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This podcast episode elucidates the significance of physical fitness specifically tailored for golfers, particularly those in the later stages of life. I am joined by Carrie O'Rourke, a distinguished expert from CORE Golf Fitness, who expounds upon the necessity of maintaining flexibility and mobility to enhance one’s golfing experience. As we age, the imperative to engage in targeted physical training becomes increasingly salient, especially for those desiring to sustain their performance on the course. Carrie shares her insights on how a structured approach to fitness can not only improve golf skills but also foster a more enjoyable and pain-free playing experience. Throughout our discussion, we emphasize the critical interplay between physical conditioning and one’s ability to execute a sound golf swing, thereby advocating for a comprehensive understanding of fitness as an integral component of the golfing lifestyle.
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It's time for Grilling at the Green.
Speaker A:Join Jeff Tracy as he explores the golfing lifestyle and tries to keep it in the short grass for the hackers, new sweepers and turf spankers.
Speaker A:Here's Jeff, Everybody.
Speaker A:Welcome to Grilling at the Green on jt.
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Speaker A:But go to birdieball.com well, a lot of people that listen to this show are over the age of 12.
Speaker A:And as you age, sometimes not so gracefully, I can say that from personal experience, you need to work on your body a little bit.
Speaker A:And I'm not talking about the old Jack lalanne getting up in the morning and doing calisthenics.
Speaker A:It's more about stretching and especially if you love to play golf, stretching and doing some stuff.
Speaker A:But I'm not the expert on that.
Speaker A:But my guest today, Carrie o' Rourke from CORE Golf Fitness is.
Speaker A:Carrie reached out to me about a year ago and we finally connected and got her on the show here.
Speaker A:And first of all, welcome.
Speaker A:It's nice to see you.
Speaker A:And core.
Speaker A:What, why did you do this?
Speaker B:Why did I do the business in general?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, sure, yeah, that's a really good question.
Speaker B:My, my background is originally as a civil engineer, and then over time I became a mom and evolved into personal training.
Speaker B:And my two sons eventually became high level golfers, two college golfers.
Speaker B:And as they were going through their journey of becoming better golfers, my son Max was at a lesson at Oakland Hills, actually here in Detroit.
Speaker B:And the coach turned to me and said, hey, mom, you're a personal trainer.
Speaker B:Max is really stiff and if you could get some mobility in him, he can hit the ball a lot further.
Speaker B:And in that moment, I realized I had no idea how to help my kid become a better golfer, despite the fact that I'd been a personal trainer helping people do the Jack LaLanne routines for the last couple of years and that I needed to take a new approach because we do anything for our kids to help them succeed, especially in sports.
Speaker B:So it's in that moment I decided to become TPA certified.
Speaker B:And then when my focus became golf specific, I realized that the older market in 50s, 60s, 70s, I'm included in that age rage.
Speaker B:So I'm allowed to say it is really underserved in golf.
Speaker B:And they have a more unique need generally than going to the gym and pushing weights around if they want to be better golfers.
Speaker B:So after traveling to country clubs all around town, meeting these guys, talking to them and helping them play golf, I found the magic sauce to help golfers become more mobile, flexible, and in turn, they're hitting the ball farther, lowering their handicaps, staying competitive.
Speaker B:And it's great to help people become better at golf.
Speaker A:You know, I think in a previous life, and I know the listeners are probably in viewers tired of me saying this, but I was very, very, very, very involved in equestrian stuff.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:I challenge anybody to meet an old horse person that doesn't have a bad back.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker A:And probably bad knees because our knees are meant to go forward and back and on.
Speaker A:When you're riding horses, it's more of a lateral, you know, movement like that.
Speaker A:So you age of 50, you can be walking like a hermit crab.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So it's.
Speaker A:And I love to golf, that's why I do this show.
Speaker A:But I'm also very involved in the golf industry here.
Speaker A:And it's difficult sometimes, Carrie, for people that were athletic, if you will, in their earlier in their life and they get to a certain age and stage and the muscles aren't cooperating, you know, and maybe you have some injuries that you've been kind of nursing over a period, period of time.
Speaker A:How difficult is it to actually get those folks to say, look, if you just do 1, 2, 3, you can't give them a laundry list of 50 things to do, I'm sure, because they'll lose interest.
Speaker A:I would.
Speaker A:Okay, but if you can do these one, two, three simple things, you can start to activate those muscles again.
Speaker A:You can get them stretched out, get a little more elasticity in them and this will help you.
Speaker B:Well, Jeff, I'm going to challenge you right there because this is my job as a coach where you say I would lose interest.
Speaker B:Would you lose interest if in three to four weeks you had 10 more yards or you weren't popping pain pills?
Speaker B:Would that help keep your interest because you see the results?
Speaker B:Because anytime you're talking about any sort of fitness.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker B:Motivation is an elusive made up thing.
Speaker B:None of us are motivated to stand up and do some bicep curls at the beginning.
Speaker B:You need to have some grit and some dedication.
Speaker B:And you mentioned guys that were athletes in college, like, these are competitive golfers.
Speaker B:So is it hard to get them to do this?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Would it be harder for someone like you, Jeff?
Speaker B:That's what you're telling me right now.
Speaker B:Because you, you may need to dial in, have some grit, have some dedication, start to see some results in your golf game, and you're like, holy cow, this is actually working.
Speaker B:And then the motivation comes to keep going.
Speaker B:So you would not lose interest if you saw that you were gaining yards or you mentioned having some back pain, less back pain.
Speaker B:If any of those things were happening on the golf course, would you stop what you were doing that was working?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, in, like, I don't.
Speaker A:Not only have.
Speaker A:I wouldn't call pain, I would call it extreme stiffness at times.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Aches and pains.
Speaker B:But maybe not medical.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because I have.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:Nobody wants to hear this, Gary, but I'm going to tell you, I have rods in my back.
Speaker A:You know, I've got two replacement knees.
Speaker A:I like the bionic guy.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:They should have given me a television show back in the 90s and I could have, you know, made a really interesting.
Speaker A:But I, I think that we are so overwhelmed at times, especially in the golf world, by this device.
Speaker A:It's a stick and a bungee cord.
Speaker A:And it, It'll, it'll help you.
Speaker A:You will gain 10 yards or you will do this.
Speaker A:How.
Speaker A:How do you carry.
Speaker A:Stand out with what you help people with versus.
Speaker A:I mean, you can't search on anything.
Speaker A:Google for golf, but you're not getting some device that says this will help you gain 10 yards, even if your back is totally immobile.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:Tell us how that works.
Speaker B:Right, that's.
Speaker B:That's a fair question.
Speaker B:Because anything we want to invest in, in life, there's a zillion choices, whether it's your car, your dentist, or anything as it, as it relates to golf.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker B:So my specific plan is geared towards a very certain type of golfer.
Speaker B:And if you fit this category, this is a good place for you.
Speaker B:If you don't fit it, then there may be something different.
Speaker B:So I am looking at golfers who are ages 45, typically 50, 60s, 70s.
Speaker B:I do have two 80s, God bless them right now, who are busy.
Speaker B:They travel, they've got two houses, two country club memberships, or they're doing sales and they're on a plane here and there's a.
Speaker B:And they're playing Tournaments and they're competitive, so they don't have a lot of time.
Speaker B:They've already tried lessons, they've tried the technology, they've been to the club fitter.
Speaker B:They've done all the things that you're supposed to do to be a good golfer.
Speaker B:And it's reached a point where you see your swing on video and say, what the heck just happened?
Speaker B:It used to be full and fluid and this swing on video no longer matches the swing in my brain.
Speaker B:And it is definitely because.
Speaker B:See, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And it's exactly because you've lost that flexibility and mobility.
Speaker B:And it happens so gradually that you don't notice it until it creeps up on you like that.
Speaker B:And so that's what makes mine different, is geared towards that specific person.
Speaker B:I don't use any gadgets or fancy equipment because I want you to be able to take this with you from your house in Ohio to your house in Naples, Florida.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker B:And it has to go with you on vacation or if you're playing in tournaments at your buddy's course in Texas.
Speaker B:You know, you've got all, all the tools that you need that don't require the tools to keep it simple, fast and efficient.
Speaker B:If you're losing flexibility and mobility, that's.
Speaker B:That's exactly what I do.
Speaker A:Fair enough.
Speaker A:We're going to take a break.
Speaker A:We're going to be back with Carrie o' Rourke from Core Golf Fitness right after this.
Speaker A:Please stay with us.
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Speaker A:Welcome back to Really9JT.
Speaker A:We're very fortunate to have Kerry O' Rourke with us from Core Golf, Core Golf Fitness.
Speaker A:I can't talk this morning, Carrie.
Speaker A:So sorry about that.
Speaker A:I've, I've been kind of following Carrie.
Speaker A:I follow her on social media and stuff.
Speaker A:But it's interesting to me because sometimes.
Speaker A:Tell me if I'm wrong.
Speaker A:Sometimes the simplest things are the most effective things.
Speaker A:When, when you're doing this, we talked about this in the first segment, and you've got, you know, you've got gadgets and technology and all that's that they're all done.
Speaker A:Well, there's, you know, they, they're all designed to do a specific thing, get a specific result.
Speaker A:But I have found for me, and I'll just tell you one.
Speaker A:Of course, when I get up in the morning, it takes about five minutes to get all the body parts going in the same direction down the hall, right.
Speaker A:And after that, and in my job now, and has been for a long time, I'm sedentary a lot.
Speaker A:I'm staring at screens, I'm staring at the end of a microphone, I'm writing, I'm doing whatever.
Speaker A:But the last couple of years, I've really made an effort to move.
Speaker A:I just get up and move.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I go outside, I do stuff.
Speaker A:I like to do the Forrest Gump thing, driving my lawnmower, making lines in the yard.
Speaker A:That's a joke around here.
Speaker A:That's how I actually escape.
Speaker A:But I like to move.
Speaker A:And I do some simple stretches, and I find when I do that, and I do it on a regular basis and, and that my golf game just with those little things is much better.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I'm sure with some program that you would design, it would be exponentially show.
Speaker A:So, but again, it's a time constraint for me.
Speaker A:You know, I, I, I, I still probably work 14 hours a day.
Speaker A:I, maybe I shouldn't at this age, but I still do because I like it.
Speaker A:But the, the, you know, the downside of that is again, being sedentary too much, then going to the golf course and saying, you know, I can hit this thing 275 yards and it goes 75 yards.
Speaker A:So give on that, especially the sedentary part, because when people get older, they tend to do that.
Speaker B:People tend to do that.
Speaker B:Not my clients.
Speaker B:I will say that.
Speaker A:Okay, fair enough.
Speaker B:That's not the person that I'm not here to be your mama and tell you that you need to get healthy.
Speaker B:Let's just say it like it is here, Jack.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:But if you are someone who's sedentary, you are going to create some tightness in your hips, you're going to get some weak glutes, you're going to get weak core.
Speaker B:And those things happen from sitting all day long, and those absolutely affect your golf swing.
Speaker B:So when it becomes bad enough that you're ready to Take some action.
Speaker B:You can find 25 minutes in your 14 hour day that you say you choose to work 14 hours.
Speaker B:You don't have to.
Speaker B:So you can choose to take the 25 minutes three times a week.
Speaker B:When my golfers in 90 days following that plan, gentleman I just spoke to today shot 78 and had gained 20 to 30 yards on his drive consistently.
Speaker B:He's a good golfer.
Speaker B:He's 66 years old and he was surprised and, and a little bit skeptical when we first came in, but decided to trust me.
Speaker B:And he's like, this is the best money I've ever spent on golf.
Speaker B:Not only is he playing better, he's feeling better.
Speaker B:And in life in general, he said his dog is happier because he can run around and play with his dog more too.
Speaker B:So there's a lot of other benefits outside of golf, but to your point, sometime, sometimes golf becomes the motivator, the little carrot that's dangling in front of you to get you to create have a healthier lifestyle.
Speaker B:Not because you want to drop your blood pressure or your doctor says you have to drop a few pounds for your knees, but because it's going to help your golf game.
Speaker B:And then you have an overall better quality of life after that as well.
Speaker B:And you can please use golf as your motivator to get healthy.
Speaker B:I will.
Speaker A:There, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:I am, in my own personal case, I'm still very strong.
Speaker A:I am, you know, and, and I think that came from all the years on the ranches and, and that stuff.
Speaker A:I'm just, I'm just not trim and sinewy anymore if I ever was, you know, but I've still got a lot of, of upper body strength.
Speaker A:My legs are super strong.
Speaker A:It's that, that 6 inch wide right at the belt line, if you will.
Speaker A:No movement zone, if you want to call it that.
Speaker A:You know, that's where the damage was done years ago.
Speaker A:And that's the part when that is loose or as loose as it can possibly get.
Speaker A:My game is great, you know, for, for my standards.
Speaker B:Right, okay.
Speaker B:Well, you're speaking of two different things there.
Speaker B:And one is if you've got that tightness that's a result of having rods on your back and things that you cannot work around because of medical situations, which happens.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's when it becomes even more important to make sure that every other part of your body in the golf swing is moving fully.
Speaker B:So if you have to work around a medical situation and if you've had rotator cuff surgery, knee surgery, hip surgery, so common for golfers, sure.
Speaker B:It's even more vital so that your.
Speaker B:If it's your lower back, for you, if your shoulders and your upper back don't rotate, your lower back is going to try and pick up some of that rotation, and that's going to create more pain.
Speaker B:So that's.
Speaker B:That's one piece of it, is if you've got medical issues you need to work around, it's.
Speaker B:Everything else becomes even more important.
Speaker A:How.
Speaker A:We've got about a minute and a half where we got to go to break.
Speaker A:Carrie, how do you work around that?
Speaker A:I mean, it's.
Speaker A:I guess I'm not a physiotherapist or anything, but, I mean, how.
Speaker A:How do you.
Speaker A:Like I said, I don't have any issues in the upper body.
Speaker A:I really don't have.
Speaker A:Now that I got new hinges in my knees, that's not a big deal.
Speaker A:I will tell you that if you have two of them, not the same time, don't ever do that.
Speaker A:You got to work on your balance, because I think your body has adjusted to working without good hinges for a long time, and then you get them, and all of a sudden your balance is.
Speaker A:You got to work on that a little bit.
Speaker A:Takes a little getting used to, is what I'll say.
Speaker B:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker B:You left me very short time to answer that.
Speaker A:Well, we can pick it up on the other side, too.
Speaker A:It's okay.
Speaker B:Well, I'm going to say one.
Speaker B:You start with a TPI assessment so you understand where your restrictions are.
Speaker B:So if you don't assess, I can't answer that for you.
Speaker B:So if your hips don't move enough for golf and.
Speaker B:But we find that your shoulders are also restricted.
Speaker B:But there's no medical situation in an ideal world.
Speaker B:Let me have at it with you for 90 days, fix everything we can.
Speaker B:And then the next step is to go to the swing coach and.
Speaker B:And say, hey, swing coach.
Speaker B:Like, I've done this program.
Speaker B:I was able to get my shoulders moving regardless of these rods in my back.
Speaker B:My hips are only going to go to the right and not to the left.
Speaker B:And then you design your swing around your body after that versus going to a swing coach, and you're like, I've got these aches and pains.
Speaker B:I'm stiff.
Speaker B:I don't know if I'm ever going to get this rotation back or not.
Speaker B:And they're guessing how to create a swing for you because they don't know how your body may.
Speaker B:May or may not move.
Speaker B:So ideally, in that situation you presented to me is get Your fitness done first and then move on to the swing coach who now designs your swing around what your body can and can't do.
Speaker B:Because now you understand what your body can and can't do.
Speaker A:I want to pick that up on the other side, okay.
Speaker A:Because he said something there that's really interesting to me that I have gone through.
Speaker A:Anyway, Kerry and I will be back here on Grilling at the Green on Golf News Network in just a couple of minutes.
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Speaker A:We're talking with Carrie o' Rourke from Core Golf Fitness.
Speaker A:Okay, you touched on something there that in the last segment towards the end that I, I've experienced.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I've gone to couple of swing coaches.
Speaker A:They're great people, and they know what they're doing.
Speaker A:Except for the fact.
Speaker A:Here's the caveat.
Speaker A:When you say my body really doesn't, you know, if the.
Speaker A:If the full rotation is 40 degrees, but my body will only go 30.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I'm just making stuff up here for you.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:But it will only go 30 because of these physical limitations.
Speaker A:And they keep trying to get you to do the classic golf swing.
Speaker A:All right?
Speaker A:And nine chances out of 10 and I'm.
Speaker A:And these Guys are really good people.
Speaker A:I'm not knocking them.
Speaker A:But you get so frustrated with them by the end because they're trying to get you to do something.
Speaker A:And I think that's frustrating for people that have medical issues, if you will, because you're not going to get that 45 degree turn or whatever it is.
Speaker A:You can get close to it, but you're probably not going to get it every time.
Speaker A:You know, you, I think you reach a point in the stretching and the programs work.
Speaker A:Except when you get to the swing coach and they're still trying to get you to swing like somebody else instead of your swing.
Speaker A:Your thoughts right?
Speaker B:Well, that's one of TPI's teachings, is that there isn't one way to swing a club, there's multiple ways to swing it.
Speaker B:But what is the same as what happens on the inside, which is the energy transfer and the sequencing.
Speaker B:And so I can only speak to myself, but I hear what you're saying.
Speaker B:Where golfers, whether they're at a swing coach or just watching their own swing on video, their body just isn't getting into the positions that are needed for that particular swing that they're trying to do.
Speaker B:And so this is like the, the cake that you bake is only as good as the recipe that you have.
Speaker B:Your swing's only as good as what you put into it and the ingredients.
Speaker B:So my data that I give you is the step by step recipe that you should hand to your swing coach to make that nice swing.
Speaker B:But until you've gone through and tested yourself and fixed everything that needs to get fixed, you, you're, you don't have that information to give your swing coach either.
Speaker B:So it's it.
Speaker B:We work hand in hand with a swing coach.
Speaker B:I'm not sure replace them.
Speaker B:They're not here to replace me.
Speaker B:I have a lot of swing coaches that work with me on their body for their own game and for their clients.
Speaker B:So it is frustrating if your body can't get into the positions that are required for that swing you're trying to make.
Speaker B:And then you touched on something very so obvious to me that golfers tend to miss.
Speaker B:You said the consistency because sometimes your hip can get in the position and sometimes it can't.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:So that's how the fitness side of things helps create consistency in your game, that you can step up to that first he and not wonder, are my hips going to rotate today?
Speaker B:Is my back going to hurt?
Speaker B:But knowing that you've done everything you can to be prepared to create consistency and it's more than just hitting a couple of balls on the range.
Speaker A:So when you, let's give a hypothetical scenario here, Carrie.
Speaker A:Okay, so you've got somebody that comes in and they've maybe had some back issues, maybe not as severe as others, but just, you know, with age and lack of activity and stuff.
Speaker A:And they're doing that and you assess them and then you say, okay, we want to do these three things.
Speaker A:Give us an example of two or three things that you would start somebody with.
Speaker A:You don't have to give away the trade secrets.
Speaker A:But I'm just saying, is it, is it more stretching and rotation?
Speaker A:I mean, what is the kind of the basic components that pretty much everybody has to start with?
Speaker B:Yeah, my sequencing is starting with a deep dive in flexibility and mobility as it relates to the golf swing and rotation, and then moving into rotational power of core strength and glute strength, then moving into balance and weight shifts like you mentioned, and then speed and endurance.
Speaker B:So the speed part is sexy.
Speaker B:Everybody wants more speed.
Speaker B:The balance, as you already mentioned, is the foundation of it.
Speaker B:So while it's not sexy and glitzy, it's so important to practice balance and weight shift in the golf swing, especially as we get older.
Speaker B:So that would be the high level sequencing that I use and touch on in my programs.
Speaker B:And it is really filling the gap for somebody who is either coming from no fitness and, and sitting a lot or golfers who are doing weightlifting and have big muscles or doing CrossFit and really missing these other pieces.
Speaker B:So there's going from no fitness to golf fit or already fit and going to golf fit.
Speaker B:Those two little gaps that I'm trying to fill for different types of golfers.
Speaker A:No, I, I, it's, oh, so there we are.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I think from personal experience that, like I said earlier, more movement for me, more stretching.
Speaker A:I've, you know, when you, when you, when you have some sort of medical thing, you've had surgeries and stuff, they usually send you to physical therapy.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:As I used to call it torture because, and I swore those guys studied under Torquemada.
Speaker A:If you don't know who Torquemada is, look him up.
Speaker A:He was the guy from the Spanish Inquisition anyway.
Speaker A:But I still use some of those pretty much every day.
Speaker A:As far as the stretching and that, it's not a concise program like you're talking about, but I still use those.
Speaker A:And when I do use those very simple tasks, if you will, not only do I play better, but I feel better.
Speaker A:And when I, when I get into Jeff in the office, Mode.
Speaker A:That's when things kind of go back to the starting blocks, you might say.
Speaker A:So it's like you said, you have to have the motivation, you have to have the dedication.
Speaker A:And depends.
Speaker A:I, I think too.
Speaker A:Carrie, how serious do you want to be about playing golf?
Speaker B:Well, that's the question.
Speaker B:Sometimes it's someone who's serious and competitive, or it's someone who wants to be 90 years old and still playing on the golf course.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that may not be considered serious if you're not competitive, but it's still pretty serious if you retire and you play golf three days a week.
Speaker B:And it's not about the scores, but it's about time with your friends or your wife or your kids or your grandkids or your buddies.
Speaker B:That's where you make business deals.
Speaker B:Like, oh, yeah, if your option is do, do 25 minutes three times a week, or quick golf.
Speaker B:Which one you picking?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So what's your routine?
Speaker B:My fitness routine?
Speaker A:Yeah, your personal one.
Speaker B:Well, I'm a fitness nut, which is why I'm in this, in this, in this job.
Speaker B:I do general weightlifting and flexibility pretty much every day.
Speaker B:So I've got the tools.
Speaker B:But there's also days where like, my left shoulder has been bugging me and I know how to test it now because I can go against my TPI results that I have for myself.
Speaker B:I'm like, oh, shoot.
Speaker B:My, my shoulder is like not quite getting into the position it was before.
Speaker B:So this feeling that I'm having where it feels like I can't scratch my back quite anymore, I have a three second test.
Speaker B:I'm like, oh, something's going on there.
Speaker B:And I've got the stretches in on my own to do, so I do my own, my own rotation exercises and stretching all the time.
Speaker A:Well, that's, that's pretty cool.
Speaker A:Can you, can you beat Max on the golf course?
Speaker B:I cannot beat either of my children.
Speaker B:That's a good thing though, right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I like the clubs in the background.
Speaker A:Classic bag there and stuff.
Speaker A:I like that.
Speaker B:And I, I have my dad's eagle eye clubs.
Speaker B:Ping ping ping I2s from 80s that I use in my content and, and in my videos and things like that that are kind of fun.
Speaker B:And there's a lot of golfers out there that still have that set in their garage.
Speaker A:Oh yeah?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I had ping zings back in from, back in that era and I played with them a long time and then I, I passed them on to somebody else.
Speaker A:But they were a lot of fun.
Speaker B:Yeah, I was kind of excited to find those in my mom's basement like 10 years ago.
Speaker B:I'm like, I can take these.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:We're gonna take another break.
Speaker A:We're gonna be back and wrap up the show with Carrie o' Rourke from Core Golf Fitness.
Speaker A:And Carrie will give you all her, you know, information on how to find her and watch her videos and all that.
Speaker A:And don't forget to follow us on Golf Newsnet and all these other platforms.
Speaker A:And we try to bring you pretty good content every week.
Speaker A:Anyway, Carrie and I'll be back in just a moment.
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Speaker A:I love them.
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Speaker A:We talked about this at the very first of the program, but how did you go from a civil engineer, you know, you're dealing with slide rules.
Speaker A:Well, not literally, but, you know, and you're doing your blueprints and this and that and blah blah, blah.
Speaker A:And now all of a sudden you're working with old golfers like me.
Speaker B:Well, I took an evolution that many moms take.
Speaker B:When I had my kids, I stopped working and then it was, what do I do next?
Speaker B:So many of us who are parents can relate to that, whether you're the mom or the dad.
Speaker B:So I went into personal training as a part time mom Job, and I'm still here.
Speaker B:But the logical mindset that you learn from being an engineer is very evident in the way I've laid out my program and all my other golf clients who are engineers, accountants, logical people.
Speaker B:They are like, okay, I get it.
Speaker B:I'm here.
Speaker B:I like structure.
Speaker B:Tell me what to do.
Speaker B:Take me from A to Z.
Speaker B:Let's go.
Speaker B:So those skills even work in golf?
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Well, you know, I've always said.
Speaker A:I've said it a lot of times.
Speaker A:Maybe not in this particular set of words, but if you look at some of the best golfers, they kind of have that logical, methodical way they play.
Speaker A:I really think that if you look at golf that way, not only for fitness, but for the way you play it, that that may not be as fun as just getting up there and just bashing it and seeing where it goes.
Speaker A:You know, hit it and find it, hit it and find it type thing.
Speaker B:But gotta try that sometimes.
Speaker B:You gotta go for it.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, I. I do that all the time.
Speaker A:I try.
Speaker A:Try the hero shot.
Speaker A:What's it gonna cost you?
Speaker A:Especially at the level we play at?
Speaker A:You know, it's just a lot of fun.
Speaker A:But I think that, like, you're right.
Speaker A:That logical thought process, that mindset is.
Speaker B:Golf's all about physics, too.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I actually passed physics in school.
Speaker B:Good job.
Speaker A:Yeah, I did that.
Speaker A:Past physics and past chemistry.
Speaker A:If you were going to give people some advice, Carrie, people listen to this show.
Speaker A:People that come across you on the.
Speaker A:On the Interweb, as they call it.
Speaker B:Who calls it that?
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, anybody over 50, I think, anyway.
Speaker B:Over 50?
Speaker A:Well, that guy in the Liberty Mutual commercials.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That guy calls it the Interweb.
Speaker B:The one about.
Speaker B:Don't be like your dad.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:What would you.
Speaker A:What would you tell them?
Speaker A:What would be the.
Speaker A:The stimulus, the impetus for them to.
Speaker A:To find you or find somebody that has the skills that you have?
Speaker A:There's probably nobody that has the exact skill set you have, but you know what?
Speaker A:I mean, what would.
Speaker A:What would be the impetus for them to say, give it a try if.
Speaker B:You've already tried everything else?
Speaker B:Because there's three ways to get better at golf according to tpi.
Speaker B:Your swing mechanics.
Speaker B:Obvious.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Properly fitted equipment, obviously.
Speaker B:And the third part that's not so obvious is your body, because your body's the engine that fuels the club.
Speaker B:So it's like taking a junky car and thinking it's going to drive really fast when the engine is old and doesn't have any horsepower left in it anymore.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:You could flap a paint job on it.
Speaker B:It's not going to go any faster.
Speaker B:So my advice is, you've got one, you got nothing to lose.
Speaker B:If the least that happens is you lose five pounds, then great.
Speaker B:And if the best that happens is you feel happier on the golf course and you don't.
Speaker B:Don't have aches and pains and you win some skins from your buddies.
Speaker B:But if you want to keep playing golf, whether you want to play it well or just play with your friends, you want longevity.
Speaker B:Your health is the foundation of all of that, especially as we get older and it gets harder and we all want to win.
Speaker B:It's a much better day when we win or hit the ball, you know, hit the ball further.
Speaker B:Even if you don't win, you have that beautiful drive.
Speaker B:I want you to, at any age, walk up to that first tee with the genuine belief that today could be the best round of your life.
Speaker B:I don't want you to give up that feeling.
Speaker A:Oh, that's.
Speaker A:That's perfect.
Speaker A:That's perfect.
Speaker A:Okay, we're just about out of time.
Speaker A:How can people find Kerry O'?
Speaker B:Rourke?
Speaker B:My website is CoreGolfitness.
Speaker B:C O R G O L F F I T n e s s.com corgolfitness.com and social media everywhere.
Speaker B:Corgal Fitness, Facebook and Instagram.
Speaker A:Excellent.
Speaker A:Terry, thank you for being on the show.
Speaker A:Spending some time with us and your own version of the Spanish Inquisition is coming up right after this with after hours.
Speaker A:But again, thank you.
Speaker A:It's been a real pleasure.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker A:But we'll be back in a week or so with some new shows here on Grilling at the Green.
Speaker A:So go out, play some golf, have some fun.
Speaker A:But most of all, be kind.
Speaker A:Take care, everybody.
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