Nature, Surrender, and the Medicine We Forgot We Had with Jared Pickard

What if the medicine we’re searching for isn’t found in a pill… but in nature, rhythm, and surrender?

In this powerful episode of Beyond The Pills, Josh Rimany sits down with Jared Pickard, co-founder of Be Here Farm & Nature, biodynamic farmer, wellness visionary, and creator of the Being Human self-mastery program. Together, they explore what it truly means to heal—body, mind, and spirit—by reconnecting with the natural rhythms of life.

Jared shares his extraordinary personal journey: from working on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange to walking away from Wall Street, immersing himself in biodynamic farming, and ultimately losing everything he had built in the devastating California wildfires of 2020. What emerged from the ashes wasn’t just loss—but clarity, purpose, and a completely unexpected calling.

Out of that fire was born Be Here Farm & Nature, a biodynamic skincare and wellness brand rooted in reverence for the land, seasonal rhythms, and energetic integrity. Jared recounts the surreal moment of evacuating with nothing but his family—and a single set of botanical oils that would later become the brand’s flagship product, the Summer Solstice Serum.

But this conversation goes far beyond skincare.

Josh and Jared dive deep into:

1. Why nature and connection may be the most powerful medicine of our time
2. How surrender—not force—often unlocks the next chapter of healing and purpose
3. The role of biorhythms, seasons, and coherence in physical and emotional health
4. Why modern life has pulled us out of alignment—and how to gently return
5. Rudolf Steiner’s teachings and the foundation of the Being Human program
6. Why clarity often comes after we stop trying to figure everything out

This episode is an invitation to slow down, listen more deeply, and remember what it means to be human in a world that has forgotten its rhythm.

If you’ve ever felt burned out, disconnected, or unsure why “doing all the right things” still isn’t working—this conversation may change the way you understand healing.

“Everyone has fires in their life. They’re just not always literal.”

“You can’t heal what you’re disconnected from.”

“Sometimes the most powerful choice is surrender.”

About the Guest

Jared Pickard is the co-founder of Be Here Farm & Nature, a biodynamic farm and experiential wellness brand based in Wimberley, Texas. He is also the co-creator of Being Human, a 12-week online self-mastery program inspired by the teachings of Rudolf Steiner, designed to help people cultivate clarity, presence, and purpose in a noisy world.

Resources & Links

🌿 Learn more about Be Here Farm & Nature: https://beherefarm.com

🌿 Explore the Being Human program: https://beherefarm.com/events

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Join me and other practitioners as we guide you towards vibrant health, body, mind, and spirit, and move beyond symptom management into true healing. Welcome back to Beyond the Pills, where we explore the intersection of ancient wisdom and modern science to uncover what true healing really means. Body, mind, and spirit.

Located in Wimberley, Texas at Be Here Farm, they grow and handcraft the collection of ar Denal skincare products in a truly unique way, one rooted in biodynamic principles, reverence for the land and the rhythms of nature beyond the farm. They create and curate luxury, wellness and nature immersions around the world, inviting people to slow down, reconnect, and remember what it means to be human.

Welcome to the show, Jared. Thank you so much. So happy to be here, man. Um, I love our connection calls prior to podcast because we instantly connected because you what? When people say the same things you've been saying, it's like, yes, let's talk and go deep dive on that more because I want other people's perspective.

So take us back about like this path to the farm. What was the, your path that led you and your wife to create? What, what is going on today? We had an awesome conversation about it. I just want you to bring this out to the awareness of people.

Jarad: Yeah, I'm just choosing where to start. 'cause it feels very circular at this point.

And it's Dr. Gu, Dr. Diet, Dr. Quiet, Dr. Movement, and Dr. Happy. And those are the four categories through which, you know, one. Breaks down really their entire life, um, especially in particular as it relates to health, but it becomes your entire life because sort of the main, um, motor of this system is what he calls the dream line.

Raised with, um, fitness and health in mind. My mom was a personal trainer, but the information of the nineties was a little bit backwards from what people consider healthy today. So I was eating like reduced fat, highly processed foods like margarine and egg beaters and snack wells, cookies, where it all came from, right?

I learn about meditation, like I dive into the, the check practices. And so all these things happen at the same time. And basically New York City spit me right out, uh, to this farming apprenticeship. I quit my job on the floor of the stock exchange. Um, I took on a biodynamic farming apprenticeship. In rural Georgia.

Uh, and I was outside of Athens where there's a large university, so there was a population of people there, university of Georgia. But, uh, I was living out in the rural area 15 minutes away, uh, next to this, uh, hog and cattle farm, where I learned how to raise those animals on rotational grazing pastures.

And we consider our property a homestead. It's not like a commercial open to the public production farm. We grow in the garden. Ingredients for our collection of products, which we could talk more about later, and just for our own personal lifestyle. Um, and so this all sort of ties together in a way, which is that we, we, we became inspired to share this dream that we were sort of budding within our shells, which was to live more deeply in connection with nature.

That was really the essence of all, all of these things tied together to, to me, for me to realize that I was living in New York City, that I had never been on a farm. I had rarely spent any time in nature in, for most of my life. My, my outdoor time in my youth was spent in like rec sports, playing lacrosse, football, soccer.

So when all of these different compounding things came together, we developed this concept which we called be Here Farm in Nature. And its original intention was actually to be a hospitality destination. So along with the support of family members, we moved out to California. This journey is taking us now from New York to Georgia.

And this was all, all of these different changes going to Georgia, going to Tennessee. They were all leading up to sort of what we thought would be the ultimate change, which was we purchased land out in Sonoma, California, and we were intending to develop what if you had to just give it one word, you'd call it a hotel, but we never really called it that.

Um, and in as brief as I possibly can describe it, it was a 300 acre. What we called a nature sanctuary. It was this land that was not really desirable to the other people in the area because the area is world famous for wineries and this land was super steep and densely forested, and so it was sort of like almost a marginal piece of land.

I'm blowing through literally 12 years of my life right now to get, to get to the point where, well,

Josh: you're doing great. 'cause we only, we only started nine minutes ago, so you're doing beautifully.

But certainly our mountain. The fire maps are pretty stark. Like, like, um, 'cause we shared it on Instagram at one point, so I saw it not that long ago. I scrolled all the way back. But the fire map is this huge blob. Thousands and thousands and thousands of acres. Our property could not be any more in the center of it.

And so, but many of them burned down and our entire property burned down. And, and a lot of our stuff burned down, although, uh, not the home we were living in, thankfully. But it was just a, it was like a war zone. We, we actually never really went back. My daughter was five at that time. We spent a period of time thinking that we were sort of gonna restore that property and develop different business concepts other than the hotel.

'cause overnight the hotel is no longer possible. You can't bring people out to a hotel that's based on a nature sanctuary, when for the next 11 to 20 years, it's gonna look like a huge fire just came through. Right. You know, everything changed overnight. Not to mention that the structures we were about to build were really no longer insurable.

There's, there's literally fire, uh, you know, all around pretty intense, uh, scene, uh, first responders by, by the dozens, you know, like 50, 75 different first responders flying up the mountain as we're trying to get off the mountain. Um, and just visible fire in, in many directions, sometimes getting to roadblocks where it looked like there was a several hundred foot wall of fire before you sort of realize that it's, it's just actually this whole ridge line's on fire.

Like from the time we started, like when we started the hotel, we were like, this should take about three years. And then, you know, every day for the next nine years, we always still felt like we were about three years away from opening. Um, and so at this point we knew that the road was long. And so instead of just producing all this food on the farm and doing nothing with it, we started going downtown to sell the food at the local farmer's market and kind of introduce ourselves to the local, like, Hey, we're be here, farm in nature, we exist, we're developing a hotel up in the mountain.

We developed as a 24 week program, so we developed once a week for 24 weeks, a new product. Of some kind. They weren't all skincare products, which is what we make today, but they were maybe like a fermented hot sauce and maybe one was like dried dehydrated fruits. And then maybe one was a skincare product and maybe one was like a, a, a mist for your house, maybe one was incense or on and on and on.

So for 24 weeks they got this produce and some product that we made. And so as we evacuate through that serendipitous circus of events that, uh, you know, I'm not gonna diverge onto, we leave with the oils for one of those products, which is called the Summer Solstice Serum, and it remains our flagship signature product today.

Everything else burnt down, all of our other ingredients, everything on the, the, the far, the farm workshop where we made these products and prepared the, the, the, the things that we use in the garden as well. 'cause in biodynamic farming you don't use store-bought fertilizers and pesticides and these sorts of things.

For the first time ever becoming a skincare company about two weeks after the fires. So that was a tremendous life pivot where within that two week period, we realized no longer were we working on the thing that we just spent a third of our lives working on, but that we were now a skincare company and that we had no home to go back to.

And so, and we had a five-year-old who was with us. And so that was about a two year process of bouncing around the country to friends and family and Airbnbs, and honestly doing almost like a vacation tour, trying to make life fun for the five-year-old. Like we, we were already homeschooling at this point.

They call it the Hill country. And it is my answer to how I got here,

But like, you had this mission, you knew what you wanted to do, this why, and what was so clear and you worked your, and it was like, I left my job on Wall Street in Brooklyn. I did this, I did this. It led me to this. I, I had, my thought was this. But then full circle, serendipitous nature comes in and says, we hear you.

Which in my mind is when you know it's real. 'cause like the universe, God, universe, spirit, whatever you wanna call it, allowed you to kind of guide you in this path towards, well you thought you were gonna do biodynamic farming and hotel, um, you know, experiences. I have a ton of friends that have gone to Blackberry Farms 'cause I'm in the entrepreneur group in Charlotte and they always go there.

But I, I just love that story for you. Like, talk to us a little bit about like, like for a lot of people, this is a really great example. This is why I love these shows because. Life took you in a direction you had no idea, but you sort of leaned in. That's what I heard. Like you leaned into what, what was actually Yeah, half.

I know it's not that easy, right? No, no, no. Uh, it, it is, I guarantee you there was a ton of moments in your life where you're like, what in the hell is going on? Right?

Jarad: I mean, why, why, why? I'm kind of like rolling my eyes is because I'm just remembering myself. And this is what in Steiner's teaching, you know, you might call a fire trial quite literally.

And so we did what's called, you know, fire safety work and forest restoration work, uh, on a, on a 100 acre area surrounding this development. So that was a 10 year effort that actually led to us receiving what's called the Watershed Visionary Award from a local conservation group. So it was a tremendous effort, uh, to prepare for these inevitable fires.

And like, I know what to do. Right? It's like you got, look, it's exactly what you said. Like you gotta, you gotta accept what is. But when sometimes you don't have a choice and I didn't have a choice. Um, so yes, uh, I chose not to kill myself basically. That was the, that was a choice I could have had. But I, because if you were watching me from the outside, you would've understood it if you, if you, if if I just like threw myself into those fires.

'cause it was everything that we, well,

Josh: the whole like literal, the, the literal component of this is why I love the conversation. 'cause it's like, yeah, fires happen in everyone's life. Like the shit hits the fan, everything burns down and you get to that dark night and there is a choice. That choice is to surrender to what is or put up friction.

Yeah. Yeah. Because that's, there's no way in hell you could write this with the conscious belief of, this is why I know it works, and this is why I know you're on your path or my path or whatever is because you ca I always just say this like I have a synchronicity book, but I tell my friends all the time about my life story and the path that it's created for me and with me is like.

You know, the whole, the whole like analytical way of doing it was like, no, this is what nature told me I needed to do in the way that I needed to do it. Because now it has meaning to it. You are so attached to the reason of why you're doing it now. So I wanna talk to people a little bit. Well, 'cause that is it.

So it's nature's medicine, right?

Skincare product was, was not even 1% of, of that project. And, and now skincare is almost a hundred percent of my project. So it's quite the, quite the, the shift, it's the oh, the fluidity that I do give myself credit for. For, um, the fluidity within which I, you know, flowed to the, the best possible solution like water, you know, which was sort of my response to the fire there.

And I have my two dogs in the car. I got my wife and my daughter driving in the car in front of. And it's like dead silent. 'cause I'm in this big RV and all I hear is these serums bombing, click, click, cl cl, click cl, cl. And it was like angelic. I was, I felt like I was on drugs, so I was like high. I was like floating off this mountain and the first responders were going in the other direction and I was like, I almost screamed out the window, like, go get 'em boys.

I just knew it. I knew it all. Then in the real time, in the moment, in real time, I don't know how else to say it. And then only afterwards. I then start intellectualizing it a little bit and sort of fall into periods of like confusion and depression and regret and all sorts of different things about, well, why did I do it like this?

Or can't believe, how are we gonna save the pro? Well, what if we develop this kind of business? What if we do this? You know, it'll only cost that much money for this insurance for that, and special emergency permits from FEMA for this. And I did that for, for a period of time. It wasn't like instantaneously the next day.

I was like, and now we're a skincare company. Even though part of me was like that. Because like I said, I did the next day go bottle 400 units for the first time ever of this serum and drive down the coast and deliver 'em to Sun potion and launch 'em to the public. That did happen, but in my head, I was still thinking about the hotel and the insurance and the, the FEMA and all this stuff.

How am I gonna really put this value and time to work in a productive way in my life? And I was feeling very cloudy about it. The only way I could say if I had to put a picture to it, it would be cloudy. And, and I called my brother, he's a very talented coach and therapist and, and, um, shared that with him.

It was over. I was, everything lit up for me. The next day, I got my first consulting gig, like 10 hours later, a a multi-month friendship that turned in a consulting gig that's turned into a multi-year, very important friendship, and all the doors started opening, everything became easy. I was completely onto this next chapter of my life.

The actual surrender of leaning into that cloudiness. That was like a one day process. So I love,

Josh: there's so much wisdom in that, and I think it's how beautiful though, but like how beautiful of a opportunity for you and, and in doing that, leaning into the cloudiness, not the what if, why did I do this? Why did this?

And what you said was really meaningful for me and for what I feel like the listeners too is, you know, getting out of here and into here. Right? I mean, out of like from the analytical and connecting it into a coherent fashion of the knowing. It's almost like you were being drawn, like that moment, that angelic moment in the, the, the rv.

And they always say, those I've studied is like, it's more real than real. And everything felt like it was gonna be just fine. Like those, those moments in life where you just know there's no thinking about it, it's just a knowing that you can't explain. It's kind of like a synchronicity. You can't explain it with a logical brain, but it happened, right?

So this whole journey is like beautiful. And then you, you took that lean in and said, lean into the cloudy, don't solve it. Just lean in, sit with it, and then boom, what happened? Awareness. And then it was super clear. So I, that's a beautiful lesson for people to move into their own space because that is in my mind how.

Jarad: Or

Josh: you see it. I

Jarad: mean the, the, there's such a common thread between all of them, which is that

Josh: 20% we're

Jarad: gonna go full

Josh: circle on it.

Jarad: Yeah. I mean, so I could speak to all of them almost at the same time, which is that there, there's, there's, you can't put on my skincare products and then go sit on the couch and eat Doritos and expect them to work. So all of these things are meant to sort of add up to a holistic lifestyle and. Holistic lifestyle certainly involves a lot of connection to nature's rhythms.

In fact, a hundred percent of past respondents to our final surveys have reported that it's increased their connection with nature, that it's deepened their sense of spirituality, that it's increased their joy for life and a variety of other things, unanimous, a hundred percent of respondents. Um, and so we, we basically unpack this in this, uh, and I'll dive into this program for a minute.

And so too long to go into any one of them in, in the lens that Steiner applies to it. But these six, uh, topics or levels or practices are what we base that program off of. And we spend two weeks on each one. We meet every Thursday and every other Sunday. And we, uh, meet with 12 different visiting guest speakers who honestly have nothing to do with the, the core of the curriculum itself, but they're exemplars of mastery.

So they're coming from a totally wide range of fields, and some of them are, you know, internationally known, um, speakers and teachers like Asha Naya, Swami Gabby Reese, Joel Salton, Del Bigtree, um, and a variety of others. There's 12 each year, and all of that information is on our website and people should check it out.

Yeah. And so I'm not the first person you'd, you know, imagine to run a digital community, I would say, and yet it's become one of the, the, the most important things in my life. It's become such a gift and a blessing because Steiner's work has such a depth and when you can unpack it, warmth, although people don't get that at first because it was written a hundred years ago and is, uh, usually spoken in German and then translated into English a hundred years ago, you know what I mean?

He is liquid clear on the entire body of work. He lives it, he breathes it. And you could ask him questions in a regular conversational language and we could have a discussion about it. And so ultimately, Steiner's work is very warm and really brings you into your heart. That's ultimately so much of what it's about.

And so this episode will come out sometime soon after, but that's when we're recording it. And this is a. Cr, unbelievably important moment in the calendar year for obviously so many people around the world, but specifically in Steiner's Worldview, which is the underlying worldview of Waldorf education and biodynamic farming.

Um, both of which are sort of like the fruits of those works speak for themselves. If anyone's ever encountered a child who's been raised in a really thoughtful Waldorf environment or ever eaten a peach or an apple from a biodynamic farm, they know that those systems are really, really incredible gifts to the world.

And we call this spring and summer when the earth reaches. Its what in to use Steiner's vocabulary. It would be it's etheric and astro body. We have our physical body, but in Steiner's view we have our theoric body, which is what brings life to it. And we have our astro body, which is what brings like soul and feelings to it.

We call that fall on autumn. All the leaves fall. Seeds fall. The flowers fall. But the earth is not dead. It's alive. This is actually when it's most alive. So in the winter it looks dormant, but the earth has actually withdrawn all of its energy into itself. So it's extremely active. It's digesting. It's revitalizing the energy that it then puts into the seeds and the roots of the plants, which bloom again next year.

Even the, the frenzy of the holiday season itself underneath it, there's a spiritual reality to this time of year, which I was just describing, and, um, about the, the, the light and the, the darkness and our inner light and our inner warmth, cultivating that and allowing it to bloom. 'cause we are the earth, you know, we're of the earth.

So this process is happening not just in an imaginary sense around us. It's happened. We, we are that too. That is happening to us too. So right now is the most inner time of year, which is why coming into February, which is why we don't start the program now, this is this time to go inward and reconnect with your inner light.

Josh: love that. And yeah, the, the part is the whole, I think the, a lot of the conversations we have here is like.

Ancient wisdom and modern science together, like what you described is got lots of science you could go down the road with, and you can also go down the spiritual component of it. It's not, or it's, and it's happening to the world in an, in an, in a energetic way, but also in this etheric way where, so you, you eloquently described that and you know, it's that whole adage of as without so within.

What is your feeling on like, what's happening now versus, you know, 5,000 years ago and how do you feel that like this program, this 'cause, this program that you bring people down, co-create together? I think why it's a, why it's attracted me. Why you, you and I connected, like, I feel like now in human civilization, if you will, we're moving through this new era.

I feel like now is when these programs are so much more important for us.

You should always pick a fruit when it's ripe. And so, yeah, I agree with you. Um, I can see the ripeness of the situation. People are ready for the information and eager for this type of living. Um, and like there's some people in our program who have grown up in a Waldorf environment, and so they're. Their lifestyle has been of this sort of what we would call festivals, like this celebratory nature of the changing seasons.

And so these, these rhythms are celebrated in the Waldorf schedule, just like people celebrate Christmas and Easter. There's, uh, festivals throughout the entire year that celebrate these things, and that is like. Um, one way, there's probably others, but that is like, it sews you together with that rhythm, that natural flow of the seasonal changes.

Like when I lived in New York City, for example, I was very aware that I had to work a million times harder. To try to find my center in any of these categories, whether it was diet, quiet movement, or happiness. You know, I had to really, really schedule a lot of time for those things. But when I lived out in the woods, I felt quite naturally quite balanced and there's a lot less resistance to have to overcome.

Yeah.

Josh: Um, oh my gosh, there's so much in this. Just connecting to what that I've been experiencing as well. One is I am so in tune with bio rhythms right now. The programming that's coming up for our, our membership that we're launching for the Beyond the Pills community is all rooted around rhythm, like restoring rhythm back into, and I love how you're connecting that towards the natural rhythm of the world because that is the rhythm.

Like the rhythm isn't, oh, the world has its rhythm and we have its rhythm. It's like, no, it's connected. And how you have to work to move through those challenges a little bit harder, if you will, because you're in an, an environment that doesn't allow you to be in nature. Like when I was doing my Peru and Costa Rica journey a year and a half ago, I was more connected in every aspect of my life.

All these things are coming from what you, what we're talking about today, which is getting back into bio rhythms, that, that are in nature, um, and that are connected. So this connectedness, this rhythmic approach, I'm doing it with men's health and testosterone and uh, I just talked about some of this, literally this morning.

Someone's talking about melatonin and I'm talking about the rhythm of why you need it in a certain way and how we can match that to help you and how she can do it on her own so she doesn't have to do it with a bottle. So I love how this is a full circle conversation. I also believe and think the same as you.

And I think, so I'm super excited to be able to help in this way and give more awareness to this Be Human project and, and this programming, because I agree. I think we're, I think there's more people now than ever that are ripe, as you say, to receiving this information in the right way. So thank you for that.

And you're talking about this heart, uh, centered thinking. And of course there's a spectrum, and of course there's a pendulum. Uh, things shift over time and, you know, always will sort of swing in a different direction. But once upon a time we were completely dialed in with nature. We, to the, to the degree that we had no way of course, of thinking ourselves out of that connection.

We were almost in a hallucinatory, uh, visionary state where we literally saw angelic and God-like beings when we looked at the stars and the mountains, and we knew that everything was divine. So much so that we never thought about it. But by the time, you know. Greek Roman Jesus time. We are a very powerful intellectual people.

So now we're making sculptures and paintings of the gods instead of seeing them in the trees. And this is like, uh, a little bit, sort of like the biblical fall as well, because what we've done is we've separated from our divinity. We used to be completely united with divinity, but it was what Steiner and others would call as a gift.

By the time we're these intellectual powerhouses, we have almost no connection to our divinity. We're now focusing on the scientific revolution, the industrial revolution, the technological revolution, the internet. We're now completely focused on all of these super hyper productive, um, concentrated, condensed, contracted types of thinking, logical, analytical, cutting, dissecting, um, that we are like at the bottom of that swing.

So we went from one end to the other. Yeah. And the work that Steiner's trying to bring forward, the phrase that he uses that's so beautiful is. In today's age, and, and now in today's age, our opportunity is to turn the laboratory into an altar. And so he doesn't talk about spirituality or science, he talks about spiritual science.

And so the unification of these two ways of being, the, the great thing now is that the, the incredible opportunity that we have is to freely and consciously choose to live a spiritual life in harmony with nature, God, divinity, however you define it. So in the past we've received it as a gift. Then we had complete freedom and developed our intellect.

And now with that intellect, we can consciously choose to work back towards a, a more harmonized sort of place. And that, that's the, that's one of the essences of what we teach in this program. I love it. Um,

It's like, it's not science or spirituality. And I love how you put the two together. So simply, it's spiritual science, right? It's both and at the same time. And it's, it's not like we're awakening back to where we were connected from before, which you so eloquently put. There was, it was a gift. Now it's a conscious choice to r remember.

Where we came from and honor where we are. And the way to do that is to align and merge them as one. And that, that is the essence of where I think, where I know I'm going and where I think humanity is going is we have this conscious choice point now to move back to the age of knowing, but not forgetting all the science.

It's beyond where we are today. It doesn't mean that it, it's wrong. It means that we we're moving towards a place that's more whole. Right. And that's, that's the essence of this whole process.

Jarad: Also in so many ways, you know, non-intellectual, non-analytical, logical ways, they were way beyond us. Um, and so there's, and there's all sorts of things from ancient times that were way beyond us.

Oh yeah. You just have, that's why I love that walk around Rome and you're like, what in the heck?

We knew this was already coming. Like, like imagine Ian, that's why they're imparting this wisdom. They're imparting this wisdom into the Western culture. Again, to use your phrase, because they already know. 'cause it's already happened. In their eyes, they're dreaming it into existence. 'cause they've seen, they're Sears, but they're ripe.

They understand that the west world now is ripe for this and we're bringing it into this new consciousness, this new creativity. And this, this is why I love the ancient wisdom side of it, is because it's not being, we're not making it up. We're not, we're not discovering this. Again, it's like we're reawakening and reremembering what we've forgotten through getting up here too much.

Right. Your products.

Jarad: Yeah. On our events page you would find our being home human program. You'd also find our Italy trip, which is wonderful.

Josh: Yeah. I wanna talk about this probably more because I'm, I'm personally curious as well, like talk to people about the immersion trips that you take in the one coming up in Italy.

Jarad: Well, yeah, Italy, this is our third year doing it. So we're, it's, uh, one that we love in particular, we've done some other trips as well to Hell's Canyon, Idaho. We do some here in Austin. We're looking into some other countries as well. But this Italy trip is hands down our favorite week of the year. And I mean, Italy is obviously a bucket list destination in its own right.

And it's like Tuscany's sort of neighbor, cousin, younger brother, less developed, but so, so much beauty. And it's kind of an agricultural bread basket of Italy, which is already quite the bread basket. And, um, they produce some of the cleanest and purest foods, like their actual sort of, and this is not true almost anywhere in the world, but some of their sort of government, uh, official county, city, state, whatever they, however they define their regions, uh, laws have organic like practices built into them.

Oh, I love that. That's so cool. I know it's impossible to even wrap your head around, but so that's the, that's the attraction of Italy itself, right? And we call the trip be slow and that there's a, a, a deep inspiration to that because there's something called, maybe you've heard of it, there's something called the Slow Food Movement, which it started in Italy.

That's a perfect example. Clean meaning, you know, environmentally sensitive and fair, having to do with like the farm worker safety and wellbeing and stuff like that. Um, and so this organization started in Italy as a response to the first McDonald's opening up in Rome. Oh. And so when fast food tried to move in, they started slow food and they protested by serving like spaghetti dinners in the streets, um, which is such a beautiful protest.

Um, and so this is a deeply inspiring concept to me. I don't have any other affiliation with this organization, but I love that story. I've attended some of their events over the years. I even certified, our original farm in California has a slow food. We got the slow food snail of approval they call it.

So there's certain types of potatoes and beans, and even practices like the manners in which we harvest sea salt, or the manners in which we raise reindeer In Scandinavia, there's different foods and what they call food ways, like those practices. Are going endangered. And so they put them on this arc of taste.

And now chefs are encouraged to feature them and highlight them on their menu so diners can become aware of them. And so you'll sometimes see a little, uh, snail on a menu in Europe, and at the bottom it'll say Slow food, Presidio, which is what they call it in Europe. And it's the arc of taste. They're saying, this ingredient is so special, you should learn about it.

Um, and the three of us weaved together a week of wellness programming on this private 70 acre organic olive orchard family estate in the mountains. You see nothing but mountains. There's no development or anything, no noises. We're deep in on a private, uh, umbrian mountainside in a thousand year old restored home with world class food and family hospitality.

One of people's favorite experiences is this woman that we go visit. We spend the day at her country estate, we cook outside on her wood fire, and she's a slow food pioneer. This like, uh, matriarch, just what you'd call like a Nona, like a Italian grandmother, master chef who actually turned down a Michelin star because it would change the lifestyle and stress of her staff so much that she didn't want it.

'cause I've been planning this for years now. Every single bite of food and drink of water, wine, tea, et cetera, is organic, biodynamic, wild harvested, extremely well sourced. And again, we've been doing that for years. So we're very dialed in with all the people that we work with out there at this point. I mean, we we're fr we're friends with them.

I stay in touch with these people.

Josh: Yeah. Well that, that's also part of the community aspect of this whole thing is you create to not only give, but like you're giving back to the whole process, which becomes the biodynamic piece is like you, you created a community, you create friends, you create lasting relationships.

So I can't wait to dig in more on that.

Jarad: Yeah. And of course, if you think about it, I mean you, another way of, like, if you, if you look back at the end of the conversation, you'll be like, oh, he's doing all the kinds of things you could've imagined happening at that hotel. It's like, I'm the same guy. You know what I mean?

I have the same dream. It's just that consensus reality burned down and had to pivot. But underneath it was my dream, which is why it's so important, especially in this teaching I was talking about earlier, the dream line. But just in general, the thing that saved my life after the fires was having the dream.

Josh: super drop mic moment boom.

Because that is the essence is like when you, when you're clear on your north star, like super clear. Like you didn't know how, you didn't know what was gonna happen, but you were clear in that why. And that's, that's the, the, that's what I think just helps people guide, which allowed everything to unfold for you and unfold for others.

So thank you for that, for sharing that wisdom in the way that you have today. It's

Jarad: beautiful. Well, it's a, it's a, it's an embodied resharing of that teaching, which is Paul. Paul's teaching on what he calls the dream line. That is really the essence of the Dr the, the dream line teaching is to have a dream that you love more enough than what you're most afraid of.

Josh: Well, we will make sure that we definitely post the links, be here, farm.com, being human and be slow, umbria all really awesome things. Um, if you had to, I always ask this question at the end when, when there's, this has been a beautiful conversation, so for one, just thank you, thank you for enlightening your way into this and the wisdom of your life and your story.

'cause I think people learn and grow through story. Uh, I know they do. But if you had to, if you had to give the listeners one thought out of this conversation or what you wanted to impart today, what would it be?

Jarad: I think that silence that we gave him was probably a worthwhile moment in the day. I would say cultivate, cultivate a steady state of silence as often as possible. I love

Um, can thank you enough for being on our show.

Jarad: My pleasure. And you know, that I was enjoying myself because I got all the way to here without even really talking about our skincare products, which is the main way within which people sort of know us and interact with us in the world. So everything that I shared today, really on a daily basis, rhythmically through my passion and my intention and my rhythms is worked.

Into these products. And so, um, that is why I think people respond to them is 'cause they can feel that whole conversation we just had when they, when they put it on them.

And when I was a pharmacist, that's what I did. I didn't do it intentionally, but that's what people got. And I, I believe in nurturing the placebo effect in that direction, like nurturing people's ability to heal. And so, yes, I can't wait to look at your products and, and bring them into, and, and I always use the do you first principle.

So I'm gonna start using them and see what, what happens so I can give my own experience and, and share with the world. So yeah, check 'em out. That's what we're really gonna talk about and that's why I love these conversations. 'cause we both had that intention and this what this beautiful conversation came from that.

So

Jarad: yeah, that's how I said one moment. That's how you know it was a good one.

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