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The Inner Healer - Interview with Anne Ferrier Crook
Episode 102nd February 2022 • Joyful Journey • Anita Adams
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In today’s episode, I interview Anne Ferrier Crook who is a Certified Integrative Health Coach who supports others to heal and transform their lives so they can shift from "surviving" to fully thriving. Anne works to re-ignite her client’s inner healer for greater joy and vitality. She believes that when you reignite joy in your spirit your body comes into a healing state.

Highlight’s from this episode:

Getting to know your inner healer

Focus on the breath to come into your body

“Compassionate presence” - allowing fear to be there but not control you

Tip for reducing tension in your body: When you are feeling anxious or stressed, put one hand on your heart and one hand on your belly. This physical action gets you out of your head and into your body and sends a message that says, “I got you.”

About Our Guest Anne Ferrier Crook:

Anne is a Certified Integrative Health Coach, Holding Space Consultant, Certified Birth Doula, and Certified Medical Interpreter. She works with women in midlife who are struggling with chronic health issues and feel exhausted, stuck and emotionally overwhelmed to transform their health and reclaim their life.

How to connect with Anne Ferrier Crook

Website: https://integrativeradiance.com/

Email: annecrook@gmail.com

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anne-ferrier-crook-471a382b/

Gift from Anne: Shifting from Surviving to Thriving: A Transformational Roadmap

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Anita Adams:

Welcome to the joyful journey podcast. If

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you're uncertain about what you really want or unsure how to be

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a force or good, you know this world craves, then this is the

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show for you. I'm Anita Adams, your host and guide to finding

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clarity and creating a life you love. Let's tap into our inner

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wisdom, access our highest self and unleash joy. As we raise our

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vibration, we heighten the collective consciousness and

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that, my friends, is the joyful journey. Let's dive in. Hey,

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joyful journey yours, Anita Adams here, your host, and I'm

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so excited to introduce you to my new friend and cook. Hey,

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Ann, how are you?

Anne Ferrier Crook:

Hi, Anita. I'm doing well. Thank you. So

Anne Ferrier Crook:

excited

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to have you here and is a certified Integrative

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Health Coach holding space consultant, certified birth

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doula, doula and certified medical interpreter in Spanish,

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I believe she loves supporting others to heal and transform

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their lives. So they can shift from surviving to fully

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thriving, and supports clients to reignite their inner healer

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for greater joy and vitality. And that's just the icing on the

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cake of what N does. And I'm gonna put her full bio in the

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show notes and her contact information below cuz you're

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gonna want to connect with this lady and find out more. I love

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everything about what you do. And and I'm, I'm really curious,

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I want to know your story, your journey that led you here to do

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this specific work. So can we start there?

Unknown:

Sure. That sounds great. Thank you so much. It's

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such an honor to be here. First off, I was so drawn to the name

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of your podcast, joyful journey, because I believe that when we

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reignite joy, in our spirit on any kind of healing journey

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we're on our body comes into a healing state. And so my journey

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is that for sure, I had gone through a lot of chronic health

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challenges. And as I was moving through some of those chronic

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health challenges, I realized that I have to reignite my

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spirit, and my soul in this healing process to reignite my

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joy. And when I'm in that place of expansion versus contraction,

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then my body is going to heal. And that's exactly what it's

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done. And that's kind of my idea of how you shift from surviving

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something to actually thriving. I love that

Unknown:

I really,

Anita Adams:

I love the language that you you choose to live

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there, the words are so powerful. Um, he's talking about

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reigniting the spirit, nourishing the soul, you say

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some of the stuff on your website and how it's essential

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for healing the process. And you talk about being tapping into

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that inner healer. So I want to, I want to dive into that a

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little bit more. What is that inner healer? And how, how do

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you reignite the spirit and nourish the soul? Hmm,

Unknown:

good question. So I believe we all have an inner

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healer that lives inside of us. And whether you call it the

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inner healer or something else, it's that part of you, where our

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body innately knows how to heal, when we surround it with the

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right ingredients, the right nourishing ingredients, whether

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that be the foods we're putting in our mouth every day, how

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we're sleeping, how we're managing our stress, the people

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in our lives, the relationships that are nourishing us, you

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know, are they draining us? Are they nourishing us. And so when

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we start to like, really trust our intuition, and trust what

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our body's messages are saying to us, because our body is

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always talking to us. And when we have a chronic disease, as I

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call it, the body's out of ease, and has fallen out of balance.

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If we start to listen to those messages, then we can start to

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really get to know this inner healer, because our body has

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that wisdom that that will lead us to the right people to the

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right places. And so that's the first step to get in touch with

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your inner healer is to start listening to your body's

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messages, and really tuning in to what it's saying. And and

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also just trusting your intuition. Because we all have a

Unknown:

gut instinct about what the right choices are.

Anita Adams:

Yeah, trusting that I think is is really important.

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And a lot of people don't they're not they don't trust

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that at you know, I grew up with a father who was he'd always

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tell me to, you know, use my brain, you know, and and kind of

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mock my intelligence. So I use my brain, you know, and I would

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discard anything that was feeling based that intuition, I

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suppress them. And I've had conversations with a number of

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people that They've experienced the same thing. Like they've had

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gut instincts before, but they haven't learned to trust it is

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there? How do you learn to trust that? Is it muscles? I don't

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know, like, what are your thoughts on that?

Unknown:

Well, it's interesting, you talk about, you know, being

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in that headspace because I feel like the biggest journey for so

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many of us is literally from here to here. Yeah, from head to

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toe heart, it's about a foot, you know, about 12 inches or so.

Unknown:

But it can be the longest journey to to, to like, instead

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of living from neck up, we actually become more embodied.

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And we start to live from our heart, from our solar plexus,

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our belly. And as we make choices, like especially very

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important choices, when you're on a healing journey from a

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medical diagnosis, it's really important to come from calm,

Unknown:

intuitive action, versus anxious action, which kind of comes from

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here up from the headspace. And so for me, personally, what's

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really helped me is starting to, you know, close my eyes and, and

Unknown:

I do a meditation technique called TM, transcendental

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meditation 20 minutes a day. And for me, this is just the

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practice of listening to my body and slowing my thoughts down.

Unknown:

But that's not you know, even if you're not a meditator, there

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are other ways that we can be more mindful of what's coming up

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in our body just from, you know, focusing on our breathing, you

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know, and how is my breathing? Is it shallow? Is it from my

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chest up? Or is it from my belly, that deep abdominal

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breathing? And what I like to say is that helps us get into a

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relax, rest and digest state, which is healing versus fight

Unknown:

flight, living from head up.

Anita Adams:

Hmm. Yeah. And so I'm breathing right now. Like, I

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just No, notice, just saying the word breathing is like, Okay,

Anita Adams:

well, I gotta breathe, like I can get shallow in my, my

Anita Adams:

breath, right? And we need to breathe in deeply and take the

Anita Adams:

time to really feel it. Can you explain your meditation process

Anita Adams:

and checking in with your body?

Unknown:

Well, so with the, with the TM technique that I do, I

Unknown:

just do a 20 minute meditation, and I have a mantra, it's more

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like a sound, it's not really a word. It's more like a sound.

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And I just bring my attention back to that. And what's really,

Unknown:

what really resonates for me about this particular technique

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is that if you have thoughts, that's actually a welcomed part

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of the meditation, so many people struggle in meditation to

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like, get rid of their thoughts. Oh, I'm not supposed to be

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thinking. What they say in TM is it actually you're thinking your

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body's releasing stress. And it's part of the meditation,

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where your body is literally like, releasing stress from your

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nervous system. And then you just gently bring your awareness

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back to that sound back to that mantra. And however, it turns

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out, it's so it's okay, it's all part of how your body is

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processing things. So, you know, I grew up as an athlete,

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actually, and I've always been somatic based. So meditation

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never really worked for me until I found this technique. And it's

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the first time I've been able to feel the benefit, like not just

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emotionally feeling great, but also physically feeling things

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unwind in my body.

Anita Adams:

So I'm a little unclear because I'm, I've had

Anita Adams:

I've struggled with meditation, I do meditate, and it is getting

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easier over time. But, you know, you talking about how it's okay

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to let the thoughts come up. And that that has been one of the

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things that I think has stopped me many times in the past is

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just like, Oh, I gotta stop this chatter in my head. How do I

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stop it? And I get kind of welled up and I'm like, Ah, I

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just give up. You know, it's like, I can't seem to stop it.

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And so I love what you're, what you're talking about is that's

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part of it, just actually allowing yourself giving

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yourself permission to have that dialogue. If and let it let it

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come and let it go. And then and then what like what is I want to

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I want to know, you know, what you do to listen to your body

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and really get tuned in?

Unknown:

Well, so much of my own healing journey because I you

Unknown:

know, I had some major health scares that I've gone through,

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I'm a stage one breast cancer survivor, and I like to say

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thriver um, but a big part of my healing journey has been like

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seeing that as an opportunity and a wake up call to really

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show up differently in my life and versus coming at life from a

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pushing and striving at all costs. You know, really kind of

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coming into this gentle space of allowing and receiving and

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trusting. And so for me, meditation is a great

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opportunity to practice that. Just surrender control and

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realize if I'm having thoughts just kind of surrendered that

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and allow them to come. And then gently bring my awareness back

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to my breath back to my, you know, back to my mantra, which,

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which I it's more like a sound. But it's not a pushing and

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striving kind of energy. It's more like a softer sort of

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feminine, I like to call it energy of receiving and allowing

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and trusting.

Anita Adams:

Okay, I'm sorry, if I keep pushing on this, I want

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to know, what is your body telling you though, like, if

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you're like it, what I'm, I think I'm hearing you talk about

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is that we have to listen to our body telling us that there's

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something wrong. So how, how does that show up in your body

Anita Adams:

talking to you, I know that it disease is obvious, you know,

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like, but at that point, it feels like it's almost too late.

Anita Adams:

Right? Like, I mean, you can obviously do things to help

Anita Adams:

reduce the, the, the disease or deal with a disease, but I want

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to not be in the place of disease, I want to be able to be

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so attuned to my body, that I am taking preventative measures

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when things start going out of alignment. Do you have any tips

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on how to do that?

Unknown:

Absolutely. So I think that I like to say our body

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whispers before it screams. And so if we're listening to the

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whispers, then we never have to wind up with a major medical

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diagnosis down the road. Because, you know, as we age,

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like our bodies are more susceptible to disease, it's,

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um, but they're there ways to actually prevent that from

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happening and actually have this amazing sense of longevity and

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great health. And so, so when it whispers sometimes it could be

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like, I know, it's different for all of us. But for me,

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personally, if I'm feeling stressed, I start to feel it in

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my solar plexus, I start to feel it in my jaw. I just start to

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feel kind of contracted. And so I know, okay, my body's

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stressed. And I need to just take a step back and start to

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deepen my breath, you know, how am I breathing, my breathing

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shallow. Um, and so just getting aware of your breath and notice,

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are you breathing deeply? Are you breathing shallow, because

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when the body's in that stress state, which is chronic stress,

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then that is what raises our risk factors for disease,

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because it creates something called chronic inflammation

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throughout the body, which is probably about 80% of chronic

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illness and disease is because of this chronic state of

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inflammation. But when we slow down, we focus on our breath,

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and we come into our body, instead of just living from our

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head, we actually go back into that healing state. Okay, so,

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um, would you ask your body like, if you're in a

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meditative state, or you're lying down? Would you be in

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inquiry, like, where do I feel tense? Like, am I do I feel in

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my, in my jaw? Do I feel tension in my shoulder pecs is, is that

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sort of like the check in is that what you're doing to check

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in and ask and do almost like a body scan,

Unknown:

that's one thing I do is you know, just closing my

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eyes and tuning in to where am I feeling that stress in my body

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and really sending my deep breathing to that part of me to

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kind of almost envision it, uh, you know, being contracted like

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a contracted fifth and then expanding living with an open

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palm. Another thing that I love to do because I'm very

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outdoorsy, and I love I love nature is and I'm very somatic

Unknown:

as well, very physical. And so when I feel stressed, like

Unknown:

sometimes what actually works better than me than meditation

Unknown:

is to get outside and to take a walk in the forest.

Anita Adams:

talking my language.

Unknown:

Like I'm actually more inclined to do that than I am to

Unknown:

meditate. I love meditating. But I'm very outdoorsy and and I you

Unknown:

know, I I've always been very kinesthetic, I think is the

Unknown:

right word. And so for me, like getting into the forest is so

Unknown:

healing and I love the water. Here in Tennessee, we have

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amazing waterfall hikes. And so one of my favorite things is to

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go swimming under the waterfalls.

Anita Adams:

Ah, awesome. I love that about you. That's so cool.

Anita Adams:

And yeah, you're totally talking my language. My my go to to like

Anita Adams:

I'm, I'm getting better at meditation. I just I really have

Anita Adams:

a hard time just shutting down sometimes. And maybe I've got to

Anita Adams:

stop thinking I got to shut my brain down and maybe that's part

Anita Adams:

of the problem. But the walks in nature. Oh, it's just as

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restorative you know, like I could just and and I find I I

Anita Adams:

actually breathe deeply and intentionally when I'm walking

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through nature. I also like to kayak and I get that same

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feeling sitting on the ocean. It's just this restored of

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breathing in. And though I feel my whole body, just relax.

Unknown:

I love that. Yeah. When you said I could almost smell

Unknown:

the water, I was just almost smelling the saltwater with you.

Unknown:

I know you live near the ocean and I also love to kayak we have

Unknown:

some great rivers in Tennessee and I go kayaking as well.

Anita Adams:

Awesome. Well, I'm gonna come for a visit some

Anita Adams:

dive, and you're gonna have some kayaking rivers to do.

Unknown:

You are so invited. Cool.

Anita Adams:

Um, I've heard you speak about your higher power.

Anita Adams:

And that higher consciousness, and the role we have in

Anita Adams:

elevating that consciousness. I think, though, I think I pulled

Anita Adams:

that actually from something you said somewhere that, you know,

Anita Adams:

we, that we have a role to play in elevating that consciousness?

Anita Adams:

Can you? Can you speak to that a little bit?

Unknown:

Well, um, you know, everybody has their own beliefs.

Unknown:

But I really believe that, you know, we have a mind, body,

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heart, spirit and soul. And, you know, so for me, it's very

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personal for all of us. But my belief is that, you know, I have

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a higher power, that part of me that knows that all is well and

Unknown:

doesn't need to be, you know, in fear, or in that sort of fear

Unknown:

based action I was talking about earlier, coming from a racing

Unknown:

mind. But it's more of that calm, intuitive knowing. So

Unknown:

really, you know, coming at a situation, like what really

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helps me personally deal with adversity is when I have

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something stressful I'm facing, to create this healing mindset

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to say, what can I learn from this, there's something that my

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spirit must have called in to learn from this situation. So

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not only can I grow from it, but I can actually pay it forward

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and support other people to do the same thing. So having that

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kind of mindset has helped me personally connect more with my

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higher power, and kind of see things through a spiritual lens

Unknown:

versus, you know, it's sort of woe is me, like, why is this

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happening? And just getting stuck down in the lower thinking

Unknown:

that we can all

Anita Adams:

Yeah, and that that lower thinking, I think it shuts

Anita Adams:

us down to doesn't it? It doesn't allow us to access that,

Anita Adams:

that inner wisdom. Whereas if we're, we are coming from a

Anita Adams:

place of love instead of fear, then we're expansive. And we're

Anita Adams:

open to receiving. Exactly, exactly receiving the messages

Anita Adams:

in the end the gifts and I believe there are gifts in every

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adversity.

Unknown:

Exactly, exactly. And I mean, it I love what you said

Unknown:

about the contraction and expansion because I actually

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just went through a grief work training this past summer. And

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one thing that the the instructor was talking about is

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how we go through these waves of contraction and expansion in

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life. And even if we're going through something difficult, we

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don't have to necessarily be completely contracted, we can

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kind of softly open to allow those emotions to come up and

Unknown:

just kind of move through us and I believe that can help help

Unknown:

kind of ease the burden of whatever that life experiences.

Unknown:

Yeah.

Anita Adams:

Yeah, and being self aware, and being able to

Anita Adams:

sit back and step outside of the challenges I guess that that are

Anita Adams:

we we are confronted with. And being on attached I think is is

Anita Adams:

important, isn't it, you know, attached to outcomes or

Anita Adams:

unattached to the challenges that we're facing and so you can

Anita Adams:

look at it and and say what is mine to learn here? What is mine

Anita Adams:

to understand? Mm hmm I think being an inquiry constantly is

Anita Adams:

so key and I like to believe you know that I believe in the I

Anita Adams:

believe in god i But I believe in divine within I believe we

Anita Adams:

are all one you know, I have some really strong beliefs

Anita Adams:

around around the stuff which which I haven't openly shared

Anita Adams:

before and I'm excited to be expansive and share that without

Anita Adams:

fear anymore because I know I'm gonna attract the people that

Anita Adams:

you know, that are speak my language as well so so I I like

Anita Adams:

to have conversations with myself and with God when I'm

Anita Adams:

walking in for in the forest, you know, and that is often it's

Anita Adams:

part of my healing journey. If I've gone through something

Anita Adams:

particularly challenging is having that conversation and

Anita Adams:

opening myself up and and being an inquiry. What is my And to

Anita Adams:

learn here, what is mine to do, I often have a little prayer

Anita Adams:

that I put out to the universe pretty much every day when I go

Anita Adams:

for my for my walk and it and I asked for me to be able to see

Anita Adams:

what is mine to see, understand what his mind to do and have the

Anita Adams:

courage to do it. Yeah, it's a constant little prayer that I

Anita Adams:

put out there and, and I feel things. I feel that expansion

Anita Adams:

and the fear that I mean fear is normal, right? We all get

Anita Adams:

fearful of things. But when we can breathe into it and open our

Anita Adams:

heart, like you're talking, you know, going from the journey

Anita Adams:

from the head into the heart and opening it, then it dissipates

Anita Adams:

the fear of it.

Unknown:

Oh, oh, so much. So, so much. So you know, even just

Unknown:

sometimes when I am calming down my nervous system, I'll just put

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one hand on my heart and one hand on my belly. And just the

Unknown:

act of that just calms me, um, you know, helps to take me from

Unknown:

being in my headspace down into my body.

Unknown:

That's a great little tip. Something simple that everybody

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can do.

Anita Adams:

A little action. Now when you're feeling

Anita Adams:

stressed, anxious, distressed. Putting one hand on your heart,

Anita Adams:

one hand on your belly. And it just, it takes the physical

Anita Adams:

action of doing that. I think it pulls you out of your head and

Anita Adams:

put puts you into being into your body.

Unknown:

Yeah, I can't like I for me, personally, I feel like

Unknown:

the signal it gives my body is. I've got you.

Unknown:

I love that I get to I've got you.

Unknown:

Yeah, like, the first thing that comes to me is I've got you I'm

Unknown:

here, I'm listening. Um, I've got you. And so my body just

Unknown:

kind of relaxes. Because my, whatever part of my body is kind

Unknown:

of in a freakout state, like, I've never noticed that, like,

Unknown:

I'm here, I've got you. We're gonna get through this.

Unknown:

And it's so beautiful. Like we we need to see and

Anita Adams:

love ourselves, first and foremost, right? So

Anita Adams:

true. And that little action. So simple, takes two seconds to do.

Anita Adams:

And it sends a message to your whole being that when I'm

Anita Adams:

worthy. I see you, I got you. This is a safe space.

Unknown:

Exactly. Exactly. And that's what ignites the joy

Unknown:

because when we can walk around in the world, that's when we can

Unknown:

walk around in the world feeling safe, to you know, radiate our

Unknown:

authentic self out in the world and not have like a guard up all

Unknown:

the time. But hat kind of live with our heart open. Um, knowing

Unknown:

that, okay, I've got you like, you know, what's out here is

Unknown:

unpredictable. We never know, you know, what's going to happen

Unknown:

with other people or things. But when we really know inside, I've

Unknown:

got you, um, then that keeps us in that place of safety so we

Unknown:

can actually ignite our joy. That's kind of how I can best

Unknown:

describe it. You're

Unknown:

giving me goosebumps,

Anita Adams:

I love it. I love it so much. I am going to, I'm

Anita Adams:

going to practice that. Practice that I bought you. And it's,

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that's gonna be I'm adding that into my new daily routine. It's

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a little simple thing. I got you.

Unknown:

I love that. You know,

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I said earlier, I I believe I believe we're all one

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I believe, of the Divine Divine within. And so I picture God

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saying that, as well. I got you. I love

Unknown:

that. Yeah, me too. Exactly. We you're very aligned

Unknown:

as as far as our thinking, you know, because it's not just us

Unknown:

with ourselves. But I also believe there's a higher power

Unknown:

that that has that has us Yeah, and that's that's been a big

Unknown:

part of my journey actually is trusting that you know, because

Unknown:

I think that 20 years ago earlier on my life path I don't

Unknown:

think I was fully living in that trusting place place that life

Unknown:

fully had my back and and so I was always like pushing and

Unknown:

striving and being self sufficient. And that just that

Unknown:

led me to breaking down from stress that led me to some

Unknown:

chronic health issues. And now on the other side of that I am

Unknown:

honestly proud to say I'm now in this trusting place of like,

Unknown:

knowing that life has my back

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and isn't there a freedom that comes with that and

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there obviously that sense of joy, this freedom to just go

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with the flow to like I I'm there with you and I I don't

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have I'm ambitious, I am ambitious. I've got big goals

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and and dreams and I love going after them. However, I'm not

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happy hustling, like I used to. Mm hmm. I'm going with that I

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feel, I feel supported, I feel connected, I feel loved, I feel

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joy. And there's this joy that moves through me and with me,

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and it's carrying me and I feel like it's because I've tapped

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into that. Mm hmm. into that inner wisdom into that

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understanding of this higher this higher consciousness, this

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higher, higher self. Mm hmm.

Unknown:

I love that it's like you can have you can still be

Unknown:

hustler and still be like, you know, motivated, but doing it

Unknown:

from a place of joy and, and calm, sort of a peacefulness

Unknown:

mixed in with that versus fear. You know, that's a real

Unknown:

different space to be when we feel like we're hustling, right?

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100% different space,

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I believe there's really two

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fundamental emotions, and that's fear and

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joy and love, fear and love. And you can choose, you know, to

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come from a place of fear, you can choose to come from a place

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of love. And it doesn't mean that you you stop fearing you

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can still have, fear can be there, but your actions, the

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choices you make, always choose to come from a place of love.

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And you will be so well served, you know, we get to love our

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bodies and take care of our bodies and love ourselves and

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love our new love and all that.

Unknown:

I love. And I love how you said you can still have the

Unknown:

fear. I mean, it's not like it's just gonna go away forever. It's

Unknown:

part of being human. But when it comes up, you know, coming to

Unknown:

that fear with with a place of love, like compassionate

Unknown:

presence. Yeah. And so then it allows the fear just just to be

Unknown:

there and be present without it overtaking us. Absolutely.

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Yeah. Very cool. Oh, my gosh, I feel like you and

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I can just keep chatting about the joy cycle. I love it. He

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wrote it, you wrote a book, or you were one of the authors and

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the thresholds 75 stories of how changing your perspective can

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change your life. Can you talk a little bit about the story, you

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you included in that in that book can and talk to this

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changing perspective and how it can change your life?

Unknown:

Yes, thank you. I want to give credit to Simon Crowe

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and Robin Ben Schwartz, because they're actually the authors of

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the book. And I'm one of the 75 writers who is actually in this

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best selling book. So I am one of the authors. However, the

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name of the book, I love thresholds, you know, all about

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changing your perspective to change your life. And so my

Unknown:

story in that book is called birth as I know it. I have a

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background as a certified childbirth doula. And I was

Unknown:

living in Hawaii for eight months. And it was the first

Unknown:

time I had been surrounded by the water, which completely

Unknown:

transformed my perspective of water. Because before I just

Unknown:

knew, Okay, you know, water is really important for our health,

Unknown:

it's important to drink, I love the water. But I had never

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really had a spiritual connection with the water like I

Unknown:

did when I was surrounded by ocean. And so for me, like going

Unknown:

back to this story of learning to trust and be at ease and know

Unknown:

that life has my back started during that year, living in

Unknown:

Hawaii, when I was lying on my back in the ocean, which I write

Unknown:

my story about, and how I had, you know, been dealing with some

Unknown:

chronic health issues from stress before that year, and my,

Unknown:

you know, health started to break down. And then Hawaii

Unknown:

happens to have this powerful healing energy about it. And so

Unknown:

it just exploded my awareness about how, for me personally,

Unknown:

what I need to shift is this getting into this allowing

Unknown:

receiving mode, which I like to call more of our feminine

Unknown:

energy. And this was back in 2008, that I was living in

Unknown:

Hawaii. So I write my story about how my birth doula

Unknown:

background, seeing all this birth, I assisted around 200

Unknown:

births in a five year period, and how that came full circle

Unknown:

back to my own health, and how I realized that my passion for

Unknown:

birth is my, my passion for healing and transformation

Unknown:

because I see a lot of parallels as a you've, you've given birth,

Unknown:

right. So you know, that like when you're in childbirth, and

Unknown:

you're in transition, that last stage of labor, you know, it

Unknown:

gets really intense and, and tract. Um, but that's just the

Unknown:

moment where when we can let go and surrender control and just

Unknown:

trust our body that the baby comes out. And what I wrote

Unknown:

about in that article, or that story in the book, is how it's

Unknown:

the same you know, in in your life transitions you go through

Unknown:

if we go through, holding tight and contraction, then We're not

Unknown:

able to heal, but when we can surrender, we can let go and

Unknown:

expand, then word again. There goes, then, you know, our body

Unknown:

opens up as well in a different way. But it goes back into a

Unknown:

healing state. And then all these new opportunities come

Unknown:

from that.

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Wow, that sounds powerful.

Unknown:

So, yeah, so my story is called birth as I know it,

Unknown:

and it really just kind of combines my knowledge as a

Unknown:

childbirth doula with, with, you know, an experience I went

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through in my own health and my own life.

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Wow, great part of your part of your journey to get

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you to where you are today.

Unknown:

Exactly.

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Very cool. I love how all these things happen in

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our in our lives that inform us and create the path create the

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path to where we are. Exactly. Very cool. Any, any final

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comments that you want to share with our audience? Do you have

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if they if anybody wanted to get in touch with you? Can we put

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your contact information in the in the show notes? And

Unknown:

absolutely, the best way to get in touch with me is

Unknown:

to go to my website. It's integrative, radiance, calm. And

Unknown:

that's an IV integrative. And on my website, I have a free ebook

Unknown:

called Surviving thriving. And you can download that from the

Unknown:

homepage, the very top, my email addresses on there as well. And

Unknown:

I also am on LinkedIn under my full name and farrier, crook.

Unknown:

But I would love anybody who you know, feels inspired, wants to

Unknown:

connect, I offer a free 40 to 45 minute discovery call. And, you

Unknown:

know, through that we could kind of see, you know, what are your

Unknown:

health and wellness goals right now? What are you struggling

Unknown:

with how I can support you, because I'm not just doing

Unknown:

health coaching with my clients, but I also blend in the

Unknown:

emotional healing and the grief support. And I call that holding

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space. And that's also on my website,

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I was gonna actually ask you about holding

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space, I was curious about what that what that meant. Can before

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we go, can you describe that a little bit more what a home

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consultant is?

Unknown:

Yes, so I'm trained with a wonderful Institute, it's

Unknown:

called the Institute for the Study of birth, breath and

Unknown:

death. Amy Right. Glen is the director. And we have about 1000

Unknown:

members around the world. And as a holding space consultant, I've

Unknown:

been trained to support clients that are dealing with not just

Unknown:

grief and loss, but difficult emotions that get stored in the

Unknown:

body. And so that could be you know, something you went through

Unknown:

30 years ago as a child, but you, you've just kind of pushed

Unknown:

it down and suppressed it. And now it might be showing up

Unknown:

physically, you know, as I call dis ease, and so it's looking

Unknown:

at, well, okay, so what was this childhood loss you experienced?

Unknown:

Or maybe it was something more recent, you know, that was

Unknown:

difficult. And it's holding space for it with compassionate

Unknown:

presence. And so I really helped my clients to tune in to where

Unknown:

it is in the body, you know, how the body's speaking, what what,

Unknown:

what does that need to say? Does it have a language or a color or

Unknown:

a texture, you know, and so you're really coming into

Unknown:

rapport with it versus turning away from it. And often what I

Unknown:

find my clients through these sessions is they, they come to

Unknown:

greater compassion for themselves for one, but they're

Unknown:

able to make deeper meaning making out of that experience.

Unknown:

And, you know, maybe they had this belief, it wasn't what

Unknown:

happened to them, but it's actually the belief they formed,

Unknown:

and they're actually able to reframe those beliefs and, and

Unknown:

come out on the other end with a tremendous sense of just courage

Unknown:

and compassion for themselves. And so I feel like that part of

Unknown:

the healing process is just as important is looking at the

Unknown:

foods they're eating, how they're sleeping in their

Unknown:

lifestyle. So I blend these two together.

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very holistic approach. Yes. Awesome. Well,

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wonderful. Thank you so much, and for being here with with me

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today and with the joyful journey errs. It's really a

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pleasure to get to know you a little bit more and I really

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sincerely hope we can continue to have some discussions around

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joy but tapping into that inner wisdom listening to our bodies,

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that higher collective the higher consciousness I love this

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stuff. So it's really great to connect with another like minded

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individual, and to our joyful journey are thank you so much

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for joining us on The joyful journey podcast and we wish you

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