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In this episode of the Equipping ELLs podcast, host Beth Vaucher interviews Kavita Mahendra, sharing her inspiring journey from Hyderabad, India, to ESL excellence in the U.S.
Kavita reminisces about her multicultural childhood in Hyderabad and discusses the importance of embracing home languages. She sheds light on India's linguistic diversity and the significance of Hindi and English in uniting the nation. Kavita's personal experiences highlight the value of multilingualism and cultural identity in ELL education. Furthermore, she shares her transition to teaching ESL in the U.S., emphasizing the importance of unlearning and adapting instructional approaches. Kavita's passion for empowering educators and her impactful ESL initiatives in schools showcase her dedication to ELL success. This insightful conversation provides valuable tips for ESL teachers, emphasizing the importance of visibility, connection, and personalized student support. Tune in to hear Kavita Mahendra's teaching journey, and we know you'll leave inspired along your own!
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Beth Vaucher
Excellent. Wonderful. All right, let me hit record, and we will get started. Okay.
All right, here we go. Hello, Kavita. Welcome to the show. I'm so glad that you can join me today.
Kavita Mahendra
I am excited. Thank you for having me on.
Beth Vaucher
This is something that I absolutely love is just the connections that are made through equipping ells through email. I was able to come and do a presentation with your class that you've taught at a higher grad level class. We can talk about that in a little bit, but it's just been so great to connect with you in these different ways and now to have you on the show and share your story. So thank you.
Kavita Mahendra
I love it. And I still, I have teachers to talk about what a great session it was, and then I'm still sharing your resources with them and I absolutely love. And once we're done with the podcast, I'll share a picture, walk you around my classroom to show you what resources, how I use your resources.
Beth Vaucher
Oh, I love it.
Kavita Mahendra
Whole library downloaded and like itemized and stuff. And I absolutely. Absolutely love it.
Beth Vaucher
Amazing. Amazing. Well, we are going to get into what you're doing now, but I want you to take us back to your childhood. I want you to share about your upbringing and really paint a picture for us for about where you grew up and what it was like.
Kavita Mahendra
So I grew up in Hyderabad, which is very amazing that you already know a little bit about Hyderabad, and you have somebody like your husband, who traveled to Hyderabad as well. But Hyderabad is like a very cosmopolitan city where I grew up, and, like, I was the best. Happy childhood. We are five siblings, and we are very close in age. And my mom was a teacher. My dad worked in, like, a government office, but very protective dad, like, because he had these four girls and, yeah, so we were a lot into creating our own space. Like, we had no, like, restrictions on what we wanted to do. We grew up very, uh, listening to all kinds of music, reading a lot, and, like, a very happy childhood. Went to, uh, uh, the, uh, of a very good school in the neighborhood. Not in the neighborhood, but it was like a drive. But, um, we went to a christian school. So I have a lot of christian elements, like Christmas. I've done a Christmas play every year. Growing up, I was like Joseph because I was tall. And I remember, like, Christmas becoming, like, the very special part. We come home, then the indian holidays, so there was no restriction, and we kind of embraced a lot of cultures and, yeah, it was very, very nice growing up in Hyderabad. I have beautiful memories of growing up there.
Beth Vaucher
I love that. Did you, did your mom teach you the school that you went to?
Kavita Mahendra
She did not. My mom and dad were fluent in Urdu, which is like another language.
Beth Vaucher
Yeah.
Kavita Mahendra
And that we did not learn growing up because that was a language that they grew up learning because Hyderabad is a cultural city which was ruled by mughal rulers. And the part that she grew up in had schools which spoke, like, read and write in Urdu. So she was an urdu teacher, and she worked in a government school, which she wanted as, like, a public school in India is not like a very. A place that you want your kids to go to because it's a public school, doesn't. It's not as rich as public schools here. And we went to a semi private school, like a christian school, which was more regulated. It had more structure. So mom did not want us to go to the school that she was in because it was more like, you know, like a free school where it had people from all kinds of backgrounds, but we went to a different school.
Beth Vaucher
Okay, interesting. Now tell me, tell me a little bit. About? Because I know India has so many different languages. So what is the national language? And then how much do you know? I think there were 60 something different dialects, right?
Kavita Mahendra
I think a little more than that. The dialects keep changing as you keep going into the interior of India. But let me start from the beginning. What I talk about when I talk about India is.
Beth Vaucher
Yeah.
Kavita Mahendra
Share a little bit about that. 32, 33 states, the last I heard, because they're still making individual states. Okay, so 32 states, and each state has its own language.
Beth Vaucher
Wow.
Kavita Mahendra
So talking about 32 languages. And if, like, I always take this example of, like, I tell my kids to. If you drive from Dallas to Illinois or you drive from Dallas to, say, California, you see the same McDonald's, you see the same taco bell, you. Nothing changes. The landscape doesn't change. Right. Except for weather wise. Right. But in India, when you travel from, like, enter one city to the other, everything changes. Billboards change. Everything changes. So you're, like, you're not supposed to know every language because Hindi is the language of the country that binds it together.
Beth Vaucher
Got it.
Kavita Mahendra
And that being said, English is the language in which all. All the official work happens. Like the news. There's a national newscast in English, but then every state has its own regional channels.
Beth Vaucher
Wow. Yeah.
Kavita Mahendra
So it's very, very rich and very, very diverse and very. It's very. A little difficult to understand because I'm explaining it from the roots up. It's easier to understand, but, like, it's very difficult to understand. Like, if I take a flight from the north of the country, to the south of the country, like, I land in the airport, and the language changes.
Beth Vaucher
Yeah, no, that's really fascinating. So what language did you speak in your house?
Kavita Mahendra
I spoke Hindi.
Beth Vaucher
Okay.
Kavita Mahendra
Pakistan and India after. In:Beth Vaucher
Yeah.
Kavita Mahendra
So when my mom got married and came into my dad's family, they mostly speak Hindi, so they kept the Hindi. So we learned, like, we heard all of that. And then, you know, in India, we also talk about hired help, like maids. We get, like, we have a lot of people who have help out with like jobs because of the. Because that is the possibility. In India, all the maids who lived like in the neighborhood that would come spoke Telugu, which is like the black. So we learned, like, without realizing everybody has three languages.
Beth Vaucher
Wow. Wow. What language did you speak in school?
Kavita Mahendra
It was Hindi, friends, like lunch and recess and everything. But the teaching happened in English.
Beth Vaucher
Wow. I mean, I think we just need to pause here for a second because this is what I absolutely love about hearing people's stories is it's something, you know, that's so different from my upbringing of growing up in the northwest of Chicago, close to where you're at and just operating in English. That's what I heard. And that was. That was it. And so to hear how, I mean, I think I just read a statistic that half the world speaks more than one language. And so your experience is much more like most, you know, many people in the world have, growing up in a home where multiple languages are happening at school, there's one language they might have help that has one language. So it's just going in and out of languages all day is truly remarkable. And I think what you're saying too is at that age, you don't even realize how unique that is to be able to change and switch languages just like that so easily.
Kavita Mahendra
So that's why I tell my parents all the time, like, because when you come to the US, people think that, oh, my children should speak only English. But the reason why I advocate to have the home language is for the comfort. Like, you know, like, I also talked about the language of emotions. When a mom is singing a lullaby, it's coming from the heart. And English lullaby is going to be so fake, right?
Beth Vaucher
Yes, yes.
Kavita Mahendra
So I tell my parents, like, what comes to you? Like, when I go and hug my daughter and my son, like, I'm resorting right back to, like, how are you feeling? I'm not saying, how are you feeling? I'm saying, like, you know, I'm saying it in Hindi because that's what I'm used to since they were babies. And when I'm meeting people like my family who are like, from different parts of the country, from Hyderabad itself, but like, when we are, they are coming from different parts of the world. And we meet at a family wedding, which I was at recently, last week in New Jersey, we speak Hindi. It's like, it flows well.
Beth Vaucher
Yes.
Kavita Mahendra
And the room is rocking with, like, language because in English, you are so controlled because English is the language of work. Right. But in Hindi, like, we have music going. In Hindi, we have like, the minute you start eating, like, food, I think every. All barriers go away. Then the language comes out.
Beth Vaucher
Oh, amazing. I bet that was such a great time well, and I think, too, you know, how our brain works is contextually. And so in an environment like you're saying, there's heart languages. So with family, you know, that language naturally comes out or in school settings or in work settings, you know, if you're just used to always speaking English in that setting, it's very hard to all of a sudden switch. And I've seen that with my own children of, you know, as they're learning Spanish and they know exactly who they speak Spanish to without even knowing, oh, I'm going to now speak Spanish. They just see someone and they go, oh, this is. Is the language that we speak between each other. And so it's really a remarkable thing that happens subconsciously of just kind of knowing the situation, knowing the environment, and knowing which language is best to use. And so it's really incredible. And it's important work to, you know, as those who are listening to encourage exactly what you're saying, encouraging the parents of our ell students to continue the native language and keeping that up, because that is that heart connection piece. That is where they're going to be able to hold on to their identity and their cultural identity, of what they know, of what their family is, you know, and really keep that heart language a part of who they are. And so I think that that's really important that we really encourage parents in that.
Kavita Mahendra
Right. And, like you were talking about your children switching to Spanish. It was, it's so funny. My kids, whenever we had a phone call from India, the minute I give them the phone, they whole language changes. They switch to Hindi because they know grandparents don't speak English.
Beth Vaucher
Yeah, yeah.
Kavita Mahendra
Even now when we meet, like, my kids are older, like, but when we meet family and when we have family over, if they see an older adult, like a grandma figure, they immediately talk in Hindi, which is kind of like, you know, they know the nuances of what happens with language. And my kids, when I, when I tell my students, I ask them, so how do you say this, juliana, in Spanish? She will say it very cutely. And then I have another student who professes to speak only English would be like, oh, Juliana is being appreciated. Let me bring out my Spanish, too. And so I'm always saying that, like, like, for most of my students say, yeah, my mom says that no English at home, only Spanish. So, which is like, and I advocate that, like, you know, you can speak English, but keep your language at home, the language that is the home language.
Beth Vaucher
And I think that's an important part to make because I know a lot of the listeners to this podcast are struggling because they're like, well, I don't know my students native language. I don't know Spanish, I don't know Hindi. And I think sometimes, though, that's to a benefit because the students know they have that and they know if my teacher doesn't know the language, I have to continue to push myself to communicate in English. And so I think there is a strength to that, too. For those who are listening and saying, I don't know another language, it's okay. And that's where it's a beautiful thing to learn together and asking the students, you know, how do you say this? I just had a friend over who she's teaching her son Arabic. And so we were talking about just, you know, vocabulary words. And it was really amazing to have these conversations of saying words, of just basic vocabulary in multiple languages and having those conversations and learning together. And that's the beauty of the positions that we're in, you know, to get to work with these incredible students.
Kavita Mahendra
So every time I ask that question, like, so you are an ESL teacher. Do you speak all those languages?
Beth Vaucher
Exactly.
Kavita Mahendra
And I have to say what you said, that I don't need to speak languages. I have an expertise in my education to be able to do the translanguaging piece and, like, also not even do the translanguaging, but also. So teach them because the pace is important, slower is important, and have the techniques to work with them. You don't need to speak the languages to, you know, it's a comfort. It's.
Beth Vaucher
Yes, yes, yes. Exactly. I know many people can relate to that because they get that same question asked all the time. So let's move on now to then further on in life. So you grew up in Hyderabad, and then tell us about your transition from Hyderabad to then moving to the US and about that experience.
Beth Vaucher
experience.
Kavita Mahendra
So when we were in Hyderabad, we got this opportunity because we got the green card to move here, and we were pretty much settled at that point. My son and daughter were, like, four and six. My son is older, so they were in first grade and kindergarten because school is earlier in India. And my whole family, my brother and my husband has four brothers. And they got this opportunity because my sister in law, who lives here in Texas, had filed for this when she came here 20 years back. It just, like, fell in our laps. Like, do you want to use this opportunity? And at that point, like, I was, like, 30 and my husband was 33, and we were like, okay, so we are. My husband has a PhD in urban planning with an architecture background, and I was teaching high school in India, so we were like, okay, so we know that teachers are needed in the US, and you got this qualifications, and then we are still younger. Let's go and make our life, you know, and always the grass is greener on the other side, and you don't want to let go of the opportunity. My other brother in law's, they're like, no, they were very set, their doctors and lawyers, and that doesn't translate well to come back here and do, like, ten year more of studies.
Beth Vaucher
Yeah.
Kavita Mahendra
So we kind of. My husband had a business there, and he was teaching in. In school, in a college. We wrapped that up, which was along taking away a couple years of our life. But we came here and we had our bumps, like, ups and downs and, like, reflecting on that, everything taught me a lot. And I started by volunteering in my kids classroom. I worked retail a year, which was a great experience. I know where my parents work when I asked them. I worked in a mall, in a store. I had crazy hours during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Am I going back? No, never. Wow. Yeah. Now when my parents say I work in McDonald's, I have that empathy because I've been there, you know? So we moved here, and then I went back to school to get my masters because I knew, like, being in classrooms, oh, boy, I have to unlearn everything that I knew. In my country, there's no way, like, teaching can translate completely in a classroom. Then I was sitting in my daughter's classroom, where I was volunteering a lot and teaching till today. I remember that day very clearly. I was teach. Seeing a first grade teacher teaching phonics, and I. I'm like, why is she taking so long? This is, like, kill and drill. It's done. But I sat there for, like, 40 minutes, and then I always see, like, that one. Paper my daughter brought back home, which was okay. But when I saw the transitions and what she was teaching, which I do today, I realized phonics is not just one sheet of paper. Phonics is not one page. Like, I teach the adult literacy classes at the college of Dupage. And when I do the phonics, the students, like, the adult students, their eyes open up. Why did nobody teach this before? Because we know that. So that made me realize, oh, my God, I need to unlearn everything and go back to school. So I went back to doing my masters very hard, very challenging. I was the only brown person in the whole class. Sitting there in my master's class.
Beth Vaucher
Wow.
Kavita Mahendra
I was like, you challenge. But it was great support. But then I went back to getting my master's in literacy education, which was, again, very, very helpful and brought me to this space, which is. I really appreciate. I really appreciate everything that I have done, but it is. Yeah, today we both. My husband works in a company where they do the. He's a project manager for a company where they manufacture ornamental. You know, the railroads, since the bus stops have those ornamental designs and the structures. He works there. Yeah, he develops in construction. And which. Does he love it? Not really, because he's a very big academician. He would love to go back to teaching, but we are making things work, and we are here. Both my daughters, like, I don't think I regret when I look at my daughters, my kids education, both of them went to, like, the best schools have the best education, and they're both working. And I'm very proud of where they are right now, because all what we've experienced has taught them a lot.
Beth Vaucher
Yes. Yeah. It was worth it to.
Kavita Mahendra
Yep, yep.
Beth Vaucher
Wow, that's. I mean, that's so insightful to hear your story of that, you know? Cause I think a lot of times when we work with students, and it's hard for them to really convey a lot that goes on in that transition from one culture to another. Did you know, in that time, did you feel like you were kind of ready to adjust to the US, or was it a big cultural shock for you? I mean, I know you had a lot of experience of being in a very big city in Hinderbad, so I'm sure it was very multicultural. But how was that just for you and your family of adjusting to moving to the US?
Kavita Mahendra
So when you move, there's a lot of space, which we appreciated. Like, I mean, even if you live in a small condo, which we started with, there's a lot of space because we had our own home in India, which was like a three bedroom home, which was in, which was smaller. But we didn't have this landscapes. We didn't have this old vistas that we see. We don't have those walking paths. We don't have that beautiful surroundings that we see. Like, it's Hyderabad being like a amazing city. It's very packed, it's very dense. So right away when we came here, my husband and I appreciated the space that we had, and it's always like, I think we are more challenged when we are moving from somewhere where we are, like, very rich resources and a very good place to something lower. But we kind of, like, felt that it was all like, I mean, we had a better, like, we are coming to a first world country with so many resources. So that was not a challenge. But the weather was a challenge because growing up in my tropical country.
Beth Vaucher
Yeah.
Kavita Mahendra
The first day when I saw snow, my sister in law was on the boat with me. Kavita, you will love it. You need to come here. You need to come here. Your kids have a great future. They will get a good education. When the first, no, on Thanksgiving Day, I opened the door and the whole driveway was white. I told her, I yelled at her, you didn't tell me about this. She says, no, the worst for the last. We still have that argument. Like, she didn't tell me the reality. She did. Summer, you know, summer is like how it is in Hyderabad. But I think right now I embrace winter. I love it. I love the quiet. We love taking walks in the winter. We love, like, that's a time where we go indoors and we are kind of, like, there. But, like, my husband and I are big hikers and walkers. We go out for walking. Last night we were walking and we realized we walked after a week and we walk more in the winter. Really? Yeah, in the fall and the winter more because I think the sun is out and the weather is like, oh, it's 40 degrees. We can still go for a walk. Yeah, yeah. It's very funny and also contradictory at the same time.
Beth Vaucher
Oh, wow. So tell us. I mean, that's a really powerful story of, you know, having to kind of unlearn what you had learned there. And now tell us, what are you doing now and share that.
Kavita Mahendra
So are you talking about my academic background?
Beth Vaucher
Yeah. What, your profession? Cause you have a few different roles that you have.
Kavita Mahendra
I do. I do. So till last year, I was teaching in college of DuPage as an adjunct faculty doing adult ESL classes because I started volunteering in CoD College of DuPage when I was a parapro. I don't know how that started, but I absolutely loved it and I just, it was, I think, a way of giving back. And I just, like, volunteered. And I also was also watching how things work. But then I got trained and I did that. But then I went back when I got my masters and now I had time because my kids were like, you know, we have an empty nesters. And I had time to go back and do my passions live my passions so I absolutely love teaching at the cod. But then my school district. I teach in Yorkville school district. I'm the ESL specialist in a k six building. It's the grand reserve. School is where I am. This is. I absolutely love my school. I absolutely love my admin. They are always on with me when I have, like, any paper plan. So this is my second home right now. I love it. And we moved homes because we were living an hour away.
Beth Vaucher
Oh, wow.
Kavita Mahendra
And in the last summer, I called my principal and I said, can you give me a letter of recommendation? I'm applying in Wheaton. She's like, no, Kavita, can we talk after a 24 hours silence, because my principal is never silent. And she said, okay, let me know what is making you move this road school, because we want you to sit down and talk to me about how much growth I have seen in your students and how can we make this make you stay? And then we had a conversation at home, and my kids are like, mom, you should stay where you're appreciated. Not going. So we moved. Yeah. So the 1 hour drive was like, yeah, 2 hours was draining me.
Kavita Mahendra
me.
Beth Vaucher
Yeah.
Kavita Mahendra
So we moved closer. Now we live 20 minutes away, but, yeah. So we moved to a new house and closer to work. And I also got, in Yorkville has. We got a huge grant to do the ESL classes because now we are seeing a huge growth in ESL students at Yorkville. So we tied up with Aurora University to teach ESL endorsement classes to the staff. Amazing. I was offered that position, and I had to make a decision in two weeks. Do I continue with cod or do I take this?
Beth Vaucher
Wow. Wow.
Kavita Mahendra
And this is like, my passion. Like, working with the anxiety was teaching staff because you're teaching your peers. But after two sessions, I'm right now in my second session, and I cannot even believe it. Like, I love it. The relationships I'm creating and what I am sharing. I just, like, love it. And I don't know. Aurora has an offer to me for me to teach undergrad courses. I don't know how much time I have on my plate, but I absolutely love the journey.
Beth Vaucher
Wow, that is so cool to hear and know you're going to. I mean, the bigger impacts you're going to make in the days ahead. That's very exciting. So tell me about. I mean, you're. Let's hit a little bit, because I'm sure those who are listening are wondering, how are you seeing growth? What are you doing that your students are having growth? Why don't you share some tips and advice for fellow ESL teachers?
Kavita Mahendra
inding. Then I'll be there at:Beth Vaucher
Yeah.
Kavita Mahendra
Nobody is missing that Brown teacher who's standing there because all of Yorkville, I'm the only brown teacher, right? So like, at the impacts and then I also co teach in classrooms. So I'm not only teaching ESL students, I'm teaching everybody else because I have the resources. I'm not going to keep them sheltered and like, you know, I'm not going to hide those resources. I co teach in classrooms, which makes me have a buy in with a lot of other students. So what happens is when I'm in the classroom co teaching, my students are like, oh, that's my teacher. They feel the pride when they come here, they are ready to learn. So the parent connections, the student connections, like, I don't think I can reach and have them do a worksheet till I tell them, how was your day, Isaac? How was the football game? How did you do? Do you like football? Do you do this? And they absolutely love that. And then another thing I started this year, I will pull this up because we are, I started doing journals. Oh, my God. What kids share, what kids share is amazing. And when I connect and talk about that one journal piece, and it is like, if I don't grade the journal, if I don't write like a piece of, like my piece and I don't. They get it. They know it. You didn't check my journal.
Beth Vaucher
You'd. They like that response.
Kavita Mahendra
They like the response and the parents like it. Oh, my God. I see them writing the journal and their handwriting improved very indirectly. Right? And then the journal is like their piece with me, that connection with me that they shared. They drop off every morning. There's a stream of students just dropping off their journals and going. And I tell them, you write every day. You have, I have a price box five days of the week. If you write, you get a prize. If you write two days, that's fine. You don't have to you can write how many of the days you want, but you write five days on Friday. You get a price from my price box. Oh, my God. I keep buying stuff on Amazon. They don't care. Silly erasers, you know, small stuff. But it's so important for them.
Beth Vaucher
Yes.
Kavita Mahendra
And they write. They write. Oh, boy, they write so much and they share. And then I see growth happening there. Whatever. I'm teaching in the classroom. I'm seeing it in their journals. So the connections are huge for me, I think academics. And I tell my teachers too when I'm teaching. Please don't judge a student. They come to my room. I taught this kavita like five times. My student is not getting this. Don't worry about it. Everything is staying there. Everything is staying there. K to five is absorption, assimilation, growth, learning, understanding. I don't think. You should expect from brand new students any growth till they are in, like, fourth grade or fifth grade, because till then, they are just embracing everything. And there's a lot they are doing when they are not showing you in writing, they're watching you, they're learning. They know their body language. They are. They are just, like, sitting there and understanding what's going on the system. Right. Because they are probably not familiar with the system, but it's not the same for all students. If they've already been in the country, they're first generation and their parents have already been here for a while, then they are a little different and they need more language support. So get to know your students. Till you know your students, you cannot do anything. You might be the best person. You might have, like, a ton of degrees displayed in your classroom. You don't make connections. You cannot achieve anything.
Beth Vaucher
Yes. I love that. Wow. I could keep talking all day about this. This is incredible. The passion and just that was so helpful to, for all of us, I think, to hear again, it really does come down to creating a welcoming environment, creating those connections. Anything else, you know, and I'm sure you saw that on the opposite side. I know here as well. Like, when there's that disconnect between the teacher and the students, when there's. It's just, you know, rote learning or it's really kind of just removed of that. That relationship, it doesn't stick. It doesn't go further than just front of their mind, and then they forget. So we really have to begin with getting to know our students, being visible. I love that. Like, what an incredible tip of just being visible.
Kavita Mahendra
Make yourself known and try the tricks that are not direct. Like, you know, try the things that, oh, can you finish this work for me? Can you finish this worksheet? No. Can you say, like, oh, let's go out for a quick walk? Like on a day, like, beautiful day, like today, it's like 70 degrees. Beautiful, gorgeous. I just go out, we sit on the stairs, on the table and the chair. Oh, we're not working today, we'll work tomorrow. I give them, then I take it back from them.
Beth Vaucher
Yeah.
Kavita Mahendra
It's like a win win situation for me, where they're like, tomorrow we will work. Not today, misses Mahindra. We have to finish that worksheet. I'll say, that can wait. Who wants to go inside and work? And then there'll be like, that one student, and then everybody will be like, why do you want to go inside? We're just going to talk but, like, I mean, every. I cannot do this every single time. There were students taking, like, an assessment that had to be submitted because the grades are supposed to be in by next year, but which I kind of, like, I've already built that relationship, so I can tell them that. But, you know, I. I feel like it's huge when you trust your students and when you build those relationships and trust you. Yep.
Beth Vaucher
That's incredible. Well, Kavita, we're running out of time, but I want to thank you so much for just all you've shared with us. This has been extremely helpful. And, yeah, I just can't wait to see more of what you're doing and your impact with both ESL students and also educators. So thanks. Thank you so much.
Kavita Mahendra
Thank you for inviting me. And thank you for your work. You are amazing. And I am using your resources all the time and sharing them with my staff. And it is. It's not only for El students, but for all students. And I absolutely love them. You should see the work done by the students. I have folders with all your packets that the students do. And they tie in with the curriculum, which is great.
Beth Vaucher
Awesome. Well, we're just starting, so get ready. There's more that's coming.
Kavita Mahendra
Yep. I love it. Thank you.
Beth Vaucher
All right. Thanks, Kavita.