In episode 16 of In Light of the Cross, we dig into David as a central Old Testament figure who powerfully points to Jesus. Using David and Goliath as our launching pad, we push back on the usual “be brave like David” take and instead read the story as salvation: Israel needs a substitute, and God wins through apparent weakness—foreshadowing Christ’s victory over sin and death at the cross, a victory shared with his people.
We also explore how the battle has a spiritual-warfare backdrop, including connections to the Nephilim and the “giants” tradition. From there we trace David’s kingdom as a glimpse of what could be, his great sin with Bathsheba, and God’s forgiveness, showing why we still need the true Anointed One and the everlasting kingdom fulfilled in Jesus.
00:00 Welcome and Setup
01:06 Why David Matters
02:14 David Points to Christ
02:57 Rethinking David and Goliath
03:47 Victory Through Weakness
05:36 Nephilim and Spiritual War
09:00 Cross as Cosmic Victory
10:14 Kingdom Glory and Fall
11:18 Promise Fulfilled in Jesus
12:20 Wrap Up and Prayer
Alright.
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:Welcome to day 17 or episode 17 of.
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:In light of the cross, our podcast where
we are trying to understand everything
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:in light of the cross and in particular,
we've been focusing a lot the past three
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:weeks on the Old Testament and how that
can be understood only in light of the
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:cross of Jesus Christ and what he's doing.
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:So today we're coming to one of the
highlights of the Old Testament,
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:and that is the story of David.
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:let's just begin with the word of
prayer praying that we'll be able to,
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:to include the right things we will all
be able to receive them in the right way.
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:so let's talk about David.
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:Nathan.
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:What's the one story everybody
knows about this guy?
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:Oh, David and Goliath, baby.
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:David and Goliath.
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:Right.
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:And we've heard that so
many times that I think.
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:We may not get all that's
happening there with that story.
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:And I'd like to use that kind of as
a launching pad to talk about David.
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:Okay, sure.
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:, Can I set us up with a little
bit of a canonical context?
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:Yeah, go for it.
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:So we left off with Ruth and then we
saw that her great grandson was David.
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:And then after Ruth comes First
and Second Samuel and One Second
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:Kings and One Second Chronicles.
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:And really, um, in, in these books of the
Bible, God is telling the story of this
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:kingdom that is emerging in the center.
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:Central peace or person
of this is King David.
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:No, yeah, that's good.
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:Because David really is what everything
in a sense has been pointing towards.
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:And then the rest of these stories
of the kings after this are.
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:Kind of the follow up to that.
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:Some lived up to David's
standards and most of them didn't.
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:Uh, some lived up to them for a
while and then even when you get into
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:the prophets, they talk about the
kingdom of David is still to come.
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:So he's very much the central
figure of the Old Testament,
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:maybe with the exception of Moses.
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:but just like with Moses and the others,
he's still not the one who's gonna crush
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:the, the, the head of the serpent, right?
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:He has his own moral failings but
in this sense, he's an archetype
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:who's pointing to the Christ.
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:He is anointed by the prophet Samuel.
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:Which is where we get that Greek
word, uh, christas, which means
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:that the anointed one or the Hebrew
word macia, where we get Messiah.
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:So he is this anointed one, but he
is not the anointed one, so to speak.
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:Exactly.
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:There is no figure in the Old Testament
that begins to come close to David
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:in pointing towards Jesus Christ.
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:He's the anointed, and again, the
Greek word is Christos or Christ.
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:and there are so many parallels between.
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:David and Jesus, we can't go into 'em all.
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:But even the, the Psalms he writes,
so many of them find their fulfillment
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:in Jesus, not just in David's life.
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:Yeah.
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:So one of the first things we see about
David though is his story of David and
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:Goliath, and I've heard so many sermons.
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:And seen so many kids' movies about
this, where the emphasis is on how
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:great and brave David was and how
he's a model or an example to us.
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:by trusting God you can face all the
giants in your life and all that.
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:Wasn't that, uh, facing the Giants
movie kinda, uh, probably you
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:remember that one football movie.
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:And let me tell you, uh,
yeah, that's all bunk.
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:That's not what the story is about.
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:He is courageous, but
maybe he is courageous.
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:Not the main point there.
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:No.
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:And the main point is not that we are
to follow David's example necessarily.
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:Remember the, the scripture is a
story of God and what he is doing.
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:God and not David is always
gonna be the hero of this story.
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:I like what Tim Keller writes
here in his book, preaching.
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:He said, if I read the story of David
and Goliath as basically giving me an
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:example, then it's really about me.
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:I must sum up the faith.
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:Encouraged to fight the giants in my life.
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:But if I think of the Bible as being
about the Lord and his salvation, and if
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:I read the David and Goliath text in that
light, it throws many things into relief.
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:The very point of the passage
was that the Israelites could
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:not face the giants themselves.
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:They needed a substitute who turned out
to be not a strong person, but a weak one.
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:Remember, David is still a boy, and
God uses to deliver his weakness
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:as the very means to bring about
the destruction of Goliath.
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:David triumphs through weakness
and his victory is imputed
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:To his people in his triumph.
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:They triumph.
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:How can one not recognize Jesus?
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:In this story?
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:Jesus faced the ultimate
giants sin and death.
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:Not at the risk of his life, but at the
cost of his life, but a triumph through
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:his weakness, and now his triumph is ours.
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:His victory is imputed to us.
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:Wow.
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:Yeah, that's good stuff.
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:I just had to include that.
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:Again, that's from Timothy Keller
in his book called Preaching is
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:a chapter there about preaching
Christ from every part of the Bible.
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:That's good.
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:That's good.
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:I was reading David, uh, this story of
David and Goliath a few months ago and
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:was just struck by even David's language.
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:It's all attributed to God.
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:I mean, David recognizes he doesn't
have any strength in and of himself.
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:But my God.
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:And you'll see Goliath, that
the God of Israel is stronger
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:than you and your gods, right?
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:Yeah.
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:I mean, if you read it in context,
not only David's words, but kind
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:of the whole background of this,
this is a spiritual warfare battle.
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:This isn't just about some
kid facing a physical giant.
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:Goliath is linked to.
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:The Nephilim all the
way back to Genesis six.
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:Ooh.
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:Say more about that.
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:What are those?
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:Okay.
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:Well, in Genesis six, you
have what I think is a story.
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:I mean, there's different ways of
interpreting this of some sort of
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:angelic being to fall, uh, into
sin and take human wives and says,
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:the offspring of this are nephi.
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:And the word means fallen ones.
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:It describes them as somehow
being opposed to God's work.
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:And part of what they're doing, brings
about the, the destruction of the flood.
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:So God's judgment is part of this, but
then it says the Nephilim were on the
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:earth in those days and also afterwards.
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:So did this happen again or did some
of them survive the flood in some way?
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:We're not told about that,
but there is still Nephilim.
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:Afterwards, and they are
linked in one passage.
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:I think it's, in, numbers to the, to
the giants in the land of Israel, the
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:children of Rafa or the descendants
of Rafa, the Raphaelites and Goliath
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:and his family are linked to that And
I think it's Second Chronicles one
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:and are linked to that in one of the
descriptions in the Old Testament.
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:it's not that the Philistines were
all giants, but some of those Nephilim
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:giants, the children of Rafa or or
Anana Kites, children of Anec were
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:still around and they apparently
assimilated into the Philistine army.
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:So when you read it against that backdrop,
you've got this theological stream from
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:the line of Seth and Noah and Abraham and
all this, all the way to David, right?
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:And then you've got this other
lineage that comes really from um,
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:half bred, how do you say this?
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:Uh, children of fallen angels and humans.
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:Yeah.
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:And basically their sin was to
rebel against God by refusing
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:their rightful place and creating
this, half breed between.
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:Humans and angelic beings, which was
a violation of God's created order.
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:So in a sense, they're doing
the same thing as Adam and Eve.
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:They're just doing it in a
different and more cosmic sense.
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:They're rejecting the place that God
put them in and reaching for more.
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:And so, again, the main point is that
there is this spiritual battle between
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:these often unseen forces against
God who influence human behavior.
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:And, and God's plan and God's purpose.
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:So the story of David and the
story of David and Goliath is
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:really a story of salvation.
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:Over God's enemies, which finds its
ultimate fulfillment in Jesus defeating
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:the enemies of God at the cross.
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:Hmm.
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:I love this.
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:It's, it's not that, um, redemption kind
of payment angle of what Christ is doing,
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:um, or even that, imputed righteousness
onto humans as much as it's that.
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:Victory, like God wins in the story.
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:Yes.
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:David knows it.
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:He says it, he's like,
man, I'm gonna kill you.
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:And, uh, you'll see that God,
our God is be bigger and better
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:than yours and he does it.
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:And then, uh, there's, there's
victory in Israel and that points
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:to what Christ does and overcoming,
having victory over sin and death.
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:Right.
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:Yeah.
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:If you remember.
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:Way back at the beginning, we talked
about sin as breaking the commands,
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:and so God justifies us through Christ.
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:We talked about it.
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:as betraying or breaking the relationship
between God and us, and you have words
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:like redemption and the temple imagery
to talk about God restoring that.
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:We talk about forfeiting the
life God, desire for us to have.
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:And we see again that restoration or
redemption theme running through that.
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:Mm-hmm.
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:God's restoring us to that through
the price he pays of redemption.
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:And then it's also siding with God's
enemies and becoming enslaved to them.
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:And the cross is also the work by which
God defeats those enemies through apparent
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:weakness and shares that victory with us.
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:Hmm.
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:So there is the, the victory of God.
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:That's a beautiful and
hope giving statement.
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:Yeah, it is.
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:Even though we continue to experience
the effects of the fall, ultimately.
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:God wins.
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:Yep.
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:And Revelation 21, right.
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:There will be a day where no more pain
or tears or suffering, um, will occur
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:because those things are associated
with sin and death, and that is undone
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:by the victory of Christ in the cross.
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:Right.
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:So David defeats Goliath and then
goes on to establish a kingdom.
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:Yeah, he does.
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:And it's almost like a, a
small glimpse of what could be.
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:Hmm.
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:For a little while, it has such glory.
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:You know, David is there.
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:He's proven a true shepherd to his people.
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:God is blessing his people.
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:Giving them rest on every side from their
enemies for a little while is perfect.
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:And then David Sins greatly by
taking Bathsheba, committing
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:an adultery with her, arranging
for her husband to be murdered.
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:And, eventually God forgives.
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:Right.
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:God is a God of forgiveness.
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:Dave still points towards Christ,
but now he points to Christ more
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:by contrast, because he was not
able to do all that he should do.
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:He's still carrying this, uh, sin,
DNA, which is some point is gonna
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:come out even in the best of people.
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:That's why we need a new kind of humanity
through a new and second Adam Jesus.
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:And when Jesus arrives on the scene,
the first words out of his mouth in
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:the gospel of Matthew are repent for
the kingdom of heaven has come near.
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:Yeah.
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:So you see, even what Jesus is
doing, is framed in language of, in
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:the language of the kingdom, right?
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:Uh, that place where God rules and
all has come under the authority
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:and perfection of King Jesus.
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:So that's a really.
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:Really strong connection there.
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:Yeah, it is.
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:It says that the promise that God
gave to David was that a descendant
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:from your own body, so your own
biological lineage would sit on the
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:throne forever, and that is fulfilled
in Jesus, a different kind of kingdom.
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:But yeah, it is a kingdom and we are
saved to be brought into that kingdom
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:and share his victory with him.
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:So you've preached an entire
sermon series on the life of David.
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:Yeah.
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:There's so much more depth here.
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:Yeah, there's like 14 weeks or something,
you know, but we are just tracing
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:that theme that when you view these
stories in light of the cross, we
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:see that God is continually faithful.
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:moving all of creation toward a particular
point that is, consummated in Christ
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:in his life and death and resurrection.
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:And so, we hope you all as listeners have
been recognizing this and growing in your
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:appreciation that the work of God doesn't
begin when Jesus of Nazareth comes on the
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:scene, but has roots far deeper than that.
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:And really it's, um, I love
the title of Egg Clown's book.
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:That it is this unfolding mystery.
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:That through Abraham and Isaac and
Jacob and Joseph and, um, all, you
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:know, the judges and their various
ways of comparison and contrast, and
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:Ruth and now David, we see the work
of God at hand and it's, it's an
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:image that is becoming clearer and
clearer and focus and points to Jesus.
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:Yep.
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:It's a story of God's redemptive
work within this world in cosmos, and
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:it's centered around Jesus Christ.
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:Amen.
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:Yeah,
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:I think for a word of application or
a time of reflection, maybe the only
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:thing appropriate today is to simply
thank God, to think about the depth
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:of his salvation, the breadth of what
it does, and to just thank him, to
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:celebrate that, to claim it for your life.
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:And to walk as someone who's
been redeemed or brought into
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:his kingdom sharing his victory.
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:So why don't I take a few minutes
right now, ask God to just show
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:you what this means in your life.
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:Let's conclude with the prayer that
our king Jesus taught us to pray.
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:Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name.
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:Your kingdom come, your will be
done on earth as it is in heaven.
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:Give us today our daily bread
and forgive us our debts as we
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:also have forgiven our debtors.
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:And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from the evil one.
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:Amen.