legacy

And that was what did it.

I said, I don't I think I'm terrified,

but I think not doing it,

the regret of that is going

to be worse than going and doing it.

So the comics all started

debating who's going up first.

And it's like ten minutes

after showtime now and nobody's going up.

So I walked up and grabbed

the mic because I had been

to one Toastmasters meeting

and I learned if you're going to do it,

face it head on, go first.

But I didn't have any material.

I didn't know what it was.

I just jumped up,

started telling what I

thought was funny to dead

silence and no laughs, silence,

which is worse than heckling.

Told a second joke, this time, again,

dead silence.

But I jokingly say now I

think I saw a tumbleweed

going by the back.

That's how bad it was.

Until the guy called me over

the corner stage,

gave me a schmuck in the head and said,

you idiot.

What are you doing out there?

We haven't even turned the

mic on yet to start the show.

so I was out there like

telling my jokes nobody

could even hear them we

turned the mic back on I

told the jokes and guess

what josh they bombed again

so I think I'm the only

comic to bomb twice with

the same material in ten

minutes having said all of

that story that's what

started it all because then

somebody brought me to tony

robbins events and can you

believe he's getting paid

to do this I said oh my god

people get paid

They don't have to go in

front of hecklers and pay

for their own gas to get

there and what have you.

And I said,

I want to know more about that.

And that we can go deeper in that.

But that's what started the

journey of me getting into

the speaking world.

And then the rest is history.

But we can talk about the

history if we need to.

I love that.

No, it's I love the synchronicities,

right?

Like.

you got it's,

this is how I feel like a lot

of people's callings happen, right?

When they just literally are like,

they have no time to think

and they're just shoved into it.

Like the universe just says, here you go.

You're, you're on stage.

You're,

You got no time to think

about it and you just have to do it.

Cause I think we,

obviously you talk about this,

but like we, we,

we get in our heads and all

of a sudden it's like this whole thing.

And then I love what you

said is like not doing it

would be worse than trying

and getting through it.

Because I think a lot of what happens,

what happens whether we call

it transformation growth

healing uh well and like

moving lifestyle changes it

doesn't matter when we're

changing or we're doing

something that doesn't feel

comfy inside right

like we just get pushed into

it and we get it done.

And then it wasn't,

it's never as bad as we

think it would be.

Right.

It's like, Oh, I bombed,

but I'm still here.

I'm still like alive.

I'm breathing.

It didn't really, I even bombed twice,

but guess what?

You're you move through it.

Right.

We always put all that

emphasis on the moment.

So I love that.

Like you kind of got nudged

into it without even knowing.

And that's,

that's just how I love having

these conversations with people because,

it's the, the,

the formula is generally the same.

It's like some random event

happened in their life that

sparked the thing that got

them to bestselling books and TEDx talks.

Right.

Which is awesome.

It's like, so cool.

Then you go like, Oh, and then, you know,

and then Tony Robbins comes and then I,

Oh, I could do this.

And then all of a sudden it's this and dah,

dah, dah, dah.

So thank you for, for the backstory.

It's really cool.

Um,

So you talk a lot about

building the life of your dreams,

transforming.

Where are we right now?

A lot of people,

we're in this

transformative space in life

and careers and jobs and

the world is all changing.

going nuts.

And so people are moving in

these directions of trying

to figure themselves out.

And you've interviewed

thousands of leaders and entrepreneurs,

which I love talking.

And, you know, what, what's,

what's kind of the vibe for

like this day and age,

this kind of message,

because I want to talk about blue talks.

And I want to talk about the

things you're doing in your

book and everything.

But like,

I just kind of want to give your

sense of like,

where things are right now and, and,

and how it's looking

because there's a lot of

people that are just like,

they're over anxious and

they're just really in this space of like,

what in the heck is going on here?

Yeah.

I mean, there's honestly, Josh,

there's so much to impact

there because of the fact that

I mean,

I hate saying because I don't want

to be doom and gloom, but I mean,

we're more divided than

we've ever been before.

I put a post up recently on

social media and I thought

about putting another one up today.

I don't know if I will,

but I put one up recently

on Facebook and basically I just said,

regardless of your political beliefs,

your beliefs, et cetera, et cetera,

I just want you to know that I love you.

And the reason I put this out because,

and I'm bringing this up for a reason,

so many people right now

say it's terrifying out there.

It's the worst it's ever been.

I always find that comment

fascinating because I love

this quote that says, in times like these,

it's always important to

remember there's always

been times like these.

know so like you say it's

the worst it's ever been

I'm pretty sure the civil

war was pretty bad you know

like I'm pretty sure there

were times that were as bad

um and people you know say

this is the worst I've been

it's the worst it's ever

been in our lifetime is

what they're really saying

but having said that um you

know we see I see so much

political divide on social

media and I'm not by the

way I'm not getting

political when I say this

I'm just sharing my

thoughts around what you

asked is that there's so

much political divide in

terms of I hate this

person because they have

this belief and what have

you but what I find wild

right now is people are

saying I'm overwhelmed

there's so much tension and

negative energy and then

I'll watch the same people

say that post on here

saying this and again I'm

using political party could

be anything but these

people with these beliefs

are evil and then they

start all they're evil why

they're evil and stuff well

you just said that you're

over stress but now you're

actually engaging not just

not just getting hit by it

you're engaging and

creating more of what you

say is stressing you out

That's what fascinates me.

Or people that have a

certain belief and say, respect my belief,

but then say, that's terrible.

How could you think that way?

And don't see that, you know,

it could be four members of

your family that you were

raised with and you now

have a different belief

than them or vice versa.

And you've always loved them and still do.

But yet you're saying that

people that believe the

same thing that they are are all evil.

a hundred percent all evil

but what you know from

firsthand experience

they're not because you

know regular people like

you have the same beliefs

they do and so what I'm

getting at is I that that's

to call a spade a spade or

pick the elephant in the

room but what I think

the takeaway I want people

to have from that is you

need to disengage from that.

So in other words,

one of the things I talk about in,

I told you about the book

that we put out.

One of the things I talk

about is it's a fictional book,

but it's loosely based on

my life is when my mother

had a cervical cancer,

which she had for a number of years.

And she, um,

Went to the doctor and the

first appointment she had with him,

he wrote on a prescription pad,

like an actual prescription note.

The prescription he wrote

was don't watch and read

the news anymore.

And so what that started is

my mother went on a news detox.

I joined her on it.

I've been on a news detox ever since.

That's probably now, Josh, or almost.

And what I'm getting at is

people always ask me,

how are you so positive in

such a tough time or when

so much is going on in the world?

It's because I've taken the steps

to deflect from that,

to give myself the Teflon,

to build up what I need to

be able to deal with that

stuff without it bringing me down.

And so a real example,

real tangible example is I do what I call,

I mean,

I just put a little name on it for

fun to be hokey,

but I put a name on it called posits,

but I put positive deposits in daily.

So daily I'm interviewing,

having great conversations like this,

interviewing people to

learn their way of thinking,

reading powerful books, what have you.

I deposit daily so that now

if you look at it,

if I had a bank account

that you could physically see it,

I've made all these deposits.

And so now when somebody

wants to pull me into a

negative conversation or I

happen to see the news for

whatever reason,

because I'm still on social

media or whatever that looks like,

now it's only one

withdrawal and I have all these deposits.

So I have so much built up in the bank

that one withdrawal isn't

gonna make a difference.

And so what I'm getting at is I hear,

and this is not to take

away from the fact that

there's a lot going on.

A lot of people are being

dehumanized and all these

other things are happening.

I'm not trying to pretend we

turned a blind eye or it's not happening.

But what I'm saying is at the same time,

It's like who you hang

around with is a lot of

ways who you become.

So in other words,

if you continue to engage in that,

that's what you're going to get more of.

And so for me,

my feeling was that I want

to be the change.

I want to be the person

that's not engaging in that.

And part of that is I need

to daily put more positive

in than negative.

and so the takeaway from

that is I went into news

detox and I literally

started thinking about how

much negative is in my life

daily and how much positive

and this came from the fact

that my anxiety started

coming back after it

eventually I eventually

gotten rid of it in a lot

of ways and it just I could

start to feel a little bit

of a coming back so I did

this list of who I was

spending my time with

because I had always heard

that you have five years

time will be a reflection

of the books you meet and

the people sorry the books

you read and the people that you meet

And I knew I had the books

covered at that point.

I was putting the right stuff in.

But I thought maybe it's the people.

And I did this little overview.

And I realized that, like,

sixteen of the people that

I've seen regularly were negative.

Gossipers, negative, what have you.

Only,

I think it was two or three were

positive.

So I had to make changes.

And so those changes continue today.

But that's how I stay

positive is I make sure I'm

putting more positive in

the tank than negative.

And not to – you'll maybe

like this because of what

you talk about often.

But not to –

deviate a little bit but

that anxiety and

hypochondria I mentioned

people often ask me like

how did you get rid of it

and pretty much I don't

want to say cure I don't

like the word cure but I

I'll just say it hasn't

come back other than that

one time I could feel it

and I made changes and you

know what the only thing I

did that was different is

it went back to that night

at stand-up comedy so this

is a full circle moment is that um

When I did the standup,

I went back to work the next day.

I bombed horribly on the stage,

but I went back to work the

next day and people said, oh my gosh,

you seem different.

Like you seem to have a glow about you.

Did you meet a girl last

night or something?

And I said, no, I did stand up comedy.

They're like, well,

you need to do more of that.

And I went back every week.

I ended up doing a seven

hundred shows over nine years.

And but going back and but

it was the taste of it was

like I ultimately found out

speaking was more of the

passion and comedy.

But here's the thing.

Just that little bit of

passion coming into my life

because I had no purpose at that point.

No passion.

It changed everything.

Like within weeks,

I forgot I had had hypochondria.

I forgot I had anxiety.

and so what I call it now

josh is vitamin p so I say

I took vitamin p which is

passion or purpose and I

say it's the only vitamin

you can't buy in the store

but it's maybe the most

important one you'll ever

take and so I take vitamin

p that's how I deal with it

so when you say what does

it look like out there in

the world part of it is

figuring out what your

purpose is and living on

purpose because when you're

grossing your purpose you

have a much harder time

being pulled down by the

negative stuff happening

and then secondly taking an

active effort to put in positive

more than you get negative in.

And then the last piece I

would say is to be willing

to do a news detox or some

way to actively say,

I'm going to have less of

this in my life.

So that would be the overall.

No, I...

a lot of it resonates with me.

I was, I'm glad you got into that.

I haven't watched the news

for since COVID probably.

Like I just don't watch the news.

Like it's just one of those things.

And it's not that news isn't happening.

And of course we can,

I don't get political much, but like,

I think it's really important to,

to detox from the negativity.

Let's call it that.

Right.

And moving because you are,

you're correct.

Like it's the same thing that I've done.

It was like,

you choose to engage in that

belief or philosophy.

It's okay.

And I love to say that, you know,

one of the things I'm here

on the planet for is like you said,

I love your posts.

Like it's okay.

I love you.

Right.

Like part of my philosophy,

one of my biggest things in

my world is can I

unconditionally love everybody?

Like,

that's one of the things I want to do

in my world before I leave.

Like,

but I'm still conditional because I'm

a human, right?

Like, I'm not Buddha yet, right?

But I love the deposits

because it's it's funny

because there's science in that, too.

It's like we know that if

we're filling our love

bucket and we're filling up

our positivity.

And to me,

all that means is am I acting in

and moving towards what's resonant to me?

Right.

If I'm moving towards what's

what's enlightening to me,

what lifts me up, like you said,

vitamin P. I love that.

I may use that is because

I'm a purpose mission driven person.

And so if I'm doing this

podcast and that lights me

up because I love having

these conversations with

awesome people doing good in the world.

And I can talk wellness and

I can talk healing and I

can help people move beyond

prescriptions and move into

the realm of what's possible.

Like that all lights me up.

So I'm filling my bucket with that stuff.

And then, yes, shielding yourself.

from not just negative people,

because I also believe that too,

the books you read,

and the people you hang out

with are who you become.

Because it's that's what happened.

And so I think we've spoken

a lot about that is like,

how do we detox from the things that are

depleting us and how do we

improve upon the activities

that are improving and

vibing us up and so that

balance just becomes

natural like you said yes I

don't use the word cure but

what I would probably put

in there for your anxiety

would be uh-oh we all right

we're back somehow the

universe just like exploded there

We dropped and your computer

screen went nuts.

Who cares?

Like, it's just good.

We're having a good conversation.

Where were we?

For me, like,

Passion, resonance,

spending time with people

that are lifting you up.

I just call them my tribes,

like my dad tribe, my spiritual,

I call them my soul pod, right?

The people that are just like,

they're there to win it with me.

All that matters.

And I think people lose

sight of that because they

get stuck on the scroll of

death and they're listening

and engaging to all that stuff.

I call it depleting now

because I think all

feelings need to be felt

because we're humans.

We can't let them sit.

We can't let them engage

inside of us and hold on to them.

So I'm glad that you brought

all that stuff up and how

and why it's something that

you've been doing.

So thank you for that.

Let's...

And you did talk about your

book a little bit,

but tell people a little

bit about what the book's called.

What's the name of the book again?

Well, for those that can see this,

I can show it's called The

Enlightened Passenger.

And, you know, in a quick,

quick nutshell on it, it's a person,

like I say, it's a fictional parable,

but it's a personal

development fictional parable.

So comparison wise,

and it's only if people

have heard of these books,

there's not a lot of

well-known fictional parables,

but examples would be The Alchemist.

yeah one of my favorite

all-time like parable books

for sure another one is the

celestine prophecy it was

really in the mid-nineties

um anything pretty much by

augmentino so like the

greatest salesman in the

world as an example uh

richest man in babylon's

another one a lot of people have heard of

And so those are examples of parables.

And my other books that I've done,

none of them have been, well,

I'll correct that.

One was a parable, but it wasn't really,

I'll correct that again too.

It wasn't necessarily a

parable in the traditional sense,

but it was,

it goes back to what I talked

about earlier.

It was a book about, actually, it's funny.

I never have it,

but I'm going to show you

guys because I happen to have it nearby.

And it's also similarly very, very small.

This was,

I wrote this book a number of years ago.

I never sold a copy of my life.

So it was never meant to be sold.

But basically,

it's about what I talked about earlier.

How do you get a standing

ovation from every customer, physical,

I mean, figurative or literal?

And it's a book about stand-up comedy.

A guy at a big box store

like a Staples goes to a

stand-up comedy club and

sees this comic at a

standing ovation and says,

I wonder if what he did in

that stage could be applied to business.

And so then he brings the

comic in for lunch and they

go over the four things the

comic realizes he does.

And the guy wants to get a

promotion at the store.

But then he ultimately

learns that he really wants

to learn about how to treat

customers well versus just the promotion.

So I wrote that book, but it was very...

intentional the book the

idea was what if I could

get this message in front

of CEOs who could bring me

in to share their message

with their team so I

actually sent the book away

to give it away for free so

I did write a parable once

before this is the first

parable I've ever brought

to a publisher ever sold

copies of and the idea

behind it was I I won't say it um

don't want to reveal or ruin

anything so I'll just say

uh it was built around a

certain question that I've

been asking and the idea

and so I came up with the

idea and the interesting

part is I knew the ending

first then I knew the

beginning next and then I

knew the middle and so uh

and I just kept sitting

with it and toying with I'm

gonna write this soon and

never did much with it and

then we went on a two-week

vacation with the family

and my wife said you know

you don't swim with us

you're not a swimmer uh

we're gonna go to the beach

a few days why don't you

write the book either on the

beach or in the cabin you

know I know you've been

talking with that book and

you never get you know you

never do it because you're

always too busy so I wrote

half the book in two weeks

and then then it took

another year josh for me to

finish because then I got

busy and I would write four

pages at a time and move

away and come back and so I

wrote the book but what's

interesting is every time I

did sit down to write it was effortless

which I would love to

pretend that's normal.

Also, I do believe,

I remember I was

interviewing James Redfield

who wrote Celestine years ago.

And he said, you know,

you got to write a bad book

before it's a good book.

You edit it into a good book.

And that's been my

experience for most of my books.

That's not been for this.

I literally did this book

and then I wanted to have...

feedback or a focus group.

So I went out to people and said,

who wants to read the book first?

Give me feedback.

And I was looking for like,

what are some things I'm missing?

What needs to be changed?

What's not resonating?

Most of the people said,

you need a lot of work on

the grammar and spelling

because it was not proofed

at all when I sent it out.

But almost everybody said

that this book needs to be

in stores tomorrow.

so I was like whoa this is

the first draft that's not

normal normally it should

be like horrible crap so

the reason I say that is

not a compliment to me is

to say I feel like the book

was channeled it was like a

gift to me it was like

somebody needs to write

this book here you go

here's the concept and so I

put the book out and the

premise um with it is I

said it's like personal

development almost like the

alchemist or what have you

just like those books it

has lessons so the

alchemist and celestine

prophecy has nine um

insights so this book has ten lessons

But what I think makes it

somewhat unique is it's

based on those thousands of

interviews that I've done.

These are the ten things I

always say that I would

teach my kids if you locked

me in a room with them for

twenty four hours and said

you could only teach them

ten things for the rest of your life.

These are the ten things I

would teach them.

So stuff came out if I

didn't feel it was in those ten.

So it's ten life lessons.

It's called the flight that

changes everything,

but it's ten life lessons

that could potentially

change a life or your life forever.

I love that.

I'm definitely going to grab

a copy because these are,

people learn through story too.

They learn through these ways, right?

Knowing that we've learned

through stories and I love

how it's a parable and

Alchemist is one of my

favorite parable books.

So amazing.

How can people get ahold of that book?

Is it on Amazon everywhere?

It is.

I mean, it's- Do you have a website or-

Yeah, I'll give a website,

but it is everywhere.

It's at Walmart, Target, Barnes & Noble,

Amazon, as they always say,

all the books.

Wherever you get books these days,

you can get it.

Cool.

I just want to make sure

because sometimes people are like, no,

you can't do it that way.

Yeah, no, but it absolutely is.

However,

the easiest way to get it is

online for many of those retailers.

And then,

but to answer your question more directly,

we do have a website.

It's thisisthebook.com.

So thisisthebook.com.

What's unique about it is

when you go there, you can actually,

it'll direct you to the

places where you can buy it.

So in other words,

instead of you trying to pick which one,

you can go there and have the links.

You don't even have to search it.

You just go to that website.

I love that website.

Well,

and having said that right now and it

could change tomorrow,

I don't want to make promises,

but by the time you hear it,

it may or may not change.

But right now, if you go do it,

you buy the book, you go to that place,

let's say Amazon,

get your order number and

you come back to the website,

put in the order number and

you get a bunch of free

bonuses immediately.

So, you know,

usually that's only available

when people do the book launch.

We just haven't taken it down yet.

But it's like it's powerful

stuff like exclusive

interviews with Lisa

Nichols and Les Brown that

have never been aired before.

Stuff like that.

Like it's, you know, and then training.

We have training on what I

talked about earlier,

how to build your business.

what I call now your

relationship inventory,

like the list of who you

spend your time with.

I go through that in real

time and how to do that and

so on and so forth.

So yeah,

so there's a bunch of bonuses if

you get- I love that.

And that's the goal for me

in this podcast is when

people are resonant to what you're saying,

like in the episodes and

where they're hearing this is like,

what can they do?

Like, what's the thing to do?

Because we don't want to

just sit and thought,

I'm going to do into action, right?

There's one thing about

saying you're going to,

you know, get rid of your energy,

get rid of your depleting

energetic relationships.

And it's another one to actually do it.

And then,

and then experience what life is

like after that, right?

That's what we're really looking for,

where the experience of

moving through this thing,

like just in transformation,

I say it all the time,

the only way forward is through.

It isn't about sitting here

and talking and listening

to the podcast and then

going on your day.

It's like, oh, there's real things to do.

This is the book.com.

I love that.

Get some vitamin P. I know

we're winding down because

we both have some hard

stops today and we'll

probably get on another one for sure.

I love what's going on,

but I want to talk about

Blue Talks because this is

something that I think is really cool.

And when you described it to me,

I was like,

the first thing I did was like,

I leaned in.

I was like, ooh, this is cool.

So talk to people a little

bit about Blue Talks.

Yeah, so Blue Talks,

as far as first and foremost, the name,

it's BLU and it stands for

Business Life Universe.

And so that's, again, all intentional.

The backstory and the

current story is that

people were asking me saying,

I wish there was like a

spiritual TEDx stage.

And also people were saying,

I wish there was like a

stage where it was focused

more on the experts so that

they could deliver their

message to the viewers and

the listeners and what have you.

And so enough people asked

that eventually I did a survey,

proof of concept basically.

I went in and said,

who would be interested if we did this?

And it was a big response.

So ultimately decided to launch this thing,

which I said to you is like,

I kind of say it's like if Chicken Soup,

TED Talks and Mindvalley

all got married somehow and had a baby,

Blue Talks would be the

baby because it's a mixture between them.

And basically it's a mixture

between the business.

So what we would have say on

our live stages would be

people speaking on business,

people sharing life stories,

people talking to things

like spirituality or

synchronicity or Reiki or

anything like that.

And it's a mesh between them all.

It's like a mashup between business,

almost like what I said earlier, right?

My creative and business world,

this is like a mashup

between business and spirituality.

And what it looks like in real,

and now I'm telling you how

it started and what it's about,

but what it looks like in

the real world is,

We run live events almost every month.

So we have eleven more coming up this year,

for instance.

And we run a live event

where speakers show up just

like a TEDx if you picture

TEDx and they share their message.

Twenty minute talk.

They share their message

with the audience there in person.

But the biggest audience is

always the video later

because we're on so many networks now.

We just got on to Binge Network.

Like we're literally it's it

hasn't gone live.

It's like going live today or tomorrow.

We're on Connect TV at Hollywood.

We're on the Apple Roku TVs,

all those type of things.

And so that's the video.

And then we also put out a book regularly.

That's like an anthology

book or a compilation book

with multiple authors.

We usually have a big name feature author.

Like we've had the late Bob Proctor,

Ken Honda, Dr. Joe Vitale, Marie Diamond,

and so on as the featured authors.

And then we have a podcast

and a virtual stage.

So that's like the four

platforms where we kind of

bring Blue Talks to the world through.

I love it.

I can't wait to dive in

because I think it's, I love,

the entrepreneurial side of health,

wellness, healing.

And it's got this whole, like, I, I,

it's perfect for me.

I like,

I can't wait to dive in on more of this.

I'll probably get a lot of,

hopefully get some, some,

some guests from that on my

show because it's, it's,

it's right in line.

I was like,

I speak woo in science and I

love being an entrepreneur.

So it was like,

I'm already automatically

connected into that space.

So I'm sure we'll talk

offline and I want to figure out,

where are these stages?

Where do people go?

Like, I want to, I want to participate.

Um,

but I think that's a lot of like our

listeners are there in that

spiritual or finding, you know,

the way I look at

spirituality is like when