Ever wonder why some people get healed and others don't? Join us for an honest conversation about faith, medicine, and discovering God in the midst of chronic illness.

Jenny Mariner brings refreshing honesty to one of faith's most challenging questions: Where is God when healing doesn't come? Drawing from scripture and personal stories, including her own pregnancy struggles and her father-in-law's 20-year battle with chronic pain, she explores why we live in the "messy middle" between God's healing power and life's ongoing struggles.

Journey with us through:

[03:15] When Perfect Bodies Rebel

Jenny shares her pregnancy story and sudden empathy for those living with chronic pain.

"I thought having doubts meant I was failing. Then I read the Psalms and realised David asked God harder questions than I ever dared to."

What we explore:

• Why temporary discomfort teaches us about chronic conditions
• The difference between choosing difficulty and having it thrust upon you
• How physical pain can produce spiritual empathy
• Permission to be grumpy when your body betrays you

Key takeaway: God's not shocked by your frustration with your body.

[14:00] Living on Saturday

Understanding the theological framework for why healing sometimes doesn't come.

"We live on the Saturday between Good Friday and Easter Sunday - we know Jesus won, but we don't always see it."

What we unpack:

• Why the "now and not yet" matters for healing
• How fallen creation affects our bodies
• The difference between God's power and control
• Finding hope when prayers seem unanswered

Key takeaway: Not being healed doesn't mean God's absent - it means we're living between the cross and complete restoration.

[22:00] Medicine and Miracles Working Together

Why reaching for the medicine cabinet doesn't mean lacking faith.

"Believe God for healing, but also go to the doctor, find out what's wrong with you, and that way you can target your faith."

Practical wisdom about:

• Biblical examples of medical care
• When God works through treatment
• Why the West sees fewer miracles
• Balancing faith and practical action

Key takeaway: God heals supernaturally AND through medicine - both reflect His care.

[42:00] Finding God in Chronic Illness

How suffering becomes a unique context for experiencing grace.

"We rejoice in our sufferings because suffering produces perseverance, perseverance character, and character hope."

Hope for the long journey:

• The gift of lament in processing pain
• How chronic illness can deepen faith
• Supporting others through lengthy struggles
• Finding meaning when healing doesn't come

Key takeaway: Sometimes God's most significant work happens not through healing but through sustaining us in ongoing weakness.