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Country Fried Rock 1506: Cale Tyson's Journey From Traditional Country to Soulful Sounds
Episode 15063rd October 2025 • Country Fried Rock • Sloane Spencer
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In this episode, we’re catching up with Cale Tyson, an artist known for his classic country sound and heartfelt songwriting. He’s got an exciting year ahead. He just signed with Clubhouse Records, which means his special double EP will soon be available across the UK. At the same time, he’s gearing up to record a new country soul album at the legendary Fame Studios in Muscle Shoals, Alabama.

We dive into Cale’s journey so far, from the music that’s inspired him to how his sound has evolved over the years. He shares the stories behind his latest projects and gives us a glimpse into what’s next. It’s a conversation full of reflection, passion, and a deep love for the roots of American music.

Here's What We Wrote in 2015

Cale Tyson surprised us with news of his upcoming country soul debut album, recording this spring at FAME Studio in Muscle Shoals, Alabama. His two recent EPs took him to traditional country music, cementing his transition from Texas indie folk to Nashville. After straddling the bubble of Belmont and real-life working musicians, Tyson is ready to find his voice in the coming year.

Show Notes

  • We dive into Cale Tyson’s journey as a country artist, tracing how his sound has grown from folk-inspired beginnings to a more traditional country style.
  • He talks about albums like High on Lonesome, which reflect his love for classic country and his desire to channel the spirit of legends like Ray Price.
  • Cale opens up about his next big move: recording a country soul album at the legendary Fame Studios in Muscle Shoals, Alabama.
  • This upcoming project is a big step for him, as he experiments with fuller arrangements, including horns and strings, a noticeable shift from his earlier, more stripped-down work.
  • It’s a moment of artistic growth, and Cale shares what’s inspiring this new direction and how he’s approaching the creative process.

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Chapters

  • 00:02 - Cale Tyson's Musical Journey
  • 03:56 - Transitioning to Nashville: Cale Tyson's Journey
  • 08:49 - The Evolution of a Music Career
  • 11:00 - New Collaborations and Upcoming Tours
  • 15:08 - Discussing Upcoming Album and Recording Plans
  • 19:34 - The Rise of Doug Segers: A Nashville Story

Takeaways

  • In this episode, we sit down with Cale Tyson to talk about his journey as an artist and where his music is headed next.
  • Cale's got a big year coming up. He’s getting ready to release a new album and dive into some exciting new projects.
  • One of the big highlights? He’s heading to the legendary Fame Studios in Muscle Shoals to record a country soul record.
  • With help from Clubhouse Records, his music will soon reach even more listeners across the UK, expanding his international audience.
  • He looks back on how his sound has shifted over time: starting out more folky, then leaning into a traditional country vibe that really feels like home.
  • Cale also talks about how much he values collaboration, especially getting to play and record with some of Nashville’s most talented musicians.

Mentioned in this Episode

  • Clubhouse Records
  • Fame Studios
  • Teespring
  • Krall SP Base Press
  • Johnny Appleseed
  • Schematic Studio
  • Prater Day
  • Bandit Brand

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Transcript

Speaker A

00:00:00.080 - 00:01:32.150

This week on Country Fried Rock, we're talking with Cale Tyson. With a couple of very traditional country eps under his belt, he's got an exciting year in store.

After signing with Clubhouse Records for UK distribution, our Euro friends can look for a special double EP album release sometime in the next year. While here in the States, Cale is getting ready to head to the noted Fame Studios in Muscle Shoals, Alabama to record a country soul record.

He's already released a couple of teaser videos and we're looking forward to talking with Cale Tyson today on Country Fried Rock. We really appreciate your support for Country Fried Rock.

Every so often we offer a limited edition T shirt only on sale for three weeks and when they're gone, they're gone forever. Our brand new design is a spark plug with a very small Country Fried Rock logo.

On sale now for three weeks only@teespring.com Country FriedRock 4 it's the limited edition T shirt number four designed by Skillet Gilmore, noted musician and designer with Krall SP Base Press. They're super soft, women's kids v neck hoodie, long sleeve and they're all on sale right now for three weeks only.

Teespring.com country friedrock4 get yours before it's gone forever. My guest today on Country Fried Rock is Kale Tyson with a brand new, well, not so much brand new. It's my fault.

I dropped the ball and didn't return the email. But it's a fantastic record. Cheater's Wine. Welcome.

Speaker B

00:01:32.310 - 00:01:33.270

Hey, how's it going?

Speaker A

00:01:33.430 - 00:01:41.990

Fantastic. So I've been listening to your music, I guess since High on Lonesome was when I first became familiar with you. What took you to Nashville?

Speaker B

00:01:42.630 - 00:02:34.000

Basically I grew up in Fort Worth, Texas for the most part and then I went to college for a year.

I wanted to go down to Austin to go to school down there, didn't get accepted and then ended up going to SMU in Dallas, started getting into the music scene there and I had a friend who had moved to Nashville and you know, I was telling him kind of the things with the music scene there versus what I wanted to do and wasn't really happy with everything that was going on. And he was like, man, you should come, come out here, come out to Nashville. There's Belmont University here.

You can go there and finish your degree and everything and, you know, take music more seriously. So yeah, I ended up transferring to Belmont and finished my degree here.

And the funny thing about that was the guy who had convinced me to come out here, he moved back to Fort Worth, like, a month before I moved out here. I moved out here and knew. Knew nobody.

Speaker A

00:02:34.160 - 00:02:35.040

Oh, my goodness.

Speaker B

00:02:35.040 - 00:02:35.520

Yeah.

Speaker A

00:02:35.600 - 00:02:37.120

So Belmont is pretty intense.

Speaker B

00:02:37.600 - 00:03:55.650

Yeah, it was.

You know, I got a music business degree, and I quickly realized that, you know, it took me maybe a year of going to school and doing internships that I was like, you know, I don't really want to be in the music business on the business side, per se. I couldn't do both the creative and the business aspects of it.

But the cool thing about it was the school taught me so much about things I needed to be doing as an artist that I would have never found out that early on, as far as pros, as far as, you know, publishing and all sorts of stuff. Another cool thing about it was just I met a lot of the people that I. That I still play with today and made a lot of great friends there.

And, yeah, it was a good school. It was a good, good experience for me. Yeah. I mean, and I had never experienced that level of competition either.

I mean, well, just Nashville in general, but, you know, the kind of thing with Belmont that I managed to get away from. Everyone talks about the Belmont bubble. While you're going to school there, you can get so involved with the music scene.

Just the Belmont to forget about, you know, the whole community in Nashville as the whole city. So when I moved to Nashville, I lived off campus originally, and, I mean, the whole time I had a house here.

And so I think that was really good for me, to actually be able to never, never fall into that bubble. And it was always there, but it was friends with people that, you know, didn't necessarily go to school, and so it's good.

Speaker A

00:03:55.650 - 00:03:56.170

Hey, y'.

Speaker B

00:03:56.170 - 00:03:56.210

All.

Speaker A

00:03:56.210 - 00:04:10.370

This is Sloan Spencer, the host of Country Fried Rock. We've had an incredible year with more people finding us on the radio and our podcast than we ever imagined. Thank you all so much.

Careful what you wish for. You just might get it.

Speaker B

00:04:10.370 - 00:04:13.570

Hey, this is Kale Tyson, and you're listening to Country Fried Rock.

Speaker A

00:04:13.810 - 00:04:22.020

When you're out of school and you started doing your own thing, you talk about, you know, you meet people and they're your friends, and that's who you call in to help you when you're wanting to record. How did that develop for you?

Speaker B

00:04:22.580 - 00:06:23.550

So basically, the first kind of group of people I was playing with were a couple of them were kids from Belmont that I went to school with some of my first friends in town. And then at that time, I was doing more kind of a folky, indie rock kind of thing. Not so Much country, but it was all leading that way.

I had a show at my house one time, and this band came from Boston. They all went to Berkeley. A lot of them did. And this guy came down and was playing pedal steel with them.

And I had never played with a pedal steel player before, but I was fascinated by it. And he told me, you know, I'm thinking about moving to Nashville in, like, a couple months.

I'll reach out to you once I get there, and we should play together. I was like, yeah, man, that would be amazing. So, I mean, this is way back. This is probably four years ago or so.

And I had a Craigslist ad out at the time that was just sitting out on Craigslist and said, you know, looking for a pedal steel player. And he reached out to me, and I was like, brett, like, you know, it's me, KO we met. You know, come. Come play pedal steel with me.

So, yeah, he's been playing with me ever since. And then the rest of the guys just been, you know, part of the scene that I've just come to know.

And, you know, I play with a lot of different players, too, for certain gigs, so it's. It's not really a totally set band anyway, so it's a great, great little mix.

That's another really cool thing about living here is you get the opportunity to play with some of the just insanely good players. I never would have even imagined I could play with.

Like, I've been doing this downtown gig two or three times a month, this place called the Acme, and I had a guy filling in for Brett on pedal steel named Pete Fay. He's played with all sorts of people.

I needed a bass player for a gig, so I reached out to Pete, and I was like, pete, you know, do you have any bass players in mind that we could use for this gig? And he's like, yeah, give this guy Brad a call. It's called Brad Albin. And I call him, and he's like. He's like, yeah, yeah, I can play.

I was like, yeah, just making sure, you know, that, you know, like, the whole classic country thing that we kind of. You know, we do a lot of covers from the 50s through the 70s and just making sure you'd be okay with that.

He's like, yeah, I think I should be okay with that. I play with the Time Jumpers every Monday night. Oh, my God. Okay. Yeah.

Speaker A

00:06:23.870 - 00:06:25.710

Sorry. My foot tastes really good right here.

Speaker B

00:06:25.950 - 00:06:32.190

Yeah. Yeah. So it's. I mean, it's just been killer to be able to Just be on a stage with those same people.

Speaker A

00:06:32.830 - 00:06:42.190

So you did the initial EP release and then what changed for you from when High On Losing came out to what ultimately led to Cheater's Wine?

Speaker B

00:06:42.720 - 00:07:06.880

I did High on Lonesome with it was my first really traditional country record where I was like, you know, I want to go all for country for this and just make this sound as much like a, you know, traditional Ray Price record kind of as possible. You know, I had Kenny Vaughn in the studio and I had a bunch of great players on it.

And it was kind of one of those records where we go into the studio and we were there for six hours and we basically tracked the entire thing.

Speaker A

00:07:06.880 - 00:07:07.320

Wow.

Speaker B

00:07:07.320 - 00:08:18.010

And so, you know, each song we get two passes and then everyone be like, all right, you cool with that? Cool, yeah. Okay, let's move on to the next song. Which is great, but it was so intimidating. And I was like, I think it's. I think that was a good pass.

I hope so. And so then there's a lot of waltzes on there. It's a pretty slow, sad record. And so, you know, I started playing the songs out.

And I love flow songs, but playing those out, it didn't really, you know, it kind of dragged at some points. And so I started writing a little more up tempo kind of stuff and then kind of got a. A little bit later of a sound.

Like I was listening to a lot of Gary Stewart and Mel street and stuff like that kind of late 60s, early 70s country.

And so when we did Cheater's Line went in to cut those songs and I decided for this one, I was like, you know, let's made a deal with one of my friends at a studio at the time, and I was like, let's do each song almost one by one.

So we would go into the studio and we would just focus on one song at a time pretty much, and just work on that song all day and make up the coolest arrangements we could. The cool thing about that was Robert Ellis was living in Nashville at the time and we've been playing together a little bit.

So he came in and he played all the guitar on the record, which was really cool.

Speaker A

00:08:18.250 - 00:08:20.410

And so what studio were you able to do that with?

Speaker B

00:08:20.650 - 00:08:46.790

It was called Schematic Studio. It does not exist anymore. It was a really interesting place. My friend was almost subletting the studio and it was over in Green Hill, which is.

There's like, not really any studio. It's not known for having studios. It was almost like a duplex kind of place.

But it was cool because, you know, we had the freedom to just hang out there. No one else was really coming. It took us a couple months. We just took a pretty relaxed approach at it. It was nice. It was a good way to do it.

Speaker A

00:08:46.790 - 00:09:07.310

Hey, y', all, this is Sloan Spencer, the host of Country Fried Rock. Those of y' all who listen on our podcasts, it's a quick hit of just the conversation.

If you want the full radio program with all the songs that we talk about, ask for it on your local radio station, joining 20 other stations across the country. Get the goods at country fried rock.org.

Speaker B

00:09:07.310 - 00:09:16.170

Hey, this is Kale Tyson, and you can check out some of my music, upcoming shows, videos, and all that good stuff@www.kaeltyson.net.

Speaker A

00:09:16.330 - 00:09:20.810

Pretty nice to have Robert Ellis come on in and play some guitar. Did you end up calling in any other friends for other parts?

Speaker B

00:09:21.050 - 00:09:49.380

I actually used a lot of the band that I was playing with and I still do play with often at the time, a band called Johnny Appleseed. So it was Andrew Squire played drums on it. He's in Johnny Appleseed. And Rhett, of course, played steel.

Brett Resnick and then Mark Sloan also did some guitar stuff on there. And a guy named Casey Driscoll played fiddle on there. It was a lot of those guys. The same guy that played bass.

My first record on Highlandson played on this one, Mike Rinny. He's always kind of been around. He's great. He's played with Rodney Crowell and all sorts of people.

Speaker A

00:09:49.460 - 00:10:01.780

As you were able to, I guess, take your time would be the right way to say it, but to get the songs the way you wanted without quite the same time pressure as the previous release. What happened with the record after?

Speaker B

00:10:02.660 - 00:11:00.300

I. I'm a perfectionist. And so taking my time was both a good thing and it was kind of a bad thing because I would be like, I don't know if this song's finished.

I don't know if we did this well. I don't know. Maybe we should go back in and recut this. Maybe we should do another vocal cut on this one. I don't know.

So, I mean, I like doing it, but at the same time, it was very frustrating for me in my head, just me in my head, second guess everything.

But, you know, the response, it was really cool after the record because for High on my, I did have the publicist helping out because that was kind of my debut, you know, release. And so I had a publicist for that, and she helped out A lot with getting some cool stuff from me.

And then this one, I put it out and, you know, I reached out to. I didn't use a publicist for it, and I just reached out to everyone that I kind of knew and it was awesome.

I mean, got on Rolling Stone, Country's American Songwriter, you know, all sorts of really great stuff happened. I was very happy with it and I looked at it as a growing thing. It's not just the same album release again. I looked at it as stepping up.

Speaker A

00:11:00.300 - 00:11:03.340

How did Clubhouse Records come on board? What is that relationship?

Speaker B

00:11:03.660 - 00:11:59.540

I guess it's probably been six months or so now. They had emailed me and said, you know, we'd love to talk to you about maybe doing a release over in the UK on this record label.

It's a pretty small record label and at the time I'd never heard of them or anything. And so I didn't really take it that seriously. And then I think they emailed me again or something.

And a friend of mine, Emma Swift, I reached out to her about them and asked her if she knew them. She did. And she was like, yeah, they're great. Told me all these great things.

I was like, that is so awesome to hear because that's a region that, honestly, I don't know anyone out there other than Emma. So it was really great to hear that. And then I kept talking to them and we made a...

Transcripts

Speaker A:

This week on Country Fried Rock, we're talking with Cale Tyson.

Speaker A:

With a couple of very traditional country eps under his belt, he's got an exciting year in store.

Speaker A:

After signing with Clubhouse Records for UK distribution, our Euro friends can look for a special double EP album release sometime in the next year.

Speaker A:

While here in the States, Cale is getting ready to head to the noted Fame Studios in Muscle Shoals, Alabama to record a country soul record.

Speaker A:

He's already released a couple of teaser videos and we're looking forward to talking with Cale Tyson today on Country Fried Rock.

Speaker A:

We really appreciate your support for Country Fried Rock.

Speaker A:

Every so often we offer a limited edition T shirt only on sale for three weeks and when they're gone, they're gone forever.

Speaker A:

Our brand new design is a spark plug with a very small Country Fried Rock logo.

Speaker A:

On sale now for three weeks only@teespring.com Country FriedRock 4 it's the limited edition T shirt number four designed by Skillet Gilmore, noted musician and designer with Krall SP Base Press.

Speaker A:

They're super soft, women's kids v neck hoodie, long sleeve and they're all on sale right now for three weeks only.

Speaker A:

Teespring.com country friedrock4 get yours before it's gone forever.

Speaker A:

My guest today on Country Fried Rock is Kale Tyson with a brand new, well, not so much brand new.

Speaker A:

It's my fault.

Speaker A:

I dropped the ball and didn't return the email.

Speaker A:

But it's a fantastic record.

Speaker A:

Cheater's Wine.

Speaker A:

Welcome.

Speaker B:

Hey, how's it going?

Speaker A:

Fantastic.

Speaker A:

So I've been listening to your music, I guess since High on Lonesome was when I first became familiar with you.

Speaker A:

What took you to Nashville?

Speaker B:

Basically I grew up in Fort Worth, Texas for the most part and then I went to college for a year.

Speaker B:

I wanted to go down to Austin to go to school down there, didn't get accepted and then ended up going to SMU in Dallas, started getting into the music scene there and I had a friend who had moved to Nashville and you know, I was telling him kind of the things with the music scene there versus what I wanted to do and wasn't really happy with everything that was going on.

Speaker B:

And he was like, man, you should come, come out here, come out to Nashville.

Speaker B:

There's Belmont University here.

Speaker B:

You can go there and finish your degree and everything and, you know, take music more seriously.

Speaker B:

So yeah, I ended up transferring to Belmont and finished my degree here.

Speaker B:

And the funny thing about that was the guy who had convinced me to come out here, he moved back to Fort Worth, like, a month before I moved out here.

Speaker B:

I moved out here and knew.

Speaker B:

Knew nobody.

Speaker A:

Oh, my goodness.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

So Belmont is pretty intense.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it was.

Speaker B:

You know, I got a music business degree, and I quickly realized that, you know, it took me maybe a year of going to school and doing internships that I was like, you know, I don't really want to be in the music business on the business side, per se.

Speaker B:

I couldn't do both the creative and the business aspects of it.

Speaker B:

But the cool thing about it was the school taught me so much about things I needed to be doing as an artist that I would have never found out that early on, as far as pros, as far as, you know, publishing and all sorts of stuff.

Speaker B:

Another cool thing about it was just I met a lot of the people that I.

Speaker B:

That I still play with today and made a lot of great friends there.

Speaker B:

And, yeah, it was a good school.

Speaker B:

It was a good, good experience for me.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I mean, and I had never experienced that level of competition either.

Speaker B:

I mean, well, just Nashville in general, but, you know, the kind of thing with Belmont that I managed to get away from.

Speaker B:

Everyone talks about the Belmont bubble.

Speaker B:

While you're going to school there, you can get so involved with the music scene.

Speaker B:

Just the Belmont to forget about, you know, the whole community in Nashville as the whole city.

Speaker B:

So when I moved to Nashville, I lived off campus originally, and, I mean, the whole time I had a house here.

Speaker B:

And so I think that was really good for me, to actually be able to never, never fall into that bubble.

Speaker B:

And it was always there, but it was friends with people that, you know, didn't necessarily go to school, and so it's good.

Speaker A:

Hey, y'.

Speaker B:

All.

Speaker A:

This is Sloan Spencer, the host of Country Fried Rock.

Speaker A:

We've had an incredible year with more people finding us on the radio and our podcast than we ever imagined.

Speaker A:

Thank you all so much.

Speaker A:

Careful what you wish for.

Speaker A:

You just might get it.

Speaker B:

Hey, this is Kale Tyson, and you're listening to Country Fried Rock.

Speaker A:

When you're out of school and you started doing your own thing, you talk about, you know, you meet people and they're your friends, and that's who you call in to help you when you're wanting to record.

Speaker A:

How did that develop for you?

Speaker B:

So basically, the first kind of group of people I was playing with were a couple of them were kids from Belmont that I went to school with some of my first friends in town.

Speaker B:

And then at that time, I was doing more kind of a folky, indie rock kind of thing.

Speaker B:

Not so Much country, but it was all leading that way.

Speaker B:

I had a show at my house one time, and this band came from Boston.

Speaker B:

They all went to Berkeley.

Speaker B:

A lot of them did.

Speaker B:

And this guy came down and was playing pedal steel with them.

Speaker B:

And I had never played with a pedal steel player before, but I was fascinated by it.

Speaker B:

And he told me, you know, I'm thinking about moving to Nashville in, like, a couple months.

Speaker B:

I'll reach out to you once I get there, and we should play together.

Speaker B:

I was like, yeah, man, that would be amazing.

Speaker B:

So, I mean, this is way back.

Speaker B:

This is probably four years ago or so.

Speaker B:

And I had a Craigslist ad out at the time that was just sitting out on Craigslist and said, you know, looking for a pedal steel player.

Speaker B:

And he reached out to me, and I was like, brett, like, you know, it's me, KO we met.

Speaker B:

You know, come.

Speaker B:

Come play pedal steel with me.

Speaker B:

So, yeah, he's been playing with me ever since.

Speaker B:

And then the rest of the guys just been, you know, part of the scene that I've just come to know.

Speaker B:

And, you know, I play with a lot of different players, too, for certain gigs, so it's.

Speaker B:

It's not really a totally set band anyway, so it's a great, great little mix.

Speaker B:

That's another really cool thing about living here is you get the opportunity to play with some of the just insanely good players.

Speaker B:

I never would have even imagined I could play with.

Speaker B:

Like, I've been doing this downtown gig two or three times a month, this place called the Acme, and I had a guy filling in for Brett on pedal steel named Pete Fay.

Speaker B:

He's played with all sorts of people.

Speaker B:

I needed a bass player for a gig, so I reached out to Pete, and I was like, pete, you know, do you have any bass players in mind that we could use for this gig?

Speaker B:

And he's like, yeah, give this guy Brad a call.

Speaker B:

It's called Brad Albin.

Speaker B:

And I call him, and he's like.

Speaker B:

He's like, yeah, yeah, I can play.

Speaker B:

I was like, yeah, just making sure, you know, that, you know, like, the whole classic country thing that we kind of.

Speaker B:

You know, we do a lot of covers from the 50s through the 70s and just making sure you'd be okay with that.

Speaker B:

He's like, yeah, I think I should be okay with that.

Speaker B:

I play with the Time Jumpers every Monday night.

Speaker B:

Oh, my God.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Sorry.

Speaker A:

My foot tastes really good right here.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So it's.

Speaker B:

I mean, it's just been killer to be able to Just be on a stage with those same people.

Speaker A:

So you did the initial EP release and then what changed for you from when High On Losing came out to what ultimately led to Cheater's Wine?

Speaker B:

I did High on Lonesome with it was my first really traditional country record where I was like, you know, I want to go all for country for this and just make this sound as much like a, you know, traditional Ray Price record kind of as possible.

Speaker B:

You know, I had Kenny Vaughn in the studio and I had a bunch of great players on it.

Speaker B:

And it was kind of one of those records where we go into the studio and we were there for six hours and we basically tracked the entire thing.

Speaker A:

Wow.

Speaker B:

And so, you know, each song we get two passes and then everyone be like, all right, you cool with that?

Speaker B:

Cool, yeah.

Speaker B:

Okay, let's move on to the next song.

Speaker B:

Which is great, but it was so intimidating.

Speaker B:

And I was like, I think it's.

Speaker B:

I think that was a good pass.

Speaker B:

I hope so.

Speaker B:

And so then there's a lot of waltzes on there.

Speaker B:

It's a pretty slow, sad record.

Speaker B:

And so, you know, I started playing the songs out.

Speaker B:

And I love flow songs, but playing those out, it didn't really, you know, it kind of dragged at some points.

Speaker B:

And so I started writing a little more up tempo kind of stuff and then kind of got a.

Speaker B:

A little bit later of a sound.

Speaker B:

Like I was listening to a lot of Gary Stewart and Mel street and stuff like that kind of late 60s, early 70s country.

Speaker B:

And so when we did Cheater's Line went in to cut those songs and I decided for this one, I was like, you know, let's made a deal with one of my friends at a studio at the time, and I was like, let's do each song almost one by one.

Speaker B:

So we would go into the studio and we would just focus on one song at a time pretty much, and just work on that song all day and make up the coolest arrangements we could.

Speaker B:

The cool thing about that was Robert Ellis was living in Nashville at the time and we've been playing together a little bit.

Speaker B:

So he came in and he played all the guitar on the record, which was really cool.

Speaker A:

And so what studio were you able to do that with?

Speaker B:

It was called Schematic Studio.

Speaker B:

It does not exist anymore.

Speaker B:

It was a really interesting place.

Speaker B:

My friend was almost subletting the studio and it was over in Green Hill, which is.

Speaker B:

There's like, not really any studio.

Speaker B:

It's not known for having studios.

Speaker B:

It was almost like a duplex kind of place.

Speaker B:

But it was cool because, you know, we had the freedom to just hang out there.

Speaker B:

No one else was really coming.

Speaker B:

It took us a couple months.

Speaker B:

We just took a pretty relaxed approach at it.

Speaker B:

It was nice.

Speaker B:

It was a good way to do it.

Speaker A:

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Speaker A:

Pretty nice to have Robert Ellis come on in and play some guitar.

Speaker A:

Did you end up calling in any other friends for other parts?

Speaker B:

I actually used a lot of the band that I was playing with and I still do play with often at the time, a band called Johnny Appleseed.

Speaker B:

So it was Andrew Squire played drums on it.

Speaker B:

He's in Johnny Appleseed.

Speaker B:

And Rhett, of course, played steel.

Speaker B:

Brett Resnick and then Mark Sloan also did some guitar stuff on there.

Speaker B:

And a guy named Casey Driscoll played fiddle on there.

Speaker B:

It was a lot of those guys.

Speaker B:

The same guy that played bass.

Speaker B:

My first record on Highlandson played on this one, Mike Rinny.

Speaker B:

He's always kind of been around.

Speaker B:

He's great.

Speaker B:

He's played with Rodney Crowell and all sorts of people.

Speaker A:

As you were able to, I guess, take your time would be the right way to say it, but to get the songs the way you wanted without quite the same time pressure as the previous release.

Speaker A:

What happened with the record after?

Speaker B:

I. I'm a perfectionist.

Speaker B:

And so taking my time was both a good thing and it was kind of a bad thing because I would be like, I don't know if this song's finished.

Speaker B:

I don't know if we did this well.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

Maybe we should go back in and recut this.

Speaker B:

Maybe we should do another vocal cut on this one.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker B:

So, I mean, I like doing it, but at the same time, it was very frustrating for me in my head, just me in my head, second guess everything.

Speaker B:

But, you know, the response, it was really cool after the record because for High on my, I did have the publicist helping out because that was kind of my debut, you know, release.

Speaker B:

And so I had a publicist for that, and she helped out A lot with getting some cool stuff from me.

Speaker B:

And then this one, I put it out and, you know, I reached out to.

Speaker B:

I didn't use a publicist for it, and I just reached out to everyone that I kind of knew and it was awesome.

Speaker B:

I mean, got on Rolling Stone, Country's American Songwriter, you know, all sorts of really great stuff happened.

Speaker B:

I was very happy with it and I looked at it as a growing thing.

Speaker B:

It's not just the same album release again.

Speaker B:

I looked at it as stepping up.

Speaker A:

How did Clubhouse Records come on board?

Speaker A:

What is that relationship?

Speaker B:

I guess it's probably been six months or so now.

Speaker B:

They had emailed me and said, you know, we'd love to talk to you about maybe doing a release over in the UK on this record label.

Speaker B:

It's a pretty small record label and at the time I'd never heard of them or anything.

Speaker B:

And so I didn't really take it that seriously.

Speaker B:

And then I think they emailed me again or something.

Speaker B:

And a friend of mine, Emma Swift, I reached out to her about them and asked her if she knew them.

Speaker B:

She did.

Speaker B:

And she was like, yeah, they're great.

Speaker B:

Told me all these great things.

Speaker B:

I was like, that is so awesome to hear because that's a region that, honestly, I don't know anyone out there other than Emma.

Speaker B:

So it was really great to hear that.

Speaker B:

And then I kept talking to them and we made a deal that would work out and they would release High on Lonesome.

Speaker B:

And they actually haven't released Cheetahs Wine over there yet, but they're going to release that.

Speaker B:

And they're doing.

Speaker B:

I'm going over there in April.

Speaker B:

I'll be over there for about a whole month.

Speaker B:

And for that they're releasing.

Speaker B:

They're making kind of a full length, which is both High on Lonesome and Cheaters Wine in one cd.

Speaker A:

Cool.

Speaker B:

And yeah, it'll be kind of a exclusive UK album called Introducing Kiel Tyson.

Speaker B:

Should be really cool.

Speaker B:

I'm really excited for that.

Speaker B:

I've stayed in Nashville for the most part for the last few years, done some runs.

Speaker B:

I went to Illinois a couple months ago and then, you know, I always do south by and go down to Texas whenever I can to see all my hometown buddies and play down there, you know, I've been staying in Nashville for the most part, you know, building my shop here and working on everything this year.

Speaker B:

So I just signed to a. I joined with a booking agency from Knoxville, Tennessee, called Prater Day.

Speaker B:

They recently did Margot on the Price Tag, too.

Speaker B:

Good friend of mine this year should be crazy.

Speaker B:

We're already gearing up for it.

Speaker B:

So we're doing south by again.

Speaker B:

And then late March, I'm doing a Midwest run and then in April I go to Switzerland for 10 days and then straight from Switzerland to the UK for the three week or so tour.

Speaker B:

Then I come back and then in June we're doing the whole Southwest thing.

Speaker B:

Should take about a month going all the way to California.

Speaker B:

So it's going to be a totally different year.

Speaker B:

So it should be good to bring.

Speaker A:

Listeners up to speed.

Speaker A:

Margo and the price Tags.

Speaker A:

We talked with her years ago when she was in a band called Buffalo Clover.

Speaker A:

At the time she said, I'm going to be doing a country record.

Speaker A:

It's going to be called Margot.

Speaker A:

And the price tags.

Speaker A:

And people were like, no way.

Speaker A:

How could she move from psychedelic rock to that?

Speaker A:

And then they were like, whoa.

Speaker A:

And it's awesome.

Speaker A:

So yeah, cool stuff.

Speaker A:

So will you be doing that run solo?

Speaker B:

No, I'll be doing it with a band.

Speaker B:

It might be a little more stripped down.

Speaker B:

Like a three to four piece band.

Speaker B:

Should be a lot of fun.

Speaker B:

We're doing.

Speaker B:

We're actually the South By Stuff this year is going to be really cool.

Speaker B:

We're doing a thing with clothing company called Bandit Brand.

Speaker B:

Yeah, they have a thing out in California.

Speaker B:

They're doing a big party outside of Austin at this ghost town.

Speaker A:

Cool.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And that'll be like JP Harris is on there.

Speaker B:

And Caleb Cottle.

Speaker B:

I know you have Caleb Cottle on the show.

Speaker A:

Yeah, Caleb, yes.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it'll be on there.

Speaker B:

And Whitey Morgan.

Speaker B:

It should be a lot of fun.

Speaker A:

That is fantastic.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And then we got a bunch of.

Speaker B:

I'm actually going to be playing with another guy that I play with a lot in town.

Speaker B:

He's a good buddy of mine, Luke Bell.

Speaker B:

I'll be playing in his band at some of the shows down there.

Speaker B:

And he actually got asked play the Heartbreaker Banquet out at Willy's Ranch.

Speaker A:

Whoa.

Speaker B:

So that'll be really cool too.

Speaker B:

I can't wait to get down there.

Speaker B:

He's a great guy.

Speaker B:

He's actually.

Speaker B:

I just talked to him earlier today.

Speaker B:

He's been out in Wyoming for the past month.

Speaker B:

He's coming back to Nashville on his way back.

Speaker A:

Now, I'm your host, Sloane Spencer.

Speaker A:

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Speaker B:

Can find my record at the website kale tyson.net or you can buy it on itunes.

Speaker B:

Or it's available on Spotify or Bandcamp, anywhere you'd like.

Speaker A:

Mentally, are you kind of, like, gearing yourself up for what's obviously going to be a big step forward?

Speaker B:

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker B:

You know, I've been working a day job here since I graduated from college, so I'm getting ready to either quit that or see if we can do a kind of remote thing, just getting rid of the safety net, pretty much going full force.

Speaker B:

I'm really excited for this year.

Speaker B:

I'm going to be going down to Muscle Shoals in March to record at Fame Studios.

Speaker B:

To do the first full length?

Speaker B:

Yes, I guess.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I guess this is the first time I've talked about it.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So I'm working with Mike Rennie as a producer.

Speaker B:

He's the guy I told you about, played bass in the last two records.

Speaker B:

He did Kelsey Walden's record.

Speaker B:

He did one of my friend Aaron Ray's records.

Speaker B:

We have a group of guys, really, really great group of guys, and we're gonna go down to Fame Studios and we're doing my first full length.

Speaker B:

And it's going to be kind of different from the ones before.

Speaker B:

It's going to be a country soul record.

Speaker B:

So we're going to have horns and strings and just big arrangements.

Speaker B:

I've been writing kind of more geared towards that, listening to a lot of that kind of stuff.

Speaker B:

So I can't wait.

Speaker B:

I'm so, so excited for that.

Speaker B:

It should be great.

Speaker B:

I think I'm going to do a little Kickstarter here pretty soon and try to promote that and make a little money for it.

Speaker B:

And we'll go down there and cut it.

Speaker B:

We're going to try to cut it or cut all the basic tracking in about three days right before I go to south by, and then come back in April and do all the horns and all the other arrangements and try to get it all geared later in the year.

Speaker A:

You're working on those songs now.

Speaker A:

Do you do that by yourself?

Speaker A:

Do you play out?

Speaker A:

How do you develop those songs as.

Speaker B:

Far as writing goes?

Speaker B:

You know, I've been writing, I guess, the songs I wrote for Cheater's Wine I wrote almost a year ago or maybe even more than a year ago now.

Speaker B:

So I have a huge library of songs I've written since then.

Speaker B:

And then a lot of those songs that I wrote since then that we play out a lot all far more kind of straight country.

Speaker B:

And I've just been reworking them by myself to give it a little soul kind of arrangement so that we can work with those and, you know, just spice them up.

Speaker B:

Then lately, you know, I've been trying to write as much as possible since I've had a little bit of downtime lately, just to get some cool stuff going.

Speaker B:

I'm playing a bunch of shows in town to finally start playing those songs out and working up with the band.

Speaker B:

Really looking forward to that.

Speaker A:

It's really exciting to hear that that's gonna happen so quickly.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

It strikes while the iron's hot.

Speaker B:

And I'm gonna be on the road so much this year that I was like, God, if I'm gonna record this thing, I soon.

Speaker B:

Before I'm out there for so long.

Speaker A:

Well, then let me hit you up to make sure you record a Couch by Couch west video.

Speaker B:

Yes, absolutely.

Speaker B:

We talked about it.

Speaker A:

Yeah, you can do that soon.

Speaker A:

You can submit it whenever.

Speaker B:

Yeah, we'll make a cool one.

Speaker B:

I'm excited.

Speaker A:

Longtime listeners know that Couch by Couch west is the online festival for those of us who can't actually be there.

Speaker A:

And it's super fun.

Speaker A:

And I'm just a. I'm a fan.

Speaker A:

I'm not one of the founders, but it's a really cool thing.

Speaker A:

Tell me a little bit about the album artwork.

Speaker B:

The last two album artworks I've done for Highland, Winston and Cheers1, they're both along the same lines with the picture, and they actually have the same script for my name.

Speaker B:

Both of those were done by Rachel Briggs.

Speaker B:

The design elements.

Speaker B:

She shot the picture for Hyan Lonesome, and she did all the design for that.

Speaker B:

But for Choose Wine, I had a girl named Danielle Hobart who lives in Nashville.

Speaker B:

She shot the picture.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I love.

Speaker B:

Rachel's great.

Speaker B:

I met her as an intern over at American Songwriter magazine, and I actually met her over there.

Speaker B:

She was the designer for the magazine for a couple years.

Speaker B:

You know, she does all sorts of stuff.

Speaker B:

I think she did the new.

Speaker B:

She's done a lot of great stuff, and so she's always been a blast to work with, and she always comes up with some really cool stuff that's modern, but it still has that kind of retro vibe.

Speaker B:

So it was really great having her help out on there.

Speaker B:

There's another thing with Cheater's Line.

Speaker B:

Everyone keeps bringing up that Emmylou record, Elite Hotel, and because they do look very similar with the wallpaper, but we had to do it.

Speaker B:

I told her.

Speaker B:

I sent her, like, A list of records, and that happened to be one of them.

Speaker B:

It has differences, but I will admit that it does look similar to it.

Speaker B:

Consider it an homage to Emily Ex.

Speaker A:

Exactly.

Speaker A:

Her.

Speaker A:

Her Save the Puppy Dogs benefit.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

I've been to a few of her little fundraisers around town.

Speaker B:

They're amazing.

Speaker A:

They're incredible.

Speaker B:

Last one I went to, I saw her and Bobby Bear and Buddy Miller and, like, Rodney Crowell thing with her.

Speaker B:

Just a free show in Nashville.

Speaker B:

Just a little.

Speaker A:

Just hanging out.

Speaker B:

A little thing I went to during the day, which is insane.

Speaker A:

Nashville is crazy like that.

Speaker A:

It really is.

Speaker B:

It's nuts.

Speaker B:

I mean, like, even this last week, you know, I didn't have anything planned for the week for nights, and I think it was Wednesday night when Jack White played at Bridgestone arena, and someone was like, hey, I have two tickets.

Speaker B:

Do you want to go see that?

Speaker B:

And so Wednesday night, went and saw Loretta Lynn and Jack White, which was crazy.

Speaker B:

And then Thursday, I heard that Doug Segers, who is one of my favorites right now, was playing at City Winery, which is a great new venue, real close to where I live, and I got to go see him.

Speaker B:

He's just incredible.

Speaker B:

Great story, too.

Speaker B:

He was homeless for a long time in Nashville, and he would play outside this goodwill on Charlotte Avenue.

Speaker B:

This TV show came in town from Sweden, and they heard him busking, and they were blown away by it.

Speaker B:

They played the TV show.

Speaker B:

I'm not sure exactly on the facts of this, but they played the TV show with him singing the song in Sweden, and it blew up to the point where they had the demand for him to record this record, and.

Speaker B:

And he did, and it got to be, like, number one on the iTunes charts in freedom.

Speaker B:

And he.

Speaker B:

His voice is just heartbreaking, and his songwriting is incredible.

Speaker B:

Definitely.

Speaker B:

Definitely.

Speaker B:

Give that one a listen.

Speaker A:

Thank you.

Speaker A:

The crazy thing about that is when I talked with Margot a few years ago, that show has gotten, like, thousands and thousands and thousands of hits.

Speaker A:

And it's because the segment we talked about was about homeless songwriters in Nashville.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

And just walking down the street, some random dude busking, and just that whole thing of.

Speaker A:

Some of these people are brilliant individuals.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

And this.

Speaker B:

This is just.

Speaker B:

It's such a cool story because.

Speaker B:

And also, even seeing him live, he's so, so humbled, you know, and he.

Speaker B:

You can just tell that this is all so new for him, but, like, you know, nothing's getting to his head at all.

Speaker B:

It's just.

Speaker B:

It's really, really cool.

Speaker A:

Safe travels to you on what is going to be one stellar year.

Speaker A:

Cale Tyson thank you.

Speaker B:

Thank you so much.

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