We are joined by Mickey Hess, professor and author of several Hip Hop-related books to talk about the Hip Hop artists that have performed at Rider over the years. Hess himself has brought many of them to campus, including legends like Masta Ace and Rah Digga.

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I. Bring it.

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Come on.

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Welcome to hip hop movie club.

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The show harmonizes the rhythm of hip hop.

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The magic of movies.

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My name is DynoWright.

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I'm a podcaster, filmmaker, Rider grad.

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And in the dorm,

my man Destin would be playing

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Craig Mack's Flava in Ya Ear.

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That first record,

the Funk da World record.

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I remember him playing a lot of,

old Dirty Bastard and Wu-Tang also.

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JB is a nice nostalgia junkie, longtime

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hip hop fan, writer grad as well.

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And I remember it must have been

my sophomore or junior year when I won

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Tribe Called Quest Midnight Marauders

CD off of the Rider radio station

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promo copy.

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Hello,

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I'm Boogie, a DJ, long time

buff and rider grad,

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and I actually used to deejay right here

in the pub when I was a student,

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and also in the Cavalla Room upstairs.

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And nice.

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Today we have with us

Professor Mickey Hess.

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Mickey Hess is the coauthor with Buddha

Monk of the Dirty Version:

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On Stage, In the Studio

and In the Streets with Ol’ Dirty Bastard.

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And other books

include The Nostalgia Echo,

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Big Wheel at the Cracker

Factory, Is Hip Hop Dead?

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The Past, Present, Future, America's

Most Wanted Music, and A Guest

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in the House of Hip Hop:

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How Rap Music Taught a Kid from Kentucky

What a White Ally Should Be.

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think you got your education

from the University of Louisville.

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That's right.

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Go Cardinals cards.

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And we're also going to have you here.

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And we're so glad to have him here.

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And we're going to talk about

the surprising history of hip hop

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with our hip hop professor at Rider

University.

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Here at Rider!

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You get right on, right on.

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Welcome.

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Thank you guys for attending.

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We're excited to be here. Louisville.

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Is that Lamar Jackson's all right,

I think.

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Oh, no, I think he.

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Yeah. Lamar. Two time MVP.

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And he may be earning his third the way

he's playing these days, but, yeah.

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So Rider College and then Rider University

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has a long history

of hosting hip hop acts.

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Some of them might shot you here long

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before they became household names.

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So we have a little bit of a chronology

of, of hip hop.

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We can talk about some of these acts,

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maybe what their influence was

and the memories thereof.

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One of the first hip hop acts

that we can recall,

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and as documented,

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who knows?

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Rob bass is biggest hit.

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I'm looking at you.

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It takes two.

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It takes two to make a thing go right.

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Of course. Right, right.

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Joy and pain, my man in the back. You.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So Rob bass was here and 1990.

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That's about the time when that hit, you

know, made it big, maybe slightly before.

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So huge name and hip hop annals.

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Fast forward a little bit further out.

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95 or so the Fugees,

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The artifacts, DJ essence,

Boogie talk a little

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about about the Fugees, because I know

you had some interaction with them.

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Yeah.

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So I was on SEC.

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SEC at the time studying

entertainment culture, and we were trying

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to figure out,

who we would have for our concert.

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There was a guy in,

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on our committee at the name

Jabari Sturdivant.

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He was from East Orange.

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I was from New York, some familiar.

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And he threw out the name

The Fugees as soon as he to rename.

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And I got excited. Everybody's. What?

What were they like?

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You're going to like to trust me.

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At the time that we Sony Hannah said.

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Matthew has remixed

Mona Lisa came in happening on Friday.

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Yeah,

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the only song that was on the radio

that was the ears

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actually heard on the radio yesterday.

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Specifically.

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So the Fugees come down

and they bring the artifacts,

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which is also a lot of hip hop artifacts.

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Wrong side of the tracks.

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Oh, since they returned to the team, one

and the As well,

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but they just seem to share and inform.

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For almost two years,

if you have children free concern

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for our.

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And while there once things were forming.

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So we started working

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and as we know we got a problem now.

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Say, why is the children

from our four richest teachers.

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It's an incredible you.

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You see obesity and radiation.

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You know.

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And he has mentioned to me,

his heart is in Egypt.

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It's on out north. The

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children from New Hampshire.

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And before this war, you know,

before you were afraid.

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I mean, we have Iran.

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So I got to ask you for questions.

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Lauren Hill was there, went through these

right at the time.

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Yes, ma'am.

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Who was you here and her and wanted

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to have a few

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words.

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They had a long history together

to a big falling out.

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And so that was

really quite interesting. I

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make a, you know, courageous teachers

go to.

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So you remember,

the video was something you have

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to try and make it

so that every time I pass, I still

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I think back to the beginning, I was

I was actually born in Trenton,

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and I lived in Warm Town

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for about a year and a half,

and then we moved up to Bucks County.

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But I was

you couldn't make me the girl to take me.

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But yeah,

I love that video that you give me.

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That that song. It's amazing.

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The flow.

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Yeah.

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And, you know, it was until.

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Yeah.

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That's amazing.

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I wonder if it's a local to the area.

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And he, I think.

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Was intelligence

which of time to be trained. And.

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Going to be. Yeah.

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Now this is one

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thing with the chronology

that you guys should listen to,

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American.

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What was my name?

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You know the name Sean Carter.

What do you mean?

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You know, it's Jay-Z was here in 96,

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but do you want to take us for now?

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Yeah. So,

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you're having a rap?

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I don't know.

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And we're trying to find some judges

for the competition

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and work it out with, you know, someone

a little more humble before the mouth.

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That was the guy who, started recording.

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Do you believe Trump

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used to live the church?

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You say?

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So we go down here, all of those.

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All right,

let me bring you over here to the,

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live right now this afternoon.

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And he has a critique

about everybody's wrong.

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Here's some of the murmurs he's

describing.

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He's happy.

And a lot of those are some music.

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So, yes, he probably picked up

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one more.

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One more English.

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How do you know

how to record and rock those record?

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That's when you have to come up for that.

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The drummer job right now.

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Just imagine if you some more of that

and he right here to

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he dropped the first verse to 26 ago

and the whole.

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Crowd was more visible.

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Second one,

I don't know anything about it to.

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The competition goes from there and you.

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That's one word.

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No, he's a reasonable doubt.

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You know the sources all the time.

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No record which album and good.

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So we knew that that album is good

because the source says.

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Yeah. So, our friend Jennifer,

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who's

always welcome, you know, where he said,

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okay, we're running Jewish because house.

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Music is more than office work, you know,

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go home for your program.

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Frozen Jewish.

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Okay.

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You you know, so and

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I'm like, okay, okay,

can I keep this movie stars from.

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And the white walls.

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Cuz all the schools with my hair like,

oh, my God, this guy.

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Holds a record.

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I'm going to just start with

Virgil was a guy

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that was in writers club

and I think everybody believes that.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So he's frustrated

and it's like we both feature them for

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know.

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I should put his picture up in the wall.

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So yeah, for sure.

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Before he became

the best rapper at the time.

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And so this song is called.

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You never know who you're going to see it.

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Right?

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If you don't know the name of the show

and you become,

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multimillionaire billionaire moguls,

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with own, you know, line of Rockefeller.

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He's a businessman.

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Champagne?

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Ace of spades, movie.

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And if you want.

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Same.

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Same story.

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And and then at 96 strings

and do some strings later on.

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Give us that screenplay.

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So he was shaking their heads and.

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Okay, well, that should be the same

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as the low

and the string, and people would enjoy.

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And vast quantities of alcohol

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and performances from

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some unknown acts.

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So in 1996, that act that was

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because the headliner was House of pain.

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Which has.

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Been.

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The audience does.

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Jump around, jump around, get jumped.

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Irish small. There is the back.

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The shamrocks and shenanigans.

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So I was there, as an undergrad

at the time.

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We were all undergrads at the time.

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I remember House of Fame come now

and realized that Danny Boy.

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He's a much.

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Yeah, he's amongst yourselves.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Do you know people really remember that,

Danny

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boy was very Johnny Jersey

because they were wearing a lot of cream.

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And my girlfriend the time.

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And my wife Susan was like,

are you looking at me?

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And he looked at me. Well.

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And so that was an awesome time.

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Really. I mean.

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I know for of the house today there.

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There also be,

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People, you know,

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you saw.

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Anybody ever

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last had a few hits a little bit.

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And he actually had a solo album

for House.

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He was part of, I see rising.

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Oh, at that knowledge. Yeah.

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I remember the song was like,

that was after my,

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you know,

it was like loads of juice, you know that?

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My hero. Yeah. That's right.

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Why you for that was.

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That was.

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I didn't realize

he had it up before because.

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Yeah, he. Dom

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he. Had to put the kibosh on like that.

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Yeah.

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That was kind of the way

he reinvented, like, have some Irish.

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Really interesting.

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Yeah.

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You know, like Robert and I. I.

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Yeah.

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I'm gonna say that.

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That was really working.

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And not all.

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European Americans are the same.

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Irish.

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Of them.

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That's crazy.

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And, well, 96 was quite a year for him.

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All right?

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We thought Jesse early in the year,

thinking how to say.

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From our records that.

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October 96th,

right after the next actual pandemic year

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at the same county

here, KRS one and deejaying was legendary.

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Bismarck. Bismarck.

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Yes. Yes, there was one.

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Actually, this is the opening act.

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So this actually

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featured on the show, just the four of us.

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And he was amazing. Like he had a crowd.

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More like he it was just, I mean,

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so I appreciate the origin that you put

into that performance and that,

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it was just a give me a reason to then,

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and party to over.

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He was a deejay, one of the,

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stars.

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I'm actually from here right now,

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which

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is you can argue that this one

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was my problem

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to improvise and do some.

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That is, strange to my world.

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That was,

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and, on the new one.

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And see, I'm the first time I heard.

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And he actually was given a final show.

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I have.

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I still have that concert.

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That's amazing.

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What do you remember?

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He lives in the Bay.

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Yeah.

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He did? Yeah.

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He just a friend to, Yeah, he did that.

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And and then, you know, play some music.

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You kind of organized

and had it for a while.

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Yeah.

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When I joined,

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the business was way down the throat

and I thought of, you know,

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like an investigation into the memories

so that somebody else.

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Yeah.

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So there's a great documentary media

episode that I called All Up in the biz

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that I haven't seen.

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And that was this documentary,

this documentary, his his own life

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about, it's a great story.

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You realize how influential

he was? I was like,

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he was so

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good to me that he came and brought him,

and they were very emotional

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being interviewed.

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He was in Oakland for us.

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Like at the same time they said, like,

he was just happy.

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He was like, hey,

you don't go to this high school.

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We're going to

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St Luke's anywhere without me.

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And then he reinvented himself to be like

a world famous teacher like he has.

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And he got caught up in the whole

sampling controversy and that he's.

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You know, this is not a fun time.

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Where did you go? You know. That?

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Yeah.

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Right. And then.

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He went on fresh shoots

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that showed up and sort of things

got to be like, you had to be like.

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And he had to give you the master of it.

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And then he he learned the basics,

and he was like a celebrity.

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And we went to his market and he did it

hardest for the glory events.

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His argument was like, I

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know he just can't believe that

he believes. So.

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Everybody sees him as a goofball clown,

but he was like

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insanely talented

in so many different aspects.

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And he had never taken such a serious

threat.

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And, you know, the art and exactly.

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So please give this tour.

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So, you know, I saw he was

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actually wow.

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His business crashed right into the.

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That was one of most.

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Yeah.

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This whole documentary might be a little

like it was on a Paramount+ or something.

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And so like I.

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Said, it shot

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it from.

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The trial.

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He was in remission.

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Episodes of, yoga, raffles.

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I know they have.

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This is I think this is really

the first year in the

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Museum of Natural History.

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Oh, yes.

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That's right.

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Yeah. This is the.

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And I'm going to see it here.

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And this

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is a universal hip hop museum.

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And so they built in the south front.

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Yeah.

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And I sign up for the newsletter

coming out

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pretty cool.

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Yeah.

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It was made and saw an exhibit in Newark

a couple of years ago.

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The Grammy Museum, which used to be there

attached to the production center, and

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they did it here about two years ago,

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and it was really cool.

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A lot of photographs

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and memorabilia is hilarious as well.

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I mean, kind of cool.

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This is it was Brother Ernie's collection.

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Like a lot of his collection. Yeah.

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A lot of his collection

is now at Cornell University

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and, like, to go after neighbors.

All that, I think.

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Is that right?

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Yeah, I know

he donated a whole bunch of it to him,

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but he set up an indoor reserve, you know,

during the time we get to see him.

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But shout out to.

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Natalie and Ricky Ballenger.

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They need. You.

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That's right. Yeah, yeah. That's funny.

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This is book

one of the king of socials who shot it,

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you know, which is also,

you know, he made it a keepsake.

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Giant.

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And it's it's a hat that covers

the end of each of it.

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Yeah.

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Me every time.

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City man.

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Now, in 97.

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This is after July,

the slaying of his mother.

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You know, you begin to see,

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do you want to see. Oh.

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Yeah.

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So fast

action to continue this upstairs. And,

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she came and she's very,

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very, very commercial with,

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Very few people come under fire

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for information on this one,

a little bit about the story.

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You know, her first name was,

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also the person that Patrice

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was not too sure

who he actually was named.

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That was very clear on my mother's.

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You know him? He was,

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but again, she was

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very, very emotional, very vulnerable.

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And, you know, she spoke to the crowd.

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As well,

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you know, so,

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Shout

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out to the Student Entertainment Council.

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And, Oh, she's, you know,

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she's she's the.

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Funny.

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This she's.

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A southeastern. Really?

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Like I

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said, he was his, legend.

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All right. Yeah.

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How much was the 9399 exhibit.

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In my right. Now?

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112 and five,

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near and dear to my heart.

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A huge travel question.

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And they just inducted last weekend

in the city rather than Roll Hall of Fame.

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But, yeah,

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but he has been five,

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while he was.

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Here.

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Just.

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Yeah.

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I love you all. The question. So. Yeah.

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See, it's just that they're constantly.

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Pushing you on,

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and, and

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so my take on is that it has some,

you know, family.

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So I was volunteer manager at home, and,

so and,

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you know, exhibit A

for our community and all of you, I

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mean, there

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and I remember when I what, you know, I

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go to some. Room and we were like our

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own person.

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Maybe.

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This was,

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sort of of our community and, you know,

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you know, being able to set our eyes

on the crown jewels.

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And for our, for our family.

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You know, we're really set up for concerts

and started concerts. Hey.

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Oh, wow. And part.

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Of our all the way to the

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what to do is you're going for my.

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Go out the for.

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Know.

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So that you know

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you're playing I know, I know your father

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and I know you know genius.

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I don't know when all you.

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We started running out to that show

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on TV from

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the concert was I glad to see.

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Why don't you come to me?

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If I thought it was always.

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On in my hands,

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you know, just to have a chance to work.

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Yeah. I'm sure you'd love interest.

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He's really paying off.

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And see what you can get there.

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You know?

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And I was like, you know.

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As long as I get what I'm like,

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You know.

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But it was cool.

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You afterwards for your kids.

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That was all,

you know, moving around to the concert

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hall to be who you I wish right?

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Coming.

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You know?

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Oops,

I wish I could do. It which is different.

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For a

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hip hop artist for each. Me.

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Is that right? Yeah.

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You're such an academic world.

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Alrighty. Here it is.

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Jamari Evans, who is,

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knowledge from kids and all this. Oh.

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Okay, nice opportunities.

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Yeah. What was. His name?

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Oh. Yeah.

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I mean, I mean, I just wondered.

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Yeah.

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Who was that

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small handful?

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So who are.

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Right on him.

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But the main character, I'm going to try.

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The first slide

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for the jersey, I would see

whole jersey back in those videos.

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I made a match on the.

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Jersey.

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It was Rowan. And there's a flag.

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They always have a jersey

and I do and like the cool thing about

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my dad was in sports like as well,

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before he passed away and just

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great. Wow.

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He found. Oh.

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Obviously remembers you

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from when he was in the army.

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And the dynamic

between two different things.

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Just some parallels.

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Let's go a little bit further.

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I think 2002.

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This is another one of the biggest names

on this list outside of DC.

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Ludacris was here.

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Who would I remember is in 2002,

I graduated 97.

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I came back and got my MBA.

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I was just taking. Classes.

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Here and there, and I and I remember

that happened to be here for a class.

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The name of that little Chris.

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Was about for me, and I was like,

oh my gosh.

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And I had no clue.

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He was coming.

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And everybody was just, you know,

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getting ready for for this.

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And they were back.

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He had already done some, some things, but

and so he was not alone.

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He is today.

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It was before the whole Fast and Furious.

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But he had had an alternative

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and word of mouth album.

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Hollowed out.

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All the.

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Way and.

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Passed.

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That. Yeah.

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And then, 2004

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saw the roof, but again, it's

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much love and truth.

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Do you have anything to add on

on the roofs?

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Yeah. I, I wasn't around here.

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Is that.

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I wish I was wrong about that.

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I used to listen to

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song, but,

you know, it's see what happens.

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For some.

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Reason, the Philly roots and Juju Allen's

house band and.

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Legendary.

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And then, maybe you I mentioned it

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in college, literally Kenya in 2006.

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Yeah, I think I was just in this was just.

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Yeah.

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I started here fall 2006 and spring.

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Right now,

it's probably the spring concert.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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And then another day the following year

I alluded to and I say.

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It, I, I, I.

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Was and that was that's him.

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Tell us about that.

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He's you can

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tell me

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he came on a story about Jacob

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that went on.

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That song.

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Yeah.

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Just was worship.

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You don't know it.

It's it's a it's a masterpiece.

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About our kind of place in nature is, is.

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He is going to leave him to us.

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So he said. It like it

sounds, and it's interspersed with his.

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Knowledge to be a wonderful person.

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It's really interesting that in the Valley

and all.

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The strength of that,

some of the students fascination.

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And going on that can teach.

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You mentioned, man bass.

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Yeah.

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Which he always said, like people

didn't realize before he saw the video

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clip.

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This is actually not on.

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There was a controversy on that that's.

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Discussed in the movie.

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This is a few years old anyway.

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And years and years later, you see that?

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Yeah, it's a game.

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And, they want to talk with him later.

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On this performance that evening.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Really consensus.

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And you know they have a movie and sound

judge

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super professional future.

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So they're watching this.

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And you

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reminded one of his other videos

hits the distributors.

589

And you remember the one that was

590

You don't see the rest of the time.

591

Okay.

592

Right.

593

We go back. Yeah.

594

Let me see it.

595

Susie Johnson, he takes it off. Yeah.

596

That's right.

597

He goes back to his room and.

598

He's got the first verse on that movie.

599

So the verse you got an interview

just for state recently.

600

Yeah.

601

Because yeah.

602

So we, we had a film screening

where you showed me

603

in these elections and it was we had a to

604

prior to that because

605

he goes through

some of the rap battle scenes and

606

he was the but

607

not in men's, lines,

but other guys like he is the imagine.

608

And so the other guys and he got attached

to it as well as a few other stories,

609

and we showed it for the first time

live after showing an eight mile.

610

And then we did our end.

611

And you see.

612

That he was really cool.

613

And super nice. Yeah.

614

That album was really fun.

615

Yeah,

I wish you had heard the most recent one.

616

So to spell it out,

at least two singles out.

617

Of singles out Tokyo.

618

So you know,

619

because

620

And then, 2009

621

and 2010, Sean makes an entire

622

record that long.

623

I did not get to see them. You know,

624

I didn't make it all.

625

From Sean Kingston,

626

radio style.

627

And, you know, massive is putting all my.

628

Oh, man,

629

oh, man girls song.

630

Yeah. Show off.

631

And they did that one.

632

Example

633

2000 women.

634

And. New face.

635

Yeah.

636

So rich presence here

637

and, Yeah,

I wish Monica was here from across

638

the floor.

639

And she's in Chicago,

640

so he is in Chicago, right?

641

You son of, We'll see, like mentor,

like Connie, or like he had his influence.

642

Like.

643

Yeah.

644

I think you jumped on it.

645

Yeah, I flew literally.

646

You know.

647

It was

648

abusive recently versus like.

649

I mean, you know, I mean, he's making

you have these layers to you.

650

She has listen to it.

651

And we've heard, you know.

652

Layers

653

glasses on.

654

I got to tell you my use.

655

He's out there in the universe.

656

I love.

657

It you're using layers of information.

658

Yeah.

659

And that just said, you

know, simple verses in order to control

660

the bad decisions and influence.

661

And supposedly raw knowledge

before realizing the full song.

662

One year is what I hear. The jungle band.

663

There we go, there we go. We.

664

There is.

665

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

666

Because, Well, Jake called me out.

667

He became this

668

Jake hole is up there

in the annals of good.

669

I don't want to talk about

how artists of all time, according to.

670

Many, many people.

671

Yeah.

672

You know how he did.

673

He made a business decision.

674

I don't think any more straight.

675

Yeah.

676

You know the label, right? Is working and.

677

On down the line.

678

We have made his first decision.

679

Like, listen to us in his real

680

biological vehicle.

681

Come on, listen to those.

682

No radio.

683

He's got some heads to.

684

The interview follow?

685

Yeah.

686

Kind of interspersed in here as well.

687

I brought some some guest speakers

to my podcast.

688

And, I got a notion that,

you know, between 3 and 500.

689

Dollars

690

right.

691

Here and falling in love to new Jersey.

692

You didn't, long ago were about to,

693

as if you were going.

694

To mislead and got new Jersey jazz

at the Hamilton station. Wow.

695

We just came in and talk to a glass,

you know?

696

So, room 2025, studio,

697

and we talking about standards

while enforcing copyright clearance.

698

Okay.

699

Oh, we should watch that.

700

Yeah. Yeah,

we should put that on our list. Yeah.

701

Because we like. So. And I'm sampling

Ross.

702

Yeah, yeah.

703

We just need to hear him

talk about what they put together.

704

So I was like,

705

what are young kids

going to find in the way he works with,

706

you know, Daniel

707

insists on I gets his first DJ,

but wouldn't it be nice?

708

Oh, he really had, like. This creative.

709

Direction.

710

Control that you did with everything.

711

You give his time.

712

And the guy's name is over.

713

I'm just looking up just a little real.

714

But, you know, he.

715

Everybody great.

716

Like God.

717

I would ask him, like,

whose idea was it to do this to me

718

was like, oh, PA's

719

in the studio.

720

Yeah.

721

It's really through the process of,

722

You know, you.

723

Get kind of the seed of your own song,

he said.

724

Even though it's kind of selling out

there, he's not done yet for

725

me. Yes.

726

So many times over. Sandy, you.

727

Said he still has to go in

every couple years.

728

And my head to kind of throw that.

729

Name on there to see if maybe the samples,

730

you know, let me like hire a lawyer,

just take care of the whole thing.

731

So there's no, no, they never.

732

Wow. Yeah.

733

We just discussed this in this week's is.

734

You ever watched it for fun? Absolutely.

735

The cartoon Teen Titans go!

736

I'll just play. It.

737

It's the deal I saw that. Yeah.

I was like, you know what? I'm sorry.

738

We don't do this.

739

And we had a great time.

740

Watch it. 20 11 minutes long.

741

It was amazing.

742

We talked about the legalities.

743

You know, the prequel, the timing for

that was on your mother's first.

744

And then there's some little subtleties

in the turtles.

745

It's a really great really beginning.

746

It's really super hands off.

747

Yeah. That was just about life. Yeah.

748

Choosing life on Mars.

749

And I was just saying this is like,

what a shame that wasn't

750

even like, a radio hit or like,

a single was like it was juvenile.

751

Then again, you're putting a, like,

some alien language

752

together with the beat,

and it's like, really?

753

They sued them for like over 2 million

and they said, like 1.7 million.

754

I mean, come on.

755

That's that's ridiculous.

756

These young guys that was just.

757

Sued over it.

758

Oh my gosh.

759

Yeah.

760

Yeah.

761

The what's the other company

I can't hear the name of the buyout.

762

Tommy boy that the reason they finally got

the music streaming. Yes.

763

Just about a year ago

I guess. Right in there.

764

Yeah. She was close to.

765

They passed away

just a few weeks ago, right?

766

Yeah, it was so March

767

3rd, 2023.

768

And because three is the magic number

like three, 323 I remember that was like

769

the day or the famous whole day

when they got the rights to the music.

770

They passed away.

771

Just passed away in February.

772

February earlier. Yeah.

773

It was just such a shame that,

774

Yeah.

775

Yeah, yeah.

776

Miserable timing.

777

Yeah.

778

Tommy,

779

it's the last.

780

15, 20 years.

781

Yeah.

782

She. That was he to.

783

You know, welcome in.

784

Oh, man.

785

Do you have any.

786

Other folks

that you want to mention that you.

787

Brought in?

788

Same time. Around here?

789

We run the same town.

790

I got an 11 year old.

791

Wow. Percy. Gary.

792

He had a. Will he, Rabbit?

793

No, I guess three of his life sentences.

794

And, you know, I feel like.

795

He was there at the beginning.

796

He was in my knew.

797

He was in my first.

798

That he for

799

for me, all over New York, Jersey.

800

Just a two mile usually.

801

And then he would shine a light.

802

And this is what I'm saying,

you know, to hear him tell it.

803

And I was like, the loaders labels

they just threw on at you.

804

At the guy,

which is a good voice on stage.

805

Nobody gets to see that.

806

So he basically lost the game.

807

When he continued to release music.

808

But, you know, he, he was with, you know,

when you're making Operation News,

809

there's been stories about how he was.

810

He came to, you know, he crossed

the country,

811

took a can actually.

812

He thought it was a little closer. You.

813

Know.

814

Yeah. He showed up. In a can.

815

Can never say he had 300 cash,

816

so I had to put that up.

817

And I'm really promising to work it out.

818

And you.

819

Know, that'll help me in that way.

820

He straightened out

821

you soon.

822

You see, and he, you know, to me. And,

823

and he.

824

Wants to.

825

Take is with.

826

You you did.

827

Who was around that time?

828

I got a great, nice for myself. Wow.

829

For you to really need to.

830

They said he he came. He just wrote down.

831

Yes. He's a.

832

He just showed up,

833

You know, changed again.

834

Definitely.

835

Now. So then he went to the law school

with your license,

836

which was the wrong way up.

837

For that convention, these plays.

838

It was in know where I made that mistake

the first time I came here to.

839

I also.

840

Wasn't a smooth.

841

Man.

842

That's who I.

843

Remember back to nice.

844

You know?

845

You know, I'm a movie star.

846

Have some.

847

And some people.

848

Those people, when I

849

was in

850

high school or so,

851

they were horses, you know,

852

which I smoked, have heard,

853

Is like the way around.

854

Mystery talking on.

855

The phone, you know, I don't know,

856

I'm scared. Like he just.

857

Have any question. Yeah.

858

Wow. Amazing.

859

Another biggie.

860

A big name that came to him was 2016.

861

Informs Travis Scott.

862

Any recollections that he didn't see?

863

You know, Mr. Levy, student events.

864

Yeah, 2017 ASAP Ferg

865

I wish I.

866

Oh. You said. To.

867

Yeah.

868

And it's worth a listen.

869

And he there's always that.

870

Yeah. Where they said oh okay.

871

There's a lot of different kinds of line

stuff.

872

2018 PNB Rock.

873

Dinero.

874

Young.

875

Yeah,

I remember she was really excited. See?

876

Okay.

877

Yeah.

878

I guess we love seeing you, right?

879

Just to be comfortable.

880

Right? Is that right?

881

All right.

882

Forgot about that. What?

883

Can I see you in 2019?

884

A hoodie with the hoodie here.

885

And I guess a few years

with this Covid hit.

886

Right.

887

And so there's not a lot of

888

2023 where women are.

889

Okay. Well.

890

I saw I remember she's really excited.

891

And then this year those guys.

892

Was here or.

893

No that was that was spring.

894

Was you know that was spring

895

started.

896

So what was the excitement

level of the students.

897

For this quiz star studded

list of performers that have come Ryder.

898

And hopefully more and more

will be coming.

899

In in future years.

900

I don't know,

901

we've always had a full year.

902

And I remember because I wanted to do

gym and movies, actually.

903

Come to home played this.

904

Spring for myself and groceries.

905

You want to have a concert

in their entirety,

906

and if you have,

certain is a little more front.

907

It had a big question.

908

You'll see some was a remarkable.

909

I remember

910

there was a gentleman at work, and,

she put on over five units.

911

I should have.

912

Said he was.

913

Sitting behind me.

914

So, I told him, you know,

915

Oh, hey,

916

we need you over to from,

917

I so good crowd over there, people.

918

Come on. So, again, this year.

919

And so, you know, we need you to need

what we call a huge issue you had.

920

Oh. Shoot up. What was this?

921

Oh, no.

922

It's a beautiful.

923

Just so I shouldn't be around

the ballroom here.

924

So who was sitting in my village?

925

Who's a friend?

926

You should choose our topic. We?

927

He came for me

928

when he was already out.

929

She told me. Hey,

930

if you rock it out

931

now, I have a speech to talk about

932

seven years ago.

933

Well, that's

934

what want works.

935

The future for your tools. Wow.

936

You're crazy.

937

That's impossible.

938

It was one of the near miss,

939

from campus to orientation was 20

940

years.

941

In 94, 93.

942

Unfortunately,

there was a shooting on campus

943

around that time. I've heard that.

944

And not related to the counselor

or anything.

945

And in fact,

946

the students involved were not

I mean, not students were not involved.

947

It was people that were. From off campus.

948

It was a trend area

within a few something.

949

And unfortunately,

there was a shooting on campus

950

and they halted any type of large

gatherings and hip hop event.

951

That so many.

952

Major right from the East Orange right

came right down.

953

And they did the following year.

954

I got to meet separately,

through a mutual friend,

955

my wife's cousins, really good friends.

956

Many.

957

And when he comes into the barbershop

all the time, everybody's in like, so

958

I even for this mixtape tour a few years

back and had, like New Kids on the block

959

and he gets his family,

960

and not in my nature.

961

And I got to like, you mean green

962

trash and in AG and it was a lot of fun

963

and other Instagram the kids.

964

Yeah.

965

It's funny.

966

Like, I don't know.

967

Retirement age is really like.

968

No, I'm sure like,

969

how did campus shut down?

970

So yeah,

971

it was just kind of like

I was just cleaning floors.

972

Yeah.

973

They were very skittish

about having off campus people

974

come on campus for events

after that for for years for years.

975

Yeah. Yeah.

976

You know, that's

977

the right.

978

You want you want to know.

979

Yeah.

980

I did have good.

981

Long you I co-wrote a bio. Yes.

982

Please tell us about that shootings.

983

I had three years experience

that you know,

984

while I was writing the

book with him, he came in.

985

He's looking

986

to see some of my friends, in the.

987

It's amazing.

988

That's amazing.

989

Wow. It is what it is.

990

Talk about.

991

That's what it

992

you see a little bit more of the book

that you did already was this was this

993

before after you had some where this was

for the 10th anniversary or is that okay?

994

That's what you did

995

Okay.

996

The word within a month.

997

I mean he had all the inside was there.

998

You know.

999

Yeah, he was there.

00:45:38,291 --> 00:45:40,833

You know. You know.

00:45:40,833 --> 00:45:43,833

He's there for most of the reason

he was leading in the shoes.

00:45:43,833 --> 00:45:44,625

He was there.

00:45:44,625 --> 00:45:47,625

You know.

00:45:47,625 --> 00:45:47,958

Yeah.

00:45:47,958 --> 00:45:50,875

He tours the world especially.

00:45:50,875 --> 00:45:53,875

He never missed until very, very last or.

00:45:58,041 --> 00:45:58,916

Also when I talk to you

00:45:58,916 --> 00:46:02,708

know, I have, you know, isolated

you know it's up to the younger.

00:46:05,500 --> 00:46:07,791

Foundation for this.

00:46:07,791 --> 00:46:08,083

Yeah.

00:46:08,083 --> 00:46:09,000

It's really cool to see

00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,041

how the family has really patched up

any time that, you know, for a while.

00:46:13,041 --> 00:46:16,333

I mean, wasn't that was,

you know, selling.

00:46:16,583 --> 00:46:20,083

You guys would take ownership, taking

take care of the family for your journey.

00:46:21,125 --> 00:46:23,083

But it seems like it would be.

00:46:23,083 --> 00:46:25,666

Real happy with what.

00:46:25,666 --> 00:46:26,625

You're getting.

00:46:26,625 --> 00:46:28,791

Support ten days after being one of each.

00:46:28,791 --> 00:46:30,666

Yeah, yeah.

00:46:30,666 --> 00:46:33,666

If you go feel that way about performance,

00:46:34,791 --> 00:46:35,958

isn't that crazy?

00:46:35,958 --> 00:46:37,875

Actually, you.

00:46:37,875 --> 00:46:41,500

Residency in Vegas or something like that,

you have a Vegas residency.

00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:44,291

It's it's. An.

00:46:44,291 --> 00:46:48,250

Outcome so far that it has, you know,

and we Wu-Tang residency.

00:46:48,708 --> 00:46:51,708

Wu-Tang and Celine Dion.

00:46:54,333 --> 00:46:57,333

Brittany stick Reed and Roy.

00:46:57,375 --> 00:47:00,375

Who's going to go?

00:47:02,041 --> 00:47:03,333

Wu-Tang is for the children. Are

00:47:05,333 --> 00:47:06,041

amazing.

00:47:06,041 --> 00:47:08,458

Amazing story. Thank you for sharing that.

00:47:08,458 --> 00:47:10,041

You have

00:47:10,041 --> 00:47:13,041

any other recollections of hip

hop here at rider?

00:47:13,125 --> 00:47:13,583

Anything?

00:47:13,583 --> 00:47:16,666

Any plans for the future

that you don't hear while you're there?

00:47:16,666 --> 00:47:18,125

See year I know before.

00:47:18,125 --> 00:47:22,666

We started recording it

on, I coming in but I the I.

00:47:23,208 --> 00:47:25,208

Want to hear that yeah. Piece.

00:47:25,208 --> 00:47:29,333

So we brought riding

and we did a hit by a mountain city rider.

00:47:30,041 --> 00:47:33,041

This is me and Doctor Justin

working for the music.

00:47:33,125 --> 00:47:34,500

Okay. Yeah.

00:47:34,500 --> 00:47:37,500

Yeah, we put this together

and I want to say 20,

00:47:38,708 --> 00:47:40,416

00:47:40,416 --> 00:47:42,208

Right.

00:47:42,208 --> 00:47:45,375

So hip hop scholars like hearing on this.

00:47:45,375 --> 00:47:47,250

Really cool. Okay. Yeah.

00:47:47,250 --> 00:47:48,750

Girls play

00:47:48,750 --> 00:47:52,583

like the syncopations that don't

just rise in the windows or it's kind of.

00:47:52,583 --> 00:47:53,958

What do you mean?

00:47:53,958 --> 00:47:56,708

Oh, that's cool.

00:47:56,708 --> 00:47:58,958

That's a really

a really interesting take. On, like

00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,666

the early

contributions of women and girls.

00:48:02,666 --> 00:48:04,666

See what the game had.

00:48:04,666 --> 00:48:06,916

Yeah. Totally. That's true.

00:48:06,916 --> 00:48:07,333

Yeah.

00:48:07,333 --> 00:48:10,583

So she came in we had a couple of songs.

00:48:11,958 --> 00:48:13,333

We had Robin.

00:48:13,333 --> 00:48:16,333

Come in and our general discussion

and then before

00:48:17,333 --> 00:48:18,458

that's great.

00:48:18,458 --> 00:48:21,375

It's for you know about it for sure.

00:48:21,375 --> 00:48:23,958

I that's terrific.

00:48:23,958 --> 00:48:24,333

Yeah.

00:48:24,333 --> 00:48:26,625

Absolutely perfect.

00:48:26,625 --> 00:48:29,166

Never boogie.

00:48:29,166 --> 00:48:32,166

So watch out for the Brick City.

00:48:32,666 --> 00:48:34,125

You seen the documentary Netflix.

00:48:34,125 --> 00:48:35,666

The latest version I think pretty much.

00:48:35,666 --> 00:48:37,666

You might not watch them yet.

00:48:37,666 --> 00:48:40,666

I mean, I know you've seen a lot of these.

00:48:40,958 --> 00:48:42,000

We talked about branding it.

00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,000

You so intellectual and intelligent.

00:48:45,250 --> 00:48:49,166

And she had such an awesome background.

00:48:49,625 --> 00:48:51,916

Yeah. And a lot of the engineer.

00:48:51,916 --> 00:48:53,125

Yeah, that was it.

00:48:53,125 --> 00:48:55,416

Oh, my God,

00:48:55,416 --> 00:48:56,916

no. That's no joke.

00:48:56,916 --> 00:48:57,541

That's no joke.

00:48:58,833 --> 00:48:59,541

Yeah.

00:48:59,541 --> 00:48:59,958

That's right.

00:48:59,958 --> 00:49:02,333

He walked away. From the community

00:49:02,333 --> 00:49:05,333

support program.

00:49:06,250 --> 00:49:07,375

He's.

00:49:07,375 --> 00:49:08,958

Yeah,

00:49:08,958 --> 00:49:09,500

I know when she.

00:49:09,500 --> 00:49:13,375

Performed now, she introduced everybody

on stage and she said, this is my head.

00:49:13,375 --> 00:49:16,208

Man. It's been years for the city.

00:49:16,208 --> 00:49:17,583

Has been here since.

00:49:17,583 --> 00:49:20,583

Wow. She's performing around the world.

00:49:21,458 --> 00:49:24,041

Champions.

00:49:24,041 --> 00:49:27,041

Okay.

00:49:29,458 --> 00:49:32,458

Any more questions?

00:49:33,250 --> 00:49:33,833

Anything else?

00:49:33,833 --> 00:49:36,833

Making.

00:49:36,875 --> 00:49:39,083

Everybody see?

00:49:39,083 --> 00:49:39,750

Very nice.

00:49:39,750 --> 00:49:42,750

This is.

00:49:43,125 --> 00:49:43,916

Quite the lineup.

00:49:43,916 --> 00:49:45,458

There.

00:49:45,458 --> 00:49:49,833

You know, the only person that we feel

left out is Keith Miles included.

00:49:49,833 --> 00:49:52,833

Running, with the Indians.

00:49:53,541 --> 00:49:55,708

He was in a group called the Suit ninjas.

00:49:55,708 --> 00:49:56,416

Ninjas?

00:49:56,416 --> 00:49:57,041

Sure.

00:49:57,041 --> 00:49:59,625

Like it's sort of some city area.

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Okay. In a really fun world.

00:50:02,208 --> 00:50:02,833

Right? Right.

00:50:02,833 --> 00:50:05,833

There's a lot of people

that completely consume arts,

00:50:06,791 --> 00:50:09,291

literature groups, but,

you know, some ninjas out there

00:50:09,291 --> 00:50:12,708

that you it

they were sort of under the umbrella and.

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Right down the road and willing.

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Oh okay. Yeah.

00:50:18,250 --> 00:50:19,541

So yeah, keep walking.

00:50:19,541 --> 00:50:22,541

And actually Google was driving down

the road

00:50:22,708 --> 00:50:26,875

time tried to on actually,

you know following up with his on the way

00:50:26,875 --> 00:50:29,875

he a straight.

00:50:30,166 --> 00:50:33,166

Talk to him do the thing I you.

00:50:34,458 --> 00:50:35,625

There you go man.

00:50:35,625 --> 00:50:36,958

He had so many good things to say

00:50:36,958 --> 00:50:41,083

about us to ask about in this area

and really world you need to work in.

00:50:41,083 --> 00:50:44,083

New Zealand was pretty.

00:50:44,416 --> 00:50:45,916

I guess the big stories and dirty

00:50:45,916 --> 00:50:48,916

had arrested them on.

00:50:49,458 --> 00:50:50,666

Grays ferry. Yeah.

00:50:50,666 --> 00:50:51,125

What's that?

00:50:51,125 --> 00:50:51,583

He's very.

00:50:51,583 --> 00:50:56,041

Yeah, yeah, he's been on the land for

a few days in a way that was, you know,

00:50:57,041 --> 00:51:00,041

of new.

00:51:02,250 --> 00:51:04,958

I talked to him about

who knew where he was unaccounted for.

00:51:04,958 --> 00:51:06,541

48, 72 hours.

00:51:08,333 --> 00:51:14,416

Wow. He will say,

00:51:15,458 --> 00:51:17,458

you know.

00:51:17,458 --> 00:51:19,666

Thank you, Mickey, for, Yes.

00:51:19,666 --> 00:51:20,708

Thank you so much.

00:51:20,708 --> 00:51:21,916

That was really great.

00:51:21,916 --> 00:51:24,208

He's all. Through the stories and.

00:51:24,208 --> 00:51:27,375

My time is gone.

00:51:27,375 --> 00:51:30,583

And then he was a key member of Assisi

and bringing a lot of his action

00:51:30,583 --> 00:51:32,416

and love in response to that movie.

00:51:32,416 --> 00:51:33,708

Thank you very much.

00:51:33,708 --> 00:51:35,625

Thank you. Guy.

Right on this all together.

00:51:35,625 --> 00:51:39,833

Thank you Jamie. 000.

00:51:41,250 --> 00:51:43,166

Our man is our man is Martin.

00:51:43,166 --> 00:51:46,166

All right, all right, all right. Now.

00:51:46,958 --> 00:51:49,958

00:51:50,416 --> 00:51:53,541

Yes. I.

00:52:01,916 --> 00:52:02,625

Bring it.

00:52:02,625 --> 00:52:05,625

Come on.

00:52:12,625 --> 00:52:13,291

Bring it!

00:52:13,291 --> 00:52:16,291

Come on.

00:52:23,291 --> 00:52:23,916

Bring it.

00:52:23,916 --> 00:52:26,916

Come on.

00:52:34,708 --> 00:52:35,416

Okay.

00:52:35,416 --> 00:52:37,041

Take. Okay.

00:52:37,041 --> 00:52:39,875

Drink it, take it.

00:52:39,875 --> 00:52:42,875

Come on.

00:52:49,916 --> 00:52:50,583

Bring it.

00:52:50,583 --> 00:52:51,000

Come on.