Welcome aboard Polyester Airlines for another trip back in time to the decade when Avocado Green reigned supreme and THE DEVIL'S DAUGHTER starring Shelley Winters, Jonathan Frid and Abe Vigoda was the ABC Movie of the Week.

Your captain, Patrick Walsh, is waiting to whisk you away to the night of January 9, 1973 for this terrifying tale of Satanic Panic, Sinister Lesbians and Weddings Gone Wrong.

Your copilots on this ill-advised voyage into caftans and cults are KASEY LOMAN from Evil Goods Design and notorious Canadian TARA GARNER.

THE DEVIL'S DAUGHTER is currently available to stream on OK RU.

Kasey's new "Poole Sisters" addition to her FEMMES OF FRIGHT Collection is available to view and purchase on the ScreamQueenz Official Teepublic Store

View her entire collection at Evil Goods Teepublic.

The Devil's Daughter was directed by Jeannot Szwarc, written by Colin Higgins and stars Shelley Winters, Belinda Montgomery, Robert Foxworth, Joseph Cotton, Lucille Benson and Thelma Carpenter

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Patrick

:: 00:00

Hello, everyone.

Before we take off for this journey into nostalgia, I just wanted to let you know that this particular episode, if it came from the 70s, was recorded all the way back in October.

And the reason it has been released previously is because I thought it was lost forever, because that was during the period where my mic was not working. So I was using a cheesy headset mic.

And it turned out the audio that recorded for this episode on my end was so terrible, it was unusable, it was crackly, and it kept dropping out and it was hard to understand. So I said, forget it. It's gone. But then, lo and behold, Riverside, my new remote recording software, added an AI audio fix.

So what you're listening to today is the completely repaired audio, and you would never know the difference. And I'm super impressed.

And the reason I'm telling you is that is because there's some references to stuff that's going on in October, particularly when my guests are promoting upcoming events in their lives. Those events have already happened because they were last October, but they were worth leaving in because they were funny. I've talked enough, so.

So why don't I talk some more? But as your captain, enjoy the show and have a safe flight back to the past. Attention, please.

yester Airlines flight to the: 1970

to the year: 1973

,: 1970

,: 1973

,: 1973

Big bad Leroy Brown was eaten by a Crocodile Rock, and everybody wanted to buy the world a Coke except for you, because you're so vain. In fact, you probably think this announcement's about you.

The weather in: 1973

Ladies and gentleme, Ladies and gentlemen, it is my pleasure to introduce to you your flight crew for this evening. My co pilots tonight are the terrifying graphic artist Kasey Lowman and notorious Canadian Tara Gardner. Passengers, we have reached cruising status.

Devil's Daughter and the year: 1973

Welcome aboard co pilot Kasey.

Tara

:: 03:38

Hello pilot Patrick.

Patrick

:: 03:40

It's so nice. That's Captain Patrick to you. God.

Tara

:: 03:43

Captain Patrick.

Patrick

:: 03:44

Thank. Thank you, thank you. Because if I'm the captain, you two are Tenille or Dawn or I don't know how any of the 70 stuff works. Hi Kasey, welcome back.

Kasey

:: 03:51

Hello. Thanks for having me again.

Patrick

:: 03:53

Well, you know it's a delight to fly with you both again. It's been a while. It's been a while since we went to college. Telekinetic college.

But we got places to go tonight because we are talking about the film the Devil's Daughter. This is the first time for me, this is rare on a flight that I have not planned.

Of course I haven't chosen the movie before we go, but we're flying by the seats of our pants and I don't remember who did it last time. Kasey, you were right first. So you know what Tara? You were late. So you. Please tell me what you will be punished.

Please just tell me what's going on in the Devil's Daughter. What is the basic plot?

Tara

:: 04:28

Diane is called to her mother's funeral after her mother unexpectedly gets shot with a gun she's holding facing away from her. And then Shelley Winters in fabulous clothes and a really anachronistic car come and tries to bring her into this world that her mother was once in.

And then gets really pissed when Diane wants to go and live her life and. And it kind of goes from there of just.

We learn that Satan though having really dedicated and enthusiastic followers needs to get some that learn how to be chill in a situation because that is truly.

Patrick

:: 05:11

The downfall or the success depending how you look at it. Kasey, is anything you want to add to that?

Kasey

:: 05:18

Just that you always know it's a good time when someone goes to settle their family's funeral that they don't know very well.

Patrick

:: 05:26

When that long lost friend friend that hasn't seen you from a baby shows up but is super nice to you. They always have the best intentions for you.

Kasey

:: 05:33

Best intentions ever.

Tara

:: 05:34

And wants you to move in right away.

Patrick

:: 05:36

Exactly. Exactly. There's nothing worried about this at all. I would say. I would say it's a blatant Rosemary's Baby ripoff.

It's shameless, but yet it elevates things. It does take its own right. It takes the core of Rosemary's Baby and spin things around a bit.

Because she's not gonna be pregnant with the devil's baby. She is the devil's baby. And it's just learning. She has to learn who she is. It's her. Stella got her groove back, but it did modding form. She's.

She's living the st. Human life when she could be a queen of hell. And all these people just like, honey, just take the crown, please. Just take the crowd. You want to give me this crap? Like, no, I can't possibly.

It's learning who. It's Diane's journey of self discovery and awareness. It. It's just a joy to watch.

One of the reasons I picked this movie, because I wanted you to back. And we had such a good time last time. Making fun of Shelley Winters in the Initiation to Sarah.

Kasey

:: 06:21

Yes.

Patrick

:: 06:22

So I said, this ought to be a hoot. I had nothing to make fun of Shelly Winters about this movie. She's fantastic.

Tara

:: 06:28

I know.

Kasey

:: 06:30

I wrote that down in my notes because I was like, oops, I should be finding something bad. But I had so much fun with her performance in this movie.

Patrick

:: 06:37

She is connected. She's controlled. She's. She's working with the other actors in a way she wasn't in the Initiation of Sarah.

And I said, this is the Oscar winner right here. This is the two time Oscar winner right here. Now I get it.

usually once you get past the: 1970

Actually, I do know who the director is. I. I don't know if like she had a director that. Who spoke her language or was not. Maybe like she wasn't getting direction on initiatives.

Sharon left her own device. I don't know. But whatever's happening here is great.

Tara

:: 07:14

Oh yeah. When she's not here, it dragged. I found like when we had the long sections where she wasn't around, I was like, I don't really care. Shut up, Diane.

Let's go back to L. Yeah, well, yeah.

Patrick

:: 07:28

By the way, when you're. When that long lost friend of your mother shows up at your funeral. And you know, if you ever.

Hasn't seen you since you're a baby and invites you to move into their house and her name is Lilith. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. This movie is not subtle names. Well, here's the thing, though. I don't.

I don't know how common knowledge, like this devil stuff was not common knowledge at the time. Like maybe to certain, you know, branches of the Christian church who know that part of the Bible that's been erased.

But I had never heard the term Lilith outside of Cheers before, until I was in college. So I did want to say a little behind the scenes stuff here. The director here, I cannot. I don't know how to pronounce it.

Tara

:: 08:08

He has a very interesting name.

Patrick

:: 08:10

Well, it's Janut Swark.

I was explaining to Kasey beforehand because I know Tara knows I've been suffering from trigger finger, which means I can't make a fist, which means I can't hold a pen properly. So my handwriting is absolute garbage and I can't read it. So I'll be fixing this post. Some of you watching on video. Please be patient with me.

I think it's Swork.

Kasey

:: 08:30

Yeah.

Tara

:: 08:31

Jano Swar. That's how I would say it. I'm reading it.

Patrick

:: 08:34

Yeah. What a career. What a career. I mean, he did see, he did a ton of great tv.

He, he was very ubiquitous, like, very prolific, both TV and, and film, major films, like TV movies, did Night of Terror, which is a great movie, which I'll probably cover here. You'll never see me again. Another great one. 19 episodes of Night Gallery, 13 episodes of Kojak.

He only just died this year, so he was working very recently. He was doing, you know, Grey's Anatomy and he was working on Bone. So he, he, he worked quite a lot. But I see Tara is lighting up like a.

Like a Christmas tree. What are some of his major film accomplishments? Tara Garner.

Tara

:: 09:09

For me, one of the major ones that jumped out to me was the episode of Columbo he directed. Lovely but lethal because it had Vincent Price. Oh, and I love Columbo. Like, I have all of the disc and everything.

I'm, I'm a weirdo who loves Columbo and like Murder she wrote and McMillan and wife. So when I saw that, I was like, he did a Columbo and he did like Night gallery episodes and 19 of them.

Patrick

:: 09:37

Yeah, but no, he, he directed Jaws too.

Tara

:: 09:41

Yes, I saw.

Patrick

:: 09:41

Yeah, that. What big shoes to fill, sir. And. Yeah, and also Somewhere in Time, which was a huge hit, like a huge cable hit with.

With Christopher Reeve and Jane seymour. Jane Seymour.

Tara

:: 09:53

Dr. Quinn.

Patrick

:: 09:54

Thank you. Dr. Quinn. Lesbian woman.

Yeah, he did some more in Time and so he had these two really big hits in a row and then he did Supergirl for destroyed his career. But also he did one of the best worst movies of the 70s.

Did one of William Castle's last movie Bug, which is a movie where town gets taken over by cockroaches that. That can spell words with their bodies and also fart fire at their butts. It's an amazing movie. Grown up Patty McCormick from the Bad Seeds in it.

It's great. It's terrible. At the same time he's had quite a career about him. But also I wanted to focus on Colin Higgins the writer.

in: 1988

Little Whorehouse in Texas.

Tara

:: 10:41

Wow, that's a really good little stint there.

Patrick

:: 10:45

I. I wrote and directed them too. I directed them and so direct two gay classics in this which is Gay Heaven. This movie Gay Heaven.

-: 1973

For instance on CBS we had the second ever episode of Mon called Doctor Doctor which she catches her son and the neighbors kid playing doctor in the garage. Naughty, naughty, naughty. At 8 o', clock, 8:30 was Hawaii 5 0. Special guest Patty Duke.

Tara

:: 11:20

Gotta love a Patty Duke.

Patrick

:: 11:22

There was another 9:30 was a made for TV movie called Hunter which I don't have much information about but star John Vernon. Noted Canadian John Vernon from. John Vernon from Animal House, Killer Clowns and he was the director in Curtains, the slasher movie Curtains.

Tara

:: 11:37

Oh him.

Patrick

:: 11:38

NBC had Bonanza, if you like A Western Season 14, Season 14. 14 years that show was on. Good lord. And a whole bunch of stuff I never heard of. The only thing that was. It's really fun. It's really fun.

Is that on ABC there was a show called Temperatures Rising which is a sitcom about sexy nurses. And the fun thing is is that the guy who played the head, the guy who ran the hospital is like oh, you have to stop being so sexy nurses.

This guy named James Whitmore, he eventually got a place replaced by Paul Lynn. But not tonight. You're stuck watching this movie. It's the only good thing on tv. This whole TV schedule sucks. It's Shelly Winters.

You don't turn off Shelly Winters.

Tara

:: 12:14

You say that and I can, I can immediately hear Paul Lynn telling sexy nurses to stop me.

Patrick

:: 12:19

Stop that.

Tara

:: 12:21

It's just immediately in my brain.

Patrick

:: 12:23

That's not where you put the thermometer. So the cast of this movie, like is bananas. Before we get into the plot, like we said, Shelly Winters is in its great.

Shelley Winters, of course, is a legendary actress of both stage and screen. We talked about her once before when you two were both on. She was in the Initiation of Sarah, but she's a two time, two time Oscar winner.

She won best actress for Diary of Anne Frank. A Patch of Blue. She was nominated for Side Adventure and Place in the Sun.

And then she embraced her new hag horror Persona in her later career doing such wonderful trashy movies like what's the Matter With Helen with Debbie Reynolds, Whoever, Slew Auntie Rue, the Visitor Tentacles. As a matter of fact, this movie we're talking about, right, the Devil's Daughter was her follow up to the Poseidon Adventure. So that's pretty wild.

Diane is Belinda Montgomery, who I really didn't know that much about until I looked at her IMDb.

I, I still don't necessarily recognize her, but she has over 100 credits and she just had a completely respectable Hollywood career like doing one offs. She was never the star of anything until much later in her career. She was just doing regular one off but tons of them.

She booked like crazy and good for her. Good for. I liked her because she balanced she the Shelly Crazy, she was grounded.

But some of the things she did do, she was Doogie Howser's mom was her big claim to fame for the whole run. Yeah, I saw that much, much later in her career. And for me she was on the man from Atlantis.

Kasey the man from Atlantis was a terrible show that ran for one season and I no, only the gays remember it because Patrick Duffy was in it and he swam a lot. So he was always in a bikini like he was from Atlanta. So it was always him swimming his little bikini underwear.

And Even at like 7, I was like this is the best show ever. But that's not the point right now. Also I judge.

I've learned on this flight that I judge all the actors in the movies by how many times they're on Fantasy island or Lupo. She was only she did one Fantasy island and two Love Boats. But she did do a murder. She Wrote and a TJ Hooker. So that. That. That. That.

That the care camp value was like Shelly Winters only did. She did two Love Boats and no Fantasy Island. So, you know, you might have Oscars, but you weren't on T.J. hooker. No, no, no.

Tara

:: 14:28

And you can't discount Murder, She Wrote.

Patrick

:: 14:30

No, you cannot. No, you cannot. No. That's one of those things. If you were not on Murder, She.

Tara

:: 14:34

Wrote, what was wrong with you?

Patrick

:: 14:35

Which again, ran for 15,000 years and had 30,000 death stars every single episode. But I like her. So tell me about Diane. You mentioned her mom died. Tell me about the death of her mom.

Tara

:: 14:46

So her mom, it looks like a very like, if you were like, we need a dowdy old grandma. That is Diane's mom who is praying in church.

And then the priest knows her by name, goes home, and there are men in her house, and they can't have her daughter. And what do you want?

Goon

:: 15:11

You know what we want, Alice.

Alice

:: 15:21

You can't have her. I'll never let you touch her. Never.

Tara

:: 15:27

Yeah, so it's. It's clear from the jump that she is hiding them secrets. And we learn as it goes on more secrets like that. No one even knew she was in California.

Her daughter didn't know. Lilith apparently, didn't know. But that's with a grain of salt.

Patrick

:: 15:45

Well, what's the big secret? I mean, we. There's no. What I like. What I like about this movie is that there are no secrets when it comes to what's going on with Diane.

What is this big secret? There's no need to dance around it. What. What did Diane's mother do?

Tara

:: 15:58

She had the baby of the devil.

Kasey

:: 16:03

Yeah.

Patrick

:: 16:04

And then just like Uncle Lewis, she reacted the deal. Once the baby was born, she's like, no, it's my baby. I'm gonna find Jesus now. But the devil's like, she's 21 now. She's legal. She's mine.

Satan

:: 16:16

I have Alice for 21 years. When the time is up.

Alice

:: 16:22

Oh, when she's my little girl. My daughter.

Satan

:: 16:26

She's my daughter, too. Alice, you knew this day would come.

Patrick

:: 16:31

What I love about the Devil crew in this, they feel like the Mafia.

Kasey

:: 16:35

Totally.

Patrick

:: 16:36

They say, like, there's these two henchmen that very rarely speak, and they're impeccably dressed in wonderfully tailored suits, and they just pop up in scenes. And when you know they pop up, somebody's gonna die.

Kasey

:: 16:45

I think I loved the mirror jump scare right at the beginning when the mom was killed. Like, that was a great jump scare. Bald Guy just like in the mirror. And they struck me as Bond villains. Weirdly.

Like they just felt like James Bond villains. And I love that.

Patrick

:: 17:01

I love that jump scare too, because we're five seconds into the movie. You don't get jump scares this early, but we got one. It was well done. Thank you.

Kasey

:: 17:07

I knew I was in for a good ride, like, right then.

Patrick

:: 17:09

I was like, I have good hands. I know you got a point, but I just want to jump in with something. The, the thing that was killing me with this scene.

I was looking at the actress playing Alice, the mom. I'm going, that wig, that poor wig, that poor wig, that silver spray painted within an inch of his life. You are, you are not.

You are a beautiful woman under that. And they're trying to make you daddy. That's Diane Ladd. Diane Ladd is going to go on to be a three time Oscar nominee. That's Laura Dern's mom.

She's got. This woman's gonna be nominated for Rambler Rose Wild at heart. Alice doesn't live her anymore. What a career she's about to have.

She's one of the most beautiful women in Hollywood. They put her in this role. Humble beginnings. Humble beginnings. But, yeah, you mentioned something weird about the way she dies. What?

Oh, but before we get to that, like, these guys come up and like, hey, you got to get the baby back. But then the big boss shows up. Tell me about the big boss showing up. Satan shows up at her apartment.

Kasey

:: 18:02

Well, you have like a kind of a crutch come in the door and you hear like scraping, like a nice sound effect of scraping in. And you, you don't see him at all. But it has.

I don't know how having, like, someone scrape their legs across the floor could be creepy, but it totally was right there with you.

Patrick

:: 18:20

That, that entrance gave me goosebumps. Just because you see nothing. You're just hearing the long before long before you see anything.

You just hear like, it's like the monkey's paw knocking at the door and you don't know what's on the other side. You're just hearing this thump coming towards the door. You're like, what is that? Tara, did you watch the Mephisto Waltz something the other night?

Tara

:: 18:34

No, I had to. I was at work. Unfortunately, there isn't.

Patrick

:: 18:36

They stole. I guaranteed that this movie because they never come up with anything original for these movies. They stole that scene from the Mephisto waltz.

Because there's a scene where Jacqueline Basette summons the devil and he shows up at the door. And it's the same thing. You're seeing the feet, like, through the crack at the bottom of the door. And the door opens and you're just seeing her face.

Seeing what? That. The door. But you never see it. But if it's the same angles, it's all the same. And it worked both times.

ies, but. The Mephisto Waltz,: 1971

Okay, so the devil shows up. But what happened?

Tara

:: 19:09

She draws a gun and tells him you can't have her. You said you'd stay away. And he's like, stayed away from 20 years, girl. She's a legal adult now. I can say what I want to her. And she fires.

And you see the gun is facing away from her, and somehow she gets shot in the chest. So Satan lives the I'm rubber, you're glue metaphor in real life.

Patrick

:: 19:34

Yep.

Alice

:: 19:35

You leave her alone. I mean it. I'll never let you touch her. Never.

Satan

:: 19:44

Goodbye, Alice.

Patrick

:: 19:49

You know what that reminded me of? The leg. You know the movie the Legacy?

Tara

:: 19:52

Yes.

Patrick

:: 19:53

With Sam Neill and Catherine Ross. There's a scene at the end where the guy pulls the gun on. On Sam Elliot. And then you see the front of the gun just seal itself over, so it explodes.

Yeah. I love that little fun little bit of witchcraftery. And I know people at home are like, what the just happened?

Tara

:: 20:09

I can't.

Patrick

:: 20:10

It's witch stuff. It's witch stuff. Anyway, I've had caffeine, so, like, yeah, we're off to the funeral. There's nobody there.

Kasey

:: 20:16

Nope.

Patrick

:: 20:17

Diane doesn't know her mom. She barely knows her mom. Mom was a distant mom.

Kasey

:: 20:21

Yeah.

Tara

:: 20:21

She says that she apparently got sent to boarding schools run by nuns because the priest later mentions that she grew up in schools and convents.

Diane

:: 20:30

I just wish I could have gotten to know Mother better. Well, you know, she was traveling around a lot, and I was always in some school or other.

Oh, she'd come to see me once or twice a year, and she wrote to me a great deal.

Lilith

:: 20:45

But what about?

Alice

:: 20:49

Well, never about herself. Her letters were always full of how to stay on the straight and narrow.

Yeah, I only heard from mom when she'd call up and be like, don't sin. Don't suck any dicks, Diane. Don't be like, don't suck any devil dicks like your mother.

Tara

:: 21:06

Pray harder.

Patrick

:: 21:07

Oh, yeah. But. But instead we have a mom substitute show up and Shelly Winters as Lilith Malone.

Alice

:: 21:15

I grew up with your mother.

Satan

:: 21:18

Oh, I'm very pleased to meet you.

Lilith

:: 21:20

This has been a terrible shock to me. I read about it in the papers. I thought your mother was still living in Cleveland.

Diane

:: 21:27

Yes. Your last letter to me was from Cleveland.

Lilith

:: 21:30

Oh, then you weren't with her when.

Diane

:: 21:32

No, I was in Baltimore.

Lilith

:: 21:36

It must be a dreadful shock to you too, dear. I was saying to Mr. Howard as we. Oh, excuse me. This is Mr. Howard, my chauffeur companion.

Diane

:: 21:46

How do you do?

Lilith

:: 21:47

He's mute. He's not deaf. So many people expect one that goes with the other. Is this her grave?

Diane

:: 21:58

Yes.

Lilith

:: 21:59

I'm sorry to have missed the religious services. But then Alice would have understood about that.

Patrick

:: 22:08

What an entrance. Like everything. Everything. I guaranteed all this was her clothes, because every outfit she wears is chef's kiss.

You can't take your eyes off Shelley Winter. She looks gorgeous.

Tara

:: 22:20

The hat.

Kasey

:: 22:21

There's a scene where she meets Shelley, and the hat isn't a witch hat, but they film it at that angle where it looked to me like a witch hat. And it was like, such a cool touch. And I love that she's like, I'm sorry that I missed the religious ceremony, but your mother would understand.

Like, that was just like. It was just like, I'm ready to hang out with this character, so.

Patrick

:: 22:44

But you're right. I know exactly the scene you're talking about. It was that leopard print. The leopard fur coat that she had on, that red cowboy hat that was styled.

That outfit was banging. Banging. But on that same note, there's a scene later on when she's yelling at Diane for. When she finds out it's an endora collar from Bewitched. She.

And with the wig, she is totally channeling adora. I'm like, I love it. I love this movie. Somebody. All the gays were having so much fun behind the scenes of this movie. And it shows any.

Tara

:: 23:14

Any movie from the 70s, if they go, like, full on for the fashion, I'm just like, I love you. I don't care if everything else is terrible. I love you.

Patrick

:: 23:23

No, the fashion. This overall was great. I didn't. I didn't have a problem. Like, nothing stuck out to be like, oh, my God, what the you wearing?

Even for: 1970

Lilith

:: 23:42

It seems like yesterday we were going to parties and dances. We had such fun. You know, you had a remarkable mother. And I never had a more Loving friend. I never will. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to carry on like this.

You must think I'm very foolish.

Diane

:: 24:06

Oh, no, no, not at all. I just wish I could feel the same way. You see, I never really knew my mother. She was always away when I was growing up.

Lilith

:: 24:21

Will you do me a big favor? Will you come home and have lunch with me?

Diane

:: 24:27

Yes. Yes, that would be very nice.

Lilith

:: 24:30

Good. Mr. Howard, the car. Isn't it marvelous?

Kasey

:: 24:38

It's wild. She's like, come over, have lunch. And then they're having lunch for, like, five minutes. And she's like, why don't you just live with me?

And she's like, all right.

Tara

:: 24:47

Don't stay in a hotel.

Lilith

:: 24:50

Are you planning to go back to Baltimore?

Diane

:: 24:53

No, I'd like to get a job here as a commercial artist.

Lilith

:: 24:57

Oh, that's what you want to be?

Diane

:: 24:59

Well, eventually. But I'm willing to work at anything right now.

Lilith

:: 25:02

Where are you staying, dear?

Diane

:: 25:03

The Stonehurst Hotel.

Lilith

:: 25:05

Well, that can run into a lot of money, can't it?

Diane

:: 25:07

Well, I thought that I could probably get an apartment or share one with.

Lilith

:: 25:11

Well, I have a marvelous idea. Why don't you just move in with me here for the time being, till you get settled?

Diane

:: 25:18

Oh, but I don't really think that.

Lilith

:: 25:20

Oh, I won't take no for an answer. Your mother would have wanted it, dear.

Diane

:: 25:25

That's very kind of you, but are you sure that I won't be in the way?

Lilith

:: 25:29

On the contrary, Mr. Howard. Mr. Howard, I would like you to go to the Stonehurst Hotel, pick up Diane's things. Diane's going to stay with us for a while.

Diane

:: 25:40

I don't know how I'll ever thank you.

Lilith

:: 25:44

It's I who should thank you, dear. You bring back such marvelous memories of your mother.

Patrick

:: 25:50

What really conspicuous piece of furniture is in the middle of Shelly Winter's living room?

Kasey

:: 25:56

The other main character. You know, the portrait of dad. Satan. Right.

Patrick

:: 26:02

Shoot.

Kasey

:: 26:02

Or are you talking huge portion of.

Patrick

:: 26:05

Satan in the middle of the living room? And nobody ever talks. Nobody's like, that's weird. What's that? Because it doesn't fit. It's not even passing his art.

It is straight up a comic book painting of Satan. And I just love it. Nobody comments or mention. Nobody thinks it's weird. Nothing, Nothing. I love it.

Tara

:: 26:21

The closest comment is when after Lilith gives Diane a ring that was apparently her mother's. A ring that could knock you out by accident. Like, just. And the symbol is in the painting, too. That's the closest you get to mentioning it.

Patrick

:: 26:34

This is the thing that bothers me with the movie. Like, and I know this is a whole. The whole trope of the movie of the 70s. Like what? I can never remember her name. And it bothers me.

You'll always come up with it because you do. You say me every time. It is the woman who wrote are you in the house alone? The book.

Tara

:: 26:49

Amanda Amanda Reyes.

Patrick

:: 26:52

Thank you. I don't know why I always want to call her Amanda. Hugging kiss. And that's not her name. Because that's not anybody's name. That's the knock knock joke.

Answer. But. Sorry, Amanda.

said, like these movies, the: 1970

I love this location they're into. I love this on the hill, this great house we're not shitting in that branch that they shoot everything at that burnt out ranch. It all looks great.

I don't know where it's going, but.

Tara

:: 27:31

Just with the painting and how everything's decorated, I think you were going with.

Patrick

:: 27:35

Yeah, well, yeah, I was just like, it's, it's. It's like everything in this house is just quality 70s garbage. It's what, like the giant ostrich feathers that we.

Ostrich feathers that we all had for some reason and. And they call her she. Diane's commenting on the furniture thing. I love your furniture. Everything's so nice.

But never notices the giant pants in the center of the conversation. But maybe she's not supposed to.

Diane

:: 27:55

My beautiful things you have.

Lilith

:: 27:58

Thank you, dear. I inherited most of them from my father. Some people would call it old fashioned, but I like it.

Diane

:: 28:07

Oh, they're very popular now.

Patrick

:: 28:08

It's one of the things I had to do. Headcanon on this movie after a while because what's their game? Because it turns out, not surprisingly, that not only. Hold on, I'm not.

I haven't done this in a while and it shows. So I forget about the format. Tell me about. Tell me about. Tell me about Jonathan Frid in this movie.

Kasey

:: 28:29

Tell me about.

Patrick

:: 28:32

Mr. Howard.

Kasey

:: 28:35

Mr. Howard, the chauffeur companion, as has been introduced by Shelley Winters. Lilith. He's.

Patrick

:: 28:42

He's my chauffeur companion and lover.

Kasey

:: 28:45

Lover. Maybe. I don't know. He always just stands there and looks upset about everything, you know, he's just kind of her shadow.

Tara

:: 28:52

He's mute, not death.

Patrick

:: 28:55

Everyone makes that mistake. I love Jonathan Referred for Joe Tara. Who is Jonathan? Fred.

Tara

:: 29:01

He's Barnabas from Dark Shadows. Yeah. So it's kind of weird that they don't have him saying anything at this time. People would have known him.

Patrick

:: 29:11

Well, that's the thing I'm wondering. Like I. When I looked at his IMDb, which I'm now trying to get the exact number. Okay, here. He didn't do much besides Dark Shadows.

He was a stage actor mostly back. But once he did Dark Shadows that was pretty much it for his career because he did 595 episodes of Dark Shadows.

That's an insane amount of television. That's an insane amount of tele. I think that. I mean, I'm not sure. It must have still been shooting at this point. It must have been.

So I think he would only be there sometimes. And like this is like I want to be in the movie, but okay, we'll have you in the movie. We're not gonna have to say.

Tara

:: 29:50

He's like, I'm very tired, but I do want to be here.

Patrick

:: 29:54

And I think it's a shame because he's kind of wasted. Because like I see what they were trying to do with this character that he's. He's supposed to be ominous.

He's supposed to like superimpose what you know about him. I'll tell you. Oh, that's Barnabas. He's going to be evil. But he's actually the one who's trying to help her because he cries at the end.

But none of it works. Never works. But that's okay because everything else. He's a disappointment. Everything else is great. Since we're ripping off Rosemary's Baby.

They're just not. They're the cast events of the movie. They're the cast events of the movie. These two.

And what would the cost of it be without their harem of freaky Satan friends?

Tara

:: 30:30

The lesbians. The lesbians.

Patrick

:: 30:32

And what would a cabal of freaky Satan friends be without a pair of twin sinister lesbians who aren't twins or sisters?

Kasey

:: 30:38

Brown.

Lilith

:: 30:40

That must be the Poolee sisters. My next door neighbors. They said they would stop by

Judith Poole

:: 30:45

Good afternoon.

Margaret Poole

:: 30:45

Hello, Lily.

Lilith

:: 30:46

Hello.

Judith Poole

:: 30:46

Have you told her yet?

Lilith

:: 30:49

Diane, I want you to meet my very good friend Janet and Margaret Poolee.

Diane

:: 30:54

How do you do? How nice to meet you.

Margaret Poole

:: 30:57

We knew your mother, of course. That was many years ago.

Lilith

:: 31:02

Diane is going to be staying with me for a while.

Margaret Poole

:: 31:04

How lovely. Wonderful. Yes.

Lilith

:: 31:07

Isn't that nice.

Patrick

:: 31:12

Kasey, tell me about. Tell me about a resident sinister lesbians.

Kasey

:: 31:16

I love our resident sinister lesbians. They always show up dressed exactly alike. And they always give up the plot to Diane inadvertently. They're like, have you told her?

Does she know about Friday? Does she know she's the daughter of Satan? Like, they're just like always, like, spilling the beans just a little bit.

Judith Poole

:: 31:38

Oh, look, it's Diane. Good morning, Diane.

Diane

:: 31:42

Ma, you looked lovely this morning.

Margaret Poole

:: 31:45

Look, she's wearing the ring.

Diane

:: 31:48

Oh, you know about that? Lilith gave it to me this morning. I don't suppose you know what the design signifies.

Judith Poole

:: 31:55

The what?

Diane

:: 31:56

The design. See, it's very distinctive. There's one like it on the picture inside.

Margaret Poole

:: 32:04

Oh, no, we don't know anything about that.

Judith Poole

:: 32:08

Besides, it's not for us to say. No. Well, I just thought that there's no need to worry.

Diane

:: 32:16

Well, I wasn't really worrying.

Judith Poole

:: 32:17

Good. You must come over to lunch, Tamara. Margaret makes a lovely apple strudel.

Diane

:: 32:27

Oh, yes, do come. Yes, all right.

Margaret Poole

:: 32:31

Wonderful. Bring Lilith.

Diane

:: 32:34

Okay. Goodbye.

Judith Poole

:: 32:36

Bye.

Margaret Poole

:: 32:37

And don't you worry about Friday night. There's nothing to be nervous about at all. Gossipy sinister lesbians are my favorite kind of sister lesbians.

Tara

:: 32:47

And the one with them makes a great apple strudel.

Lilith

:: 32:50

This is not the weather for apple strudel.

Kasey

:: 32:52

Come. Yes, yes.

Patrick

:: 32:56

She makes you. But. Yeah, I'm sorry, it's not the weather for strudel. That's terr. That's. You know, that's. Why do I say they're twins, but they're not twins?

Tara

:: 33:02

Because what is a white lady and what is a black lady?

Kasey

:: 33:06

What's.

Patrick

:: 33:07

Nobody ever mentinos it

.

Tara

:: 33:11

Their sisters. Quote heavy. Quote sisters.

Kasey

:: 33:16

Yes. Twin vibes. Big time, though.

Tara

:: 33:18

Margaret and Janet Poole.

Patrick

:: 33:20

They dress alike, they talk like they're serving the shining twin vibes without being like. They're not talking at the same time. But they have the exact identical energy. I want to give them their shout outs. They are. Okay, give me a second.

Lucille Benson is one, and the other one is Thelmer. Thelma Carpenter. Lucille Benson, renowned character actress. Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of credit. She was in Duel.

She was in. She was the widow in Tom Sawyer. Like the Tom Sawyer for my generation.

The one with Johnny Whitaker and with little baby Jody Foster as Becky Thatcher. She was in the straight possession of Mrs. Oliver with Karen Black, One Love Boat and one Wonder Woman.

But top of all, she was the woman that Michael Barr still stole the mayonnaise knife from in Halloween too.

Tara

:: 34:00

Classic.

Patrick

:: 34:00

I freaked out when I Found that today.

Kasey

:: 34:02

I knew I recognized her, too. When you sent that earlier, I was.

Patrick

:: 34:05

Like, oh, well, it's. It's 11 years later. It's a lot of time. And. Yeah, but. Yeah, the other. The other one, Thelma, she was in the Wiz in the Cotton Club.

Didn't do much, but she was a regular on the Paul Lynn Show.

Tara

:: 34:17

Gotta love our connections, which.

Patrick

:: 34:19

Which I think that might be all love boats and fantasy islands. As far as CamTV go. Great. The energy between them is great. I love this. A scene where we finally have the big satanic bacchanal.

They're sitting on the couch.

Kasey

:: 34:32

What?

Patrick

:: 34:33

And they. They have cats. They have cats in this party. They have one black cat and one white cat.

The white lady has the black, yet the black kitty has the white. I love it.

Margaret Poole

:: 34:41

Hello, Diane.

Judith Poole

:: 34:42

This is Mr. Rue, and

Margaret Poole

:: 34:45

this is Mr. Fong.

Patrick

:: 34:47

Reminded me of The Sentinal.. Yes. Black and white cat, black and white cake.

Kasey

:: 34:53

They look so cool. They got those blue dresses on with the white scarves that, like, go kind of the floor. And they're just carrying those cats and sitting on the couch.

And, like, they keep closing up to where you can't see them both. And it was driving me crazy because I just want more Poolee sisters in this movie.

Patrick

:: 35:09

Like, yeah, we don't need so much of this boyfriend. We need so much of the roommate. Where are the lesbians?

Kasey

:: 35:15

Yes. I mean, I come from a specific, you know, want for that, but, you.

Patrick

:: 35:20

Know, it's our demographic. What do you want? But they're there. They're there. In fact, they're there. They exist. They made me very happy. And they just totally coded.

And I love all of it. They're sisters. They're traveling companions. Even later on.

Even later on, when Diane's talking about them to Shelly, when she's like, don't you find them a little odd, peculiar?

Satan

:: 35:42

Anyone like them before? They're very nice, of course, but don't you think they're a little strange?

Kasey

:: 35:48

She's like, yes, they're the weirdest of my friends. And I have all of this. This cabal of strange friends.

Patrick

:: 35:53

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. The rest of the. I hang out with.

Kasey

:: 35:58

Yeah, wait, wait for the Mexican people from Mexico City.

Patrick

:: 36:00

You know, a pagoda. And his gigantic.

Tara

:: 36:02

Yeah.

Patrick

:: 36:03

Dave of Goat is in this movie. People in the second half of the movie, they didn't even leave with a pagoda. Ava God and Shelly Winters on the screen at the same time.

Oh, my God, the camp. Camp is so huge. I started to realize that I was worried what's the game. Like, the first time through is really bothering me. I'm like, why?

What do they want from her? Because they're dancing around telling her like they're doing a shitty job. Like she's catching on to things.

Like, she spots the ring right when they give her the ring. And it's basically like, is it filled with tannis root by any chance? Because it should be filled with Tanner's Road, because this is the same.

Lilith

:: 36:40

You know what I came across last night? This ring. It was your mother's.

Diane

:: 36:46

It's beautiful.

Lilith

:: 36:49

She gave it to me a long time ago for safekeeping. Right after you were born. Your father must have given it to her. I think she would want you to have it now.

Diane

:: 36:59

Thank you. That's really very thoughtful of you.

Lilith

:: 37:02

Not at all.

Patrick

:: 37:03

And she realizes it's the same one of the devils wearing the painting. It bothered. That's where I was going before that. She's not asking questions. She's not inquisitive. Dan's not inquisitive. She's just got. Things happen.

red towards housewives of the: 1970

Well, I'd let somebody else figure out, unfortunately. Yeah. And like, that's why there's so much gaslighting in this movie.

Because that's what women would be afraid of, that something like this would be happening to me. And no one's going to pay attention to me or no one's going to believe me. They're playing on that kind of a fear.

Tara

:: 37:38

Well, like, the one advice we ever get from the priest is, hey, move in with this other girl. Oh, and tell her to start watching Julia Child so she can find herself a husband.

Priest

:: 37:48

I have nothing against Lilith. I've heard all the gossip, and I don't believe any of it. But I think you should be with people your own age.

You've led a very sheltered life up to now. School and convents. You should get away from all that. Find yourself a man. Now, here's the address.

Goon

:: 38:11

And you might tell that runabout Susan from me to start watching Julia Child.

Patrick

:: 38:17

If she wants to get to the.

Priest

:: 38:18

Altar, the way that works best still runs through the kitchen

Kasey

:: 38:20

Barf.

Tara

:: 38:26

So when, like, Diane meets a guy, it's. Yeah, that's a whole thing. Later on, yeah, she beats the guy.

Patrick

:: 38:32

I need to take a moment for the priest. I need to take a moment for the priest. Because I spent the whole movie thinking he was the Father from the Sentinel.

The dead father from the Sentinel who has the cream pie orgy with. With the two over with plus sized women. It's not him. It's not him. It's even better. It's even better. I don't know.

Apparently this guy was super talented and like did everything from Shakespeare. Like huge Shakespearean actor. He would do anything. And I can't find his name anywhere and I'll fix it later. Probably.

Tara

:: 38:54

You see him and you're like, you. You know, you've seen him in from like a billion things immediately.

Patrick

:: 38:59

Well, well, for those of you who used to listen to scream queens, he was in this. He was in the Facts of Life Halloween special, the one where they thought Mrs. Garrett was murdering the patients that turned into Bradford. He's.

He's Mr. Bigley, the guy they thought he got. Got murdered, but he didn't get murdered. Oh, sure, he played Hamlet and all this other.

But he was Mr. Big Life on the Halloween episode, which is the most important piece of television that's ever been made. Anyway, I'm back now. I can't. I have to remember, I can't scream into this microphone because it can't handle it. But I'm just very excited to talk.

But like I said, I kept wondering what the game was because like you said earlier, like they keep. The Poolee sisters keep dropping bombs that you think aren't supposed to be dropped. Like she meets them in the garden.

The main one says, not the one who said, we knew your mother, the other one, we knew your mother. We knew your mother. Oh, don't. By the way, Diane, there's no need to be nervous about Friday.

Kasey

:: 40:01

Don't worry about it.

Tara

:: 40:04

That symbol, we've never seen it. It's just on our wind chime right above your head.

Patrick

:: 40:09

Yeah, well, yeah, There's a symbol that keeps popping up everywhere and I'm going, why are these people such bad liars?

Diane

:: 40:16

I don't suppose you know what the design signifies.

Judith Poole

:: 40:20

The what?

Diane

:: 40:21

The design.

Kasey

:: 40:22

The.

Diane

:: 40:23

See, it's very distinctive. There's one like it on the picture inside.

Margaret Poole

:: 40:29

Oh, no, we don't know anything about that.

Judith Poole

:: 40:33

Besides, it's not for us to say.

Diane

:: 40:35

No, Well, I just thought that there's.

Margaret Poole

:: 40:38

No need to worry.

Diane

:: 40:41

Well, I wasn't really worrying.

Margaret Poole

:: 40:42

Good.

Patrick

:: 40:44

Shelley Winters lies about. Oh,

Lilith

:: 40:45

I don't know what it is. Probably just some Spanish thing.

These are Spanish cigarettes because they're even on the cigarettes. Even though closed cigarettes. She smokes black everywhere.

Diane

:: 40:51

The insignia on the cigarettes, it's the same as On Mother's ring. What does it mean?

Lilith

:: 40:58

I haven't the slightest idea. It's a common symbol around California. Probably Mexican or Spanish in origin. These are Spanish cigarettes.

Diane

:: 41:08

It's also on the picture.

Lilith

:: 41:10

Well, so it is. You know, I never noticed that before. You are very observant, Diane. That's the mark of a successful artist.

Kasey

:: 41:22

I mean, it might be the champagne they're drinking all the time. Because hard to keep secrets with champagne.

Patrick

:: 41:28

When you have a chauffeur. When you have a chauffeur.

Kasey

:: 41:30

Onion.

Patrick

:: 41:30

There's always champagne in the house. Probably pink. It probably pink champagne because it's super fancy for 1970s.

Tara

:: 41:36

As I said earlier, like, they're really enthusiastic, which is great, but they just need to calm down a little and introduce it to her better.

Patrick

:: 41:47

Well, that's what I had stopped at the thing. When I started realizing the second time, no, this is part of the game, I started to worry. I'm like, does she need to come to this on her own?

Is it like, the Wicker Man? Do we have to keep, like, giving you an out and you don't take it? Or is it just, like, you. Like, we need you to wake up.

We need part of you to recognize the symbol. We can't tell you what it is because if we tell you what it is. I don't know, whatever, like, he's gonna get mad.

It'll be better if you find out on your own. So when we have this party on Friday, it'll all make sense because. Yeah, they're throwing her apart.

That's the thing that she's not supposed to be nervous about on Friday. So I'm thinking that's the game. Like, she has to come to this on her own.

Like, this was stage one, and stage one doesn't work because the party is a flop. What happens at this party? What happens is this. This mad Satan is backing off.

Tara

:: 42:31

White girl dances and then screams.

Kasey

:: 42:36

And they. Oh, no. I was just gonna say, like, they again, can't hold their tongues. And they just start chanting at her. Just, you are his daughter.

The devil's daughter. Hail, Princess. Or Queen Diane. Queen Diane. Yeah.

Tara

:: 42:52

You will marry whatever the frigate is.

Kasey

:: 42:55

You will marry Steve. No, The. The demon of indoor golden eyes.

Patrick

:: 43:02

Okay? She has to bury the demon of Endor. Endor is where the Ewoks are from. Okay, I'm very confused. But anyway, not the point right now.

But, no, here's the thing with the party. Like, first of all, all of the outfits are amazing. Amazing. Shelly Winters is wearing gold glitter eyeshadow I'm like, I'm in, I'm in for this party.

Everybody looks absolutely fabulous and absolutely hideous at the same time. I loved all of it. A ghost shows up and his eyelashes, his eyebrows are gigantic. And I'm yelling again. I have to calm down.

Tara

:: 43:31

The beginning shots of it. If you have seen Rosemary's Baby, where like, it is like a first person directly, like, you see where that was from in this one.

Just like the party scene because it's like point of view of Diane, Shelley Winter's face, Abe Pagoda's face.

Lilith

:: 43:48

Diane, I want you to relax and enjoy yourself. After all, you're the guest of honor. Everyone wants to meet you. Lilith, Mr. Alakine.

Doctor

:: 44:01

My darling Diane, so nice to see you again after all these years.

Diane

:: 44:09

How do you do?

Doctor

:: 44:10

You've grown into a very beautiful young lady.

Diane

:: 44:14

Thank you, Diane.

Lilith

:: 44:16

Mr. Alekine and Kitty flew all the way from Mexico City just to be here tonight.

Doctor

:: 44:21

I'm a social anthropologist. I study ancient cultures.

Lilith

:: 44:25

We're going to do one of his dances later.

Doctor

:: 44:28

I hope that you will join in.

Diane

:: 44:31

Yes.

Lilith

:: 44:31

All right, Diane, drink up your drink and then have another one. There you are.

Diane

:: 44:41

Thank you.

Patrick

:: 44:43

Diane, finish your cocktail. Here's another one.

Kasey

:: 44:45

Yes, drink it up. We gotta do a dance later.

Patrick

:: 44:51

Okay, now, those of you who listen to scream queens know damn well one of my favorite things in a horror movie is a completely unnecessary choreographed dance number where all of a sudden Shelly went to. Oh, a pagoda is visit. If you don't know, he was on Barney Miller. He was on. He was fished from the sitcom fisheries in the Godfather.

For some reason, Gen X, people love him. We love him, we adore him and we don't know why. Even though we've never seen him in anything like he's only done of a couple things.

We know, but for something Aoda, he lives in our hearts. But the fact that he showed up and he's there and Aoda is going to lead us in a ceremonial dance he brought all the way from South America. I'm in.

I am like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like Allison with boobs. You know, like, okay, I'm giving. Give me a show me, show me, show me, show me, show me, show me dance.

So I'm very excited. But I realized the dance was the test. It was like, this is the test. The fact that I could. Yeah. The whole. What happened to this dance?

What happens to this dance? This dance up using the air quotes.

Kasey

:: 45:46

I mean, as far as I could tell, they Just started sort of pacing around a few steps, a bit back and forth. And then Diane does join in pacing. And then she seems to kind of lose control and get more into it, more witchy and witchier and witchier.

And then they start chanting at her.

Patrick

:: 46:28

Because to me, that was the proof that they needed that this, like, she.

Goon

:: 46:31

She.

Patrick

:: 46:31

The dance woke something up in her. Is her. She is the one. She is the daughter. Satan.

Doctor

:: 46:38

You are your mother's daughter.

Lilith

:: 46:41

She was one of us.

Judith Poole

:: 46:43

She got religion and turned away.

Doctor

:: 46:45

You are your father's daughter.

Patrick

:: 46:48

No, no, he is the evil one. They are seeing one.

Goon

:: 46:54

He is somehow.

Margaret Poole

:: 46:55

He is Lucifer.

Lilith

:: 46:57

No, he is Satan.

Goon

:: 47:01

And you are his daughter. You are his heir. The princess of darkness. You wear the ring, the symbol of the coven.

Satan

:: 47:11

No, the ring is just.

Alice

:: 47:12

You are the princess royal, destined to rule us.

Doctor

:: 47:16

Destined to marry.

Goon

:: 47:18

Destined to marry the demon of Endor. The one with the glowing eyes.

Diane

:: 47:22

You got the wrong person. It's a mistake.

Patrick

:: 47:25

She is our princess. She's going to lead us. And the fact that it all blows up in their faces, she's like, no, I'm not.

Kasey

:: 47:30

Well, they go a little heavy, right? Because they're like, you are the daughter of Satan. He is Satan. Lucifer. Like they called him everything. He is the evil one.

Like, they just came on so strong. They.

Patrick

:: 47:42

They gave her a crown. They gave you a crown, bitch. They did not. A tiara. Not a little. T. Not only take. No, they gave you a full. I'm not a Burger King crown.

It was a fabulous crown.

Tara

:: 47:50

Like, yes, if she had accepted, we would have had a very different movie for the second half.

Patrick

:: 47:56

But no, she freaks out and she runs away. And it's not these horrible people. But what I was so sad about is that I was talking to Kasey beforehand. Scenes like this party.

Scenes like this are incredibly expensive to shoot. You need a lot of extras. You need a lot of people to fill the room. And they take forever because you just have to do so much shepherding of people.

Everything takes three times as longer as it would in a shoot with two people. So this, that. That probably took two days to shoot that scene.

And the rule for a: 1970

And the thing is, when you're an extra, all those people in the scene that I thought were going to join into this, this wild orgiastic dance. None of it happened Dance. They're all just standing in a circle.

Ava Goda literally just walks one way, walks the other way, walks one way, walks the other way. She follows. It turns into a Willa Balsam commercial with her dancing. We're tossing her hair around. There's no set choreography.

Because I realized if they had set choreography, they would have to have paid everybody a specialty rate that would have cost tens of thousands of dollars to see. And they were not gonna, you know, just walk around. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. It's fine. It's fine. It gets the point across.

Tara

:: 49:11

Step in, step out. Step in, step out.

Kasey

:: 49:16

Feel Satan in your heart.

Patrick

:: 49:20

Part of me but think this is just a disappointing game because I was expecting. I was expecting some fabulous, ritualistic dance. They were just complete abandoned. And also, part of me was going, does Ava go to dance?

Does he dance? Because those. That generation, they were all come from vaudeville. They could do everything. Like, they always had surprise, hidden talents.

I'm like, if he start dancing and he's brilliant, I'm gonna die. But no, it didn't happen. Now he's a plucker. That's fine. He's still able to go down. We love him and he'll never die. But yes, the party.

The party is a complete flop. She runs away. She says, never want to talk to any of you again. And the movie's over, right? She goes. She goes and lives a great life somewhere else.

As a stenographer.

Tara

:: 49:56

Runs back to her apartment with her kindergarten teacher. Horse riding roommate.

Kasey

:: 50:02

Yep, horse crazy.

Patrick

:: 50:04

I loved her roommate.

Susan

:: 50:05

Notice, Diane, I have a passion for horses. And on a kindergarten teacher's salary, that. Is quite an expensive hobby. Say, why don't you come down with. Me to the stables this afternoon and.

Patrick

:: 50:15

I'll show you my pride and joy. Yeah, I liked her. This is another. Another one who didn't work a lot, but she only did, like, eight or nine things. But I thought she was great.

She had a Marlo Thomas thing going on that I found very appealing. She made it feel like a different movie. She was serving romantic comedy, which is nice. It was a different feel from the rest of the movie.

Yeah, I liked her, but I think she's gonna die. I can't like her too much. There's a good day. The other thing that I wanted to say, I talked to Kasey beforehand.

I think both of you said, lower your expectations.

After I watched the movie, I said, lower expectations because they really did not have money to spend on this one, because it's things like Diane's having nightmares all the time. We never see them. No, we never see any of the scary stuff happen. We all hear about it later. And that's what is why I'm shocked we saw a horse at all.

Diane's new roommate, Susan, loves horses. Loves horses. The fact that we saw a horse at all amazed me because that was an expensive thing to do.

But we're on that ranch probably, so they're around.

Tara

:: 51:15

Yeah, it is. That was one thing I was kind of thought was odd that, like, they would the first time she has, like, a really big nightmare.

They're panning across the room. And I wondered, like, well, if you're not going to show us the nightmare, why aren't you just doing, like, the typ.

Sit up suddenly cut into that instead of like, the whole panning over, hearing her having it.

Patrick

:: 51:36

Exactly. She needed to wake up, like you said, and, like, go walk around the house in a diaphragmous nightgown. Which also didn't happen in this movie.

So, yeah, strike two. Strike two.

Tara

:: 51:46

It had the same feeling. When the roommate does die, it's she goes out on a date and we don't see anything. It's. We get a phone call from her date going, she dies at all.

Kasey

:: 51:58

Either. He's just kind of like something bad happens.

Diane

:: 52:02

Hello?

Steve

:: 52:03

Diane, something.

Patrick

:: 52:05

Dr. Graham.

Steve

:: 52:07

Terrible has happened.

Diane

:: 52:09

It's Susan.

Steve

:: 52:10

Yes, she.

She's dead. Oh, it happened so fast. I. After taking. After dinner, she took me to the stables. She wanted to show me a horse. Something happened. The horse went wild.

It was almost as if they were attacking her. I tried to help, but it was useless. Even with the stable boy, we couldn't get near her.

Diane

:: 52:35

No, Diane, no.

Patrick

:: 52:40

There was a really freaky accident.

Tara

:: 52:42

It felt like he came back from the date where she died, is in the room with Diane, and then it goes, hey, you want to go see a movie?

Diane

:: 52:51

Look, I know it all sounds silly, but ever since I saw that photograph album at her place and all those pictures of me, I mean, at first I paid no attention to it, but after those nightmares and the party and their insistence that I'm part of their cult, I don't know what I think anymore.

Steve

:: 53:10

Maybe the figurines were broken by some kind of sympathetic reaction to Susan's death. Then again, they could have been broken by a couple of mice battling over them.

I'm sure there are a lot of mice who would be willing to do battle over a pretty lady like yourself. I don't know how the figurines were broken, but the solution lies in Knowledge and not in black magic.

Okay, so let's just drop this whole discussion, huh, and go to a movie.

Satan

:: 53:42

Yes, I think that's a great idea.

Kasey

:: 53:44

Yes. This like I'm moving on. There's a girl right here. Let's go.

Tara

:: 53:48

Like I threw a mattress at her when I moved in.

Kasey

:: 53:53

That was a meet cute. Come on.

Patrick

:: 53:55

This is why you never trust to Steve. Steve is going to ruin everything. Her new boyfriend Steve.

Kasey

:: 54:00

Steve Stone.

Patrick

:: 54:02

Steve Stone. Steve Stone, architect. Because the 70s and everybody in these movies was an architect. Everybody, everybody. You had to have an architect at all time.

It's played by Robert Foxworth. Robert Foxwood, wonderful stap actor of the 70s.

I feel like they feel like he had a career because they wanted a Robert Reed, but with who's able to smolder like Robert Reed was a good actor, but he had no sex appeal. This guy had sex appeal. He used to be. He was married to Elizabeth Montgomery from Bewitched. Yeah, he had a great horror career.

He's still working, God bless him.

Tara

:: 54:32

Had very good hair.

Kasey

:: 54:33

Very good.

Patrick

:: 54:34

He has great hair. He's got great hair. One of the most important things that he can BE in the 70s we were talking about earlier, like about Murder She Wrote.

If you weren't on Murder She Wrote, weren't anybody in the 70s. It was Airport Movies. He was in Airport 77. So he's a somebody.

Kasey

:: 54:47

Steve.

Patrick

:: 54:48

He was, he was in that movie Ants that we watched the terrible TV movie Ants, where the ants take over the hotel with Suzanne Summers. It's terrible. It's terrible. It's a good movie. But he, he's great at it. But he's in Damien Omen 2. He's one of the, he dies horribly. I forget it.

I think he's the one that drowns.

Tara

:: 55:03

I think I haven't seen it in ages. I don't remember.

Patrick

:: 55:06

I, I, I could see his face in it now. He's one of the, the, one of the, the, the bad, the bad guys. What the hell?

Tara

:: 55:13

He's another guy. You see him and you're like, I know. I've seen him.

Patrick

:: 55:16

Yeah, he was, he was in the, the Prophecy. Not the one with the angels, but the, the one with the mutant bear that we also watched a few months ago at our movie club.

And he's the voice of Ratchet on the Transformer movies. So he's still worried about good for him. And he does fine in this. He does exactly what he's supposed to do.

He's supposed to be the, the sm, the smoldering boyfriend he's the gaslighter. He's. He's like. He's that influence that you normally get in these things. He just. He never really listens to anything that she says.

He's this just dare to be the man that he's going to take you away from all of this.

Kasey

:: 55:44

Oh, I was just gonna say he says some of the weirdest lines in the movie. Like whenever her roommate dies and the horse sculptures, the glass horse sculptures are broken. And he's like, maybe some mice broke these.

Because, you know, mice would go wild over a beautiful woman like you and break these. It's just like, what are you talking about? He just had some really strange lines in the movie that I found like very just off putting in a way.

Patrick

:: 56:11

That's the word for it. I said, really? I mean, there's gaslighting and then there's obnoxious gaslighting. Like you're not even trying to hide the fact that you're guessing.

Maybe it was some mice who thinks it's hot.

Kasey

:: 56:21

Like mice might be lustful of you and fight over you and break these sculptures is like the weirdest pickup line ever. I think if anybody said that about. To me on a date or something, I would be like, we're done.

Patrick

:: 56:33

He's like, okay, is weird.

Tara

:: 56:37

Maybe some of the pacing of this movie does have. I have issues with. And how late he kind of comes in was one of them because it is just very much. He goes on three dates with her roommate.

Her roommate dies on that third date and then they're dating and like married within a week.

Kasey

:: 56:54

Yeah. They go to the mom's house and then they get married because he's.

Patrick

:: 56:57

He's phase two of the plan. Phase one didn't work. Now we're going to have to bring.

Tara

:: 57:01

In the hot gun because the upstairs roommates, right after upstairs neighbors, right after she moves in, suddenly move out.

Patrick

:: 57:08

My roommate, Diane Shaw.

Satan

:: 57:10

Diane, this is Steve Stone. Hello.

Steve

:: 57:12

Hi.

Diane

:: 57:14

How's your mattress?

Steve

:: 57:16

It's fine.

Susan

:: 57:18

Glad to hear it. While we're on the subject, how's your box spring? What's with the mattresses? You guys met before or something?

Steve

:: 57:26

Yeah, we bumped into to each other.

Diane

:: 57:28

When he was moving in. I'm sorry if I was rude.

Steve

:: 57:32

Oh, no, look, it was my fault. I should apologize.

Diane

:: 57:35

Well accepted because.

Patrick

:: 57:38

Yeah, I certainly realized like the. The priest is in on everybody. Just like Rosemary's Baby, everybody's in on everybody's pushing her towards this thing. Like your things that.

Because that's when the priest shows up is like, you should move out. You should get a roommate. And if you get a roommate, that we could hook you up with this guy because you're not going to trust her anymore.

We got to find somebody else for you to. To trust. So it's got to be this dude. And. And that's how it goes. And the other thing is that I thought was fun. Joseph Cotton is in this movie.

I hate Joseph Cotton. I know he was in Citizen Kane. He's one of the greatest actors of his generation.

But by this time, every time he pops up in a movie, I'm like, because he's always the bad guy. He's always the bad guy. It's already spoiled. Once he shows up, he's like, oh, it's got to be him. Not surprising. He's saying, spoiler. He's Satan, but.

And Satan's a lawyer. He's a lawyer obsessed with golf.

Kasey

:: 58:19

For some reason.

Patrick

:: 58:20

I hated all the obsessed with golf. And he handles the club really weirdly the whole time. And he's got this weird New England accent for no reason. I hated it the first time.

I thought those scenes were so boring. The second time, they're going, oh, my God, he's so black. Philipping her in every one of these scenes.

Judge

:: 58:37

Well, Diane, it seems you've come into some money. $15,000, to be exact.

Diane

:: 58:44

Yes, I read that in the letter. Is it from my mother's estate?

Judge

:: 58:47

No, it's a trust fund set up by your father 20 years ago.

Diane

:: 58:51

Oh, did you know my father?

Judge

:: 58:53

I wasn't with the firm at the time. From what I gather, he established this trust fund soon after your birth. Now, if I've got your signature on some of these papers.

Something bothering you?

Diane

:: 59:08

Yes, I suppose there is.

Judge

:: 59:10

What is it?

Diane

:: 59:11

Well, I've met some of my mother's friends. You're into some cult, some devil worship or something.

And I know this is going to sound silly to you, but they've actually referred to me as the devil's daughter.

Judge

:: 59:24

This devil stuff, do you believe it?

Diane

:: 59:27

No, no, of course not.

Judge

:: 59:30

Well, then if you don't believe this mumbo jumbo, it can't possibly hurt you. You have to believe in something to make it real. Isn't that correct?

Diane

:: 59:40

That sounds very correct.

Judge

:: 59:42

Now, if you'll just sign that copy. And this one here, every single one.

Patrick

:: 59:48

Of these seats, he's like, okay, I need you to sign this. This is for the money that your dad left you. Are you gonna sign this? Okay, great. You need me to walk me down the aisle?

Well, let me ask you something. Do you love him? And she goes, yes, I love him with all my heart. I love him more than my own life.

Judge

:: 00:03

When is the wedding?

Diane

:: 00:04

Friday. Near his mother's place. There's a chapel up there. That's where she was married.

Judge

:: 00:12

Diane, let me ask you something.

Diane

:: 00:13

Huh?

Judge

:: 00:14

What do you think? Think it's the right thing to do?

Diane

:: 00:18

He loves me, Judge, and I need him.

Judge

:: 00:22

What I want to know is, do you love him?

Diane

:: 00:25

More than anything in the world. More than my life.

Judge

:: 00:31

Diane, it's the only thing to do.

Diane

:: 00:35

Oh, thank you. I was hoping you'd say that. Judge, I want to ask you a favor.

Judge

:: 00:41

What is it?

Diane

:: 00:42

Well, you know that my father died when I was very young, and I know very few people out here, but even if I knew lots, I'd still want you to come to the ceremony and be the one to give me away.

Judge

:: 00:57

Dear, dear Diane, Nothing would give me more pleasure.

Patrick

:: 01:01

You okay? Deals on just contract. Just signed. The rest of the movie doesn't matter. Anything you do from here on, it's sealed. Your fate's sealed, honey.

So I just realized that at a certain point in the movie, she sealed her own fate. Oh, yeah, and everything else, we're just. We're just waiting for the wedding now. I want to talk about. I want to talk about Steve's mom.

I loved Steve's mom. Tell me about Steve's mom. Tell me about their date to meet her mom, like three days after. Three days after his falling ex girlfriend dies.

They're going to meet his mom, but okay, whatever.

Kasey

:: 01:34

She has a beautiful house, a beautiful property, beach front. She's teacher. He's taught her son, like a ton of information about mythology, which is so cool, what you want in a man, right?

Patrick

:: 01:46

The mom is Martha Scott. Martha Scott, nominated for an Oscar, 1941, for Our Town, but she was in the Ten Commandments. She was in Ben Hur Airport 75. So she's somebody. She's.

She's Fern's mom, the voice friend's mom on Charlotte's Web. She's in a TV movie called Sorority Kill, which sounds amazing. And she did one Love Boat, one Magnum, and one Murder She Wrote.

That's pretty good too.

Kasey

:: 02:09

That's.

Patrick

:: 02:09

That's a good lineup for.

Tara

:: 02:10

Nice spread.

Patrick

:: 02:10

I, I love her because she's, she's. I. She's one of the few people in this movie who's in on it, but doesn't play the game like she's not giving you evil at all. She's so warm.

It's so accepting. But all their dialogue that. See, this two is. Is playing two sides.

Mrs. Stone

:: 02:25

Steve, I don't like going over old ground, but are you sure you need for me, your Uncle Charlie?

Steve

:: 02:32

Yes, Mother, absolutely sure.

Mrs. Stone

:: 02:35

Stubborn, just like his father. I wonder what he would have thought of all this.

Steve

:: 02:42

He'd have approved.

Mrs. Stone

:: 02:43

Yes, I suppose he would.

Tara

:: 02:46

Again, if Satan had more people with chill, it would have been fine. Just like, bring her in so much more easily.

Patrick

:: 02:53

Well, it doesn't matter. The contract's already been signed. This is like, I gotta meet your mom now. This is. Yeah, they're coasting and they're.

They're talking it right in front of her, but she's not getting it. Like, what would you. What would you. What would your father think? I think he'd be pleased. Mom, this is going awfully fast.

What would your father think?

Tara

:: 03:15

Both your fathers.

Patrick

:: 03:19

Yeah. Oh. So does that mean Steve's mom is the Diane of the previous generation? Because it seems like that's how this goes.

Like she seems like she married a demon. That she's got a demon son. And this. This is how this goes. We passed the torch. We passed the crown. Is that how this goes?

Look at this wonderful life you're going to live. Look at this beautiful house. This is not my beautiful house. This is not my beautiful wife.

Tara

:: 03:44

It could be why she has a better house than Shelley Winters even.

Patrick

:: 03:47

No. Oh, that cliffside house.

Tara

:: 03:49

Because Shelly Winters could not have children.

Patrick

:: 03:52

No, she could not have children. Shelly did not have it. She had. She had. She had lots of tailored outfits, but she did not have the flowing gowns that mom had. She just.

These casual flowing gowns that just like, said, bring me a cocktail. Just bring me another cocktail. I loved her. I thought she was great. This occurred to me today. Do we ever see Joseph Cotton walk?

Kasey

:: 04:12

No. No, he's always sitting behind the desk. Clever, right?

Tara

:: 04:17

Yeah, clever. And then when we're going to. He calls Diane to say he had a horrible accident and broke his ankle.

Judge

:: 04:26

Diane.

Diane

:: 04:27

Judge. What's the matter?

Judge

:: 04:29

I've done the stupidest thing. Tripped down some stairs, twisted my leg and sprained my ankle.

Diane

:: 04:35

Is it serious? Do you want me to come over?

Judge

:: 04:37

Heck, no. I'm leaving soon myself. I just wanted you to know that I won't be able to see you tonight for dinner. That's all.

Diane

:: 04:44

Oh, but you will be coming to the wedding?

Judge

:: 04:46

Oh, sure. I'll be at the wedding, come hell or high water.

Tara

:: 04:51

So when he shows up to walk her down the aisle with crutches. That's why? No other reason.

Patrick

:: 04:59

Because one of the things Like, I was bothering me. I'm like, why did. Why did the guy at the beginning have crutches? Why was that necessary? And I wasn't. I was. I thought the connection wasn't clear.

So, like, I. I didn't get that.

Kasey

:: 05:09

You know what?

Patrick

:: 05:09

I jumped ahead. Let's forget I said that. We'll go back to that later.

Kasey

:: 05:15

All right?

Patrick

:: 05:16

It's the big day. Let's just jump to the. Tell me about the wedding. How does the wedding go? It's the day of the wedding. Y' all happy ever after.

Kasey

:: 05:26

There's almost no one there because she has no.

Tara

:: 05:29

She has no family or friends out there. She's only recently moved this.

Kasey

:: 05:35

And her roommate died.

Patrick

:: 05:37

It's been like, two days. But no, I loved all that. I loved. I loved when you see her walking down the island is just this empty church. I'm like, this is weird. You don't.

Do you not get how weird this is? Girl, are you. Are you under his thrall or what? But no, she.

Tara

:: 05:51

And it's a church on his mom's porch property.

Patrick

:: 05:53

Yeah. Yeah. Where they. Where she got married. A cuz we've been to a church where she knows the priest. You know, she knows the. Why are we getting married?

Oh, we're going to leave. Well, because this one's a special church. That's different.

What I loved here is that the wedding's going on, and once the ring goes on, the figure she had to close up on Diane's face. And she's beaming, and you're starting to see people file in the rows behind her. And she doesn't know. I got goosebumps. Like, what this? What's this?

I. Messiah of evil. It reminded me of that scene in the movie theater with the same things happening with girls.

Just watching the movie and just seeing people filling in the seats behind her. And she had no idea what's going.

Kasey

:: 06:32

It was so good. They're all quiet, skulking in. They're all in black. You know exactly who it is. But it's still, like, it's so effective.

Patrick

:: 06:40

What are they gonna do? How is she gonna do? And she turns around, sees them, and it's so great. It. Such a freak. Such a quick. Cuz Shelly Winters is beaming.

She's serving wedding joy. Oh, my God, this is so fun. Oh, everybody's there. All the weirdos moving.

Tara

:: 07:13

Give Steve's mom a rope.

Patrick

:: 07:15

Sorry we were late.

Kasey

:: 07:16

We hit traffic.

Patrick

:: 07:17

Yay. But Steve's going to save her, right?

Tara

:: 07:20

No, not so much.

Patrick

:: 07:31

No. She's got those Yellow eyes now fire burning. Apparently she married the demon of Endor. Steve, demon. Render Steve.

Kasey

:: 07:41

Hail Steve, Demon of Indor.

Patrick

:: 07:44

He's not just evil, he's ste. Thank you. Thank you. For some reason, the first time through, I did not connect it. That was Joseph Cotton is the devil because he's got a wig on.

He's got a bad wig on. It didn't make the connection. For some reason. I don't know why.

Tara

:: 07:59

You look over and you see the crutches abandoned on the pew.

Patrick

:: 08:03

I don't know why I didn't put any of this together. Because I realized, oh, at the very last second, I figured it out. Well, I mean, because I figured out. I'm like, oh, he's the devil.

Oh, oh, he's the guy with the crutches at the beginning. Oh, that's what. Did we ever see him walk? We've never seen him walk. He's always been behind the desk. We've never seen him outside that desk.

I bet he's got cloven feet. Haha. Oh, fuck. He does have cloven feet. Oh my God, he's got cloven feet. That's why he has grudges.

Kasey

:: 08:28

I wouldn't have noticed it. Like, I did notice on the first watch, only because my wife was watching with me and she was like. She said exactly that. Like. And I was like.

I did not, not pick that up.

Patrick

:: 08:38

I didn't the first time. I did the second time, but again, it was bothering me. I'm like, plot holes like this, this vague. This is vague.

The connection between the guy at the beginning. Like, is he like. I thought it was the devil, but he wasn't the devil. He was just. The guy watched it. Oh, no, he didn't walk her down the aisle.

Didn't he? No, he didn't. He did.

Kasey

:: 08:53

He didn't.

Tara

:: 08:54

Broke his ankle and so you see him hobble in.

Patrick

:: 08:58

No, he's.

Tara

:: 08:58

Which could have just been like in.

Patrick

:: 09:01

The same pose that he's in the painting.

Judge

:: 09:04

Arise, my daughter and take thy father's hand.

Patrick

:: 09:42

And that's how the movie ends. They just surround her and it's over. It's downbeat 70s ending. Or a happy ending, depending on how you look at it. Because she's the queen.

She's the queen of hell now. Good for you, girl. Good for you.

Kasey

:: 09:53

Should it take red silhouette lighting? Let's go like, perfect.

Patrick

:: 09:57

Should have taken the crown when we gave it to the first. Would have saved a lot of heartbreak and agony. No. At a lot of expense. Because do you think, oh my Other favorite thing was when the scene change.

We're. We're in this lovely white chapel, and then, like, the camera shifts and everything's black up. Flowers are dead. It's a completely different set.

I love that. Like, it was all a glamour. It was all witchcraft. I love that.

Tara

:: 10:17

And, you know, in, like, the reception after, they're gonna be like, sweetie, it's great. You just. It's not what you think.

Patrick

:: 10:23

It is what you think. The sex is gonna be awful. You're gonna have a baby. But it'll just be the one time.

Tara

:: 10:28

But, yeah, his penis looks weird, but it's. It's not that often it's for.

Patrick

:: 10:34

It'll. That baby's gonna rip you to shreds.

Tara

:: 10:37

We'll schedule a C section.

Patrick

:: 10:42

Which also won't help. It's not gonna come out. It ain't coming out where you think it's coming out. I don't know what that means, but.

Tara

:: 10:48

A personal thing for me, how her hair is and with her veil and her topper and everything. My parents were married in 1972. And the photos of my mom has, like, the little curls and everything and like, the topper.

Everyone was like, o God, it's like my mom.

Patrick

:: 11:05

That was a 100 classic bridal look. She looked great. He looked great even. It's a tacky, dated tuxedo. But that was the look that was. That was the hot look. And they nailed that. They.

They're the perfect couple. They're a gorgeous couple together, and they're going to be a gorgeous couple in hell because he only has fiery eyes for her.

Tara

:: 11:21

My eyes only turn into sparklers for you, darling.

Kasey

:: 11:24

Right? How was he hiding that the whole time? You know.

Patrick

:: 11:29

As long as they're not serving apple strudel at the reception, I'll be fine. Because this is not the weather for apple strudel. That's another line that just sits there.

Shelley Winters has it because they're supposed to go see the Poolee Sisters for apple juice. Because you know what? I understand why you're upset. It's not the weather for apple strudel. It doesn't make any sense, but she makes it work.

And it's a weird gay. So I don't know. I don't know if he was here or not, but the screenwriter had to be gay if he worked at all these things. So much gay stuff in here.

He wrote the Sisters, for fuck's sake. He must have been this, that. It's not the way the apple strudel. I can hear May west say Saying that so he must be gay.

Kasey

:: 12:02

I also loved when Shelly Winters pronounced gazebo. That made me laugh both times I watched it.

Patrick

:: 12:09

I. I have to apologize. Shelly Winters, wherever you are. I'm sorry I said anything bad about you.

I mean, granted, I mean, those performances, I'm thinking where you are awful. You are awful. But you're wonderful here. You were wonderful here.

Tara

:: 12:20

When she loses.

Patrick

:: 12:23

She did that. She did that thing. She did the thing I talked about last time where she grabbed the girl. She grabbed Diane's face. Talk to her.

I said, that's a control. The active move. Don't do that. The one she did all the time during the shape service, grabbing girls faces. Don't do that. But she only did it once.

And it fit here.

Tara

:: 12:39

Yeah, it fit here because she was like trying to be all, like, motherly and everything. And then like the first time you hear her lose it, she doesn't know Diane's hearing her. Her and that. It's like, oh, right, yeah, yeah.

She's like, losing it on him and you will be punished. And then she just walks in, is like, oh, we're just having a disagreement.

Kasey

:: 13:04

And she smiles and laughs in the most awkward way repetitively, which I loved a whole lot.

Tara

:: 13:09

So.

Patrick

:: 13:09

Because, you know, it's Shelly. It's Shelly Winter. She can't be quiet. She can't be. If there's nothing quiet about. It's like Ethel Merman. Her voice resonates.

So if she's yelling, you're not going to not hear it. But you know what I just realized? You know what I just realized? There's a shot at the end during the wedding. What?

She realizes what's happened and she's. And oh. Oh, they're all. Everyone's a demon. And I've fallen for it. I've married a demon. Because the. The vows. She already took her vow. It's done.

It's done. You've done. And they cut to Jonathan, Fred. And he's crying. And I realized, oh, you know what?

Kasey

:: 13:44

What?

Patrick

:: 13:45

They even left it in the movie. If there's anyone here who knows any reason that these two should not be wed, let him speak now. If r. Hold your peace. He can't.

He can't do it because he's a mute. He's not deaf. Like, everybody thinks. Everybody makes a mistake. He's just a mute. I. It.

It's much smarter a movie than I thought it was the first time around. I think it's a treat.

Kasey

:: 14:03

It.

Patrick

:: 14:03

It. It's slow by modern standards, but if you're Patient with this sort of thing.

Tara

:: 14:08

The only time you really see Diane like, like get really, like, hey, like have power is after. Apparently the lawyer who she's come to see as a father figure has his accident. That he tells her on the phone.

And she runs to Lilith's house to confront her and the other Satanist. And she's like telling them off. One her hair is the biggest. It is in this whole movie when she's telling them off.

Patrick

:: 14:30

Rage does that. Justifiable rage will do that to a person. Her hair just gets.

Tara

:: 14:33

Comes in and Mr. Howard's there when she's coming. She's like, I know where they are. And she hands him her, like, scarf and purse and he makes sure she takes it when she leaves.

Patrick

:: 14:41

Just.

Tara

:: 14:43

It's just like so cute.

Patrick

:: 14:44

He's like, wait, no, you're right. Thank you for bringing that because that's. That scene is great.

Tara

:: 14:50

Cuz she's like, I am marrying him and you will leave him alone.

Kasey

:: 14:53

And they're not upset for some reason, they don't. They don't seem bothered. Oh, I said they were just not bothered. So she should have taken a warning from that.

Like the last time she said she was leaving, Shelly was like, you're leaving? And yelled and flipped out. Leaving?

Lilith

:: 15:06

What do you mean? You're leaving?

Satan

:: 15:08

Yes, I am.

Alice

:: 15:10

Why?

Diane

:: 15:11

Well, I just thought that.

Lilith

:: 15:12

Has anyone here said or done anything that offended you? No. Then what is it?

Diane

:: 15:18

I thought I'd like to be out of my own. I appreciate all.

Lilith

:: 15:21

Appreciate?

This is how you show your appreciation to me? By just walking out? Look, young lady, I made plans. You have obligations. You think we're just gonna let you.

Diane

:: 15:32

I said I was thankful for all you've done for me. I don't understand what you're getting so upset about.

Lilith

:: 15:37

Your mother would have wanted you to stay.

Diane

:: 15:40

My mother always insisted on her independence. Perhaps I take after her.

Kasey

:: 15:45

And then they were all like, okay, chill. Well, go ahead and go do your thing. We're nothing to see here. We're not doing anything.

Diane

:: 15:54

Hello, everyone. I'm sorry that my presence here came with such a shock, but don't worry, I don't plan to stay long.

I merely want to inform you that on Friday afternoon, I'm getting married.

Lilith

:: 16:14

Fine. Congratulations.

Doctor

:: 16:17

It is your life.

Diane

:: 16:21

What? Look, I know why you're all agreeing with me. I know what you've done. I know what you've been doing. I know what you did to Susan.

And I know about Judge Weatherby's accident this morning. And I know that you're Planning some evil against Steve? Another accident? Lilith.

Now, I know there's nothing the police can do or the law can do, but in your belief, there's something I can do.

And I promise you all that if you have so much regard for me as the Princess of Darkness, I swear on an oath that I'll crush anyone who interferes with my life or my marriage. Is that clear?

Lilith

:: 17:15

You do not understand it.

Diane

:: 17:16

Is that clear?

Doctor

:: 17:21

Perfectly clear.

Diane

:: 17:23

Good. I never want to set eyes on any of you again. I don't know how I could ever have been afraid of any of you. You're all so pathetic.

Patrick

:: 17:41

She didn't think the situation. She didn't observe the. The room. She didn't read the room. Because they're having. They're clearly having a celebration. There's.

There's people in the house that are not normally in the house. There's a lot of people in the house and they're having punch. You have punch at parties, toasting when you came in.

Because you know why they're toasty? Because you just signed your soul away to get that money. You didn't know you did it, but you did it. You wrote. You wrote your name in black.

Phillips little book. Your soul's gone now, honey. This is going through the first. The first take didn't work. This. But she goes. Listen, you'll all leave me alone.

I don't have the quote. Quote. I'll be playing the audio. Listen, y' all leave me alone. Because I'm the queen of hell and I will destroy every one of you. Like Attic girl.

You are, honey. You are. Actually. You are a whole lot of that. She might still. She might get her revenge at all of them. Who knows?

Tara

:: 18:28

The only other time she kind of has, like, any connection to it is when she.

Patrick

:: 18:34

Yeah.

Tara

:: 18:35

Almost accidentally forces a child to walk into traffic. Oh, yeah.

Kasey

:: 18:39

That scene made no sense.

Tara

:: 18:41

It didn't. It's. It's like. Was she annoyed he was bouncing a ball? Because the only other thing is that the two Satanist henchmen are watching her.

Susan

:: 19:13

What's wrong with you? What happened?

Diane

:: 19:16

I don't know. I'm sorry. I just don't know. I don't know. I think. Yeah. I don't know. I

Tara

:: 19:26

think. I think it's. When they're around, she starts to feel. Her true self and she's like them kids in the world that this kid.

Patrick

:: 19:34

This kid. What I think is weird about that scene is that Susan comes out and sees what's going on and she yells at Diane and not the kid.

To get out of this train. It. Damn. What are you doing? Not. Johnny, what are you doing? Get out of the street. She. It was weird. It was weird. It's a weird filler scene.

Tara

:: 19:50

It's again, like, there's some pacing and certain scenes where you're just like. It feels like almost either something was dropped in between to kind of bridge things.

And like, I'm wondering if we saw the nightmares, if that would have filled things in more. If originally those were actually written things we were going to see and then just. It didn't happen.

Patrick

:: 20:12

Right.

Kasey

:: 20:12

Because they always say, like, it was in your dream. You know, you knew about this. Diana was in your dream. We didn't ever see it, so maybe we didn't.

Patrick

:: 20:20

We didn't. But she did. No, but they didn't have the money.

Tara

:: 20:22

Yeah. So I'm just wondering if that was sort of a remnant.

Patrick

:: 20:26

We've seen this before.

I don't remember what movie it was, but, like, movies I've talked about here a lot of times, they'll tell you what happened rather than show you what happened because they can't afford to go to another location. They can't afford to. To do. Hire more extras. They can't afford to have the crew for another day because we're only got.

We only have eight days to shoot this. We don't have the time. We don't have the money. And the studio's breathing down our back. Nobody. This is only going to air once.

Everyone will forget about it. No one will be talking about it in 54 years.

Tara

:: 20:55

International.

Patrick

:: 20:59

Why would anyone be interested in this movie 55 years from now or whatever.

Tara

:: 21:02

But.

Patrick

:: 21:02

Yeah. So that's the Devil's Daughter. I think it's a hoot. I think it's. It was a nice surprise. I was expecting a stinker.

Kasey

:: 21:08

I love to like.

Tara

:: 21:11

It's way more fun than you think it's going to be.

Patrick

:: 21:14

Yeah. Yeah. Especially when it. Once I saw it was where it was going. Oh, it's. It's a Rosemary's Baby clone, but it has its own game.

And it's got sinister lesbian twin sisters who aren't sisters. I loved all of that.

Tara

:: 21:24

That immediately raises it like a point and a half.

Kasey

:: 21:26

Oh, absolutely.

Patrick

:: 21:27

Oh, yeah.

Kasey

:: 21:28

It's just so much fun. Like, the. The characters are, like, the actors in it are having fun. They're. You can feel them enjoying themselves.

It was funny and it creeped me out a few times and I don't know, I had a great time. Even on the second watch, I was like, yep, still Completely love this movie. And I just watched it twice in a weekend, you know.

Patrick

:: 21:46

Yeah, I'm right there with you. Right there with you. Okay. Oh, my gosh. Look at that. We have arrived back at our original destination. Thank you so much.

We have successfully landed on this plane that was never really flying in the first place. Good for us. Good for us. Co pilot Kasey. Goodbye for us. Go, Violet. Tara. Okay, okay, so just before we go, Kasey mentioned that you're a graphic artist.

Please tell people what you do and where they can find out more about it, where they can buy some of your stuff.

Kasey

:: 22:10

I do horror inspired art from female perspective. It's at Evil Goods design on Instagram.

I just take a lot of classic female characters and boil them down to like a very simple form and I sell them on Teepublic and so I will be creating some new ones very soon.

Patrick

:: 22:29

Yeah, Kasey was telling me earlier that she wants to do something with the Poole Sisters.

Kasey

:: 22:33

I'm doing the Poole sisters.

Patrick

:: 22:36

You are definitely doing it.

Kasey

:: 22:37

Yeah.

Patrick

:: 22:37

You weren't. You weren't sure before.

Kasey

:: 22:39

I have that done for when you post this episode. So sketch. I'm excited. It's definitely going to be with the cats. This is happening. So the blue has to be right. There's so many good outfits.

Good choice. Maybe there'll be a poll sister series.

Patrick

:: 22:56

Bing bong Captain Patrick from the future here letting you know that. Yes, yes. That print of the Poole sisters by Kasey Loman is now available in the Scream Tees merchandise store. It's a tea public store.

You can get it or anything else in the store on a T shirt or a mug or a sticker or a magnet or a print suitable for framing just about anything you think of. You can get it done at t public. The thing I love most about Kasey's work is her Femmes of Fright line, which this is a part of.

I have several of her other fems of fright that are my favorites available in the Scream teens shop.

So the link is down in the show notes, but if you want to check it out out Kasey's other work and all the other fems are fright because there are tons of fems of fright. I'll have the link down there to get you directly to Evil Goods design as well. So go buy something and support independent artists.

Do it now because it'll be awesome. Bing Bong. Bing bong. Back to the show. Okay. And tar Gar, where can people find out more about you and all this other ver geese you train? Oh, I'm sorry.

I'm not supposed to talk about that. Sorry.

Tara

:: 23:52

No, don't talk about murder.

Patrick

:: 23:54

Geese. Sorry.

Tara

:: 23:56

If you want to find me, I'm on Instagram ararabumdiea, and I'm gonna. I missed it. Yeah, it's spelled. I didn't do it last year, but I'm gonna be doing it this year again.

Where all through October, every day, I kind of talk about a spooky thing. Right now, I have planned three books, so I'm gonna be doing a lot of reading. Just two of them are novelizations.

One is the My Bloody Valentine novelization, and one is the Black Christmas novelization and a new novel that's out. That is. It's a YA thing, but it's still witchy. Is Verity Vaux and the Curse of Foxfire gonna be talking about that one?

Because it's about a witch going to Appalachia to break a curse. And it sounds interesting and sort of not too spooky, but something moderately spooky, so I'm trying to get a range.

Patrick

:: 24:50

Tara, you said it was a YA thing, and my brain didn't fill in. Young adults. I'm like, it's a YA thing. YA thing? Why? I'm like, is that cool? Is it a Hawaiian thing? Is that. It's like some native thing?

Is it like some. Some. Some religious thing? I'm not aware. Oh, the YA people, huh? Other YA people, yeah. South Indonesia, sure. I'm well aware.

Tara

:: 25:09

It's a young adult novel written by a gay man, and Verity Vox is a lesbian.

Patrick

:: 25:15

All right, then.

Tara

:: 25:16

So spooky and gray. Hey, I'm starting it off. Good.

Patrick

:: 25:23

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