Hear three inspiring testimonies from Jewish believers in Jesus in this week's episode of Our Hope Podcast.
Welcome to
Speaker:Our Hope, a production
Speaker:of Chosen People Ministries.
Speaker:"Therefore,
Speaker:if anyone is in Messiah,
Speaker:he is a new creature;
Speaker:the old things passed away;
Speaker:behold, new things have come."
Speaker:2 Corinthians 5:17.
Speaker:Springtime is here.
Speaker:As we say goodbye to the last
Speaker:lingering days of
Speaker:winter and experience
Speaker:the change that comes
Speaker:with a new season,
Speaker:we are reminded that
Speaker:God makes all things new.
Speaker:He breathes life into that
Speaker:which is dead and causes
Speaker:the former things to pass away.
Speaker:The same God who
Speaker:transforms a caterpillar
Speaker:into a butterfly and changes
Speaker:the sky from dusk to dawn,
Speaker:also transforms
Speaker:the lives of those
Speaker:who have put their faith
Speaker:in Yeshua.
Speaker:Today we bring you three
Speaker:powerful stories
Speaker:from Jewish believers
Speaker:who have experienced
Speaker:this transformation.
Speaker:The first is Grant Berry.
Speaker:Grant spent his life pursuing
Speaker:what he thought was important
Speaker:– wealth and success.
Speaker:But one day, a Christian woman
Speaker:who started working for him
Speaker:provoked his desire for God.
Speaker:Take a listen.
Speaker:I came to America
Speaker:to chase the American dream
Speaker:and it wasn't long before
Speaker:I started my own
Speaker:cosmetic business
Speaker:with my brother.
Speaker:And through a lot of hard
Speaker:work and effort,
Speaker:we brought some very new
Speaker:and innovative products
Speaker:into the cosmetic industry
Speaker:in the mass market
Speaker:and it wasn't long before
Speaker:I began to experience
Speaker:the pleasures
Speaker:and the success of that.
Speaker:I was driving around town
Speaker:in a red Maserati.
Speaker:I have modeled girlfriends.
Speaker:And I was really sort of
Speaker:chasing that life,
Speaker:but it was really a God
Speaker:that I was after.
Speaker:As a child,
Speaker:I was always looking to know
Speaker:God and I was searching for Him
Speaker:all throughout my childhood
Speaker:and I have to be honest,
Speaker:I couldn't find Him in
Speaker:the synagogue experience.
Speaker:I found it religious.
Speaker:The women were concerned about
Speaker:what they look like
Speaker:and what they were wearing, and
Speaker:there was a lot of
Speaker:materialism going on.
Speaker:I was actually looking
Speaker:for a spiritual connection.
Speaker:So I was beginning
Speaker:to experience the high life.
Speaker:Beautiful restaurants,
Speaker:a single lifestyle,
Speaker:money in my pocket,
Speaker:driving a red Maserati,
Speaker:and in comes
Speaker:this beautiful girl,
Speaker:name is Maria.
Speaker:A make-up artist
Speaker:I had started to work with.
Speaker:And it's like I had it all
Speaker:but something
Speaker:wasn't quite right.
Speaker:And the interesting thing
Speaker:was, is that Maria was
Speaker:there was something
Speaker:different about her.
Speaker:She just didn't seem to be
Speaker:too interested in everything
Speaker:that I was sort of living up
Speaker:at that particular time,
Speaker:and she started to
Speaker:explain her faith to me
Speaker:as a Christian girl.
Speaker:She presented her faith to me
Speaker:in a way
Speaker:that I could understand that
Speaker:belief in Yeshua, was
Speaker:had a Jewish foundation
Speaker:and it was so different from
Speaker:from like my synagogue
Speaker:experience.
Speaker:You know, here
Speaker:I was looking for God,
Speaker:looking for a relationship
Speaker:and she seemed to
Speaker:have this dimension
Speaker:and this intimacy,
Speaker:and this connection, and here
Speaker:I was the child of Abraham,
Speaker:the Jewish guy, and I seem
Speaker:to have nothing.
Speaker:It was almost like
Speaker:I was a Jekyll and a Hyde
Speaker:two types of personalities
Speaker:like this young successful
Speaker:entrepreneur during the day
Speaker:and at night I was empty.
Speaker:And a depression
Speaker:was setting in that
Speaker:I couldn't contain,
Speaker:but I wouldn't
Speaker:let anyone see me.
Speaker:It was almost like in the world
Speaker:we have a facade
Speaker:that everything is
Speaker:wonderful and okay
Speaker:and yet inwardly
Speaker:it's not like that.
Speaker:There was a depression
Speaker:and emotional chains
Speaker:that I was beginning
Speaker:to get in touch with
Speaker:and definitely
Speaker:something was wrong.
Speaker:I think what was
Speaker:really different about Maria
Speaker:is that
Speaker:she had learned to bring
Speaker:the message of Yeshua
Speaker:back to Jewish people,
Speaker:as if it was their very own.
Speaker:We reviewed a lot of the
Speaker:in some of our discussions
Speaker:we talked about all
Speaker:the terrible things
Speaker:that had happened
Speaker:to the Jewish people
Speaker:in the name of Christianity
Speaker:and how Christianity has
Speaker:been used.
Speaker:And she worked very hard
Speaker:in her communication
Speaker:to separate that stuff.
Speaker:Mainly most of the time,
Speaker:saying that most
Speaker:of those people really
Speaker:weren't believers
Speaker:in the first place.
Speaker:And she began to,
Speaker:so she began to lay
Speaker:this foundation for me
Speaker:that the roots of Christianity
Speaker:were completely Jewish.
Speaker:And of course you know
Speaker:when I began to
Speaker:open the scripture
Speaker:and read for myself,
Speaker:I was overwhelmed.
Speaker:I was so surprised, okay,
Speaker:that I was actually
Speaker:reading a Jewish book.
Speaker:So I have to
Speaker:I have to tell you, after
Speaker:you know experiencing
Speaker:this dimension that I knew
Speaker:Maria was experiencing
Speaker:between her and God, it began
Speaker:to really get my attention.
Speaker:And so it caused me
Speaker:to begin to go after
Speaker:once again, a relationship
Speaker:with my own God.
Speaker:And so I went into my bedroom
Speaker:for three weeks,
Speaker:seven days a week.
Speaker:Every night
Speaker:I got on my knees and I prayed.
Speaker:I tried to talk to God.
Speaker:And it was like my prayers
Speaker:went up to the ceiling
Speaker:and dropped
Speaker:right down to the floor.
Speaker:There was nothing,
Speaker:no connection.
Speaker:And I was frustrated.
Speaker:I mean here Maria
Speaker:was this Christian girl
Speaker:that had a relationship
Speaker:with my God,
Speaker:the God of Abraham.
Speaker:And here I was a Jew
Speaker:trying to have a
Speaker:relationship with my God,
Speaker:the God of Abraham and nothing.
Speaker:I was disconnected
Speaker:and so it cause me
Speaker:to get very frustrated
Speaker:and one night
Speaker:we were out for dinner
Speaker:and I
Speaker:expressed that frustration
Speaker:and she turned around to me.
Speaker:She said, "Grant,
Speaker:I have been trying to tell you
Speaker:for six to eight months,
Speaker:almost every time we go out,
Speaker:you can't have the Father
Speaker:without the Son."
Speaker:So immediately I decided
Speaker:I've got to go upstairs.
Speaker:I got upstairs to my apartment
Speaker:and it was not difficult for me
Speaker:with all my
Speaker:spiritual experiences
Speaker:to visualize this whole thing.
Speaker:And I laid on the bed,
Speaker:and I stretched out my arm
Speaker:in the shape of the
Speaker:crucifixion tree,
Speaker:and I shut my eyes.
Speaker:And Maria had told me
Speaker:about a scripture,
Speaker:Revelations 3:20,
Speaker:and I'll never forget it, "I
Speaker:stand at the door and knock.
Speaker:If any man hears
Speaker:my voice and opens that door,
Speaker:I will come into him
Speaker:and he will hear my voice,
Speaker:and we will sup together."
Speaker:In other words, we will connect
Speaker:and have intimacy.
Speaker:So I close my eyes
Speaker:and I visualized the door
Speaker:and I knocked on the door
Speaker:and I said, "God of Abraham
Speaker:if Yeshua is,"
Speaker:this is the exact prayer
Speaker:I prayed, "if Yeshua is
Speaker:Your Son
Speaker:and the Jewish Messiah.
Speaker:I want to know the truth."
Speaker:Right at that moment,
Speaker:at that very second,
Speaker:physical wind
Speaker:indwelt my stomach.
Speaker:I could, I could almost see it
Speaker:swooshing into me.
Speaker:And I was got up from the bed.
Speaker:I was startled, but
Speaker:from that moment on I believed.
Speaker:Grant's earnest seeking
Speaker:led him to find his Messiah,
Speaker:and afterward,
Speaker:he was never the same again.
Speaker:Like Grant, Elaine Caplan
Speaker:could never find fulfillment
Speaker:with the material
Speaker:things of this world.
Speaker:Having grown up
Speaker:in a broken home,
Speaker:she was devastated
Speaker:to find her own
Speaker:marriage falling apart.
Speaker:But God met her at
Speaker:her lowest moment.
Speaker:My parents were not
Speaker:happily married.
Speaker:When I was about five years old
Speaker:I would talk to God
Speaker:and I would say, "Dear God,
Speaker:I think you've made a mistake.
Speaker:I'm not supposed to be
Speaker:with this family."
Speaker:And I would talk like that
Speaker:practically every night
Speaker:because of my unhappiness.
Speaker:My father backed
Speaker:horses during the day
Speaker:and greyhounds
Speaker:during the night.
Speaker:He was very unfaithful
Speaker:to my mother.
Speaker:He had several affairs
Speaker:growing up.
Speaker:It wasn't a happy place.
Speaker:Well, as time went by,
Speaker:I met the man that I
Speaker:was going to marry.
Speaker:He actually managed
Speaker:a young man called Jack Wild.
Speaker:Soon after that
Speaker:he was introduced
Speaker:to a band called Yes.
Speaker:They went on the road
Speaker:with the first concerts
Speaker:in America.
Speaker:As the tour went on, Yes'
Speaker:album started to climb
Speaker:and climb and climb
Speaker:and do so well.
Speaker:The joy of it was short lived
Speaker:because I had to
Speaker:live my life myself.
Speaker:All this time
Speaker:I was alone in London
Speaker:and they were away for
Speaker:six weeks.
Speaker:We lived in one house
Speaker:and then we'd moved to another.
Speaker:And as things became
Speaker:more successful,
Speaker:I was always alone.
Speaker:No matter how many
Speaker:clothes I bought.
Speaker:No matter
Speaker:how many houses we had,
Speaker:my life was empty.
Speaker:It's like
Speaker:I had a hole inside me.
Speaker:Just sitting at home
Speaker:waiting for Brian
Speaker:to come home from the tours
Speaker:was very difficult.
Speaker:And then when he came home,
Speaker:it was like a stranger
Speaker:and he wasn't
Speaker:a good communicator.
Speaker:I had no idea at the time,
Speaker:or maybe I did,
Speaker:but I was in denial
Speaker:and I didn't want to
Speaker:look at things as they were
Speaker:that he was actually
Speaker:having affairs.
Speaker:So I was searching
Speaker:and searching and searching
Speaker:and a friend in LA
Speaker:sent me a letter.
Speaker:The only words
Speaker:I ever remembered were Donna
Speaker:Summer got born again.
Speaker:And I thought,
Speaker:that sounds good.
Speaker:What does that mean?
Speaker:I didn't really know
Speaker:who God was.
Speaker:I mean being Jewish, you know
Speaker:He was Adonai and Elohim.
Speaker:But on this day
Speaker:I was talking to God
Speaker:and I said to Him, born again,
Speaker:that sounds good to me.
Speaker:How do you get born again?
Speaker:How can I make restitution
Speaker:for everything wrong
Speaker:that I have done in my life?
Speaker:At this point in time
Speaker:I went with Brian
Speaker:into Beverly Hills
Speaker:and he dropped me
Speaker:at my friend, Frankie's house
Speaker:and we went to
Speaker:this place called
Speaker:Carlos and Charlies on sunset.
Speaker:And then this woman arrived
Speaker:and she sat opposite
Speaker:me at the table.
Speaker:Her name is Susan Maneo
Speaker:and she managed Donna Summer
Speaker:and I could not
Speaker:stop staring at her.
Speaker:So I said to her, "Susan
Speaker:can I ask you a question?"
Speaker:She said, "Yes." I said, "Are
Speaker:you born again?"
Speaker:She said, "Yes."
Speaker:And I looked at her
Speaker:and I said, "You
Speaker:have something that I want
Speaker:and I know that I can't
Speaker:buy it with money."
Speaker:I wanted the peace that I saw
Speaker:in Susan Maneo's eyes.
Speaker:I had been searching
Speaker:for that peace my whole life
Speaker:through my unhappy childhood.
Speaker:Through my time of smoking
Speaker:dope, snorting coke,
Speaker:taking sleeping pills, drinking
Speaker:and so at the table
Speaker:they held my hands
Speaker:and I prayed.
Speaker:I accepted Yeshua.
Speaker:That's just the beginning.
Speaker:When Brian found out
Speaker:that I had received
Speaker:the Lord he went crazy.
Speaker:What are you doing?
Speaker:You're Jewish.
Speaker:This is all antisemitism
Speaker:blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker:I never really talked to Brian
Speaker:about what was in the Bible.
Speaker:I wasn't one of those
Speaker:people
Speaker:that hit him over the head
Speaker:with the Bible
Speaker:and all that stuff.
Speaker:I just quietly prayed
Speaker:and I lived.
Speaker:I lived what I had been reading
Speaker:but eventually he left.
Speaker:I stayed in that marriage
Speaker:for three years.
Speaker:I decided that I
Speaker:would get a divorce.
Speaker:If you read Isaiah 53,
Speaker:it tells you
Speaker:that He was pierced
Speaker:for our transgressions.
Speaker:All our iniquities
Speaker:were put on Him,
Speaker:and those stripes
Speaker:that were on His back
Speaker:are the very things
Speaker:that heal us because I
Speaker:was so lost in my heart,
Speaker:I know this to be true.
Speaker:So I would say to
Speaker:people that say to me
Speaker:you can't be Jewish
Speaker:and believe in Jesus,
Speaker:I would say, "I'm Jewish
Speaker:and I do believe in Jesus."
Speaker:Elaine
Speaker:found a peace and confidence
Speaker:she had never had before.
Speaker:Now, being secure in her faith
Speaker:as a Jewish believer,
Speaker:she is not ashamed
Speaker:of the gospel of Yeshua.
Speaker:Ken Barun is another bold
Speaker:believer in Yeshua.
Speaker:He now serves as
Speaker:the Executive Vice
Speaker:President of the Billy Graham
Speaker:Evangelistic Association.
Speaker:But this is definitely not
Speaker:who Ken was before.
Speaker:With a history
Speaker:of drug addiction
Speaker:and family estrangement,
Speaker:you will not believe
Speaker:how God miraculously
Speaker:turned his life around.
Speaker:How did a Jewish kid
Speaker:from New York City
Speaker:wind up as an executive Vice
Speaker:president of the Billy Graham
Speaker:Evangelistic Association?
Speaker:I remember coming
Speaker:home from school
Speaker:and these Catholic
Speaker:kids would chase me
Speaker:and then they
Speaker:started to throw rocks at me.
Speaker:"You killed Christ!"
Speaker:I don't even know who
Speaker:Christ is.
Speaker:I didn't kill anybody.
Speaker:The first time I had heroin,
Speaker:it was in the
Speaker:in the bathroom, men's bathroom
Speaker:at Grand Central Station
Speaker:in New York City.
Speaker:What a horrible
Speaker:degenerative kind of thing.
Speaker:How did a nice
Speaker:Jewish boy like me
Speaker:get into a place like this?
Speaker:And that led to a
Speaker:string of drug use
Speaker:and eventually got to
Speaker:where my parents disown me.
Speaker:I was kicked out.
Speaker:My father said,
Speaker:"I never want to see you again
Speaker:as long as I live."
Speaker:Now I had been a heroin
Speaker:addict for seven years
Speaker:and then some people
Speaker:from a drug program came
Speaker:and recruited me
Speaker:to go into this three-year
Speaker:residential treatment program.
Speaker:God was my imaginary friend.
Speaker:I said, "Please God,
Speaker:if you get me out of this one
Speaker:I'll never use drugs again."
Speaker:I wound up being president
Speaker:of this drug program.
Speaker:The President of
Speaker:the United States, comes
Speaker:to visit that program.
Speaker:Ronald Reagan shows up
Speaker:at the front door
Speaker:of this building
Speaker:and I'm hosting him.
Speaker:I sit there for two hours
Speaker:talking to the president
Speaker:telling him about this story
Speaker:and what happened to me.
Speaker:And then he spoke
Speaker:to the residents.
Speaker:He asked me first,
Speaker:he said, is it OK if I tell the
Speaker:residents of the program
Speaker:that your body is
Speaker:the temple of your spirit.
Speaker:I said, "You can tell them
Speaker:whatever you want, you're
Speaker:the President of
Speaker:the United States."
Speaker:The Chief of Staff, Jim
Speaker:Baker, he said, "We
Speaker:saw what you did
Speaker:with drug addicts.
Speaker:We'd like you to
Speaker:join the campaign,
Speaker:because just think
Speaker:what you could do
Speaker:with Republicans."
Speaker:I'm in Washington,
Speaker:I'm- Here is my title, Deputy
Speaker:Assistant Secretary
Speaker:of Public Affairs
Speaker:slash, Public Liaison
Speaker:for the United States
Speaker:Department of Health
Speaker:and Human Services.
Speaker:Huge title
Speaker:I don't even know how you
Speaker:fit it on a business card.
Speaker:It was like a miracle.
Speaker:I mean things kept
Speaker:falling into place.
Speaker:Going to England,
Speaker:being the guest of
Speaker:the Royal family.
Speaker:Private visits with the Pope.
Speaker:The Dalai Lama.
Speaker:And I wound up becoming
Speaker:president of Ronald
Speaker:McDonald House
Speaker:Charities worldwide.
Speaker:When I started there,
Speaker:we had $300,000.
Speaker:When I left in 2007,
Speaker:we had $1.6 billion.
Speaker:I was doing well.
Speaker:But my heart was all messed up.
Speaker:I was like
Speaker:searching
Speaker:how am I going to ever
Speaker:get happy?
Speaker:You could pay me
Speaker:all the money in the world,
Speaker:give me nice
Speaker:cars, a nice house.
Speaker:All this success
Speaker:that I was having didn't
Speaker:fill this emptiness in me.
Speaker:If I could
Speaker:just find this answer
Speaker:that this pain would go away.
Speaker:This auto race came up.
Speaker:It was a one lap of America,
Speaker:a car and driver
Speaker:magazine sponsored this
Speaker:and we would get pledges
Speaker:for miles driven
Speaker:and we arranged for people
Speaker:to drive fancy cars, fast cars.
Speaker:I had met a gentleman
Speaker:who owned the one McDonald's
Speaker:restaurant in Atlanta, GA.
Speaker:Name is Paul Sabre.
Speaker:I arranged for him
Speaker:and his friend to come up
Speaker:from Albuquerque
Speaker:and drive a Ferrari,
Speaker:and it was all logoed up.
Speaker:It looked like one
Speaker:of those NASCAR cars
Speaker:with all kinds of logos on it.
Speaker:It had Ronald McDonald House
Speaker:charities on it.
Speaker:I'm driving and he says,
Speaker:"Kid, go faster,
Speaker:go faster we're on two lane
Speaker:highways, go fast."
Speaker:I said, "Paul,
Speaker:you don't act like you're
Speaker:afraid to die."
Speaker:He says, "I'm not,
Speaker:'cause I know where I'm
Speaker:going." I said, "What
Speaker:does that mean?"
Speaker:And he says, "Now,
Speaker:let me tell you about
Speaker:my friend, Jesus."
Speaker:Then he starts to talk to me
Speaker:about his religion.
Speaker:He said, "You need to accept
Speaker:Jesus Christ into your life."
Speaker:And I screech on the brakes
Speaker:and pulled aside
Speaker:and said, "Look,
Speaker:I'm a Jew." He said, "No.
Speaker:You would be a completed
Speaker:Jew." Right,
Speaker:So what does that mean?
Speaker:He said that means
Speaker:that you've accepted
Speaker:Jesus as your savior,
Speaker:that you've accepted that
Speaker:Jesus is the Messiah, that
Speaker:Jesus went to the cross
Speaker:and died for our sins.
Speaker:Well, that was a big
Speaker:philosophical conversation.
Speaker:I knew as a Jew that
Speaker:we weren't supposed
Speaker:to read the New Testament.
Speaker:It was taboo.
Speaker:When I opened it up, I saw that
Speaker:it was just an extension
Speaker:of the Old Testament.
Speaker:It completed the story for me.
Speaker:If that's going to fill
Speaker:up this emptiness,
Speaker:then how do we do it?
Speaker:I mean, do I need to
Speaker:go to a synagogue?
Speaker:Do I need to like
Speaker:step on a glass and
Speaker:or build
Speaker:a chuppah or something?
Speaker:He said no.
Speaker:Just pray with me.
Speaker:God forgive me for my sins.
Speaker:I accept Jesus as my savior.
Speaker:I repent
Speaker:for all
Speaker:the things I've done wrong
Speaker:and I ask you to
Speaker:come into my heart
Speaker:and into my soul,
Speaker:clean this stuff out
Speaker:and make me new again.
Speaker:And I started sobbing
Speaker:and the tears were
Speaker:coming out of me
Speaker:and it was like a
Speaker:fog came over me.
Speaker:I couldn't stop sobbing.
Speaker:But I felt like this
Speaker:whole weight had been
Speaker:lifted off my shoulders
Speaker:that I had been freed.
Speaker:This emptiness was full.
Speaker:It was a physical reality.
Speaker:I said, you know,
Speaker:I've heard this word born again
Speaker:Christian a whole lot of times.
Speaker:I never,
Speaker:ever would have believed that
Speaker:I would be one of them.
Speaker:But I know,
Speaker:after that night
Speaker:what it's like to
Speaker:be born again.
Speaker:So I called up my father
Speaker:and I figured I'm
Speaker:getting disowned again.
Speaker:But I might as well tell him
Speaker:'cause I was so excited
Speaker:about it, and I said,
Speaker:"Dad!" He said, "Kenny,
Speaker:how are you?
Speaker:What's going on?"
Speaker:I said, "I want to tell you
Speaker:something happened last night."
Speaker:He said, "What is it?"
Speaker:I said, "Last night
Speaker:I prayed to accept Jesus Christ
Speaker:as my Lord and Savior."
Speaker:(He) Didn't say a word.
Speaker:He started to cry.
Speaker:He started sobbing.
Speaker:My mother gets on
Speaker:the other phone, "What
Speaker:did you say to your father
Speaker:to get him so upset?
Speaker:You know he's not well.
Speaker:He's 85 years old.
Speaker:He's in a wheelchair."
Speaker:Blah-blah-blah-blah-blah,
Speaker:typical Jewish mother.
Speaker:So I told her.
Speaker:It was dead silence.
Speaker:Dead silence.
Speaker:I figure I better hang up now
Speaker:so I don't have to hear
Speaker:about it.
Speaker:And she came back
Speaker:into the conversation
Speaker:said, "He's not crying
Speaker:tears of sadness,
Speaker:he's crying tears of joy
Speaker:because when we were looking
Speaker:for help for you
Speaker:with your drug problem,
Speaker:we found Jesus too."
Speaker:How did I get from here
Speaker:to there?
Speaker:All about Jesus.
Speaker:Ken's testimony reminds us
Speaker:that when we surrender to God,
Speaker:he can rewrite any story.
Speaker:An unlikely believer in Jesus,
Speaker:Ken is now faithfully
Speaker:helping to share the word
Speaker:with all the nations.
Speaker:We hope these testimonies
Speaker:remind you
Speaker:that there is no person
Speaker:or circumstance too
Speaker:difficult for God's restore.
Speaker:He is always reaching out,
Speaker:pursuing and waiting
Speaker:and in His perfect time,
Speaker:He will make all things new.
Speaker:This year, as we wait
Speaker:on the Lord for new
Speaker:season to begin,
Speaker:let us persist in hope
Speaker:and steadfast endurance.
Speaker:Because He has given us
Speaker:a new heart in spirit
Speaker:through Messiah,
Speaker:we can now walk in
Speaker:hope and freedom
Speaker:as we wait until the
Speaker:Messiah comes again.
Speaker:We hope you've enjoyed this
Speaker:week's episode of Our Hope.
Speaker:This episode was
Speaker:brought to you by.
Speaker:Dr.
Speaker:Mitch Glaser, Abe
Speaker:Vazquez, Grace Swee,
Speaker:Kieran Bautista,
Speaker:and IFoundShalom.com
Speaker:in partnership
Speaker:with One for Israel.
Speaker:I'm Nicole Vacca.
Speaker:Until next time.
Speaker:Thanks for
Speaker:listening to Our Hope.
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