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IL21: How China Manages Their FX Reserves ft. Zongyuan Zoe Liu
20th September 2023 • Top Traders Unplugged • Niels Kaastrup-Larsen
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In this episode we lift the veil on China’s often secretive system for managing its multi-trillion dollar holdings of foreign assets. Guiding us through the discussion is Dr. Zhongyuan Zoe Liu, the Maurice R. Greenberg fellow for China studies at the Council on Foreign Relations. Dr. Liu spent years researching financial reports and conducting in-person interviews with those involved in running China’s multiple “Sovereign Leveraged Funds”. We discuss how they evolved, what purposes they serve for the Communist party and why other countries may soon follow China’s lead. The interview is based on Dr. Liu’s new book: How The Communist Party of China Finances Its Global Ambitions.

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24:06 - Responding to unexpected regime shifts in the markets

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37:48 - The merits and drawbacks of mean variance analysis

58:51 - The durability of treasury bonds

01:05:18 - Lessons from research on high performance individuals and teams

01:07:58 - Achieving a state of ‘flow’

01:10:58 - Simplifying complex financial topics



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