As chronic, hard-to-treat disorders become more common in clinic, many practitioners are returning to Wen Bing theory for answers.

In this conversation with Kerri Westhauser, we explore lurking pathogen theory and how deep-lying evils help explain complex conditions like lupus and POTS.

We also discuss why tonification often backfires in chronic disease, and the importance of venting, regulating, and mobilizing Shen to keep the body's pathways open.

Listen in for a practical rethinking of the Wei and Qi levels and how to locate disease that has gone into hiding.