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Hey, it's Lucas,

quick word of caution.

We say a naughty word in this

episode and we say it a lot.

So if that is a problem for

you or anyone else under the

sound of my voice, skip ahead.

Past about the 15 minute mark

You are in Roothold,

which is in the plane of elemental chaos.

And after a lot of adventuring, tunneling

through sheet rock, you arrive at

an enormous hall made of onyx, ruby

quartz, and glimmering star sapphires.

Sitting on the throne is a

hulking, muscular man carved of

rock with dancing gemstone eyes.

He laughs as he braids the hair

of the goddess lounging in his

Luthic, the Blood Moon Witch.

Her body, though hardened from

battle is relaxed into his,

her face radiating sheer joy.

That is of course, until she notices you.

Welcome back to Making a Monster.

This episode, I'm bringing on some guests

I've been hoping to reach since day

one of the project, believe it or not.

Volume One released to the

DM's Guild, D&D's online storefront for

user-created content in June of 2019.

Each adventure subverts tropes around

a female mythological creature,

including hags, harpies, and medusas,

and it was a sign that D&D players

were hungry for nuanced, thoughtful

explorations of RPG monsters, and the

marginalized myths that inspired them.

And that volume has since

sold more than 5,000 copies.

The team is now working on their fifth

volume of Uncaged anthologies, this time

focusing on goddesses and that volume

is set to be released on February 22nd.

So with me are Jess Marcrum writing

director and adventure author

for Uncaged, and David Markiwsky,

producer and project manager.

Welcome to the show, guys.

Hey,

thanks for having us.

So tell me a little bit

about you how long have you

been playing Dungeons & Dragons?

Yeah, I

started playing D&D just at

the tail end of fourth edition.

About, I got about six months into

a campaign and then realize that

fifth edition was a little faster

to run since swapped over to that.

And much ever since.

I got halfway

through character creation for 3.5.

And then game ended up not happening.

And then I didn't play again until

I was almost 30 and, got into

role-playing and not with D&D actually

with tunnels and trolls of all things.

And, then started playing some dark

sun and didn't really look back.

I haven't heard the

name Dark Sun in a long time.

That's one of those settings

that didn't really make it to

fifth edition officially, did it?

No, but I wish, I hope

that it can, there's a lot of fun there.

When did you guys make the switch

from playing the game to writing for it?

Is this a part of what

you do in your day job?

I'm a social worker

slash trauma therapist and my day job.

The first thing I ever wrote for game

design was actually Uncaged Volume One.

And now I have two full-time jobs.

I think I had

been DM-ing for about four months

before I started writing something

for DM's Guild started off with

little pay-what-you-want adventure.

I think it was in 2016 or

2017 was when I wrote it.

Oh, so experienced David.

That would have been right

after the DM's Guild went live here.

You're on the vanguard.

then after that,

I think Gimble's Guide to the

Feywild was my next big thing.

And the last thing that I wrote

before getting in with Uncaged.

And you guys are just a small

part of a team by the time we're

now working on volume five, how

many people are involved in this?

So in goddesses we

have just over 70, I think we have 72,

add all of our sensitivity readers,

artists, editors, proofreaders.

I think the original volumes

were about 150 people total.

It sounds about right.

Cause I think we only had like 30

artists for all four of those volumes.

which is bananas to me.

That's

Well, it's

more bananas that we have that

many artists for goddesses.

Yeah, it's true.

Goddesses has such good art though.

Who's the core team I've

spoken on a previous episode to Ashley

Warren, and I corresponded briefly

with Gwen Bassett setting this up.

Is there anyone else in kind of the core

creative team whose name I might know?

Yeah.

So, Gwen Bassett and I are the

project managers on Goddesses.

Jess has the writing director we

also have an editor director as well.

Laura Evans who kind of managed

and coordinated all of our

editing and proofreading efforts.

And Ashley's

kind of our producer emeritus.

yeah, exactly.

Ashley hasn't been as much

involved in like the nuts and

bolts of creating the fifth volume.

We kind of took that on from

her, but she's been here to

guide us through everything.

Can you guys break down for me, how

you put this set of adventures together?

Yeah.

So, it started mostly

with the pitching phase.

We got over 200 pitches, I

think 221 pitches total is how

we got.

And we were originally only planning

on having 20 adventures in the book.

And we ended up adding

an extra one on there.

Just because we got so many good

ones, but part of what our we had a

team of people to review the pitches

because there were so many of them and

each one was over three or 400 words.

So we had eight different people that

were kind of scoring the pitches.

one of the things that were criteria

we scored on was how much does this

sort of align with what Uncaged

is about, how "Uncaged-y" is this?

Then that of into like feminist

representations and twisting on

tropes and representing things

that aren't normally represented.

All that kind of got in there.

And can like, if this

is an evil can they still have good

reasons for being evil without it being

like surprised they were good all along.

Ha!

Exactly.

And I think that, like, we really

especially tackle that in the next phase.

Once we kind of our pitches and

brought all the authors on board.

We had everyone write outlines and

Jess in particular, but also rest

of the admin team spent some time

going through all the outlines and

offering that kind of feedback on like,

okay, well, we'll need to push this

a little bit more in this direction,

a little bit more in that direction.

And then once we got into the

actual writing, then I think

Jess got into the nuts and

bolts , of some of the adventures.

Our tagline

for this was basically.

Just because she's evil doesn't

mean she doesn't have her reasons

or something it was phrased nicer,

but that, that's kind of how it was.

Every

villain has her reasons.

There we go.

Thank you.

And just like how Uncaged's thing was,

every monster has her story kind of thing.

And so we really wanted to

stick with their villains, but

they also have their reasons.

And our team that David mentioned to

review pitches was us on the admin team,

but also a diverse group of people who

had been involved with uncaged before,

like previous writers and artists on it.

And then also people who had not

been involved with on cage before,

but were very familiar with it.

So like people who have run a million

adventures from uncaged we could.

Like people who knew what we were

looking for and have a good idea of what,

sounds like a fun adventure for you?

Yeah, fantastic.

And I guess in the spirit of continually

editing down I know we've chosen

one monster in particular for today.

And I suppose I should pause to

kind of address the phrasing here.

I'm using the word monster in the sense in

which Dungeons & Dragons uses it that is

anything with a stat block, I'm going to

be conflating goddess and monster in this

conversation, and I don't think there's

anything I can really do to avoid that.

If it has a

stat block, it can be killed.

Yep.

Which is why some of the

goddesses in this don't have stat blocks.

The ones you encounter in their

room, some of the authors were

like, You cannot kill her here's

things she can do to you though.

interesting.

So, so does I'm going

to spoil a little bit.

Does Luthic have a statlock then?

Or are we operating in this kind of

non-mechanical, non-combat space?

She has

a big, chunky stat block.

She has two full page stat block.

My gosh.

She is CR 30.

She does a lot of things.

When you were building Luthic, is

she a conversion from an older edition?

Does she appear elsewhere in D&D

lore, or was she spun out of whole

cloth for Uncaged anthologies?

So she, despite having

a lot written about her, I could not

find any stats her in previous editions.

There's just a lot of lore over

five editions that describe what

she can do and how she does it.

And so I took all of those powers

and put them into her step block.

So her big things are that she

has claws that can extend to be

10 feet long or eight feet long.

She.

geez.

Bore through solid rock.

can fly.

She can cause blood rain that,

weakens her foes and insight a

frenzy that strengthens her wounded

allies that makes them stronger.

can inflict terrible diseases

on others and make everyone

around her vulnerable to disease.

And she can heal wounds as long

as she's touching the ground,

because her boyfriend, whose home

she is at, is the God of earth.

She also can't be paralyzed,

petrified, blinded, or deaf.

And if she is touching the ground,

naturally.

of course.

So I gave her a lot of stuff to

do that, you know, ties into that.

Plus just stuff you get from being a god.

What role did she generally

fill or rather, where did you

find her in these older stories?

Luthic gets really poorly

treated in a lot of the lore because

she does all of this really cool stuff.

She gives the orcs like visions of

the blood moon, which incites them to

battle and makes them into warriors.

She's there when every orc is born,

she's there when every orc dies.

yet she's really ignored by most

orcs just seen as like Gruumsh's wife

and disregarded by the rest of the

pantheon, most of which are her children.

So her husband and her children all

treat her like trash and the orcs,

except for like her clerics who are

called the orc Claws of Luthic, all

also kind of are like, whatever about

her, but it's canon that she's like the

smartest person in the pantheon and the

only one who's good at battle strategy.

She's also the only one who

knows how to heal apparently.

So, you know, she, she does all

this and doesn't get any credit.

And so this adventure is her acknowledging

that she needs a little bit of credit.

Let's talk about Luthic as a

goddess because D&D has a particular way

of handling divinity, assigning them

to domains, which is not something that

every religion has done nor the ones

that do consistently throughout history.

If we were to assign Luthic a

domain, how would you do that?

And what would you say

falls within her purview?

She has to actually

she's the life domain on the nature

domain, but for our purposes in

the book, she's in the life domain.

When we were working on the book,

we looked at all of the neutral and

evil goddesses, and most of them

fell into life, death and trickery.

Is that right?

kind of interesting.

In like the previous Uncaged books the

adventures were broken up by tier,

but since this time they're all tier

four, we couldn't really do that.

And especially because the difference

between level 17 and level 19, isn't

very apparent in a tier four adventure.

so level ranging them.

Wasn't great.

so we ended up breaking the

whole book into domains.

And what we found when we were doing that,

was that a lot of the domains that get

assigned to the gods or the goddesses,

always a hundred percent makes sense.

They kind of go like anything this

goddess has ever done is trickery?

Oh yeah, they tricked somebody?

They must be a trickery domain.

Oh, they grew something

or they healed somebody?

They must be life domain.

It's so weird.

Like, the Great Mother,

the primordial beholder goddess, is one

of the ones that appears in the book.

assigned like the life domain, the war

domain, there were a few random ones for

it that just of didn't really make sense.

What does that tell you about D&D?

Well, at one point, I did

go look and see how many of the goddesses

had an ephithet that had bitch in it.

And.

It was a lot.

And was sad that Luthic didn't have one.

So I originally gave her

one in the bad ending.

And so many editors were

like, this is terrible

because I guess if you don't know that,

like over half of the goddesses have "the

bitch whatever", like "the sea bitch",

"the storm bitch", "the rage bitch",

"the night bitch", then, you know, just

calling a goddess, "the something bitch",

people are going to be like, wow, harsh.

But it's like, no, she, she gets

to be with all of her friends now.

I didn't even know that.

And I've spent way too much time

doing this kind of research.

It's the type of quality

research that goes into Uncaged books.

I think that was

Ashley's original, like what pushed

her to want to do Goddesses was

seeing that Umberlee had two of them.

It was like "the bitch queen" and "the

sea bitch," and she was like, we need

a Goddesses book to redeem Umberlee.

That was the genesis

Goddesses book

was what, three years ago in the

Uncaged discord, when were talking

about Umberlee being called bitch.

And we were like, we need to do a book

of Uncaged goddesses, and then it kind of

fell under the radar for a few years until

we dredged it back out of the sea again.

What did you want players

to, to pull from this encounter?

What did you want them to feel

or to understand in a new way,

just after having met Luthic?

So, none of

them fought her in the fight,

Yeah.

which is why I

had David uh, run three different

versions of her, I think.

But yeah, that seems to be a very

Uncaged thing actually, is that you

get to the big monster and players tend

to like have a conversation instead.

Although I did set a thing so that like,

if you really want to fight, Luthic will

fight you and you don't have to kill her.

She is very hard to kill.

But I just wanted it to be a fun fight.

Like one where her actions kind

of work together like so she can

it rain, blood that makes you

more weakened to necrotic damage.

And then some of her other things

do necrotic damage and she can

spell cast, but doesn't really

need PSEO, but she can, if.

For whatever she can call on

allies who were in the throne

room to fight on her behalf.

Cause there's people worshiping her

and her boyfriend and there, and she

can give them advantage on the attack

role because that's, you know, part

of her thing to buff her allies.

And you get her down weak enough, she has

one of those mythic actions from Theros

and she turns into a big cave bear.

Yeah, that was probably

one of my favorite little editions

was that cave bear, mythic action.

Is she connected in some

way to sort of the cave bear idea?

They're one of

her sacred animals and she is

known to transform into cave bears.

So initially I had her starting the

fight as a cave bear, but then after

David was running it a bunch, we agreed

that it was a, I think it was David's

suggestion, actually, it would be more

fun if once you get her down to zero hit

points, she regains 200 and is a bear now.

Yeah.

And like the, that whole kind of

fight with her the, probably the best

part about running it, at least as a

DM and that all the players really,

I don't know if enjoyed would be

the word was that Luthic was super

mobile and just chased people down.

The all the casters of the party when

I was running it, we're constantly

trying to get away from her.

And she was just pursuing them

and like all the way back and

forth across the throne room.

No matter if they threw up

walls, no matter if they threw

up spells, she would just chew

through it, trying to get at them.

So that like bringing that cave bear in.

When you think you finally got her

down is like, oh, is finally over.

Oh, wait, no, the chase is not okay.

Yeah, she has

50 foot move speed, 50 foot fly

speed, and a burrow speed, 50 feet.

don't mind.

Gosh you cannot hide from Luthic.

That's incredible.

In play testing,

that was very much like you can't

hide was definitely the theme.

Cause we'd have wizards.

They would throw up a wall of force

and she would burrow underneath it.

You'd have like the teleport

away and she'd do a bonus.

Like there was a bonus action

for a pursuit, I think.

Yeah.

She tunnels and knocks

everybody around her prone.

I think it was

a legendary action actually.

But yeah.

Anyways, she would, every time

they'd try and get away, she'd

be right on their heels again.

So it was definitely a

theme of play-testing.

Yeah, that's fine.

And she can also choose to just

ignore spells because she's

high enough level to do that.

I should ask before we move on from

this particular point I think there's only

one officially published CR 30 creature.

I could be wrong about that,

but only one comes to mind.

The tarrasque.

Yeah, that's yeah, the big one.

This kind of specifically designated

as a world ending catastrophe the,

the point of reference for all

other difficulty curves in the game.

So when you were designing for a

challenge rating that high what did

you have to, what did you have to do

to occupy this space at the very

top of the games, difficulty curve?

Oh, there's a couple.

Now Tiamat is also CR 30, as is aspect

of Tiamat and aspect of Bahamut.

Yeah.

The Tiamat one was one of the uh, so

like one of the things that I did was

kind of go through all the, the avatars,

goddesses, anyone that got a stat block

and try and measure where they were.

And Tiamat was actually the, the measuring

stick she's pretty much one of the only

goddesses that has a stat block currently.

So was kind of like the be a little

bit higher, can be a little bit

lower, but should be somewhere

around this amount of stuff.

But it was also where we, lot of

the, the extra features that ended

up making their way into most of

the goddess stat blocks come from.

So things magic immunity

and stuff like that.

Yeah, I know we took

it wasn't just us, but like Tiamat

and Sul Khatesh from Eberron were

two that I think a lot of people

used as references possibly Xariel

too, for some of the more undead.

I know I looked at Orcus for a

couple of things just to kind

of figure out how Orcus works.

And just for context Tiamat and

Bahamut being the forgotten realms, sort

of yin and yang of draconic deities.

Xariel's the Archduke

of Avernus from Descent into Avernus.

Sul Khatesh from Eberron "one of the

great overlords who holds dominion over

the world of fear, war, and death."

What were some of those things

that mechanically belonged only to

goddesses that, definitely let players

and DMs know that that is the caliber

of creature with, which we're working?

Yeah.

Like limited magic immunity

is the one that came.

I think it's directly

on Tiamat stop block.

And all the different goddesses

have some form of magic, resistance

or magic immunity to them.

The weapons, anything they do is going

to be a magic attack another one.

Also disincorporation

is a big one that's in Tiamat, but it's

like, if they drop to zero hit points

and die, they don't actually die.

They travel back to their domain and

then reincorporate at some point.

Yeah, absolutely.

And I think pre yeah, everyone would have

legendary actions, but also the resistance

to bludgeoning, piercing, slashing.

I'm pretty sure appears in

every single goddess as well.

Yeah.

I think they all have some kind of absurd

immunities and truesight is a big one

that everybody has in various degrees.

I remember you made me shrink

Luthic, cause it was hurting all

of your casters because I gave

her truesight and tremor sense.

And you were like, she can't

have this much of both.

Yeah, that's, that's

an interesting interaction.

And a lot of this, a lot of those

particular mechanics are our account

are encompassing a lot of really

interesting literary tropes as far as

what they can see and what they can feel.

And the penetration of illusions.

And there's something to be said

here about the continual falling

off of illusion as a school

of magic relative to the rest.

But that's a different podcast.

I think.

Yeah.

And like, I think that's a, it's

probably a good point that there's

actually like this weird, in tier

four, things like true sight and

tremors, hands, blind sight, they're

all a little bit more common, right?

Once you get into higher level monsters.

But there's like a weird intersectionality

of them where they're okay on their own.

But yeah, start stacking them up,

they start to remove so many options.

That was something that I think we kind

of figured out in the first round of

play testing where it wasn't the fact

that something wrong with a monster

having tremor sense and true sight.

But that when you have them both

together, eliminate all the options.

Like there's, there's no way to kind

of trick your way past it once you

start stacking them over each other.

You're kind of also bumping

against the sort of "rocks fall

and everyone dies" trope where

"you're dead because I say so".

You're on the razor's edge between

having something that you can

interact with meaningfully in a combat

position and something that's just

beyond your ken as an adventure.

Yeah.

absolutely.

And it really comes to that, like sure.

It makes sense.

A goddess should be able to see

through your tricks and like most of

them, but there should still be a way.

Right?

And I think the tremor sense one was

because during play testing I had two

players and one of them was trying to go

in with a disguise and got saw through

and the other one was like, well, then

I'll go underground and like turn it

into an earth elemental and earth glide!

Well, with tremor sense

she could see that too.

So it kind of like, we, I think we went

through a checklist together of like,

these are all the ways that someone

might try and approach trick their way

will any of them work?

Some of them probably should work.

Yeah, we really

wanted, not just for Luthic, but

for all of the encounters in this

to be possible, but difficult.

And especially when you're at tier

four and you have, I mean, that's ideal

for any encounter, but at tier four,

when you have so many options at your

disposal, the last thing you want is a,

well, you can't do that cause I said so.

If the tagline for this

is every goddess has their

reason, what is Luthic's reason?

Oh, I mean, that's

kind of what you find out over

the course of the adventure, but

Oh, no.

Have I asked for spoilers?

No.

And this, I mean, I, I talked about in

the author's notes, how it was kind of

very loosely inspired by the Russian

folktale of how the sun was brought

back to the sky and also the nineties

classic, How Stella Got Her Groove Back

because Luthic is kind of fed up of being

ignored and mistreated by not just her

pantheon, but all of her worshipers and

just decides to not one day and leaves

and goes to her hot young boyfriend's

house and has no intention of returning.

And so if adventures are like,

no people are dying, you have

to come back and do your job.

Then there might be an

altercation if they're less

than friendly in their approach.

'Cause you know, she doesn't just quit.

She, she like middle fingers up releases

the escape hatch on the airplane and

fires two guns in the air before leaving.

She, she sends a blood rain

plague on everybody as she

quits her job in epic fashion.

That's incredible.

There's there's so much here.

I don't think I expected nineties

coming of age to match Russian

folktales, but here we are.

Oh gosh.

The Uncaged Anthology actually got

a lot of press in its early days as

kind of the feminist D&D adventure.

It seems to me, that's something you

guys are fairly comfortable with.

So like in the context of what you're

trying to do with Uncaged, bringing

someone like Luthic into this, what

does she contribute to that conversation

that none of the other goddesses do?

I think that

all of the, the goddesses.

and Jesse, you can speak

to Luthic in particular.

But bringing a goddess in, especially

a goddess that has, is like canonically

evil kind of gives you a different

perspective that like, feminism in

terms of an adventure doesn't just

encompass "take these things that are

evil and make them good" or "remove

their reason for maligning them",

that you can still have those, your

own motivations still tell a story

that's still that's centered on them.

Yeah, I think with

all of the goddesses, lot of, most of

our writers went really deep into the

forgotten rooms lore, which the original

uncaged books didn't so much, some

of them did, but a lot of the uncaged

adventures were taken directly from

fairytales and it was flipping fairytale

and mythological tropes because these are.

D&D goddesses they're taken

straight from their lower and

addressing issues in their lore.

So with Luthics, it's that she's

super powerful and super smart

and doesn't get any credit.

So her adventure is kind of like,

why am I putting up with this?

It, her acknowledging her own

worth and kind of forcing everyone

to reckon with that, right?

Like what if you have a really

attentive mom who just decides

to stop momming one day?

Like what happens?

Some of the other adventures deal

more with trauma that goddesses have.

Undergone and reconciling their

relationships with other deities or with

their own family, with our Pantheon.

And some of them who had less lore

about them the authors got to get a

little more creative and either invent

something cool for them to do, or kind

of just explore like what their domain

could be and aspects of how it works.

That was very long-winded.

No, that's what I'm here for.

What are you hoping that this

particular adventure with Luthic

is going to contribute to people's

understanding of their daily lives?

I hope that basically

everybody who has had to put up

with misogynistic nonsense at their

work at their home sees that they

have value because they might see

themselves in lieu thick a little bit

and realizes that they have value and

they don't have to put up with it.

They can just leave if they want,

or if they want to go back and make

things better, they can do that too.

Yeah, I know I've asked for

probably a master's level thesis that we,

that we could be writing on this kind of

material, but thank you for weighing in.

Orcs have had kind of a troublesome

history over the course of, of D&D

and especially in Forgotten Realms.

There was an errata that came

out recently that altered some of

the lore that had been published.

It's kind of changed going into

new editions of the game or new

printings of some of these monsters.

Is there something that you about

Luthic that contributes to the

conversation around orcs that you

would want to make sure we cover?

Or is that something that you'd

rather leave to uh, to someone else?

I had concerns

writing about orcs as a white writer.

And that was one of the first things

that I flagged for sensitivity reading

was to have at least one person review

the adventure to make sure that I

wasn't getting in into like tropey

things with the depiction of the orcs.

And like I've always loved orcs

because I, I'm a tall girl and any

time I see other tall buff women,

I'm like, "Yes, we are the same!"

But there so much more than that.

Uh, So yeah, I, we got really lucky honey

and dice sensitivity read for this one.

She read for a lot of our adventures

and was just really lovely.

And having her insight on

this was really helpful.

So that was, that was really great.

Did that process change the way

you think about orcs to sort of expand

it beyond this sisterhood of tall girls?

I think, I mean the big

thing was just depicting them as, you

know, a full people in a full culture.

And that's really hard when you also

want to focus the goddess herself and

you have only 3000 words and our limit.

So, what I tried to do with this is put

in like little bonus things that orcish

players, not orcish players, or just

characters might know, or people who

grew up around orcs, but also people

who worship Luthic, or are really into

religions so that it wasn't just like,

oh, this is just an art or culture thing.

Like, nobody else knows this,

but you know, also if you know,

religion, you might know this.

The other ties were like, but if your

character is an orc, they might actually

know people who are being harmed by what's

going on to have that kind of tie there.

Like you might run into some

family the way to make it feel

more personal to them, but yeah.

And showing multiple types of NPCs so

that it's not depicting a monolith.

So it's less, orcs are like this and more.

This ORC is like this.

We did try and

like bring a lot of that same sort

of care to all the adventures that

we went through her in the book.

And like having sensitivity

readers is something that's

been important throughout.

All of, not just on caged, but

Jess and I have worked on together.

I'm pretty sure.

So we did in sensitive

sensitivity, readers, wherever

we thought they might be helpful.

Even in cases where we were like probably

doesn't need it here, but we'll do

it better, better to do it than not.

So like, I think altogether we

had 12 or 14 of the 21 adventures

required sensitivity readers

for one thing or another.

And not just for like the issues with

orcs, but anything that that might

be or might require more sensitivity,

or maybe even in like in the case of

the Luthic adventure where having an

additional perspective might enhance the

adventure or broaden the scope of what the

writer would be able to kind of commit.

Yeah, we had a couple

goddesses in this who their whole thing

is specifically dealing with illusion or

things that play with your mental health.

So we had a lot of mental

health reading for that as well.

Yeah, that is also another podcast.

And I hope, I hope you guys will come back

because the, the door and there's so much

in uncaged, that's like very much in line

with what I want to do with this show.

So what's the best way to to make sure

I get a copy of Uncaged when it drops?

Follow

David and Gwen on Twitter.

So yeah, Uncaged:

Goddesses comes out on February 22nd.

So which is Tuesday coming out digitally

and in print the DM's Guild You

can follow either me or Jess or our

other project lead Gwen on Twitter.

And we'll be about it over the

next week or, and into perpetuity.

Yeah, Probably longer.

And yeah, if you

go to uncagedanthology.com, we'll

have a link to it there as well.

mind's still kind of blown with

all of the amazing artists and

writers that we got this who want

to be a part of our little book.

Yeah.

Especially some of the artists I'm like,

what do you mean you on Baldur's Gate?

Yeah.

We

What do you mean?

gate artists.

We have, one of our writers is an original

Fallout dev and writes for Star Trek.

And I'm like, what are you doing here?

Well, that's like

when I, I didn't realize Ivory wrote

for Larry and on divinity to handy,

they wrote an adventure for us

We were like, are you

sure you mean to be here?

You do know it's revenue share.

Are you, sure?

. every adventure got their

own border and that was,

and David did it.

that was

me.

man.

Yeah.

is no stock art in this book.

It's it's all David.

Incredible.

Incredible.

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