Ready to cultivate lasting success in your business? In this episode, we’re sharing 5 essential habits that have been key to our growth, inspired by years of experience in the corporate world. Discover how to implement strategies like effective time management, systems-driven operations, and long-term planning to create a business that thrives sustainably. Whether you’re an entrepreneur just starting out or looking to refine your approach, these habits will help you build a strong, resilient business. Join us as we dive deep into the practices that can help you stay rooted and grow with intention
In this episode, we cover…
00:31 Corporate lessons for small business success
03:20 Habit 1: Protecting your white space
06:37 Habit 2: Systems-dependent success V.S. person-dependent success
09:38 Habit 3: Reducing friction for better results
12:19 Habit 4: Why you should cultivate long-term thinking
15:25 Habit 5: How to deal with difficult personalities
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Meet Your Hosts
Jessica Walther is the founder and CEO of The Launch Collaborative and Sustainable Success Systems. As a launch strategist and systems consultant, Jess is dedicated to helping solo business owners and small-but-mighty teams build businesses that deliver both peace and profit. She specializes in creating sustainable growth strategies that align with her clients' values and lifestyles.
Rachel Lopez is the founder and CEO of Gal Marketing Agency, a boutique email marketing and strategy firm. With over a decade of experience, Rachel helps heart-driven entrepreneurs craft intentional marketing strategies that attract, nurture, and convert leads sustainably. Her human-first approach ensures that marketing efforts feel authentic and effective .
Together, Jess and Rachel blend systems, storytelling, and soulful strategy to help you grow a business that's deeply aligned with your life—not just your revenue goals.
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rachel_1_08-12-2024_130905: Hello,
and welcome back to another episode
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:of the Deeply Rooted Podcast.
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:I'm Rachel, your marketing mastermind,
and I'm here with Jess, our systems
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:guru, external brain expert,
like all things, just efficiency.
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:jess-_1_08-12-2024_130905:
Smooth operator,
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:rachel_1_08-12-2024_130905: Yes.
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:Okay.
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:We need a theme song to include that
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:jess-_1_08-12-2024_130905: marketing
mastermind and smooth operator.
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:rachel_1_08-12-2024_130905: today.
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:I think we're talking about something
that I think might give Jess and I a
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:little bit of an edge in the online
space in this small business world
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:is the fact that we've spent so much
time in corporate and a lot of times
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:small business owners who maybe don't.
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:Go that route of being like corporate
escapee, corporate burnout, and
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:then transition into business owners
may not have these kind of like
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:foundational I would say traumas, but
they can also be lessons that we've
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:carried from the corporate world and.
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:We're going to share some of like the
habits that we have kind of maintained
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:in our business that we've kind of
developed in that corporate world that
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:have made us better business owners.
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:It really, really, there's so much overlap
when you treat your business kind of
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:like the way that a corporation exists.
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:It allows you to just operate
a little bit more efficiently
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:and, intentionally as well.
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:jess-_1_08-12-2024_130905: Yeah.
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:I always see, recently on LinkedIn trying
to use that to leverage some business.
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:And I always see these posts and
particularly about retail employees.
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:And it's like, if you've worked in
like a retail store, like in retail
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:management, you can work in any industry.
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:And it really like did give me such a well
rounded, I guess development, professional
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:development, especially working at Gap Inc
because they really put a lot of time and
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:Like we got like disc trained and we
got situational leadership trained.
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:So they really did put some So much energy
and effort into their store managers.
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:And I'm so grateful for that experience,
along with some of like the really good,
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:like business mentors that I had And I
really do think about like draw upon that,
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:foundational knowledge that they gave me
so many times a week or even like a day.
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:And I don't think I would
have been as successful.
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had that experience first.
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:rachel_1_08-12-2024_130905:
Yeah, yeah, totally.
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:I mean, I think, especially in
the, I don't know what to call it.
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:Like the, office corporate life
versus retail corporate life.
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:Like there's so many similarities
and so many, like, also differences
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:to where, like, I think I spent
nearly, I escaped at eight and a half
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reflecting on like how much I still use.
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:A lot of that knowledge is wild to me
because when I left, I thought I was like,
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:And it slowly crept back in because there
are true best practices in maintaining.
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:Whether it's like a department,
a team and all of that.
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:So do you want to kick off habit
number one that we have pulled
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:jess-_1_08-12-2024_130905: Yeah, so
this habit number one is directly
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she was a white space champion.
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especially in the retail setting
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:Some of the kind of higher ups think
the best strategy is for you to be
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driving the sales the entire time.
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where she really encouraged and
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Mondays to have a block of work.
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:White space time.
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protect your white space And if
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:you've never heard of what white
space is, it's really just intentional
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space for deep thinking and planning.
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business owner, I've definitely
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myself and for my clients is like
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where you're not doing anything.
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of like your creativity and
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not giving myself too much space
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kind of like scared or uneasy
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be to like jump in and start doing when
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for you to kind of pull back and give
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:rachel_1_08-12-2024_130905: Yeah, I
think this is so important when we
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like knowing your hours that you're
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:spending in your business and on your
business and with your clients and
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to yourself because at the end of the
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you're a manager level or above, like
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the to do's and all of that, like
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other side of your job as well.
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:So then bringing it into like business
owners like ship, you're not an
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white space, you can easily get
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to do's and like client work and,
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as innovative and as intentional
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Google Calendar has focus windows that
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calendar tool called reclaim AI that
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space based off of your meetings and
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protected zone in there is like a
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for you, depending on your meetings,
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transition that stuff and everything.
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business habit number two.
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success to systems dependent success.
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:So a lot of times when we are first
starting out, I know Rachel talks
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an employee where everything is kind
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and we're not acting as the CEO.
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success, especially in retail, because
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a lot of like new employees that we
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no matter who was in the building.
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a lot of times when I was not there,
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business got consistent results, even
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building and that my team could make good
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forward without my constant input.
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processes, organizations that allowed
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allowed the business to be successful
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to perform and be motivated to perform
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:even when I was not there was a definite
skill and strength that I developed,
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:rachel_1_08-12-2024_130905: This is also
one of those things that like is from
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in both business and in corporate.
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person that could do the job
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was no workflow or process.
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lot of vacation time or trusting
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the right way and outsourcing
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:And so when you do not have that,
and like, let's say you're a business
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you're kind of trying to branch out
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in place so that that system can work
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needing to be in the weeds of it all.
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would say is like the most important
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don't start until probably year
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you have the idea to hire and get
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you're a solopreneur, you really just
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that's okay if that's what you want.
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got in here into this business for
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the amount of income that we were
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do that if everything relies on your
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:So so so important and also if you
just want to like take a vacation
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What's going on or go have a baby.
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:jess-_1_08-12-2024_130905: It's a lot
of work on rachel's systems to get
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because this is systems related too, is
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systems dependent, but I think one of the
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on, I kind of had this reputation of
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me into these like hot mess of a store and
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always start with organization and like
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first as a way of reducing friction one
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the work environment just feels better.
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we can kind of flow through your
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like a nicer, more happier person.
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into your customer experience
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you make it for people to do their jobs,
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the obstacles that are slowing down
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with them being able to develop
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and like open to my employees to
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wasn't like, Oh, you had a bad day.
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thing where I went, went deeper.
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episodes, we talked about like finding the
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use that skill of like going deeper beyond
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what was really causing the friction there
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correct to make more flow in that area?
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my corporate experience, I was never
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doing this one, but as someone who,
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bad project managers, like, this is so
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even the best process can get broken.
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:And When you have that like deadline
and those campaigns that have several
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the same exact time, it could be so,
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not everybody understanding what their
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what their roles are and like just
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needed a jest, and I've been on the
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always choose pick the jest side.
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:This is something We will talk
about until we are blue in the
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saying, Oh, it's Q1.
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planning, and really understanding that
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:Then a crash and crumble because of
one launch or the next launch, but it's
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of each other to be successful so that
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and get closer and closer and closer.
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not long term planning and they're simply
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getting started maybe with annual planning
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because they're sitting there and they're
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these big milestones, but realistically
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task or the year after that's big task,
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picture allows you to be more strategic
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that are prioritized at that time.
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I definitely agree.
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:I think a real life example of
this is Rachel and I have a joint
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want to launch probably in:
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content and kind of working through our
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:It's not like we're like Rachel's
going to come back from maternity
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this offer and have all of these
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till about this year to like realize how
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how much I need to be leading up when
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audience that we need and develop
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make those strategic shifts.
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:But like I can have the vision now of what
I want this offer to be, or what shifts I
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that we talked about is like giving
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vision and meditate on, What's working,
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go and how aligned everything is.
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an important habit to take.
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:a lot of people will come to me and
I think you said it last episode
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:where it's like, it's not just
like flipping a switch when we're
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:implementing like your marketing
systems or my operational systems.
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better or feel relief the first month.
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we're going to give you a lot of
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six months in, you're going to
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the results in your business.
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:Yeah, I think this is one of those
things that like collaboratively with
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:that white space, if you're not taking
it, you're leading yourself to like
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Oh, I have these goals and I'm not
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:And then our last habit, I think this
one is true in all areas of life, all
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always have to deal with difficult
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collaboration from a team perspective,
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:from a client perspective let's say your
client has two other people that also
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:Make sure you're flowing with
this one is so, so, so important.
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:I think I have always approached in my
business, I've always approached like
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as possible with other people's
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agencies, and like being as Fluid, right?
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from someone that asked me for a
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they were like the ads team or the
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you may not want to share this.
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you can, any information's great.
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for the same client.
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the best, Cohesive, picture of what
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perspective, but they were terrified to
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other email people that said, no, I'm
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so so wild, but just what's been
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and just this whole team side?
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Yeah, I have two thoughts.
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like technically I'm not a coach,
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we do sometimes have to fall into
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about, situa situational leadership
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learning how to give feedback in a
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one thing that I thought I was going
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I'm an introvert, and I hate working.
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probably one of the, or like even
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and like putting myself out there.
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a like bosses that would recognize
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and high up in corporate without
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coaching that they would give to me
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read, you know, have store visits.
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to kind of like work on this.
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out on my own, like, it's not
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Yeah, it's definitely about connections.
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for a while and just, like, do referrals.
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of putting myself out there more.
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sharing my voice, getting more comfortable
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thought would not affect me too much.
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you like way more.
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business, you've got to go do it.
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funny you mentioned like, I don't
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a deep corporate experience, but
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emphasize like personal development
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amount of classes I took about conflict
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:And like, you said, the disc program,
one of my old, Companies that I
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to put our disc on our desks and then
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interpret what a high eye meant or what
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to interrupt this person because that's
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:And I think that that speaks so strongly
to like, the possibility of culture
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:in corporate, but also you can bring
this same stuff into your business
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:I always, always, always try to
teach, like tell my clients like, Hey,
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:Like, this is how I feel appreciated.
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:That was something that we always had to
fill out like on our quarterly reviews.
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and that's going to be a, you know,
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:give me the rest of the day off kind
of thing back when I was in corporate.
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:And that translates so strongly into
how you build relationships with your
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:clients, how you build relationships with
your team and all of those layers of it.
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in understanding yourself.
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:your self awareness is key because you're
going to get give me some crazy people in
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:this world and not being triggered and not
really, you know, knowing how to deal with
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:jess-_1_08-12-2024_130905: I feel
like I could come up with like
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talking, I want to keep going.
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around the 25 ish minute mark.
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:rachel_1_08-12-2024_130905: I agree.
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:I could, do a hundred more habits,
but, looking at how you can operate a
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:little less like a solopreneur and a
little bit more in these kind of like
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:foundational best practices can only do
wonders for your business at no point.
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:If you ever to like, think about long term
planning or, Learn to start delegating.
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:Like it's only to your benefit to kind
of like lean into some of these areas.
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good about what we shared.
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:jess-_1_08-12-2024_130905:
Yeah, no, I did.
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here thinking about other things
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make sure that you, uh, Like, follow,
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season and this is going to be possibly
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she goes out leave, which is so exciting.
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make sure that leave us a review.
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:We could do a whole
year recap next episode.
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:jess-_1_08-12-2024_130905: we're for