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From Law to Bitcoin with Jacqui: "Bitcoin is not a scam. It's... legit." - Part 2
Episode 353rd August 2023 • Orange Hatter • Tali Lindberg
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In this episode, Jacqui discusses:

  • The importance of diversification in investments.
  • Venturing into Bitcoin mining and buying a node.

Highlights:

  • Jacqui's passion for ensuring everyone understands Bitcoin's potential.
  • Real-life parallels between traditional banking and Bitcoin transactions.
  • A brief intro into the complex world of Bitcoin mining and its role in creating and verifying transactions.

Tali offers insights on:

  • The increasing significance of Bitcoin amidst rising inflation.

About Jacqui:

CEO of the Blockchain Legal Institute (BLI.Tools)

Author of 'The Best 5 Minute Crypto Wealth Organizer' and 'The Bitcoin Cinderella & Her Adventures on the Blockchain.'

Founder, CryptoMom2 Consulting

To book a consult, visit www.cryptomom2.com

Follow CryptoMom2

Instagram: cryptomom2_bitcoincinderella

Twitter: @CryptoMom2Show

LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/-cooper-jd-cryptomom2-talkshow

www.bitcoincinderellashop.com

www.bitcoincinderella.com

To learn more about Bitcoin: Join the Orange Hatter Women's Reading Club. Visit https://www.meetup.com/womensbitcoinreadingclubwithorangehatter

Please email questions/comments to Tali@orangehatter.com

Remember: Knowledge is empowerment! 🍊🎩

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Transcripts

Tali:

Hi everybody, welcome to Orange Hatter.

Tali:

Today you'll listen to part two of my conversation with Jacqui.

Jacqui:

As an author, I've created different books and resources for

Jacqui:

individuals to, uh, to have access to.

Jacqui:

And as a lawyer, I felt it was really important, both for my own daughter to

Jacqui:

know, as well as for other families, because our, our goal in looking at this

Jacqui:

is not just, not to play with it, but to use it, and to have it support us.

Jacqui:

And so, but if...

Jacqui:

I know, I know as, and, and I'll, I'll say this as a woman and as a lawyer,

Jacqui:

even though I'm very intelligent, I'm not always financially smart...

Jacqui:

in the past.

Jacqui:

And so I had to learn how to handle my own finances, and I had to learn

Jacqui:

how to be fiscally responsible, because I wasn't taught this.

Jacqui:

It wasn't until I learned about Bitcoin and this whole community that I started

Jacqui:

getting excited about figuring out, okay, what do I want to do with this?

Jacqui:

And, you know, financial future.

Jacqui:

So that's why this was very important for me.

Jacqui:

And that's why, you know, I, I started my talk show, to help

Jacqui:

people learn more about it.

Jacqui:

And I wrote different books, because I really thought that there

Jacqui:

had been a gap in my own outlook.

Jacqui:

And I wanted, and as I realized that that was a deficiency in where what I

Jacqui:

had been exploring, I wanted to help others kind of awaken and just understand

Jacqui:

that it's not, it's not that difficult.

Jacqui:

It's okay.

Tali:

Yeah.

Tali:

That's so, so needed right now.

Tali:

I think that a lot of women are in the same place.

Tali:

And it's sort of a silent handicap, because we don't

Tali:

necessarily talk about it openly.

Tali:

So I wanna go back to a statement that you made earlier, about how you came across

Tali:

Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general...

Tali:

was when you said you were planning for your retirement.

Tali:

Now, typically when people talk about planning for retirement, you

Tali:

are thinking 401k, you know, Roth IRA and maybe a mutual fund, or

Tali:

maybe you have some collection of stocks, right, that you've chosen

Tali:

or somebody else has chosen for you.

Tali:

Or maybe even real estate, like rental properties where you're

Tali:

getting passive income, hopefully.

Tali:

So what made you look outside that basket and start examining

Tali:

cryptocurrency and Bitcoin?

Jacqui:

Yeah.

Jacqui:

So I do wanna say there is risk in everything you do.

Jacqui:

So you, if you are investing in any cryptocurrency, Bitcoin, whatever.

Jacqui:

I, again, you know, I don't wanna have people kind of be upset with me.

Jacqui:

You have to be willing to lose anything you put in.

Jacqui:

But on the flip side...

Jacqui:

and that's true with stocks, too.

Jacqui:

That's true with traditional businesses, too.

Jacqui:

I'm both a, an attorney as well as a teacher.

Jacqui:

So, you know, when I first started in my teaching space...

Jacqui:

I'm a special educator for at least another year...

Jacqui:

so when I first started, you know, different people came to the school

Jacqui:

and said, hey, you need to open this up, you need to do this.

Jacqui:

And I thought, okay, fine.

Jacqui:

You know?

Jacqui:

And I just kind of let them manage and do.

Jacqui:

And then I was looking at the growth of it, and I thought,

Jacqui:

this is not doing very well.

Jacqui:

You know, I need to think twice about this.

Jacqui:

And so, you know, I made some personal decisions.

Jacqui:

I decided to pull out some of the funds that I had put into my IRA.

Jacqui:

And I'm not saying that anyone else should do what I did, because

Jacqui:

it's your own personal journey.

Jacqui:

And you have to make sure that you're not putting your money for...

Jacqui:

anything that you're gonna be investing in...

Jacqui:

in that you need for your food or your mortgage or your kids' education.

Jacqui:

You know, be strategic and be wise about this.

Jacqui:

But I decided to pull out, from my IRA, certain amount of funds,

Jacqui:

so I could become a Bitcoin miner.

Jacqui:

Because I felt that the, the daily drop of my Bitcoin would be a

Jacqui:

wiser investment than where it was.

Jacqui:

Now there's, without getting too technical, in March next spring, there's

Jacqui:

gonna be what's called a halving.

Jacqui:

So you know those that might wanna learn more about Bitcoin

Jacqui:

mining, you can reach out to me.

Jacqui:

There's a lot of things that you need to know when you're...

Jacqui:

become a Bitcoin miner.

Jacqui:

But I only became that after I had invested in Bitcoin on exchanges, you

Jacqui:

know, through the traditional way.

Jacqui:

And then I started to...

Jacqui:

I wasn't, when I was younger, I wasn't interested in stocks.

Jacqui:

It just felt boring to me.

Jacqui:

You know?

Jacqui:

So, so again, it wasn't until I learned about decentralized finance

Jacqui:

and Bitcoin and the purpose behind it and how it was helping people take

Jacqui:

control, and also that the cost of transferring from one person to another...

Jacqui:

BItcoin, you know, like in transactions was so small in comparison to some of

Jacqui:

the other bank wire type of options.

Jacqui:

You know, I just was exploring more and more.

Jacqui:

And so those are, those are the, the reasons why I looked at this

Jacqui:

from the retirement perspective.

Jacqui:

'Cause I was...

Jacqui:

there's a technical term if, if listeners don't know, it's called hodl.

Jacqui:

I was gonna hold onto my Bitcoin and not spend it.

Jacqui:

So I was looking at holding onto it.

Jacqui:

So in the long-term, wherever it was, whether it was high, whether it was low,

Jacqui:

that would be my long-term growth plan.

Jacqui:

So, you know, again, but that was a personal choice.

Jacqui:

Everyone has to make their own.

Jacqui:

I definitely believe in...

Jacqui:

diversify.

Jacqui:

I think that that, you know, is probably good advice to give to

Jacqui:

anyone, but everyone needs to figure out what do you want in your basket?

Jacqui:

And I think in everyone's basket, again, personal opinion, you

Jacqui:

should think about Bitcoin.

Jacqui:

Because Bitcoin is being used in IRAs now.

Jacqui:

It's being used, you know, in ETFs.

Jacqui:

I mean, again, there's a lot of financial products that are using Bitcoins.

Jacqui:

So it's becoming, it has always been mainstream, but it...

Jacqui:

when I say always, it's been around for over 13 years.

Jacqui:

Major companies were dabbling in it.

Jacqui:

They just weren't public about their dabble.

Jacqui:

So now people are becoming more public about the fact that they

Jacqui:

are getting involved with it.

Jacqui:

And as a result of that, that's why different governments and

Jacqui:

entities are looking at regulations.

Jacqui:

Just because, again, personal opinion, they want their hand in the pie.

Jacqui:

But you know, again, it's, there's, there's many levels to

Jacqui:

this and that's what's exciting about kind of exploring it.

Tali:

Yeah, definitely.

Tali:

Thank you for, for the explanation.

Tali:

I think that a lot of people can really relate to that thinking process, because

Tali:

we all want to have a secure future.

Tali:

You work so hard for decades, and you want to be able to retire and not

Tali:

have to worry about a groceries bill.

Tali:

Right?

Tali:

And with inflation going on the way that it is, there are some people who

Tali:

are on fixed income who are worried.

Tali:

So I wanna, I wanna ask you about Bitcoin mining, because, um, some

Tali:

of our audience out there probably don't really understand what that is.

Tali:

And for, for a person to go from, let me explore Bitcoin, to it's a real

Tali:

thing, to you know what, I'm gonna be part of the ecosystem, and in fact

Tali:

I'm going to invest in the mining machine and then become even a more

Tali:

integrated part of the Bitcoin protocol.

Tali:

I mean, that journey...

Tali:

I mean, you really believe in it, right?

Tali:

Otherwise you wouldn't be participating in it.

Tali:

And so can you talk a little bit more about just that journey, where you

Tali:

went from I've heard about Bitcoin, to I'm gonna buy some, to actually,

Tali:

I'm gonna be a part of the protocol?

Jacqui:

Yeah, it's been a, I like to get my hands, I say dirty, but from the

Jacqui:

perspective of understanding the tech side, even though I'm not very technical.

Jacqui:

I also, just as an add-on to that, recently bought a node.

Jacqui:

And nodes are part of the process of verifying Bitcoin.

Jacqui:

And they're not miners, but they're part of the the process.

Jacqui:

So, uh, and on the, my node...

Jacqui:

I'm, I'm looking at it right now...

Jacqui:

it has my Bitcoin wallet.

Jacqui:

It has a lightning wallet, which is a whole 'nother area that we can talk about,

Jacqui:

you know, down the road if you want.

Jacqui:

It has a Bitcoin point-of-sale type of platform, so that way, if I was to sell

Jacqui:

my book on it, "the Bitcoin Cinderella", which I'll talk about in a second.

Jacqui:

It's available on Amazon, but if I wanted to sell it on a Bitcoin

Jacqui:

marketplace, then people would be able to buy it in that marketplace.

Jacqui:

The Bitcoin, consider it like a currency.

Jacqui:

If someone's buying the book, it would drop into the point-of-sale.

Jacqui:

So think of it like MasterCard or PayPal or one of those others, and then it

Jacqui:

would go from that over to my wallet.

Jacqui:

So it's no different than a traditional bank, where if you buy something,

Jacqui:

okay, well let's use Amazon.

Jacqui:

You buy something from Amazon, you use PayPal, you know the, the person who has

Jacqui:

the product gets paid, and then, you know, goes over to the bank account at that...

Jacqui:

and so it's like a whole ecosystem stream.

Jacqui:

That ties into, you know, actually why I became a, a miner is because I realized

Jacqui:

that as people were obtaining Bitcoin...

Jacqui:

those Bitcoin that you buy on platforms, the exchanges,

Jacqui:

have to be created somewhere.

Jacqui:

And 'cause they're not being created on the exchanges, that is the

Jacqui:

public marketplace for where you as a consumer will obtain the coin.

Jacqui:

Um, it sort of was like going to a bank and saying, okay, I want, I have $10.

Jacqui:

Give me, you know, exchange.

Jacqui:

But it's a little bit different.

Jacqui:

But you know, just think of it like that.

Jacqui:

So it has to originate somewhere.

Jacqui:

And in the United States, we have the Treasury, they print the money.

Jacqui:

For Bitcoin, it gets mined.

Jacqui:

And in order for it to get mined, it has to be, the mathematical

Jacqui:

equation has to be solved.

Jacqui:

And the, it's, it's, there's a lot of technical things that get into solving it.

Jacqui:

But when the, the equation is solved, then whichever rig solves

Jacqui:

that mathematical equation, it gets rewarded, because it solved it.

Jacqui:

And so it gets a small drop into a wallet, and then the Bitcoin that is mined,

Jacqui:

it's sent over to whoever's buying it.

Jacqui:

And there's also, part of this is verification of the system,

Jacqui:

because the mining verifies that the transaction is real.

Jacqui:

So there's no double spending.

Jacqui:

So that's also important, because there's checks and

Jacqui:

balances within the system and...

Jacqui:

you know, a lot of technical checks and balances.

Jacqui:

But that's the other reason why the blockchain has grown so much.

Jacqui:

It's so, I wanna, I'll use the word vested, even though

Jacqui:

my not be the right word.

Jacqui:

There's too many transactions going through now, that it won't disappear.

Jacqui:

It won't fall down, so to speak.

Tali:

Thanks for joining us today and learning with us today.

Tali:

If the discussion with our guest resonated with you and you would

Tali:

like to dive deeper into the world of Bitcoin, don't miss out on joining the

Tali:

Orange Hatter Women's Reading Club.

Tali:

The meetup link is in the show notes.

Tali:

Also, if there are women in your life whom you think would both enjoy and

Tali:

benefit from learning more about Bitcoin, please share Orange Hatter with them.

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