Awakening Psychic Abilities with Lorraine Stone

In this episode of the Choosing Happy podcast, host Heather Masters interviews Lorraine Stone, a coach and teacher specializing in developing psychic abilities and connecting with spiritual guides.

Lorraine shares her 20 to 30-year journey in spiritual growth and discusses the importance of intuition, overcoming trauma, and finding joy in life.

The episode highlights her methods for teaching clients to connect with their spiritual teams and includes tips on meditation, setting intentions, and recognizing divine guidance.

Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction to the Choosing Happy Podcast

00:50 Meet Lorraine Stone: A Journey to Psychic Abilities

02:41 Triggers and Turning Points in Lorraine's Spiritual Path

04:51 Connecting with Your Spiritual Team

08:33 The Role of Trauma in Spiritual Awakening

12:17 Practical Steps to Connect with Your Guides

20:54 Healing, Coaching, and Spiritual Guidance

28:00 Safety and Dealing with Negative Energies

34:36 Guided Meditations and Personal Practices

40:18 Final Thoughts and Contact Information

About Lorraine:

Lorraine uses all her skills and intuition to provide you with an opportunity for growth. She can uncover hidden blocks and unconscious belief systems that can hold us back. She has spent many years on her own spiritual journey and growth, with a deep connection to the Divine and her guides. Lorraine is a Reiki Master and has over 10 years experience teaching Theta Healing, she is a Trance channel, a Qualified Nutritionist, has a Diploma in Hypnotherapy & Psychotherapy and trained in SRT (Spiritual Response Therapy). She is a Medium and has a unique way of working that centres around your pathway to Spirit.

Lorraine's Website

Lorraine's Socials:

@lorrainestone_09 on Instagram

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Hello, and welcome to this week's Choosing Happy podcast.

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I'm Heather Masters, and

we're still in Woo space.

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This week, we have a wonderful interview

with a good friend, Lorraine Stone,

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who is a coach and teacher who'll help

you open up to your psychic abilities.

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And she also teaches you how to

not just contact, but how to work

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with your own spiritual team.

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All this and more in this

week's Choosing Happy Podcast.

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Hello and welcome to the

Choosing Happy podcast.

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I'm your host Heather Masters and

today I have the greatest pleasure

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of chatting with Lorraine Stone.

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Now Lorraine is a coach and a

teacher who will help you open

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up to your psychic abilities and

connect with your spiritual team.

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Hello and welcome, Lorraine.

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Oh, hi, Heather.

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Thanks for having me.

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Oh, you're welcome.

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Can you begin by telling us a little

bit about yourself and your own journey

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to opening up to your psychic abilities

and connecting with your spiritual team?

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Um, well, it's been a long, long journey.

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a lot of years of learning

my, um, psychic abilities and

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getting in tune with my guides.

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So it's been a process of learning

through, um, various courses,

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various, I mean, using your own

intuition, connecting to yourself.

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Um, I started with Reiki healer

and then Theta and then many

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other courses along the way.

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Um, but really it's about connecting to

the, the true you from what's within you.

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Um, so your true source energy, your

true divine, um, universal God source

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energy, whatever you want to talk

about it, whichever words work for you.

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Um, but yeah, so it's been about,

I think, 20 to 30 years of, um,

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journey and through my spiritual, uh,

having my spiritual growth really.

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It never ends.

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It's a quest that I've always been on.

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Um, and eventually when you can ask at any

point to connect to your guardian angels,

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spirit guides, and they will always

make their known, their presence known.

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Even if at first you can't.

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um, connect to them.

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Uh, they'll always make sure they

find a way to let you feel it.

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You know, the more you're open to it, the

more, the calmer you are, the more they

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can show you that they're beside you.

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Does that make sense?

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Yeah, yeah.

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So, like, how did you start your journey?

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What was the trigger for you going into

this field, or opening to, you know?

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I think it, I've always known

there's more than just, you know,

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I always known that I'm a spiritual

being in a human existence.

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Um, so I've always known that and I

always had, uh, a yearning to learn more.

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The biggest trigger was when I was 25.

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Um, my mom passed.

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I dealt with my husband, had two

little kids, and I think I was

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always trying to find my mom.

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Really?

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. I think, you know, you go on

a journey, you lose somebody.

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You think, well, you

know, they're not gone.

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They're not, they're somewhere.

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The spirit doesn't die.

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We don't die.

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Our spiritual selves never die.

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So I think I started searching and

thinking, you know, they're there

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somewhere, just in a different veil, a

different space where we can't see them.

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So I think that was the biggest

trigger, you know, starting out on my

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journey with two little kids all by

myself and just having lost my mum.

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It was like, okay, I need to, I

need to, investigate this further.

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And then through numerous surgeries,

I became, um, I had back surgery,

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um, and more muscular at the back.

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So, and I had a reiki healing

and it's like a light bulb went

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off in the center of my mind.

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It was like I could see this beam

of light as she was doing this reiki

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healing, which was another big trigger.

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And she said, well, have you

still got this feeling that

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something's wakened in you?

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Come back in a year and I'll teach you.

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So I did all my 3, and it was just like,

it was just like pulling me, you know.

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And then I got invited to the, to, um,

introduction day and it was another

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pull, gotta do it, gotta do it.

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And then become a teacher,

gotta do it, gotta do it.

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10 years of teaching and then it's

like, well, you know, you develop your

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own things, you develop your own way of

working with your own divine connection.

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So getting to meet your teams, your

guides, it's all the one thing,

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some people you can identify with

each individual one or you can

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connect to them as a whole, they'll

all show up wherever you need.

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I've also done trans mentorship for a

year and it's all about the energy's

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all inside of you and you can connect

to your guides around you and they will

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show up how you need them to show up.

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But it's all connected to the one

consciousness as we know, so I think

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that's my biggest trigger and that was

sort of my basic journey, but there's

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a few a lot more courses on the way and

You know having to always work alongside

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my spiritual work but you never stop

growing and learning and becoming more

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and Being in a deep connection with

your own guides and your own truth.

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So last few years have been obviously very

And it does feel like there's a greater

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pull for people to connect and to, as

you say, remember who they are and really

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connect with that source within them.

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Um, have you found there are more

people coming to you for help or

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are you noticing anything different?

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I feel like there is, there is definitely

more people It's definitely been a pull

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towards, you know, what is this life

about or what are we doing here, you know.

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Um, it's definitely a pull for people

to having the questions now, like,

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well, there's more to life, you know.

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Some people think we're human to humans,

our minds rule us and our bodies are

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here and when they die, they die.

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You know, there is more sense

of questioning, even my great

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nieces and nephews and my

grandchildren are questioning me

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saying, what about past lives?

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What about, what about,

where was I before?

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You know, you get children actually

come in, so I think there's a younger

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generation that's got more thirst for

spiritual knowledge, even if it's not the

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older generation, um, because we're not

our mind, we're not our body, the things.

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We don't take anything with us,

but our soul and our experiences,

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that's what we pass over with.

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So I find there's a lot of younger

generations, you know, that are,

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phone me up and say, Oh, Auntie

Lowell, that's what they call me.

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Help me, my friend's got

negativity or an attachment or, um.

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So I've found it's a lot in the younger

generation, but equally there's a lot of

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mature people thinking that maybe there's

more to life because I think when you're

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in the rat race of life you grow up,

you have your kids or you have a career,

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whichever you choose, and you just get

wrapped up in the cycle of life, but then

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there's sometimes you sit back and think.

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You know, or trauma.

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Sometimes it's mainly a trauma that brings

you to a point of, there's got to be more.

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Why is this, or why is

this repeating pattern?

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Why have I done this already?

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And why do I keep churning

the same old stories out?

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Why do I keep repeating

the same old patterns?

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So I think that's when people are coming.

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And that's what I'm noticing is

when, when you finally get to that

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stage of either repeating patterns

or, you know, another trauma or,

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It's like, okay, they do come.

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So I think COVID brought a lot of, you

know, people at home a lot, weren't there?

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That caused a lot of stress for people.

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But it's when you step back

from the stress and you sort

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of think, it's them all.

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It's them all and just what we are.

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Yeah.

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It's interesting that

you mentioned trauma.

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Um, It's just something that I found

through talking with people that rather

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than, you know, we often think of trauma

as a really bad thing, but it does

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seem to be a method for awakening in

one way or another, whether it's, you

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know, Opening just to meaning in life

or your purpose in life or whether it's

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the whole spiritual journey as well.

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Trauma seems to be a real

big trigger for that.

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Um, but do you agree?

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Do you find that?

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Oh, totally agree.

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I think when spirit, you know, we

learn and you had this conversation the

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other day, it's even dreamt about it.

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It was like, I dreamt of this big

trauma I had and I was like, Oh no!

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What's going to happen and it's

like you learn quicker from trauma.

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It's like when I fought in my dream,

this is really a terrible experience that

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I've just had because of my fault and my

trauma was something I created myself.

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And if I look at the consequences of that,

but then I learned something from that

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dream, you know, but that was a dream.

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We don't all get traumas for our dreams.

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But if you think about any life

experiences you've had, the

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biggest change comes, the quickest

learning comes from trauma.

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Because it smacks you in the

face and it is so devastating

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or so hurtful or whatever.

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that it makes you stand up and look.

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You know, we, you know, we could ask

to have, and we could and we should

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all ask, which I did after my dream

was, you know, can I start learning

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through positive experiences please?

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Um, but we do learn quicker and if spirit

are trying to get your attention within

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your true self, your true spirit, the,

you know, the one who's manifested as

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you into the human, if they're trying

to get your attention to get you back

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on your spiritual path or connect

you back to your source energy, if

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they can't do it, In the kindest way,

they're going to do it in a drastic way.

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Because it's only drastic to us as a

human, it's not drastic to us as a spirit.

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Because everything, if you think

about the scenario of everything is

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happening for us, it's like, what is

it Why did our true self create that

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scenario for us to learn through?

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You know, and the only ability

we have to change any scenario

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is to take responsibility for it.

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So, yes, I think trauma

teaches us quicker.

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And sometimes we just don't listen

to the kindly, kindly, look, I'm

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spirit over here, come and say hello.

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Or I'm spirit in here

and you never notice.

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That spirit in your, in a, in

your heart center where spirit is?

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Um, I think trauma does, you know,

when you look back at trauma,

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you may have lost your job.

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You may have lost your home, but

then where did you end up after that?

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If you can reflect backwards at some

of your previous traumas, what, what

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was the gift of that trauma at the end?

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Yeah, it, it's like, um.

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Lessons, like, like you said earlier

about patterns, if we keep repeating

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the pattern at some point it's going to

be a trauma because we're not learning

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whatever the pattern's trying to teach us.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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And it's like, Oh, no,

I've done that already.

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Do you ever do that?

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You go, No, that one.

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Oh, I've just done this.

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Why am I doing it again?

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What didn't I learn?

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And it's like, Please tell me

what I didn't learn, you know?

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So how do you, um, connect in

with your spiritual team, um, in,

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in terms of your own experience?

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How, how have you, how did you begin

working with your spiritual team?

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And how do you, what's kind of

the process you go through with

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your clients to teach that?

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Um, well for me when I began doing

it I'd have a process of connecting

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to the divine source and asking for

that connection and then asking spirit

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guides to show up so I could sense them.

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So I'd always ask for a calling card so if

I ask for a sense that they're with me now

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they'll give me a warm or a touch on the

shoulder so you can get a sense of their,

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but as I've developed now I can just go to

my guides, you know, walk down the street

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with me, come Moment with me but more

the divine doesn't it's all connected.

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It's the same thing So it's like

opening up the connection to them

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and and when you do that even just by

setting the intention to have Opening

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your heart and allowing the divine or

the true self to flow out, you have a

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much better experience even shopping,

watching TV, doing your housework.

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You know, you can bring that into

every, every moment without any um,

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I'm sorry, without any um, issues at all.

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And um, But when I'm doing

it with my clients, again,

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I connect to my, um, guide.

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I ask, obviously, I do a scan of

the person with permission only,

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obviously, to see what blocks they

may have, and also to understand where

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the client is from their perspective.

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So, once I can understand the

client a bit more, um, then I can

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bring in the guides and ask them

to get a sense for themselves.

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So, I would ask the guides

to give a calling card, a

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signal to the, to my client.

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So they knew that they were connected

and I wouldn't, we'd keep going

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until there was at least a connection

to the, the connection is always

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there, but I would need my client

to feel it, if that makes sense.

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Yeah.

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So they're more aware of it.

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Yes.

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So I would connect to the divine.

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I would ask their true self, their

spirit guides to come forward, um,

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and to give that client a calling

card that they could recognize.

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It's a light.

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Feeling a warmth, maybe see

them in their third eye.

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Maybe just, um, a touch on the

shoulder, just anything that

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they could recognize with.

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So when working with guys, um, is there

kind of a, a frustration with, with them?

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spiritual team that sometimes

they can't get through?

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Or are you, um, I mean, I know

they're always there, but is there

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kind of rules around interaction

and how much they can do to, to

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support you when you're not aware?

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I think they're, I think the biggest

block is ourselves, where we don't ask.

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So if you ask the angels or guides

or true self to help with any

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situation, it's going to try and help.

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So, or they are going to help.

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Um, And I think the frustration

is us, not through them.

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They will, they will be

there on hand to help.

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They'll steer you in the right direction.

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They will do everything they can

to get you to do the right, to

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take the right course of action.

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There's no frustration on the

guide's side in my experience.

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My, my understanding is because you're

exactly where you're meant to be.

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You're perfect in the way you are

right now, um, and if you want to get

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somewhere or do something, they're

always supporting you for the highest

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best of your learning and your growth.

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Right.

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So providing that highest perspective

is always there, you know, it's

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only us that get frustrated.

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Ah, why are you not helping me or I

can't see you or I can't feel you.

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That's our frustration, not

the guide's frustration.

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Right.

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And the trick is to always

ask them to support.

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Remembering you might think you know

the answer is the best thing for you,

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but actually the actual answer might

not be what you expect because the

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guides have a higher perspective.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's something about

manifesting, isn't it?

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It's about being as detailed as

possible, but then letting go of any

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expectation because the universal source

might have something better for you.

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Yes, don't, don't get caught on

the outcome because, um, yes, it

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might be completely different.

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I remember a scenario when I was buying

a house and everything was getting in

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my way and I shouldn't have bought the

house but sheer determination and will to

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buy the house only to realize on the day

that I signed the contract is it wasn't

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the best move for me to have the house.

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I thought I needed to end the

relationship with the person that

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I, I'm like, oh, the university

tried to tell me, but through sheer

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determination and will, I thought, okay,

well, it's giving you enough chances.

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Let it go.

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But anyway, so yeah, if things are

flowing, I find you're in the flow of the

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universe, you're doing the right things.

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And if things start to go wrong,

maybe there's a better path.

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That's a, an, an interesting

concept because it's one that I

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know that I've struggled with.

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Sometimes I've believed that if things

are going wrong, could be the I just

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haven't found the right path through and,

you know, is this a challenge or a lesson

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from the universe that, you know, I should

still keep going, but there's a different

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way to do it, for instance, or is it just

give up and go do something different?

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And I find that one's quite challenging

and, um, how would you work with that?

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How do you?

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I think when I'm trying to push

something uphill, I think, and

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it's not going uphill, you know.

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I think I stop, I think the message has

always been, how do you find your joy?

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What it's, when you're doing things

that makes you joyous, it's the

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right course of action for you.

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Even if it's nicking and not even looking

at what you're trying to push uphill.

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So when things flow, it's

because you're in line with

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what your spiritual journey is.

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And if you really think you need to

push that thing up the hill, then

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I would sit and meditate on it.

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If it's really going badly, just not

have it again, not have an expectation

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of the answer, but just go quiet.

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Just go, okay, well I'll leave

it up to the divine or my guides

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until I'm inspired to take action.

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Nice.

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Because it's through inspiration that the

guides are talking through us and it's

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through joy that they're talking to us.

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It's through, so you're always

being answered where things joyous,

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we're only here to find our joy.

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You know, we all think we may have

a big mission, but you know, it's

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only from inspiration and joy.

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If it's inspirational and it's joyful,

it's definitely on the right path.

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Um, so it's go back to that.

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Just find your joy.

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Stop struggling with the struggle.

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That's what I would do.

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As I begin to go, okay, just walk

away from it, stop struggling

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with the struggle, find some joy,

maybe sit and be quiet, and wait

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to do it again when I'm inspired.

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Can you remember, well we all remember

times when we're really inspired, you

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know, I came back from Holland after

doing a teacher course, teacher training

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course, a spiritual healing and, you know.

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I've got to do the next course,

so I come back from Holland.

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I need to fly back by the next day

because my inspiration was I've

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got to do the children course.

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I have to.

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That's where we're working from.

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Actually, you've got to be there, right?

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So, um, so that's when you just let

go and wait till you're inspired.

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So just, just around the services that

you offer, um, you offer readings.

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Do you have a channel or, you know, how,

how do you work with one on one clients?

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Is it, as you say, you, you read their

energy and, and things, but how, is there

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a process that you particularly follow or?

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I tend to bring in the design, my

guide, um, I tend to, with permission,

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do the scan of the person to see,

I'm asking what do they need?

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I mean, basically, why did

they come in the first place?

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So, what goals do they

want me to get from it?

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And then.

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obviously through the guides, through

their true self, their spiritual self,

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what else is needed on the spiritual

sense, because we don't always know

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what we need on a spiritual sense.

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However, with muscle testing and pendulum

using to get the yeses and noes, it's

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building that understanding of where

they're at and where they want to get to.

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So I work very closely, well I work

constantly in the presence of the

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divine and the guides to give me the

wisdom, but also checking in with

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my client to see if it's relevant.

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And it, you know, I only, it's only

always relevant to the client, if it's

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not, then we wouldn't do anything, and

the client would always know, so it's

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a process of getting to understand,

obviously I've only given what I needed

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from guides, sometimes it's symbolism,

sometimes they never tell me the

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story, but it's a symbolic, you know.

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You know, you have a trauma in your, in

your heart, for example, you're carrying

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weight on your shoulders where a lot

of people carry their Burdens because

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I've never dealt with them and you saw

I can't have time to deal with that

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and they just carry on So it's about

It's about using whatever I'm given

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from the Divine, from my guides to,

from the client to work with and making

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sure that we're all on the same page.

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And I do trance, I do do trance

channeling, but I tend, if somebody

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wanted that, they could, but I tend to

work more in an interaction with the

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guides, with the client to make sure we're

getting to the, You know, the best thing

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we could do for anybody is get to be the

spiritual being in the human existence.

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Viewing it from the viewpoint of

the divine or from the guides.

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You know, being less attached or not

attached to the outcome of things and

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just living in this moment of joy.

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That's the joyous place of all.

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Would we be living in this harmony,

you know, and we always go back

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to, oh, I've got to do this, got to

do this, got to do this, you know,

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and are we really in the moment?

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And, um, so yes, so it's

always the intention.

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to bring them more spiritual

alongside whatever they want to do.

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But I couldn't influence anything unless

they wanted it because of their choice.

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Their choice is that I say, well,

would you really like to know what

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it feels like to live in the moment?

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And practice in, you know, I might do

it straight away, that'd be awesome.

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Um, but it would also be that

they would sign up to that.

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Yes, I would like to know what it

feels like to start being present and

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recognizing my guides and following

my guides and being in the moment.

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That makes sense.

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again.

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Yeah.

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Um, so do you bring things

like, like Theta into your work?

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Do you, do your work with healing

as well as, um, Is, is it kind of a

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coaching session, a one on one session?

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How, yeah, how do the sessions, yeah,

are they coaching, are they healing,

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are they whatever turns up, basically?

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It's probably a bit of all

of it, whatever turns up.

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Spirit normally show up and it is healing

from the past, past lives, past traumas,

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ancestral healing for your families.

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Um, it's also about, you know,

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Connection to the spirit, to the

true self, to the guides, definitely.

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So healing, if there's any

messages that need to be said,

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you know, messages will be said.

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But mainly it's about clearing

your pathway so you can

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see a very clear pathway.

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Uh, on your journey, um, and clearing

what you need to clear, you know, if

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it's uh, you've come because you're not

very clear communicating with your guide,

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so it'd be making sure that you find a

way of communicating with your guide.

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But equally, all around that, there'll

be lots of healing needed for that.

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There might have been a fear somewhere,

there might have been a past life trauma

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where you felt you were too powerful,

so you're scared of your powers in

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this lifetime, um, or you felt you

were harmed because of your healing

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or, or your connection to your guide.

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So, there's so many different

scenarios and stories that could

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stop you being completely free.

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free and open with your guides.

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And it's about uncovering those.

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So it's healing, guidance,

coaching, guides coming in.

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I mean, I don't do the healing.

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I engage the divine, the spirit,

the guides to do the healing.

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I'm just a very good conduit

to intuitively see what's there

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and hear my guides to what needs

clearing, to then work with the

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client to identify it and clear it.

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You also, um, run training courses.

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Yeah.

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How does the training course work?

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And there's two ways, ah, yeah,

there's a few ways, we could do a

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small group together, either, where

we, you know, have six or twelve

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people, or even less than that, you

know, it's um, how interactive you like

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it with other, with other students.

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And we go through, um, depending

where you're at in your spiritual

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path, about two, three days to,

two days would definitely get you

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connecting, doing the healings yourself.

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There's a third day if you

wanted a bit more in depth.

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Um, always, there's one to

one where I could teach you.

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Um, so there's lots of

methods and ways to learn.

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It's just whatever really

suits the individual.

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Right, so it's very bespoke, really.

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It is, yes, because I can teach a group

of 10 to 20 or I can teach a group of two.

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Um, obviously, uh, there's more

interaction when you get to 20 so you'd

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probably definitely need the free days.

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Because there's a lot more

interaction where if it's two to six,

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you'd probably do it in two days.

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So it's nice for little groups of people

that, you know, you've got a bunch of

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friends where you're growing spiritually.

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You think, oh, it'd be lovely just to have

a little bit more in depth connecting to

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our guides, clearing sessions, clearing

all the old trauma that we've carried in

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past life, and then that's a nice intimate

group that you can move forward quickly.

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It's a real boost to move you forward.

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Brilliant, brilliant.

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Um, just a question that I'm, I'm sure.

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People listening might

ask is, how safe is this?

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Do you, is there a possibility

of bringing in sort of negative

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entities or negative energy?

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No.

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I mean, I have had clients and great

nieces and nephews that come to see if

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they've brought in a negative energy.

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But if you're working with a divine energy

and your true spiritual energy, And you've

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got a gatekeeper, which is a spiritual

guide, and you've got all that protection.

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Nothing, nothing will flow into

that space, because it's too pure.

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It's like, you know, your

guides are protecting you.

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If you've got the spiritual

guides all around you, nothing

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bad is going to get into you.

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So it's making sure that, and it's one

of the things we do, is make sure that

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your guides are obviously proper guides.

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And if anybody does have an attachment

or negativity of some sort, then

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Or lost soul somewhere, we can ask

for that to go to the light so we

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can just pass over to the light.

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So it is very safe and because you're

working in a high energy with your own

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protection, your own guidance system.

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And if you do have any negative

attachments, just ask your own guides

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to come down and start clearing

it away and don't listen to it.

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Got it.

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That's powerful.

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And if you do know, sorry, if you do

know it's a negative spirit, your true

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spirit wouldn't tell you anything.

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That's not really from the highest

perspective, if you know what I mean.

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They would only give you

advice from a God sense.

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Right.

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Um, so sometimes, um, this, this is sort

of things that I've heard very recently.

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Um, if you have a negative, say a negative

attachment and it keeps you very much in

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a internal dialogue of, of negativity,

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um, How, what's the best way of, it's a

difficult one of knowing whether that's

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just your negative dialogue or whether it

is something that's kind of beyond that.

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I think there's two ways again.

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For one there is our mind, we're

not our minds, we're not our

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body, we're only pure spirit.

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So, we do have the monkeys in our mind

that keep going na na na na na na na

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na na na na and they're just monkeys.

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You've got to shut them up

and just tell them to shut up.

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However you want to tell them to shut up,

just ask them to be quiet and shut up.

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But it's also, if there is a spiritual

negative doubt in there, or one,

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you could find somebody like me to

ask it to be returned to the light.

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You could also get your own archangel,

your own true self, your own guardian

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angel, or even Archangel Michael

to ask for the clearing for it.

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And if it is, if it is this negative

thought, just don't listen to them.

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Because there is a difference between

how your true spiritual guide would

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speak to you and how a negative entity

would speak to you, or a negative

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thought train, or a negative pattern.

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Like, so whenever we get into a

negative pattern, it's just a pattern.

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Whenever we get into a negative

thought pattern, it's just a

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thought pattern, it's not a reality.

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The only reality is that we are true

spirit and we're, you know, we're

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experiencing in this human form

that we are inhabiting this body.

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That's the truth, but obviously we've

got a mind that we don't take, you know,

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it's just the machine doing its thing.

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We've probably learned coping

mechanisms with our brain.

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So it's about, yeah, just don't

listen and just ask it to be quiet.

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And then find something positive to

do to reinforce that, like even listen

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to the words of a meditation or listen

to a song verse or sing a song or

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do something that stops the chatter.

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So, you know, interrupt it.

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So how do you know that

you're talking to a guide?

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You said they've got a

very different voice.

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Well, I would always listen

to what they're telling you.

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So, If you put your hand on your heart and

I set the intention to open your heart and

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then you say I wish my spiritual guide,

my guardian angel, to come down, my true

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self, to answer this question for me.

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Just allow the question,

the answers to unfold.

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Don't expect, oh you've got to do

it that way because that's probably

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the negative sport train or the

negative entity or the negativity.

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Just allow.

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it to be answered in, in

a more loving kind of way.

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So you may not get the answer.

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In fact, it'd be good if you could, you

know, say, um, guides, help me with this.

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problem and just let go of the outcome

and then just go about your business.

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So you're not putting so much

expectation on an immediate answer

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and allow the answer to show up.

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Because you don't go with any

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of that attachment.

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Yes, because you're not, not, not,

we're not all in tune, especially for

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myself, I've been great for other people.

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When I ask my own question, I

want to get an answer, you know,

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that's not going to happen.

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Um, but equally, it's about, I'm

very, I'm very good at hearing

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the messages they want me to hear.

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But if I put, if I put a prayer in

motion and I've asked, um, my guides

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to help me with something, it's

definitely about just letting go of it.

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Trust that they've now got it in hand

and they're going to work it out.

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It's not an immediate answer, it

could be, it depends how in tune

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you are of hearing your guides.

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But then you'll go, is it my guides?

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Isn't my bad negative thought trains?

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Is it a negative end?

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You know what I mean?

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Once you get into that mind boggle.

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Yeah.

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Um, so it's just trust they

will find the answer to you.

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And meditations.

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You mentioned meditations.

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Uh, you have some guided

meditations, don't you?

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Do you do a lot of those yourself?

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Um, I do some.

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I need to, well, could do better,

as my school report used to say.

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I've got more to do.

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Um, but it's, you know, it's more

of a when you're in it with a,

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um, a client you can sort of then

do bespoke ones to that person.

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But there's so many on YouTube.

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But the meditation, it's one

way of just focusing on somebody

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else's voice as it's guided.

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to allow you to come

back to that stillness.

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I mean a really good one you can say

for yourself is, you know, especially

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if you've got a negative thought train

going on, you can say I'm not my mind,

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I'm not my body, I'm pure spirit.

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I'm not my mind, I'm not

my body, I'm pure spirit.

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And anything to do like a mantra or

bring you back to the now or bring

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you back to now is like I'm safe, I'm

warm, I'm comfortable, I have plenty of

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feelings, I have my home, whatever it is.

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And it just brings you back

to that sense of comfort.

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So when you do a meditation, there are

so many on YouTube, it's finding the

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right voice that works, the right burst

you need and, but it is a good thing

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to do to just calm yourself right down.

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Yeah.

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I mean the ones I've got

on my channel on water.

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you know, stop the mind shatter

and bring you back into the present

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moment and connect you actually.

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There's one for connecting you to your own

divine intelligence, your own guides, and

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they're three really good tools for you

to use just to come calm your mind down.

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And

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are those available on your website?

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They're on my YouTube channel, but

I will put a link on my website.

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Okay, brilliant.

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I've put all of those in the show

notes anyway, if anyone wants them.

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You were mentioning, is it more

difficult, do you find it more difficult

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to work with for yourself and get

messages for yourself than you do

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when you're working with other people.

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Is it, is it kind of more difficult

to detach if that makes sense?

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It definitely is more difficult

to detach, um, because you, it is.

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I think it's because obviously I know

myself and I connect to the divine, but

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I, as I've gone along I've got better

at just detach, send a prayer out

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there and I detach from the outcome.

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I trust that the divine my guide.

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Truth, self, everybody's got my

question and they're doing all their

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best to answer it in the best way.

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So it's definitely more difficult for

yourself, um, but for other people

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obviously I just get it so quickly,

the information just comes in because

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I, I have no attachment to it.

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So when you're attached to it you

could, you know, um, so that's

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why it's so much easier working

with other people than yourself.

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But equally the more confidence

you get in sending a prayer and

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don't try and answer it yourself.

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Then, you know, you know what it's

like, we ask Dear Divine or Dear

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Spirit Guide, help me find a new job.

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And then we go scrambling around all the

internet looking for a job, when actually

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the right job will present itself at

the right time through a, Oh, you're

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inspired to look one day or something

comes through the door or whatever.

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Yeah.

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And how do, sorry, there's various ways

of working with you, there's the courses

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and there's the one to one sessions.

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How long are the one to one

sessions or is there a course?

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A group of one.

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Nomi and Lance, how do you work with them?

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Yeah, Nomi's put about eight in the

diary, um, for a group of, um, a block

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of eight, which is a really nice number

to, and they're about an hour, an hour

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and a half each, so we've got plenty

of time to, you know, uncover where

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we're at, see where you're going,

what, what, what people really want.

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Um, and then I do them in the period is

whatever suits the client because some

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people have a busy schedule and they can,

they, when they take a long time to absorb

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all what's happened in a session because

you get so much in a session, it's like,

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well, you know, it's like, how do I, I

just want to let all that settle in, you

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know, the changes are taking place, the

healing's been done, et cetera, et cetera.

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So some people have once a

week, some people have once a

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fortnight, some people have.

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Every few days if I want

to really, I want to get.

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I want to be here.

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I'm over here and I want to get over here.

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I want to get really, you know, a big

jump in my spiritual growth and then

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I want to practice all those tools.

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Because it is about practicing all

those tools that every time we get

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out of the moment we use that mantra

to bring us back to the moment.

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You know, I'm safe, I'm

warm, I'm comfortable.

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And it's all about remembering

like your brain's going on and on.

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You're not your mind, you're not

your body, you're pure spirit

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coming back to know that actually

I'm just spirit, you know.

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It's my pain in my leg, I'm not my leg.

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So, those tools, it's good, you know, so

they need to practice some tools, so it's

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really dependent on the client's, uh,

schedules and how much absorption time

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they like and practice time they need.

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It's never ending, isn't it?

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Getting to our spiritual destination.

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True.

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And, um, how do people book with you?

631

Is that just through your website or?

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Yeah, an email from my website or call me

on my phone number that's on my website.

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Um, any way like that or recommendation

for a friend and reach out to me

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through WhatsApp or text message.

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Brilliant, brilliant.

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And if, if you had one piece of

advice for someone really wanting

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to connect and maybe for the first

time and maybe they're a little bit

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fearful, um, what would that advice be?

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Help me set the intention

to open your heart.

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And ask your spirit guide to come in and

guide you to the right person you need

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to help you on your spiritual growth.

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And then if you get inspiration to

work with somebody, then you go for it.

643

Brilliant.

644

And is there anything else that

you would like to, to share today?

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Just that, do that anyway.

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Just open your heart, set the

intention to bring in your guide and

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say, help me on my spiritual journey.

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To help support you,

just open up to spirit.

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Spirit is there.

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We're a spiritual being in a

human existence, not a human

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being in a human existence.

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And the more we come home to spirit,

it's exactly where we need to be.

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Just back to spirit.

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Having this life the best way possible,

as in, enjoy, because we are coming

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back to who we truly are, what we

came before in the first place, having

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a joyous spiritual being, being a

spiritual being in a human existence,

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having fun, so start connecting.

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And that, um, that mention of joy, I,

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on my spiritual journey, I've, I've, I've,

I've I hear it because it's everywhere.

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You know, it's um, if you listen to Esther

Hicks, it's about coming back to joy.

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And what I found was that I'd heard it so

often, I wasn't really taking it on board.

662

It's only recently that I've truly got

what that means in terms of, um, that's

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kind of the frequency that you're where

everything, where you're attracting and

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manifesting and you're in alignment.

665

And I, I know it's said, but I

don't think it's ever really said as

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clearly as, as the fact that that's

really the frequency with where,

667

where magic happens, if you like.

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Yeah.

669

It's a beautiful frequency to be in.

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If you can get in that moment.

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Know your connectives, set the

intentions, open your heart, bring

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in the spiritual energy through you,

because it is you, then joy can really

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happen and the magic does happen.

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Royal.

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Because being a logical person myself,

I do tend to push more than, even though

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I do use intuition, once I've got the

intuition then I tend to push, so it's

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that, really recognizing that actually

if you, if you step back and enjoy

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it, that it makes a big difference.

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I mean, that's one of the

reasons I, I kind of do it.

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I chose the Choosing Happy podcast

because that was my biggest learning,

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that we choose how we feel in the

moment and if we can choose to be

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joyful irrespective of what's happening

and sometimes it's difficult, but

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that's where the magic happens.

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It is.

685

Exactly.

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Perfect.

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It's exactly choosing that happiness.

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Nobody has the right to change

how we feel about ourselves.

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As we zoom out and think we're little

spiritual beings on our little spiritual

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journey and when we go home we're going to

look at our lives and go well we had some

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ups and downs but we were always joyous.

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You know, we know we haven't been.

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We know we've been at the struggles

of our lives when we had the kids

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and there were jobs and the trauma.

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But when we can really zoom out

and just go back to that happiness,

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that joy, and actually, wow,

we're spirit in a human existence.

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What a fun place, right?

698

Yeah.

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Yeah, and if you're logical,

you're not your brain.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Which dog do I feed, as they say?

702

Yes, exactly.

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Well, thank you so much.

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This has been absolutely amazing.

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It's been really insightful.

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So, thank you for taking

the time today and sharing.

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Thank you.

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And lovely, lovely connecting you again.

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And, uh, I'm sure we'll switch again soon.

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Thanks.

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Bye for now.

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Bye.

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