2023 Timeless Voyager interview with Dale Pond, Sympathetic Vibratory Physics, Bridging Science and Spirituality (SVPwiki.com). Host, Bruce Stephen Holms quizzes Pond regarding his research into the strange world of Viktor Schauberger — (1885-1958) an Austrian man who spent much of his life as a forestmaster in his native country, and as an inventor.

According to Dale Pond, there are detailed diagrams Schauberger produced that show the electrical and temperature gradient cycles in forests and rivers and their importance to the quality of the water contained therein.

Schauberger is known for posing the theory that the collapse of the so-called Law of the Conservation of Energy, and the Law of Gravity, and all other dogmatics lose any rational or practical basis while at the same time levitation, a by-product of this new theory, allows for such strange results like complete levitation of extremely large objects such as UFOs.