Join Nathan Dunleavy on this episode of Yappy Hour as he welcomes Carrie-Anne Selwyn, the founder of Canine Hoopers World. Discover how the inclusive and low-impact dog sport, Hoopers, is transforming the way dog guardians connect with their pets.

Carrie-Anne shares her journey from pet dog trainer to international Hoopers advocate, the benefits of Hoopers for all breeds and ages, and how anyone can get started with minimal equipment. Whether you’re looking for a fun activity, a confidence builder for reactive dogs, or a new way to bond with your pup, this episode is packed with insights and practical advice.

Listen in to learn how Hoopers can be practised casually at home or competitively, and how it fosters trust, focus, and teamwork between dogs and their guardians.

Tune in now to find out why Hoopers is the perfect sport for every dog, no matter their size, age, or ability!

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Welcome to the Yappy Hour, powered

by Yappily the podcast for dog lovers

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who want to better understand and

connect with their four-legged friends.

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I'm your host Nathan Dunlevy, and today we

are diving into one of the most excitable

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and accessible dog sports out there.

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Hoopers.

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My guest is Carrie Ann Selwyn,

the founder of Canine Hoopers

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World, a platform dedicated to

making hoopers a fun and inclusive

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activity for dogs and their humans.

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In this episode, we explore why hoopers

is the perfect sport for all breeds.

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Ages and abilities, how it strengthens

the bond between dogs and their

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guardian guardians, and how you can

get started even in your own backyard.

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Whether you've got a high

energy pup, a senior dog, or

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just want to try something new.

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This episode is packed with

inspiration and practical advice.

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So grab a cup of tea, settle

in, and let's get started.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Welcome back to the Yappy

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Hour, powered by Yappily.

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I'm your host, Nathan Dunleavy,

and I'm so excited to bring

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you another episode today.

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Even more exciting that we've got the

Queen of Sparkle herself, Carrie Anne

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Salwyn, from Canine Hoopers World.

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I'm so excited to have Carrie on today

it's going to be such a fun episode.

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So Carrie Anne, welcome to the Appy Hour.

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As I've said, I'm so excited

to chat with you today.

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How are you doing?

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: am super.

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I'm really good today.

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Thank you very much.

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How are you?

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I

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Wow, I've had a few tech

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gremlins today and me and tech.

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Do not go well.

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Give me people in dogs

any day, but give me tech.

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I was recording with Dr.

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Conor Brady this morning and it

was all going a bit Pete Tong.

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But we've man, I've been on with Rosie

Robinson the last hour and a half from

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Yappily trying to get this sorted.

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So, so far, so good.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: mean, I

feel like you've invited a

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chaos goblin onto your podcast.

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So this is possibly why everything's

going a little bit wrong.

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Harry's

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Right.

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We'll see how we get on anyway.

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So Carrie, is it Carrie Anne?

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Carrie, what do you prefer?

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: fine.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Carrie, right.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: but

we'll just go with Harry.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Carrie,

for those who might not be familiar

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with Hoopers, I dunno how, can you give

us a quick overview of what it is and

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how it differs from other dog sports?

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Like agility?

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: So Hoopers is a

It's a sport but it's an activity.

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The reason I love Hoopers is that

all the dogs can get involved.

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So it is a series of obstacles and the

dogs navigate a course and I bet people

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are thinking this sounds like agility.

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The difference with Hoopers,

they're are no jumps.

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no kind of leaving the

floor type obstacles.

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Everything is either they run through it,

they run past it, or they run onto it.

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So from that point of

view, it's lower impact.

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If you watch Viper, Viper makes it

look very exciting and fast, but the

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dogs don't have to go fast to do it.

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Vee's been doing, so Viper is my Malinois

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

I was about to say that.

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Yeah.

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Viper.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: she has

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Wow.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: introduced to

the hoops and the kind of equipment

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we use since she was about eight,

nine weeks old, just as stuff.

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my old dog, who's now 13, with one eye

and a bit of arthritis and not many teeth

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left, also still plays a bit as well.

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So I have kind of the two extremes

of dog in, size, and energy levels.

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The SAS level is

identical in both of them.

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But the thing I love with Heepers

is just all the dogs can do it

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and you don't need loads and loads

of room to practice bits at home.

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You can practice bits in your living room.

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So

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Absolutely love that.

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So we'll be learning a little bit more

about that as we go through this episode.

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So Carrie, what inspired you to create

Canine Hoopers World and bring this sport,

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this activity to more dog guardians?

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: So for me, I

Discovered this sport back in like

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2017, I think it was that I first

kind of went, Oh, what's this thing?

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: It looked cool.

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And then I did a few instructor courses

and I found that they were quite tailored

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to people that were already doing agility.

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And coming from the pet dog world,

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: I didn't

have an agility background.

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So I wanted to create a course

dog trainers so they could

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teach it to their clients.

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Feeling like they had to be a

sport dog handler, you know, I

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: be more accessible.

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And the best way to make Saint more

accessible is to teach trainers

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how to teach their clients.

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Because rather than me teaching 15,

20 people a week, if I can teach.

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instructors then they can teach

20 people a week and actually now

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we've got over 600 instructors

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

That's amazing.

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That's

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: loads of

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: amazing.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: access to hoopers.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Yeah, I absolutely love that.

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I love that it's so worldwide.

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So we're going to be moving

on to our next section then.

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So, which is all about why Hoopers, the

benefits for dogs and their guardians.

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One of the things I love about

Hoopers is that it's so accessible.

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We've mentioned that already.

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So just touching on the

accessibility side of things.

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Why do you think?

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It's such an inclusive sport

compared to other activities.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: I feel like not

only about the dogs kind of thing, but

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also thinking about the handler side of

it, because Hoopers, you can distance

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handle, which is kind of the big goal with

Hoopers, or you can run with the dogs.

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So if you have little younglings

come to class that want to run

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around with the dogs, that's cool.

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If you've got adults that care

to run, they can also do that.

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I mean, I don't care for running,

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

The same.

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I

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: And I love the

fact that if you've got handlers.

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are maybe wheelchair users or to use

a walking aid of some description.

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They can still be handling

Hoopers without worrying about

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having to keep up with the dog.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

love that.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn:

have fun with their dog.

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Also, we've had some dogs that are

actually assistance dogs for wheelchair

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users that kind of use Hoopers as a bit of

an outlet for them to do things as a team.

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without them being close to the chair

and working closely with the handler.

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It gets them to kind of work away and

maybe tap into some of the genetic

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things that we've bred the gun

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: herders

to do for years and years,

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: know, because

we have a lot of retrievers and

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Labradors that are assistance dogs.

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And actually.

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They're working close to their

handlers a lot, whereas when we look

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at what they were originally bred for,

they're designed to kind of work away.

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So Hooper's is quite a nice bridge

between that genetic need and what the

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handler is physically capable of as well.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Yeah, absolutely love that.

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No, it's great that

everyone can get involved.

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So many people assume that dog sports are

only for your high energy working breeds,

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but Hooper seems to be for everyone.

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So what makes it so different?

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: I mean, I started

originally with my Chihuahua, so

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Yes, I've heard this story

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because I've got three chihuahuas.

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So yeah, love it.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Lynx is kind of

the reason I went, Oh my God, I love

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this thing because I was looking for

an activity to do with her and she

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does a bit of tricks and she does a

bit of this and she does a bit of that.

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But when we found Hoopers,

it was like it just clicked.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh,

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: was

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: click and

we went, thing's fun together.

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And one of my favorite photos is of the

first workshop I did with me and Minks,

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and you can just see in one little

image, how much fun we are having.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Oh, really?

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I love that.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: big thing for me.

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It's about building trust and

teamwork with you and your dog.

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And that's what owning

a dog is about, right?

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Trust and teamwork.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah,

so you've got from the size of a Chihuahua

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all the way up to a German Shepherd and a

Malinois, you know, all shapes and sizes.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: had Danes doing it.

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Irish Wolfhounds, Bulls, Dr.

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Bordeaux's.

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Like it's not a size this sport.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

No, good.

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Oh, I love that the little

Chihuahuas got involved.

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So how does participating in

Hoopers strengthen that bond

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between a dog and their guardian?

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: So, for me, doing

anything with your dog is going to

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strengthen your relationship, right?

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: that bang on about

training, they think about training as

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always being obedient stuff, but actually

it can just be doing some tricks, it

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can be doing a bit of enrichment stuff,

it can just be You and your dog hanging

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out together, but I think more and

more people are getting dogs that were

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previously designed to do working stuff.

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Like I said, you know, the gundogs,

the working breeds, but also a lot of

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these cross breeds that we get, you

know, the kind of designer breeds.

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Think of, prime example

would be a Cockapoo.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yes.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: a Cocka

and a Poodle, both of which

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are technically working breeds,

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: and then go, Oh,

can you live in my house and be a pet?

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I mean, yes, but,

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

But there's going to come all this.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: dogs and the

handlers a way of doing some work

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together whilst having fun as well.

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And because it's something that

you can do at home in your garden

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and practice, it's not like you can

only do it once a week at training.

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You can do a little bit every day.

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I mean, this morning, Viper

hasn't been walked today.

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We've had a training day.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Why?

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: we did a

bit of hoopers in the garden.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Yeah, and it's been nice,

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it's been nice weather down

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: it's a

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

here in Southampton.

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Has it been nice where you are?

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: It has.

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The bottom of London has actually had

some sun today, which is a lovely thing.

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So, you know, typical Brits, right?

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We're already talking

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah,

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: and

we're not even 10 minutes in.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: it's

funny because I went past earlier at like

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a park and people were out sunbathing.

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I'm thinking the sun's out, but

it's bloody freezing, bit of sun

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and then us Brits are like, ah,

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Show me you're

British without telling me you're British.

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Sun comes out, so do the legs.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: on earth?

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Sun's out, guns out for a

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lot of them down this way.

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That's true.

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Is that viper with you?

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I can see the pointy ears.

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That'd be

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: oh yeah, you can

see them in the back of the flyer park.

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Do you want to come and say hi?

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She's

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh,

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: hello.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

yeah, we're saying hello.

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Oh, she's absolutely stunning.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: She,

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Dunnan, look at

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn:

biased, but she is pretty.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

She is absolutely stunning.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Yes,

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Brilliant.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: boy.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

And I think I heard you say as

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well, that you started doing

Hoobers in your garage at one point.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Oh

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

know, so like from a space perspective.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: when

it was freezing cold

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: news flash,

Chihuahuas don't do cold.

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It's one of the reasons I like them

as a breed because they just don't

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do, they don't do rain, they don't do

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: No,

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: like,

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

they don't.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: I concur.

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And with Minx, yeah, I had like a

little area of the garage set up

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where I just had like a hoop and a

barrel just to practice some like

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: just

to build up on that.

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We call it like a commitment to object.

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So the dog having value in.

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The hoop.

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So hoop value, barrel value,

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: hoop is

really a teeny tiny little thing.

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It's only kind of a couple

of centimeters wide.

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So for the dog to be able to be

precise enough to find that obstacle,

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they need to understand what it is.

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So just doing loads of reps of one

hoop is how we build that and how

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we start building up the distance

handling and stuff like that.

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All

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: stuff is just

foundations that's done really well.

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So

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

I love that.

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So yeah, you can use your garden, use your

garage, you don't need loads of space.

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So moving on to our next section,

which is all about how Hoopers

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support dogs emotionally and mentally.

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We often hear about the physical

benefits of dog sports, but

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how does Hoopers support dogs

emotionally and mentally, Carrie?

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: for me,

it's A big confidence builder.

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So Minx is Jenny.

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Minx can be quite worried by other dogs.

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She's been charged out a few

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh,

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: she, she's tiny.

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You know, she, I mean, in

Chihuahua world, she's massive.

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She's five kilos,

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: okay.

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A bit like mine.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: dog world, right?

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She's big.

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Most people's Chihuahuas

are like two, three kilos.

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So I've,

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

teacup ones.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Chihuahua,

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

So far I've got chunky ones.

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That's

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Finding an

activity she could do where she

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felt comfortable and safe working

around other dogs was really cool.

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Now,

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: lovely.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: this is where I

need to kind of hold myself together

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because the boy's no longer with me,

but my main competition boy Dodge,

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Shepherds

like patterns, shepherds like

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predictability, and Dodge had

very big emotions in the world.

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He had some physical and arguably some

mental glitches going on, God love him.

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And Hoopers was something that we

could do and he could work and it was

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just a fun thing for me and him and

the thing I loved for doing Hoopers

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with him is it was just me and him.

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All the other stuff goes away, all that.

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My dog needs space.

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My dog, you know, is reactive.

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My dog has big emotions, all that

stuff with comes as an owner.

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I'm like having a dog that is

like that because owning a dog

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with issues, glitches, however you

want to phrase it is exhausting.

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being able to do an activity with

that dog was just so much fun.

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And just loved it.

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And one of the things, That I think was

a really cool achievement with Dodge, not

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just our competition achievements because

he won leagues, he won competitions

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like he did really well, also if I

was judging friends could handle him

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Oh, good.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: working with

other people doing that assignment.

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For me, that screams confidence

because a dog that isn't comfortable

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isn't going to work for someone else.

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And I'm not saying that every dog should

just go up to anyone and work, but the

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people that were in his circle, would

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

a circle of trust.

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Yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Exactly that.

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So

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: for me, Hoopers

has been an amazing outlet as an owner

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that has a dog with big emotions.

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It's been a brilliant thing to play

with my tiny dog that frankly didn't

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really want to do much training of any

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

They're just lapdogs.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Right, but

for it's been a brilliant game to

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play while she's growing up and

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: maybe she shouldn't

be doing as much as she feels she can

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in terms of development because Malinois

don't come with self preservation button.

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This, app was not

downloaded into the system.

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So being able to say to her, well,

look, rather than you jumping on top of

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the garden storage area, has happened.

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Why don't we try running through some

hoops around some barrels instead?

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: for her, she plays

hoopers and goes, I've done some work.

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I'm tired because as much as it's you

as a team, the dog is still having to

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think and process what they're doing.

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It's

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: next to you, with

you telling them every single thing.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: It is when the

dog becomes competent in what they're

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doing, can literally shut up and watch

them work, which, that's really cool.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: yeah,

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: you forget that

you're actually meant to be steering,

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you're like, oh, shit, cue, sorry yeah,

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: yeah,

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: goes wrong, but

that's also part of the fun, is that

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even if the dog goes wrong, they

don't know they've gone wrong, and

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you're just having fun together.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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I bet cause obviously they've probably

quite got a lot of energy, haven't they?

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So it's probably, yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: yeah, I'm gonna say

that if, if you have a spare few hours a

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day to mentally and physically work your

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: know what, yeah.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

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Cause you know, got to burn

off a lot of that energy.

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So get her using her brain.

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So for nervous, sensitive,

anxious dogs, how can Hoopers be a

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confidence building activity carry?

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: It becomes a pattern.

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It becomes something that's predictable.

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So once they understand what the

equipment means, once they've got that

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equipment value that I spoke about

earlier, they go, Oh, this thing.

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you can start off in your

garden and then maybe.

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You go to a field and try it.

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Maybe you go to a relative's garden

and try it, know, and being able to do

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something with the dog that's predictable

in different environments is a great

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way of building that dog's confidence.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Yeah, pretty.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: me, I think the

environmental side can kind of come

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into it and actually once you are able

to go to competitions, a lot of the

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Hoopers competitions are set up for dogs

that do need a bit of space, those dogs

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that do wear those yellow ribbons that

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: need a little bit more

room, a little bit more understanding.

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Some of the shows are going to be

a big agility show, so they may not

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be appropriate, but some of them.

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Maybe a single ring in an indoor

arena where the dogs kind of

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secured in on three sides.

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So actually, that sort of

environment for dogs that find

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the environment a lot to take in

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: brilliant way to

kind of start getting them into the

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world and competing they're doing

something that they understand.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Yeah, definitely.

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Are you going to be

competing with Viper or like?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn:

literally counting down

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Chomping at the bit.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: the weeks because

we are at the point now where we are

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weeks away from being able to compete.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: wow.

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Okay.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: a lot of the

sports, some of them start at 12 months,

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yes.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: because we

start officially at 15 months.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: I've been taking

her with me when I've been judging

426

and testing my courses with her.

427

And she's already, like,

having so much fun with

428

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

She's ready.

429

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: some of the

other judges have let me try their

430

courses, which has been really nice.

431

And she'll finish the run

and I'll give her her toy.

432

run up to the judge to give

them the toy to play with.

433

She's just like, we did a thing.

434

We love it.

435

So,

436

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh,

437

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: I'm literally, like

excited and I know some people are gonna

438

Possibly criticize that because they

may think that i'm doing it too early

439

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: right.

440

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: for her It's not too

441

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: No.

442

Yeah.

443

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: she's probably done

about half an hour's hooper training

444

a week roughly You know, obviously

sometimes we've done workshops and we've

445

done stuff that's a little bit more,

but in terms of kind of over training

446

stuff, really don't think we have.

447

I think because everything is on the

ground and she understands the game, you

448

can go on any of my social media and see

her journey and how she's progressing,

449

You just see a dog that's having fun.

450

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

451

That's the important thing.

452

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: She'll

come and get cross at me.

453

She's like, wait, what are you doing?

454

Sort your shit, mama.

455

Come on, let's do the thing.

456

So it's just us having fun together.

457

And the other thing that's been really

interesting with her journey is we've

458

started to dabble a little bit in agility.

459

And who has has been a cool foundation

460

Agility training, because.

461

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: I bet.

462

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: I mentioned

this not running thing agility.

463

Allegedly you're meant to do the running

thing a little bit more in agility.

464

Now I'm never going to be one of those

handlers that's sprinting like an a

465

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Say.

466

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: y part of my dog.

467

Like,

468

it's not and

469

going through tunnels because

470

She can do it with hoops.

471

And if you go onto my social media

we had a training session with

472

some of her siblings last week

473

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Oh, okay.

474

Don't eat it.

475

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: music of me

just stood still while she's just

476

running in a circle doing jumps.

477

I wasn't telling her to do anything.

478

She was just running around in a

circle doing jumps because it was fun.

479

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Yeah, I think that's what comes down

480

to, as long as the dog's having fun.

481

How do you

482

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: have

fun when you're training.

483

If

484

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah!

485

Carrie-Anne Selwyn:

you're not doing it right.

486

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Now,

I've always said that when I was doing

487

in person training, it's got to be fun.

488

The moment it's not fun, then,

right, you need to move on.

489

So, how do you ensure that Hoopers

remains a low pressure, positive

490

experience for all dogs carry?

491

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Oh, oh,

this might get controversial.

492

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Oh, I like that though.

493

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: me, I have been

big, big advocate for baseless hoops.

494

When hoopers first started,

there was a base on the floor.

495

Baseless hoops were introduced.

496

God, it was.

497

the pandemic.

498

Now.

499

I've only trained Viron basis hoops.

500

I would only run Dodge on basis hoops.

501

MX prefers basis hoops.

502

I watch clients, dogs that

I've trained on both, and the

503

dogs just have a smoother run

504

Bars.

505

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Okay.

506

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: people will argue

that it's just pole on the floor.

507

There have been injuries.

508

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh.

509

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: faster dogs actually

because they're not always watching

510

where their feet go and they've either

Stood on a bar and said I've watched

511

Collies literally flick a hoop in the air

512

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Oh, gosh, right.

513

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: I've seen dogs Slip on

a base bar and I've seen dogs catch feet

514

on a base bar So for me basis hoops are

a big way of keeping it more accessible.

515

Also, when it comes to course design,

making sure that there's no tight

516

turns, there's no of things that

are requiring the dog to do fast

517

lead leg changes or stuff like that.

518

Some of the organizations

do allow hoop slaloms.

519

I don't like them.

520

I will not train them.

521

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

What is it?

522

Carrie-Anne Selwyn:

part of Hooper's World.

523

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: What?

524

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: are not

dissimilar to a Weave in Agility.

525

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Right.

526

Okay.

527

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: The dog

528

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

It's not heard that word before.

529

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: things.

530

Yeah, exactly, because I don't

have them in Hooper's World.

531

As far as I'm concerned, not a thing.

532

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Right.

533

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: I

do not care for them.

534

The other thing that we see in some of

the courses in of Scandinavia and those

535

areas Germany is the dog going round,

round a barrel and back through a hoop.

536

Now, we do that at the start when

we're first teaching the dogs

537

equipment, but we kind of come

off of it quite quickly in the UK.

538

I think part of the reason for

that is in the countries where you

539

see it more commonly in courses,

the course distances are bigger.

540

The dog has eight to ten meters

to go from a hoop to a barrel

541

back to a hoop, a big distance.

542

If the dog only has five meters,

obviously a tiny dog like Minx is

543

going to find that relatively easy.

544

A dog that's bigger and faster like Viper,

that's a very difficult thing to do.

545

Can she do it?

546

Yes, would I want her to be doing

it once they're picking up speed?

547

No,

548

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Aye.

549

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: we did it when

she was younger and learning how to do

550

things, but now she's doing it faster.

551

The only time I would do a barrel wrap

basically is if we were working 8 to 10

552

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Okay.

553

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: for me, that's

another thing that I hope judges

554

consider when their course designing.

555

I think in general because

courses should be flowing.

556

There shouldn't be tight turns.

557

That's how we keep it

accessible for more dogs

558

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Brilliant.

559

Love that.

560

Thank you so much.

561

So moving on to our next section, which

is all about getting started and what

562

pet parents, dog guardians need to know.

563

So if someone is completely

new to Hoopers, what's the

564

best way to get started?

565

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: So have a look and see

if there is a Hoopers instructor near you.

566

the canine Hoopers world instructors

that are listed on our website are

567

the ones that offer the Hoopers

awards, can work your way through.

568

progress awards with your dogs

and get pretty ribbons without

569

having to go to competition.

570

But there are of instructors and

places that are teaching Hoopers

571

all over the UK, Australia,

572

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yes.

573

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Canada,

Europe, Africa, like it's spreading

574

to so many continents now,

575

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

That's amazing.

576

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: much it's spreading

and I think speak to local clubs because

577

if they're not training hoopers yet,

if they know there's an interest then

578

they might want to take the course.

579

Also tell them Canine Hoopers

World do an instructor course.

580

If you are in an area where there are

no instructors, there's no access, do

581

have a Hoopers at Home online course

582

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Oh, okay.

583

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: on the

Canine Hoopers World website.

584

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Brilliant.

585

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: So if you go onto

the website and go into I can't remember

586

it's either courses or shop also you can

do progress awards with your dog so they

587

are called the achievement awards on the

website and you work through the exercises

588

with your dog so if you've maybe started a

little bit with hoopers with your dogs and

589

you think oh I don't know what to do next.

590

I don't know what exercises do.

591

You can sign up for the achievement awards

online and work your dogs through those.

592

I've also get pretty ribbons for in post.

593

So

594

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

That's nice.

595

So what equipment do people need to

practice at home and are there any

596

simple exercises they could try?

597

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: if you can

kind of make a couple of hoops,

598

that's a good place to start.

599

Now the hoops.

600

are the way we make them when we're kind

of doing them for at home is plumbing

601

pipe under floor heating pipe is our

little secret weapon because it holds its

602

shape but a hula hoop with a coat hanger

undone will also help hold the hoop shape

603

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: okay.

604

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: worrying about

getting any underfloor heating pipe.

605

so you want some upright bits,

which is plumbing pipe you can

606

get at any good hardware store.

607

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Hmm.

608

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: feet on both sides

and then a hoop that makes the arch.

609

So I believe they are 50 or 60

centimeters wide at the bottom

610

and then they're between 80.

611

and a meter high at the top.

612

So you make yourself an arch,

then you have barrels, laundry

613

baskets, pop up garden waste bins,

614

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

615

You can get them from

Screwfix, the pop up garden.

616

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: prefix if you're in

Australia Bunnings, if you're in America

617

Home Depot, like basically any hardware

store will sell pop up garden bins and

618

the pipe you need for making the hoops.

619

You can get them from,

620

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm.

621

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: you don't

need loads of equipment.

622

And the

623

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: No.

624

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: love is that

you can store it in a small area.

625

You don't really need to worry about

tunnels and maps and stuff at home.

626

As long as you've got hoops

and the barrels to practice.

627

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm.

628

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: That's bundles,

and if you just have one heap and

629

one barrel, you can sit on a chair

in your living room, get two little

630

bowls out, and the dog just goes from

one bo Oh, sorry, Viper's getting

631

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Don't apologize.

632

Mine are always like that.

633

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: to another.

634

Via the hoop.

635

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm.

636

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: And

637

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Brilliant.

638

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: how you build the

639

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Is that simple?

640

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: play the game.

641

Super simple.

642

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

643

That's what people like, isn't that?

644

Yeah.

645

Brilliant.

646

Yeah.

647

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: can go, Right,

the dog has to go through the hoop.

648

I need to say yes as the

dog goes through the hoop.

649

And I give them a cookie on the floor.

650

Like, that's really easy to see, right?

651

The dog goes through the hoop, you

say yes, the dog gets a cookie.

652

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Hmm.

653

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: That's,

that's pretty simple.

654

It's easier than explaining

how to make a cup of tea.

655

I

656

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

I may find that difficult.

657

I love it.

658

She's giving you a wash.

659

Normally my I've got an

essay dog and he's got.

660

Normally he's sat on me, but

he's actually just settled at me.

661

And then his sister, she's very needy.

662

Typical poodles drama

queens like their dad.

663

They just, you know,

want all the attention.

664

So they normally take turns of

setting up in my lap, so I don't

665

mind dogs making appearance.

666

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: be fair, if,

if you never ever want to go to the

667

bathroom on your own again, get mum.

668

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Get out of the set.

669

I can't even shower.

670

Valkyrie dogs.

671

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: the

drama is strong as well.

672

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Oh, okay.

673

Right, we've got another drama.

674

You call me a drama llama.

675

We've got another one there.

676

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Massively, massively.

677

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

with that.

678

Oh, actually, I might have to show you my

llama, because you're going to love it.

679

Before we come off this call, I'm

going to go off camera and show you

680

my llama, because it is sparkly.

681

As well.

682

And I love

683

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: drama

684

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yes.

685

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: It's

686

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

I'm gonna Let me grab it now.

687

Hold on.

688

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: That's it.

689

Nathan's getting it.

690

Nathan is going to show me his

691

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Here is

the sparkly, secret, rainbow, dra llama.

692

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Oh my goodness.

693

Wow.

694

I mean,

695

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Someone got me that because you

696

called me a drama llama before, but

one of my friends called me a drama

697

llama and this is what they got me.

698

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: I mean, if the crown

fits babe, if the crown fits, right?

699

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Anyway,

I've gone off track now, but who cares?

700

Right, that's,

701

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: on a podcast

that I'm involved in and we've gone

702

off on a tangent somewhere else.

703

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

it's all good.

704

It's all good.

705

So, do dogs need prior obedience training

or can any dog give Hoopers a go?

706

Okay.

707

Yeah.

708

Hmm.

709

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: be going to a group

class, I'd probably suggest your dog being

710

able to stay with you and not run over and

say hi to all the other dogs is helpful.

711

But if you're training it at home

or one to one, then absolutely not.

712

And this is one of the other

things that's cool about Hoopers.

713

It does help with your dog's listening

skills and your communication skills.

714

Because to start with, your

dog's not going to have a weight.

715

They're not going to understand that

you're going to be a bit away from them.

716

But once you start adding those

little elements in, then if your

717

dog can do a weight in front of a

hoop, then they can do a weight.

718

While you're maybe wanting to clip

their lead on to put them back on at

719

the park or you know If your dog can go

720

A little bit of a recall, so it's

kind of a good way of cementing some

721

of those other behaviors in without

it feeling like it's obedient.

722

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Yeah, I'm not a massive fan of

723

the word obedience, but they

need to have, I like life skills,

724

maybe some basic life skills or,

725

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: I feel having

a mal, you, there is a level

726

of obedience needed because

727

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: yeah,

728

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: of self preservation.

729

you know, has to mean sit in

730

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: yeah.

731

Okay.

732

Well, but basically any, any

dog really can give it a go

733

though, is what we're saying.

734

Yeah.

735

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: percent.

736

100%

737

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Brilliant.

738

So we're going to be moving on to a

normal line of just going crazy and

739

you'll probably hear something outside.

740

Hopefully it won't pick up.

741

So our next section is all about

busting myths about Hoopers.

742

So Carrie, what are some of the

biggest myths you hear about

743

Hoopers and what's the reality?

744

Yeah.

745

Oh, okay.

746

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: sports, but I

think a big one is only Collies do it.

747

Like, no, all the dogs can do it.

748

Pollies dominate a lot of dog sports.

749

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

750

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: To be fair,

Malinois and German Shepherds

751

also dominate a lot of dog sports.

752

You don't have to have one of

those breeds to do Hoopers.

753

We have all sorts of dogs coming to play.

754

Affenpinschers,

755

Airedales, Boston Terriers.

756

Datsuns, like all, pretty much like

name a dog breed and I'm sure one of the

757

Hoopers trainers will have gone, pardon

me, one of the Hoopers trainers will

758

have gone, yeah I've taught one of those,

759

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

760

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: it's super accessible.

761

It's also quite good for the breeds

that maybe some of the more high

762

impact sports may not be physically

763

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

764

That's,

765

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: for,

766

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

that's true.

767

Yeah.

768

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: I'm phrasing that

carefully because obviously Everyone

769

knows their own dogs, but like no one

needs to see a chunky dog like trying

770

to do disc and jump in the air when they

probably aren't fit enough to do it.

771

Whereas Hoopers is quite a

good way of building a dog's

772

fitness and stamina as well.

773

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Hmm.

774

Okay.

775

So we've already touched on

this, but another myth is that

776

you need to have a big garden or

training field to get started.

777

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: No, not at all.

778

So if you've got a mat that's

about, I don't know, if you've got

779

an area that's maybe two meters by

a meter, you can train one hoop.

780

Obviously dog size dependent.

781

If you've got a tiny dog,

that's loads of room.

782

If you've got a bigger dog, you might

want a bit more room so the dog can get

783

through the hoop before it's rewarded.

784

but yeah, in terms of size, like was

working Viper literally on a five meter

785

circle this morning, just doing a bit

of a barrel and a hoop and a barrel.

786

And I had some stuff, I

spaced the obstacles out.

787

five meters apart and I managed

to get three obstacles out in

788

a little bit of grass area.

789

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm.

790

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: if you have

access then you have more room to

791

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

792

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: but you don't need

bundles of room you could do it in

793

your hallway as long as the surface

you're training on isn't slippery

794

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

795

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: don't need loads of

room you just need it to not be slippy.

796

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

That's it.

797

Not slippery.

798

Brilliant.

799

So would you say hoopers is

more fun and enriching, or is

800

it more of a competitive sport?

801

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: I think It's both.

802

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm

803

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: I

804

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Okay.

805

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: both.

806

It depends on the team doing it.

807

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

808

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: with

Minx, I did it for fun.

809

It was something we could do together.

810

With Dodge, oh my god, so competitive.

811

With Viper, I'm gonna be competitive.

812

Because, naturally, I'm

a competitive person.

813

Like,

814

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Okay.

815

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: I like Doing

sports and winning prizes and

816

that that's just my personality.

817

got lots of clients that

never ever want to compete.

818

But actually, this is why I

bought the Progress Awards in and

819

the Achievement Awards online.

820

So people that maybe didn't want to

go to a show, but maybe wanted to

821

achieve something could still do that.

822

Sign.

823

That's kind of why I

introduced those awards.

824

So people that wanted to have fun

with their dogs without having

825

to go to a competition could,

826

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Hmm.

827

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: if you

want to go and compete for your

828

dog, then absolutely you can.

829

And you'll have the best time.

830

International

831

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Okay, cool.

832

So just another question.

833

You've taught it all over

the world, haven't you?

834

Australia?

835

Yeah.

836

That's amazing that it's took you.

837

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: trainer and judge.

838

Cause I've judged in Australia as

839

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Have you?

840

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: that was super fun.

841

Yeah.

842

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

843

Whereabouts in Australia was it, Carrie?

844

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: done say we

Hoopers World have been to Perth.

845

I'm hoping that in the not

so distant future, we will be

846

hitting other parts of Australia.

847

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Oh, okay.

848

Well, I mean, I love Australia.

849

I don't know if you know, but I

met my husband there in Perth,

850

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Ooh!

851

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: And I've

got family in Perth and friends in Sydney.

852

So I was just really interested

because like, we, we love Australia.

853

We've been back a few times since we've

been married, but it's, I love it.

854

So I just wondered where you'd been.

855

I know you'd been there, but

I didn't know quite where.

856

Wow.

857

Okay.

858

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: trainers

as far over as Queensland now.

859

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Perfect.

860

Yeah.

861

Oh, okay.

862

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Hoopers Australia now

they have competitions out there as well.

863

So it's really cool.

864

Yeah.

865

So for any of the, anyone in Australia

listening, like you can access the

866

instructor course obviously online, but

there is access now to competitions and

867

other Hoopers trainers out in Oz as well.

868

So yeah, it's cool.

869

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah,

because you said that you'd like, it was

870

international, so it's, it's sort of go,

it's hitting a lot of different countries.

871

That's amazing.

872

You must be saying, right, right,

873

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: I'd

say, roughly 10 years now.

874

It's kind of, it's, it's

coming up to that decade mark.

875

It originally started in America.

876

Sharon Nelson, who sadly is

no longer on this mortal coil

877

with us invented the hoop.

878

And

879

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: right.

880

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: be

881

eternally grateful to her for up

with this little skinny obstacle that

882

has created this whole fun activity

around playing croquet with your dogs.

883

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

884

Oh, brilliant.

885

So original, originated in, in America.

886

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Yeah.

887

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Okay, perfect.

888

Carrie.

889

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: over from America

890

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Well, yeah Well,

891

Carrie-Anne Selwyn:

shouldn't say that, should I?

892

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

it's okay.

893

So actually I just want to I'm just

gonna rewind a little bit so You

894

started off as a pet dog trainer,

but what actually made you to like

895

launch Canine Hoop as well day.

896

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: So

I was teaching classes.

897

I was starting to kind of do workshops,

doing stuff with other trainers.

898

And when I discovered Hoopers, I was

just like more pet dogs need to do this.

899

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm

900

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Just

901

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: hmm

902

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: So my goal

is that pet dog trainers will be

903

teaching Hoopers rather than agility.

904

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh, okay

905

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: I know is maybe a bit

controversial, but for me, especially now

906

I'm learning about agility properly and

I'm kind of training my own dog properly.

907

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Okay

908

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: You need

a lot of specialist equipment.

909

You need to know what you're doing

and agility trained badly dangerous.

910

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: but yeah

911

Carrie-Anne Selwyn:

having dogs go over jumps.

912

and not understanding the heights of

things and just how to progress dogs

913

and the techniques that are required.

914

Whereas a dog running through a hoop, I

mean, they may catch a toe, maybe, but

915

the risk of a dog Going through a hoop as

opposed to over a jump is massively less.

916

And

917

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

918

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: just feel for

a lot of dogs that maybe don't have

919

the fitness levels to do agility

920

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm.

921

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: a lot of pet

dogs, let's face it, aren't fit.

922

They are overweight.

923

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

924

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: of times

I get told my dogs are skinny,

925

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: God.

926

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: dogs

aren't skinny, my dogs are fit,

927

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

928

They're fair.

929

Yeah.

930

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: my dogs

are the weight they should be.

931

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yes.

932

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: often are you

in a park and you see fat dogs?

933

But people see that as normal.

934

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: I know.

935

I

936

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: in general, right?

937

I mean, I'm carrying a few more pounds

938

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

was saying my, my love.

939

I'm like, yeah.

940

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: But we don't

go, Oh my God, I'm drunk because

941

you walk down the road and most

people are a similar size to us.

942

But you notice the people that

are very, very fit because they

943

stand out it's not the norm.

944

And I think it's become

the same with dogs.

945

So dogs doing hoopers is a much

better form of fitness than

946

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Hmm.

947

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: doing sports

that are going to require them to be.

948

jumping or doing lots of repetitive

body movements that they may

949

not be physically fit for.

950

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Hmm.

951

I don't know if it was you or the

other person that was interviewing on

952

the podcast, but did it, did you or

the other person just fully do only

953

Hooper's classes and nothing else?

954

That was you.

955

Yeah.

956

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: was

957

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

958

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: I took a huge

leap of faith and when I don't

959

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Hmm.

960

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: other stuff,

961

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Anymore.

962

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: I

963

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: And

you just sort of niche down to that.

964

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: oh,

I, I like super niched.

965

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Super niche.

966

Everyone goes on about niching

and you're super niche.

967

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: I super niched.

968

I like niched within a niche.

969

Like So, it's kind of, I, I feel like

you hear my name and you straight

970

away think of Hoopers without even

necessarily knowing what Hoopers is.

971

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yes.

972

Yeah.

973

You're right.

974

Okay.

975

So I went off.

976

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: all

about the brand, babe.

977

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

It is all about the brand babes.

978

Yeah.

979

I'm all about the brand.

980

So I did go off on a tangent.

981

So Carrie, if you could give pet parents,

dog guardians, one reason to try Hoopers,

982

what would that reason be, please?

983

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: It's fun.

984

Well, that

985

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

It's fun.

986

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: right

987

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

What more reasons do you need?

988

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: wasn't it?

989

It's fun.

990

Boom.

991

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

What more do I need to say?

992

You want to have fun with your dog.

993

That's what I was saying the other day.

994

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Exactly that right.

995

If, if you can do something that fulfills

your dog, mentally and physically, and

996

is fun for both of you, why wouldn't you?

997

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

998

Yeah.

999

Cause it built.

00:44:49,186 --> 00:44:51,776

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: the question

would be like, why shouldn't you,

00:44:51,940 --> 00:44:52,100

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

00:44:52,156 --> 00:44:55,056

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: like, just try it.

00:44:55,756 --> 00:44:55,946

You

00:44:56,140 --> 00:44:56,280

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: it's,

00:44:56,486 --> 00:44:57,596

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: until you've tried.

00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:58,110

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: yeah.

00:44:58,110 --> 00:45:00,980

You don't know until you try,

but it's all about building

00:45:00,980 --> 00:45:02,800

that bond, that relationship.

00:45:03,315 --> 00:45:06,695

You know, that whole sort of

connecting with your dog and yeah.

00:45:06,745 --> 00:45:07,455

Yeah, I love that.

00:45:07,615 --> 00:45:14,055

So if anyone or someone was feeling about

a bit unsure about trying a new activity

00:45:14,195 --> 00:45:16,545

with their dog, what would your advice be?

00:45:17,916 --> 00:45:18,766

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: So.

00:45:19,446 --> 00:45:24,826

Speak, speak to a local club, speak to

a local trainer come and look at the

00:45:24,826 --> 00:45:30,156

Canine Hoopers World stuff on Facebook

if you want to watch some fun training

00:45:30,176 --> 00:45:36,906

stuff Canine Hoopers World on TikTok

I'm always Viper doing stuff and it's

00:45:36,906 --> 00:45:41,876

not always Hoopers, like, it's just

Viper doing crazy Mali stuff and it's.

00:45:42,236 --> 00:45:45,606

features occasionally bless her heart,

although she's pretty much retired.

00:45:45,606 --> 00:45:51,116

She's basically a sophomore but

for me, it's, it's something

00:45:51,116 --> 00:45:52,806

that you can try at home.

00:45:52,826 --> 00:45:57,026

And as I said, if you're thinking

that you're not sure whether you'd

00:45:57,046 --> 00:46:00,936

want to go to a class and do it,

you can have a look at the online

00:46:00,936 --> 00:46:01,936

stuff and do it online with us.

00:46:02,311 --> 00:46:03,351

It's

00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:04,090

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

brilliant.

00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,310

Okay, so we've literally sailed

through this episode Carrie, so

00:46:08,310 --> 00:46:09,740

we're going to start wrapping up

00:46:10,131 --> 00:46:10,481

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: a change.

00:46:11,820 --> 00:46:13,080

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

We're going to start wrapping up the

00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,550

last sort of five minutes or so So

just a couple of final questions.

00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,600

So what's next for canine Hooper's world?

00:46:21,940 --> 00:46:23,770

Where's the sparkle going next?

00:46:23,770 --> 00:46:24,920

What, what's your plans?

00:46:24,940 --> 00:46:26,800

Any reveals for our listeners?

00:46:27,110 --> 00:46:28,340

Anything going on?

00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:31,670

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: I'm kind of

evolving the way that the instructor

00:46:31,690 --> 00:46:38,730

course is being taught, so it will

be staying online, but I'm kind

00:46:38,780 --> 00:46:42,780

of, I'm going to use one of my

favorite words now, I'm amalgamating.

00:46:43,649 --> 00:46:44,589

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Now that's a big word.

00:46:44,589 --> 00:46:47,699

I love that.

00:46:47,745 --> 00:46:48,135

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: day.

00:46:49,475 --> 00:46:54,665

I am bringing Level 1 and

Level 2 as one course.

00:46:54,765 --> 00:46:59,205

And there's going to be a lot more

Carrie Sparkle because I'm also going

00:46:59,225 --> 00:47:01,115

to be doing live coaching on Zoom.

00:47:01,545 --> 00:47:04,865

So, when you did the

instructor course online, you

00:47:04,939 --> 00:47:06,189

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

it was a while ago now.

00:47:06,398 --> 00:47:09,352

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: of set free to

work through it at your own pace,

00:47:09,429 --> 00:47:10,379

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

00:47:10,426 --> 00:47:12,845

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: want to

change it is that you're going to

00:47:12,855 --> 00:47:14,795

have 6 months to do the course.

00:47:15,289 --> 00:47:16,019

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Okay,

00:47:16,420 --> 00:47:18,180

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: you're

going to have access to me for

00:47:18,180 --> 00:47:19,890

six months to ask questions

00:47:19,989 --> 00:47:20,319

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: really?

00:47:20,890 --> 00:47:22,490

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: and

do that kind of stuff.

00:47:22,590 --> 00:47:23,310

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

That's amazing.

00:47:23,361 --> 00:47:25,321

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: like

that's the way I want to do it.

00:47:25,331 --> 00:47:33,511

So I will still be doing some in person

stuff and around, around the country to do

00:47:33,511 --> 00:47:35,341

things and maybe other countries as well.

00:47:35,411 --> 00:47:41,356

But there's going to be a lot more A

lot more Selwyn Sparkle as we call it.

00:47:41,776 --> 00:47:44,586

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Need

more, we need more Salwyn Sparkle.

00:47:45,832 --> 00:47:47,442

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: 1 needs more Selwyn.

00:47:47,792 --> 00:47:49,952

The Viper's like, I need more, you don't

00:47:49,996 --> 00:47:50,316

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah,

00:47:50,792 --> 00:47:50,962

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Sparkle.

00:47:51,752 --> 00:47:52,022

You're

00:47:52,106 --> 00:47:54,776

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: we,

we, we love the, we love the Salwyn

00:47:54,776 --> 00:47:56,316

Sparkle, so any more we can get.

00:47:56,556 --> 00:47:58,336

All right, so that's interesting.

00:47:58,756 --> 00:48:00,256

So we could see a bit more then.

00:48:00,256 --> 00:48:00,316

Mm.

00:48:00,542 --> 00:48:03,842

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: yeah, we'll

be, that's kind of how Canine

00:48:03,842 --> 00:48:05,642

Hooper's world is evolving.

00:48:05,642 --> 00:48:10,846

In terms of me I'm back

to doing Facebook Lives.

00:48:11,675 --> 00:48:13,055

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Oh, okay.

00:48:13,116 --> 00:48:14,506

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: on a Tuesday.

00:48:14,546 --> 00:48:15,096

Now,

00:48:15,745 --> 00:48:16,045

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh,

00:48:16,136 --> 00:48:16,576

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: did this

00:48:16,755 --> 00:48:17,355

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: okay.

00:48:17,556 --> 00:48:20,836

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: back on Facebook and

do my Facebook lives, and then I was on

00:48:20,846 --> 00:48:22,396

holiday for a week and then I was ill.

00:48:22,736 --> 00:48:23,066

So I

00:48:23,215 --> 00:48:23,455

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh,

00:48:23,866 --> 00:48:27,796

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: weeks, which was

rubbish, but I've just done one today

00:48:27,796 --> 00:48:30,326

before we started recording, and

00:48:30,555 --> 00:48:31,365

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: okay.

00:48:31,416 --> 00:48:34,256

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: an exciting

one, because Viper has just

00:48:34,256 --> 00:48:36,176

got her first sponsorship.

00:48:37,945 --> 00:48:38,815

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Oh, fancy.

00:48:38,815 --> 00:48:38,875

Of

00:48:38,996 --> 00:48:39,566

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: to say who?

00:48:40,005 --> 00:48:41,265

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

course you can.

00:48:42,545 --> 00:48:43,145

Yeah.

00:48:43,516 --> 00:48:49,276

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: big shout out to Good

Chaps, who are now our treat sponsors.

00:48:50,515 --> 00:48:50,815

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh

00:48:51,376 --> 00:48:54,416

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: all those

training treats we get through,

00:48:54,625 --> 00:48:55,165

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: yeah.

00:48:56,176 --> 00:48:57,306

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: we are now sponsored.

00:48:57,776 --> 00:49:01,886

But, they are doing A trainer's box.

00:49:01,886 --> 00:49:07,436

So they do small, like small packets

that you can sell onto your clients,

00:49:07,645 --> 00:49:08,035

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm,

00:49:08,036 --> 00:49:10,856

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: they're also

doing it so trainers can bulk by.

00:49:11,306 --> 00:49:15,926

So when you are using treats for

yourself in consults or in group classes,

00:49:16,190 --> 00:49:16,400

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm.

00:49:16,516 --> 00:49:21,671

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: can bulk by the treats

and no artificial colors, no additives.

00:49:23,276 --> 00:49:28,996

No nasties and the they've got a few

different types, but the ones I'm

00:49:28,996 --> 00:49:31,716

most excited about are single protein.

00:49:32,476 --> 00:49:38,776

So if you've got dogs that are maybe a bit

fussy, but also maybe have food allergies,

00:49:38,940 --> 00:49:39,390

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Hmm.

00:49:39,836 --> 00:49:41,346

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: they're

literally single protein.

00:49:41,386 --> 00:49:41,806

So they've

00:49:42,010 --> 00:49:42,950

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Oh, okay.

00:49:43,351 --> 00:49:46,041

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Buck,

venison, salmon and chicken

00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,060

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Hmm.

00:49:47,281 --> 00:49:52,441

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: sausage and

you can order a big two box of

00:49:52,570 --> 00:49:53,080

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

00:49:53,141 --> 00:49:56,581

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: value treats

at a discounted rate for trainers.

00:49:56,591 --> 00:49:57,081

So

00:49:57,180 --> 00:49:57,700

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Okay.

00:49:57,901 --> 00:50:01,291

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: anyone is interested

in that go on to the Good Chaps page.

00:50:01,370 --> 00:50:03,670

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

never heard of them, but I'm

00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,060

glad you've mentioned them.

00:50:05,286 --> 00:50:05,736

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Right.

00:50:05,766 --> 00:50:07,386

They're based in Bristol

00:50:07,660 --> 00:50:08,120

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Oh, nice.

00:50:08,696 --> 00:50:10,616

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: the

ingredients are all British.

00:50:10,876 --> 00:50:17,276

The packaging is eco friendly and they do

a range of eco friendly tug toys as well.

00:50:17,296 --> 00:50:19,586

So we're kind of supporting.

00:50:20,806 --> 00:50:23,376

the local economies,

00:50:23,610 --> 00:50:24,070

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah,

00:50:24,356 --> 00:50:27,386

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: supporting British

farmers, which is very important

00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:28,160

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yes.

00:50:28,456 --> 00:50:31,906

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: giving our dogs

really good high value treats rather

00:50:31,946 --> 00:50:38,161

than being in a panic having to get

hot dogs or treats that are full of

00:50:38,620 --> 00:50:39,130

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Crap.

00:50:39,351 --> 00:50:41,661

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Let's face it,

you probably shouldn't be eating them.

00:50:41,810 --> 00:50:42,430

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah,

00:50:42,551 --> 00:50:46,921

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: can give our dogs

really good quality reinforcement.

00:50:46,961 --> 00:50:50,381

And as we know, the more reinforcing

the reward is, the more likely the

00:50:50,381 --> 00:50:51,621

dog is to repeat the behaviour.

00:50:51,631 --> 00:50:52,361

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

that's it.

00:50:52,542 --> 00:50:54,162

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: just going

to improve your training.

00:50:54,531 --> 00:50:54,991

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Amazing.

00:50:55,041 --> 00:50:57,001

I love that she's got

her first sponsorship.

00:50:57,021 --> 00:50:58,311

Congratulations.

00:50:59,211 --> 00:50:59,631

Right,

00:51:00,707 --> 00:51:01,047

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Can I just,

00:51:01,071 --> 00:51:01,381

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: go on.

00:51:01,527 --> 00:51:02,897

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: do,

can I do another quick

00:51:03,081 --> 00:51:05,181

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: You

can do, you can do whatever you want.

00:51:05,181 --> 00:51:06,521

Antinol.

00:51:06,521 --> 00:51:07,861

No,

00:51:08,367 --> 00:51:11,567

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: so now she's

a year old, I've just started

00:51:11,567 --> 00:51:13,217

her joint supplement stuff.

00:51:13,277 --> 00:51:16,317

And I know people are probably

thinking, a year old and you're

00:51:16,317 --> 00:51:17,627

putting her on joint supplement,

00:51:18,321 --> 00:51:18,971

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

definitely.

00:51:18,981 --> 00:51:19,641

Why not?

00:51:19,947 --> 00:51:20,387

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: right?

00:51:20,417 --> 00:51:24,927

Once the dogs are a year old, and

I've done this with all of my dogs,

00:51:25,261 --> 00:51:26,051

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah.

00:51:26,287 --> 00:51:26,707

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: supplement.

00:51:26,747 --> 00:51:32,507

But having a breed of dog that does

a lot, she's very active, very wacky.

00:51:32,517 --> 00:51:33,147

She does.

00:51:33,642 --> 00:51:35,662

Lots and lots of stupid shit.

00:51:36,142 --> 00:51:38,302

I want to know her joints are

00:51:38,711 --> 00:51:40,041

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Well, it's actually still

00:51:40,051 --> 00:51:41,361

growing as well, isn't she?

00:51:41,361 --> 00:51:41,451

So.

00:51:42,482 --> 00:51:44,792

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: she's still growing

and developing and this is why we

00:51:44,792 --> 00:51:46,452

didn't start till she was a year old.

00:51:46,482 --> 00:51:50,702

But now, kind of, the development

stage is slowing and she's

00:51:50,751 --> 00:51:50,961

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm,

00:51:51,172 --> 00:51:52,302

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: do more stuff.

00:51:52,452 --> 00:51:52,642

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm,

00:51:52,723 --> 00:51:55,813

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: if you go onto

the Antenna website and use the

00:51:55,823 --> 00:52:01,063

code CHW sent me, all uppercase,

00:52:01,512 --> 00:52:01,652

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Mm.

00:52:01,843 --> 00:52:05,023

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: so K9 Hoopers

World sent me, but CHW sent me,

00:52:05,323 --> 00:52:10,603

you'll get an extra discount on top

of the discount you when you sign up.

00:52:11,152 --> 00:52:12,062

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Oh, okay.

00:52:12,222 --> 00:52:12,772

Brilliant.

00:52:12,873 --> 00:52:14,443

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: that one

comes with a discount code.

00:52:16,412 --> 00:52:17,862

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

That'll be in our show notes.

00:52:17,872 --> 00:52:18,322

Brilliant.

00:52:18,542 --> 00:52:22,152

Right, any more reveals before

we move on to our last question?

00:52:22,152 --> 00:52:22,372

Or

00:52:22,653 --> 00:52:22,833

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: I,

00:52:23,042 --> 00:52:23,312

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

anything else?

00:52:23,373 --> 00:52:26,633

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: so the main,

so World have been in partnership

00:52:26,643 --> 00:52:28,473

with Antonelle for a long time.

00:52:28,762 --> 00:52:29,362

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Love it.

00:52:29,773 --> 00:52:32,773

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: also we, we

fully support the muzzle movement.

00:52:32,813 --> 00:52:33,863

Have you had the muzzle movement

00:52:34,152 --> 00:52:35,612

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

We've had them on, we've had

00:52:35,642 --> 00:52:36,912

Clara and The Muzzle moving on.

00:52:37,513 --> 00:52:38,473

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: thought you had.

00:52:38,513 --> 00:52:41,173

I'm, because I've been away

in Ila, I'm behind on episodes

00:52:41,202 --> 00:52:42,932

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

No, no, it's all right.

00:52:43,073 --> 00:52:43,553

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: Clara had

00:52:43,702 --> 00:52:45,272

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour:

Yeah, she's amazing.

00:52:45,282 --> 00:52:46,182

Well, they're amazing.

00:52:46,963 --> 00:52:51,333

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: So, Dodge always

had a muzzle movement muzzle because he

00:52:51,603 --> 00:52:54,883

couldn't leave the house without a muzzle

because, you know, health and safety.

00:52:55,672 --> 00:52:56,362

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: yeah.

00:52:56,718 --> 00:52:58,668

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: is being

trained how to wear a muzzle

00:52:59,092 --> 00:53:00,062

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Right.

00:53:00,148 --> 00:53:04,758

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: her muzzle movement

muzzle that comes in very pretty colors

00:53:05,072 --> 00:53:06,112

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh,

00:53:06,158 --> 00:53:08,098

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: video of

that on our socials as well so.

00:53:08,452 --> 00:53:09,332

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: amazing.

00:53:09,382 --> 00:53:11,462

Yeah, love the work the

Muzzle Movement are doing.

00:53:11,462 --> 00:53:13,712

But yeah, they were, they were

literally one of my first,