This week Jamie is joined by Amy West and Matthew Ives — co-creators of MT Swing Life — for The Business of Show Business' first ever trio interview. Amy and Matthew have between them swung, dance captained, and choreographed on shows including Hunger Games, Back to the Future, Hairspray, Jersey Boys, Addams Family, Little Big Things and more.

They break down exactly what it takes to be a musical theatre swing — from the soft skills (calm under pressure, grace under fire) to the practical tools (cheat sheets, swing Bibles, colour-coded maps, Stage Right software). They also get into the dance captain role, why it's one of the most undervalued and underpaid in the industry, the ADHD superpower in the swing world, and how to position yourself if you want the swing life to find you.

Whether you're a performer thinking about swing work, already in a show, or just want to understand what keeps West End productions running night after night — this one's essential viewing.

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